I am still having this weird problem on my board. I have
several DOOR32.SYS doors on my board and I a using a
separate computer to call and test these games. When I
pick a door and run it, the door will pop up on my
HOST computer instead of on the computer I call in on.
And then the computer I call in on freezes and does
nothing until I can disconnect and try again.H

I have "share" turned off on both computers - both
are running Windows 10. At first I thought I done
something to mess up my settings on the BBS but
I even tried installing a new Mystic BBS and it
does the same thing! Python scripts and MPL programs\
work ok, but not doors that use the DOOR32.SYS
or DOOR.SYS drop files. Any idea what I could
be doing wrong?H
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. If I wasn't
bald already, I would be tearing my hair out. :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
* Origin: From the depths of Bunker 3 (21:1/130)

Are you using NETFOSS?
That is what is required to 'push' doors 'through' the telnet connection.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Files 4 Fun BBS (21:2/120)

Are you using NETFOSS?
That is what is required to 'push' doors 'through' the telnet connection.

No, I am not using that. I will give it a try. I just thought it was
relly strange how everything would pop up on the HOST computer
instea of on the computer you were calling in on. And it would
lock up both computers. I don't know how to use NETFOSS but
I will look into it. Thanks

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
* Origin: From the depths of Bunker 3 (21:1/130)

Are you using NETFOSS?
That is what is required to 'push' doors 'through' the telnet connecti

No, I am not using that. I will give it a try. I just thought it was
relly strange how everything would pop up on the HOST computer
instea of on the computer you were calling in on. And it would
lock up both computers. I don't know how to use NETFOSS but
I will look into it. Thanks

Feel free to send me an email and I will forward you some configs and some .bat files for reference. NETFOSS is what is required to "route" BBS door game "traffic" through the Telnet Tunnel to be viewed remotely. There are a few games that I gave up on because they would never show up remotely and would only show on the local PC screen.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Files 4 Fun BBS (21:2/120)

Are you using NETFOSS?
That is what is required to 'push' doors 'through' the telnet

connecti

No, I am not using that. I will give it a try. I just thought it was relly strange how everything would pop up on the HOST computer instea of on the computer you were calling in on. And it would lock up both computers. I don't know how to use NETFOSS but I will look into it. Thanks

Feel free to send me an email and I will forward you some configs and some .bat files for reference. NETFOSS is what is required to "route" BBS door game "traffic" through the Telnet Tunnel to be viewed remotely. There are a few games that I gave up on because they would never show up remotely and would only show on the local PC screen.

If games dpn't support fossols, you can.use doorway.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/32) * Origin: Files 4 Fun BBS
(21:2/120)

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Are you using NETFOSS?
That is what is required to 'push' doors 'through' the

telnet

connecti

No, I am not using that. I will give it a try. I just thought it

was

relly strange how everything would pop up on the HOST computer

instea

of on the computer you were calling in on. And it would lock up

both

computers. I don't know how to use NETFOSS but I will look into

it.

Thanks

Feel free to send me an email and I will forward you some configs and

some

.bat files for reference. NETFOSS is what is required to "route" BBS

door

game "traffic" through the Telnet Tunnel to be viewed remotely. There

are

a few games that I gave up on because they would never show up

remotely

and would only show on the local PC screen.

If games dpn't support fossols, you can.use doorway.

Pardon the typos, I was using connectbot. My tremors make the android
keyboard hellish...

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If games dpn't support fossols, you can.use doorway.

Problem is, when PCMICRO took over everything, they still charge (even today) way too much for the software. I mean, sure, $20 USD isn't bad, but for the few games that may require it, I just delete the game because most of them can't be registered anyways without hacking.

And, you still may require netfoss depending on the game. The free trial wasn't worth setting up

"Doorway includes a HOST (Server) and a CLIENT (Terminal) modem programs for full functionality without needing 3rd party software, and it's compatible with most other DOS communication software. Doorway is also compatible with telnet access under Windows32 by using NetFoss."

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Files 4 Fun BBS (21:2/120)

SirRonmit wrote to Shurato <=-

If games dpn't support fossols, you can.use doorway.

Problem is, when PCMICRO took over everything, they still charge (even today) way too much for the software. I mean, sure, $20 USD isn't bad,
but for the few games that may require it, I just delete the game
because most of them can't be registered anyways without hacking.

And, you still may require netfoss depending on the game. The free
trial wasn't worth setting up

"Doorway includes a HOST (Server) and a CLIENT (Terminal) modem
programs for full functionality without needing 3rd party software, and it's compatible with most other DOS communication software. Doorway is also compatible with telnet access under Windows32 by using NetFoss."

