Hi there
Since we have cut over to the new NET 4 HUB the following nodes have not polled to collect HELD traffic for them or have not been able to be reached if set to CRASH traffic.
Do you run one of these systems or know someone who does?
Do you know if any of these systems have closed down or could be on auto/zombie mode?
Please drop me an email or post a reply to this thread. Thanks for your help.
Nodes in NET 4 should be polling net4.fsxnet.nz:24560 to collect traffic.
Here's the list, in most cases there's 9+ days of packets being held at the HUB per node... essentially no contact from the node since cutover.
[snip]
Constructive Chaos Craig Hendricks conchaos.synchro.net 147
Constructive Chaos Craig Hendricks conchaos.synchro.net 147
Is active as far as I know. I'm not sure why he wouldn't be polling or accepting crashes.
147 Aliens' Alcove BBS Eric Pareja aliens.free.net.ph
* = emailed sysop about no polling
? = no address listed
n = no answer
?? = system broken/can't create new user
pAULIE42o
* = emailed sysop about no polling
? = no address listed
n = no answer
?? = system broken/can't create new user
Paulie! You are awesome! Just a pillar of the community. I don't think you get the thanks you deserve. BBSing it just better because of you!
Many thanks for the email paulie420!
All fixed now!
And thanks to Avon too for his quick email reply!
Mark.
The issue I emaild you about has been fixed, but I think his system is still on autopilot. #-;
* = emailed sysop about no polling
* 156 The Rock BBS III Michael Batts therockbbs.net:10023
On 10 Apr 2024 at 04:27p, Intangybles pondered and said...
Many thanks for the email paulie420!
All fixed now!
Welcome back Mark, thanks for reaching out so quickly and also to Paulie for the email assist :)
Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not
* = emailed sysop about no polling
? = no address listed
n = no answer
?? = system broken/can't create new user
Paulie! You are awesome! Just a pillar of the community. I don't think you get the thanks you deserve. BBSing it just better because of you!
* 156 The Rock BBS III Michael Batts therockbbs.net:10023..this one is showing as BLOCKED at my end when I try to poll the system.
Hopefully he can unblock 103.193.138.76 and whitelist it.
The issue I emaild you about has been fixed, but I think his system is
still on autopilot. #-;
noted, thanks... I have a look at what's happening with 1/10 connects
now.
Hopefully Paulie may be able to make some progress
So many systems on autopilot... and then they just stop...
Exodus wrote to Vorlon <=-
So many systems on autopilot... and then they just stop...
I don't, and never have understood the "thrill" of setting up a
BBS, not doing anything to it, never logging into it, never
checking on it, but let it run with nothing on it.
So many systems on autopilot... and then they just stop...
I don't, and never have understood the "thrill" of setting up a BBS, not doing anything to it, never logging into it, never checking on it, but let it run with nothing on it.
I don't, and never have understood the "thrill" of setting up a BBS, not doing anything to it, never logging into it, never checking on it, but let it run with nothing on it.
I think a lot of sysops do put time to customize it, but sometimes I think some sysops get busy and their BBS becomes a low priority for them for a while but they still want to keep running it. They might get back to it at some point when they have more free time.
I don't, and never have understood the "thrill" of setting up a BBS,
not doing anything to it, never logging into it, never checking on it,
but let it run with nothing on it.
I think a lot of sysops do put time to customize it, but sometimes I think
some sysops get busy and their BBS becomes a low priority for them for a
while but they still want to keep running it. They might get back to it at
some point when they have more free time.
I actually think it's the realisation that there are few "users".
I agree and don't understand it either. Even more so when the BBS is connected to FTN message nets. Quite an aggravating thing, for me.
I think a lot of sysops do put time to customize it, but sometimes I think some sysops get busy and their BBS becomes a low priority for them for a wh but they still want to keep running it. They might get back to it at some point when they have more free time.
Maybe, or maybe they enjoy the thinking up a theme, setting up the software customizing it, and once they are finished it just gets boring. I am like
No, I was talking about the ones that unzip the archive, get a telnet address and click on the .exe and never look at it again without having ANYTHING done to it.
In the 90's you didnt have to wait long before you heard the modem answer, and the curiosity of what they were doing. These days, there are many "old" sysops and a few if any visitors. I can see why they loose interest, especially if they dont want to chat via an old text interface that may or may not get a response...
So many systems on autopilot... and then they just stop...
Technically they are still functioning, but it leaves a lot to be
desired. #-9
I don't, and never have understood the "thrill" of setting up a BBS, not doing anything to it, never logging into it, never checking on it, but
let it run with nothing on it.
BY: Avon (21:1/101)
I am helping to contact Alien's Alcove for you via WWIVnet to help you.