Pretty sure PCMicro offers a significant discount for Sysops.

Another alternative to all of that is to use Linux/dosemu. ;-)



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SirRonmit wrote to Shurato <=-

If games dpn't support fossols, you can.use doorway.

Problem is, when PCMICRO took over everything, they still charge

(even

today) way too much for the software. I mean, sure, $20 USD isn't

bad,

but for the few games that may require it, I just delete the game because most of them can't be registered anyways without hacking.

And, you still may require netfoss depending on the game. The free trial wasn't worth setting up

"Doorway includes a HOST (Server) and a CLIENT (Terminal) modem programs for full functionality without needing 3rd party software,

and

it's compatible with most other DOS communication software. Doorway

is

also compatible with telnet access under Windows32 by using NetFoss."

Pretty sure PCMicro offers a significant discount for Sysops.

Another alternative to all of that is to use Linux/dosemu. ;-)

I didn't ask for a sysop discount, I thought $30 for unlimited nodes was
quite reasonable. I use it for about 10-15 door games at least. It's definitely worth the cost!

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*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
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Are you using NETFOSS?
That is what is required to 'push' doors 'through' the telnet connecti

So will Netfoss prevent the door from opening up on the host computer and
let it run naturally, on the computer calling in?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
* Origin: From the depths of Bunker 3 (21:1/130)

Re: Re: Problem with doors
By: alonzo to SirRonmit on Wed Jun 11 2025 07:00 am

Are you using NETFOSS?
That is what is required to 'push' doors 'through' the telnet connecti

So will Netfoss prevent the door from opening up on the host computer and let it run naturally, on the computer calling in?

This is the nature of door programs: they are programs (usually 16-bit DOS, but not always) that execute on the host computer and usually the OS will create a container window or console to run the program in - that is normal. It is possible for the host (BBS) software to create the process (at least on Windows) in a hidden or minimized mode, so Mystic may have an option to that, but that is a separate problem from the remote client not seeing any outupt. NETFOSS can help you solve the latter issue only.
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Are you using NETFOSS?

So will Netfoss prevent the door from opening up on the host computer and let it run naturally, on the computer calling in?

For most doors, yes. Some doors even have command lines to use netfossils.
It 'reroutes' the display to the remote telnet connection.

Every door game on my BBS uses the netfoss routine. Windows machine.
LORD, Arrowbridge, OOII, etc.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Files 4 Fun BBS (21:2/120)

So will Netfoss prevent the door from opening up on the host computer and let it run naturally, on the computer calling in?

(ADDITIONAL)

You will still see a local NODE from MYSTIC that is minimized, that is MYSTIC, not the door itself -- it's called SNOOP mode.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Files 4 Fun BBS (21:2/120)

Feel free to send me an email and I will forward you some configs and
some .bat files for reference. NETFOSS is what is required to "route"
BBS door game "traffic" through the Telnet Tunnel to be viewed remotely. There are a few games that I gave up on because they would never show up remotely and would only show on the local PC screen.

Hi SirRonmit,

I'm a new Mystic BBS sysop. have a Proboard BBS but that is straight forward with net2bbs Netfoss config. I've been trying to find a way to load netfoss before the login routine, but I have failed.

Would you be willing to provide a netfoss howto for other new Mystic sysops like myself?

-- Taoron

... Nine times out of ten the statisticians are wrong

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Kingdom's End BBS | kingdomsend.net (21:2/131)

I'm a new Mystic BBS sysop. have a Proboard BBS but that is straight forward with net2bbs Netfoss config. I've been trying to find a way to load netfoss before the login routine, but I have failed.

The .txt file in the netfoss directory actually gives specifics - scroll to the MYSTIC BBS section.

\netfoss\nf.bat
@echo off
c:\mystic\netfoss.com %1
if errorlevel 1 goto end
c:\mystic\netfoss\netcom.exe %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
c:\mystic\netfoss\netfoss.com /u
:end

LORD DOOR Call from Mystic
c:\mystic\netfoss\nf.bat /N%3 /H%0 c:\doors\lord\startbat %3
REM %3 IS THE NODE NUMBER FROM MYSTIC

LORD BBS START.BAT
Use As Is

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Files 4 Fun BBS (21:2/120)

Re: Re: Problem with doors
By: SirRonmit to Taoron on Sun Jun 15 2025 03:34 pm

How do I add a door using dosemu please?
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P.Taylor wrote to SirRonmit <=-

Re: Re: Problem with doors
By: SirRonmit to Taoron on Sun Jun 15 2025 03:34 pm

How do I add a door using dosemu please?