Exodus wrote to Gamgee <=-
I agree and don't understand it either. Even more so when the BBS is connected to FTN message nets. Quite an aggravating thing, for me.
I have a couple of those over here in Metronet ... drives me
nuts, I end up delisting them and some how 2 years later they
start polling again and finally logon and ask why there is no
mail. Well, because you quit polling for mail 2 years ago,
don't think I'm gonna hold it for more than 3 weeks for you at
most.
So many systems on autopilot... and then they just stop...
I don't, and never have understood the "thrill" of setting up a BBS, not doing anything to it, never logging into it, never checking on it, but
let it run with nothing on it.
So many systems on autopilot... and then they just stop... Technically
they are still functioning, but it leaves a lot to be desired. #-9
Yes it's a mixed indeed but that's the nature of it, it does make it
harder from a network admin point of view when you have a system running
on auto you're connecting with and you ideally need the sysop to make a change but they are not about this week, or next, or... but at least
it's up and running I guess.
I think a lot of sysops do put time to customize it, but sometimes I
think some sysops get busy and their BBS becomes a low priority for them for a while but they still want to keep running it. They might get back to it at some point when they have more free time.
I don't, and never have understood the "thrill" of setting up a BBS,
not doing
anything to it, never logging into it, never checking on it, but let
it run
with nothing on it.
Yep, I have downlinks in a couple of Nets, and will email the Sysop if I notice a lapse of a day or so. So far that seems to have worked well in getting some corrective action done. I have had to put a couple on
Exodus wrote to Gamgee <=-
Yep, I have downlinks in a couple of Nets, and will email the Sysop if I notice a lapse of a day or so. So far that seems to have worked well in getting some corrective action done. I have had to put a couple on
I think part of the problem is stupid mystic and it's stupid busy
flags. I guess people don't know how to make batch files anymore
to check/erase these falags every night to be on the safe side.
It's not that hard to do an IF EXIST *.BSY DEL *.BSY ..... I
don't get it. When did people get so dumb? They HAVE to have a
midnight maint.bat file to run all the door game maintenances, so
not that hard to had ONE line in there to check and clear these
flags. Sigh.
That is true, but they really do need to check in at times... There are two systems in the fido network here, but it could be more. Technically they are still functioning, but I know one of the sysop's has just lost his mojo (Confirmed via Email from him), and not the recent one... #0-9
while but they still want to keep running it. They might get back to it
at some point when they have more free time.
I actually think it's the realisation that there are few "users".
I can see why they loose interest, especially if they dont want to chat via an old text interface D> that may or may not get a response...
No, I was talking about the ones that unzip the archive, get a telnet
address and click on the .exe and never look at it again without
having ANYTHING done to it.
Who knows? maybe they thought it might be fun, it's not all that fun,
but they leave it up to see what happens, then realize it's just not fun and take it down.
Technically they are still functioning, but I know one of the sysop's
has just lost his mojo (Confirmed via Email from him), and not the
recent one... #0-9
I lost my mojo once, but thankfully found it under the sofa about 9
months later ;-p
... as long as the system is running I'm fine to connect to it / feed packets etc.. but yep when it's on auto for a long time and something changes in the setup that's when it gets a bit tricky.
So many systems on autopilot... and then they just stop...
I don't, and never have understood the "thrill" of setting up a
BBS, not doing anything to it, never logging into it, never
checking on it, but let it run with nothing on it.
I think a lot of sysops do put time to customize it, but sometimes I
think some sysops get busy and their BBS becomes a low priority for
them for a while but they still want to keep running it. They might
get back to it at some point when they have more free time.
telnet://bbs.roonsbbs.hu:1212 <<=-
I think a lot of sysops do put time to customize it, but sometimes
I think some sysops get busy and their BBS becomes a low priority
for them for a wh but they still want to keep running it. They
might get back to it at some point when they have more free time.
I'm not talking about the ones that "started" and tried. I'm talking
about the ones that put up default Synchronet boards and default
mystic boards and leave them sit with nothing done to it but a telnet address to it. If I wanted that I could unzip the archive and see
myself.
telnet://bbs.roonsbbs.hu:1212 <<=-
now i've built a Maximus with custom ansis and a huge
amount of homebrew MEX scripts and door games.
i was too young at that time, my english and coding
skills were weak and i've concentraded more on building
a reliable _system_ than on graphx and stuff.
it's funny because back in the 90s i had an almost stock Maximus running wi huge file/message areas and it was one of the busiest bbs in hungary.
Hello Nightfox,
12 Apr 24 14:31, you wrote to Exodus:
So many systems on autopilot... and then they just stop...
I don't, and never have understood the "thrill" of setting up a
BBS, not doing anything to it, never logging into it, never
checking on it, but let it run with nothing on it.
I think a lot of sysops do put time to customize it, but sometimes
I think some sysops get busy and their BBS becomes a low priority
for them for a while but they still want to keep running it. They
might get back to it at some point when they have more free time.
this is similar to my case. i try to read netmail/private messages in every 1-2-3 days, but sometimes i just don't have the energy for it
and i'll sleep instead. in this year i've travelled a lot, i have a
2.5 year old kid, sometimes i have to work ;) and i've started to
renew with my 2 hands one of our houses + sport + other hobbies. :)
I just saw a message welcoming you to Micronet from Nick in
MIN_ADMIN.
I would say the exact opposite, I put ffort on it and do a lot, then
nobody connects, I trad and reply to many echomails but in my own
personal case/way I try to do stuff, but it becomes like fruitless
when you check your IN logsnad only SysOp logged in.
I get it we all have some other stuff to do and now with even the
toilet using tiktok who cares about a black screen with green letters
some luser setup in Colombia?.
It'd be so great that areas were more active hub RPs were more
welcoming and helpful but I see the same behaviour and obnoxiousness I
saw back then,"it's your system", "you're i the wrong" and so on... I remeber back I 99 I had this friend in Spain he ran RafaBBS, he would
spend hours trying to help me, now people just hope that you read
between the lines on their two line replies blaming you...
:Like when you take the time to ask a question and even if some dude
knows the answer he'll tell you RTFM... WTF?... Like with that
attitude you show the world you sufferted hell setting things up and
others should suffer much more. Isn't it more helpful to say "have you checked...".
I've found nice people when getting back to BBSing but some are just
....
* Origin: SkyNet BBS | Colombia | bbs.dkynetbbs.com:20023 (21:3/188)
I would say the exact opposite, I put ffort on it and do a lot,
then nobody connects, I trad and reply to many echomails but in my
own personal case/way I try to do stuff, but it becomes like
fruitless when you check your IN logsnad only SysOp logged in.
I can understand that, most BBSes get very few logins these days.
Unless you're running a BBS for your own personal enjoyment rather
than an attempt to get users logging in, your (most likely) going to
be disappointed.
I get it we all have some other stuff to do and now with even the
toilet using tiktok who cares about a black screen with green
letters some luser setup in Colombia?.
It's not really about your setup, I think the number of people that
set up a BBS do so, then a few weeks later realize it's not like it
was in the 90s, pull it down again. Why go through the effort of
signing up to a BBS if it's going to be gone in a few weeks (speaking generally) and has the same stuff all the other BBSes have? That said, it's still nice to encourage new sysops by visiting their work every
now and then.
It'd be so great that areas were more active hub RPs were more
welcoming and helpful but I see the same behaviour and
obnoxiousness I saw back then,"it's your system", "you're i the
wrong" and so on... I remeber back I 99 I had this friend in Spain
he ran RafaBBS, he would spend hours trying to help me, now people
just hope that you read between the lines on their two line replies
blaming you...
Yeah, there are a lot of obnoxious people on BBSes, you'll learn who
they are soon enough, but there are some nice people too, I don't know
who you are refering to with RPs, but agree there are some who are not very welcoming and some that are.
Again it comes down to a bit of a catch 22, people are tired of
helping people setting up new systems who just disappear again in a
few weeks, and people disappear because no one helps them or makes
them feel welcome.
:Like when you take the time to ask a question and even if some
dude knows the answer he'll tell you RTFM... WTF?... Like with that
attitude you show the world you sufferted hell setting things up
and others should suffer much more. Isn't it more helpful to say
"have you checked...".
Yes it is, and I totally agree with you. If you're going to reply
RTFM, I think it's better not to reply at all. At least provide a link
to the manual and where you can read it - even paraphrase it in the message.
I've found nice people when getting back to BBSing but some are
just
....
Yes, that's the way of everything though.. more so in BBSing I think because more grumpy old men :P
I hope you stick around, as there are some good people here, it's an adjustment if you're expecting 1995 - but worth it I think. I haven't checked out your board yet, mostly because I expected it would be in spanish (I can only read english) but hey, might as well find out :)
Andrew
A couple of other suggestions for you BBS:
* Have an option for an english language, spanish as default is fine,
but is hard to navigate if you can't speak spanish
* The local message base can't be written in (probably a security
level setting) I was going to write this in your local base but could
not.
* Change the welcome screen, we're not all great text mode artists,
but many people are going to see the default mystic welcome screen and assume your BBS is just a stock mystic install (it's not) and probably just disconnect.
Anyway, good job so far - it's good to have more BBSes in other
languages I think.
Andrew
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|09apam |08(|11Andrew Pamment|08)
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--- Talisman v0.54-dev (Darwin/x86_64)
* Origin: Starlight :: starlight.zapto.org:2323 (21:4/158.1)
True, and as I stated before, not even HUBs are welcoming anymore, now everybody wants "automation", what for?, so thay tehy don't have to deal with questions or help newcomers?. anyways as you said, it's a two-way street, carelesss people and grumy old a-holes, sorry about that but I had to get it off my chest.
Re: In this list? (NET4)
By: David Gonzalez to apam on Mon Oct 21 2024 07:23 am
Howdy,
True, and as I stated before, not even HUBs are welcoming anymore,
now everybody wants "automation", what for?, so thay tehy don't
have to deal with questions or help newcomers?. anyways as you
said, it's a two-way street, carelesss people and grumy old
a-holes, sorry about that but I had to get it off my chest.
I dont agree with this sentiment.
Apart from the fact that I'm a hub myself, I also work with many other folks who run hubs - and I most of them have always been helpful and
have pride in running their hub - ensuring that it is doing what the
folks who use it expect.
Why the automation - I've written clrghouz with a lot of automation,
and you might be a victim of some of that. Why? For me, its for two reasons:
* To identify and notify configuration problems and let the sysop know
so that can fix it - especially when those config problems might be affecting their interaction on the net (like messages not being delivered).
* I'm a Dad, an Employee, a Husband, a Nerd, a Developer and somewhere
in those hours I provide a Hub service to sysops who want to be a part
of this hobby.
I like to run a clean ship, and doing so requires a lot of mundane repetative tasks - which sometimes also results in errors that affects users of the hub. This tech was "designed" 50 years ago and we have
learnt a lot since then.
So automation helps alot - and the developer side of me likes creating
it.
But back to your original comment though, yes, there are people in
this hobby who are not helpful, unfriendly, disrespectful, etc - and I
can list a few. But I dont need them, and its rare that I interact
with them, and I have the "next" key at my disposal.
So forget about the unfriendly people and interact with the rest,
you'll find t his a more enjoyable place.
...ëîåï
--- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
* Origin: I'm playing with ANSI+videotex - wanna play too? (21:2/116)
True, and as I stated before, not even HUBs are welcoming anymore, now everybody wants "automation", what for?, so thay tehy don't have to deal with questions or help newcomers?. anyways as you said, it's a two-way street, carelesss people and grumy old a-holes, sorry about that but I had to get it off my chest.
But back to your original comment though, yes, there are people in this hobby who are not helpful, unfriendly, disrespectful, etc - and I can
list a few.
So forget about the unfriendly people and interact with the rest, you'll find t his a more enjoyable place.
On 22 Oct 2024, deon said the following...
But back to your original comment though, yes, there are people
in this hobby who are not helpful, unfriendly, disrespectful, etc
- and I can list a few.
So forget about the unfriendly people and interact with the rest,
you'll find t his a more enjoyable place.
Further to this, you may want to add a new menu option in Mystic:
(UF) Edit Twit Filter
This is the personal twit filter that will hide messages to/from those
you don't wish to see. It leaves them in the message base for other
users who may want to see them.
GoldED also has a twit filter as well.
Add to golded.cfg:
TWITMODE IGNORE
TWITTO YES
TWITNAME Firstname Lastname 1
TWITNAME Alias 1
TWITNAME Firstname Lastname 2
TWITNAME Alias 2
TWITNAME Etc...
Jay
... By the power vested in me by the internet, I now pronounce you man
and wifi
--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Northern Realms (21:3/110)
TWITNAME Firstname Lastname 1
TWITNAME Alias 1
TWITNAME Firstname Lastname 2
TWITNAME Alias 2
TWITNAME Etc...
Nice addition and good suggestion. I'll bookmark this.
Hello David!
21 Oct 24 20:46, you wrote to Warpslide:
TWITNAME Firstname Lastname 1
TWITNAME Alias 1
TWITNAME Firstname Lastname 2
TWITNAME Alias 2
TWITNAME Etc...
Nice addition and good suggestion. I'll bookmark this.
This is one of mine. It just skips anything from or to this sock
puppet.
TwitName Lee Lofaso
TwitMode Skip
TwitTo Yes
TwitFrom Yes
Vorlon
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240302
* Origin: Dragon's Lair ---:- dragon.vk3heg.net -:--- Prt: 6800 (21:1/195)
This is one of mine. It just skips anything from or to this sock
puppet.
TwitName Lee Lofaso
TwitMode Skip
TwitTo Yes
TwitFrom Yes
LOL, how many may my name show up on ATM?, wondering....
| Sysop: | Tetrazocine |
|---|---|
| Location: | Melbourne, VIC, Australia |
| Users: | 5 |
| Nodes: | 8 (0 / 8) |
| Uptime: | 35:18:07 |
| Calls: | 56 |
| Files: | 21,500 |
| Messages: | 69,370 |