Are you using Linux, Phil?

If you're on Windoze, you don't need dosemu.

What door? You're posting from a Synchronet board - are you running
Mystic?



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Every door game on my BBS uses the netfoss routine. Windows machine. LORD, Arrowbridge, OOII, etc.

Yes, that\s what I am trying to set up right now.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
* Origin: From the depths of Bunker 3 (21:1/130)

How do I add a door using dosemu please?

Sorry, can't help you there. I use WINDOWS.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Files 4 Fun BBS (21:2/120)

Re: Re: Problem with doors
By: Gamgee to P.Taylor on Sun Jun 15 2025 07:12 pm

If you're on Windoze, you don't need dosemu.

What door? You're posting from a Synchronet board - are you running
Mystic?

Hello

I am running Mystic on Windows 64 bit and the 16 and 32 bit doors will run on Windows 64. Is there a way to work around the issue to make it work?
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P.Taylor wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Problem with doors
By: Gamgee to P.Taylor on Sun Jun 15 2025 07:12 pm

If you're on Windoze, you don't need dosemu.

What door? You're posting from a Synchronet board - are you running
Mystic?

Hello

I am running Mystic on Windows 64 bit and the 16 and 32 bit doors will
run on Windows 64. Is there a way to work around the issue to make it work?

I assume you meant to say the doors will (NOT) run on Windows 64...
which is true.

Here's the fix:

https://github.com/leecher1337/ntvdmx64

I don't have personal experience with this, as I don't run Windows
(ever), but I know there are MANY sysops who use this successfully.



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The .txt file in the netfoss directory actually gives specifics - scroll to the MYSTIC BBS section.

\netfoss\nf.bat
@echo off
c:\mystic\netfoss.com %1
if errorlevel 1 goto end
c:\mystic\netfoss\netcom.exe %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
c:\mystic\netfoss\netfoss.com /u
:end

LORD DOOR Call from Mystic
c:\mystic\netfoss\nf.bat /N%3 /H%0 c:\doors\lord\startbat %3
REM %3 IS THE NODE NUMBER FROM MYSTIC

LORD BBS START.BAT
Use As Is

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Files 4 Fun BBS (21:2/120)

So it looks like I was doing everything correctly. The one thing I failed to know was that netfoss does NOT work with SSH so any doors using Netfoss and a caller using SSH will not work. Good to know, right?

... What does it mean to pre-board? Do you get on before you get on?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Kingdom's End BBS | kingdomsend.net (21:2/131)

So it looks like I was doing everything correctly. The one thing I
failed to know was that netfoss does NOT work with SSH so any doors
using Netfoss and a caller using SSH will not work. Good to know, right?

It would have save me many hours knowing that, a couple of years ago!

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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Altair IV BBS (21:2/147)

Re: Re: Problem with doors
By: Gamgee to P.Taylor on Sun Jun 15 2025 07:12 pm

If you're on Windoze, you don't need dosemu.

What door? You're posting from a Synchronet board - are you running Mystic?

Hello

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I'd strongly suggest a 32bit VM and Mystic. I personally don't trust
NTVDMX64.

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So it looks like I was doing everything correctly. The one thing I
failed to know was that netfoss does NOT work with SSH so any doors
using Netfoss and a caller using SSH will not work. Good to know, right?

I don't use SSH, so I'd have to play around with that. I use telnet from a webbrowser through a VPN (or callers can go direct to my IP via a terminal program - non-SSH).

That's the problem with trying to provide help today (I see it in 3D Printing and Laser etching as well as helping with vehicle issues), if we fail to get ALL the information, we thus fail to help the end user with getting them fixed.

Try telnet and see if they work. They should. Then you can research SSH alternatives.

Good to know, otherwise, indeed!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Files 4 Fun BBS (21:2/120)

So it looks like I was doing everything correctly. The one thing I failed know was that netfoss does NOT work with SSH so any doors using Netfoss an caller using SSH will not work. Good to know, right?

Here is how I have Mystic BBS SSH working on Archaic Binary.

Incoming SSH connections to the standard Mystic SSH server, and I use a 'startup.mps' file under scripts.

If (ServerType = 2) and (Server = 'SSH') Then Begin
// This is connection from SSH, making a loopback connection bridge.
MenuCmd('NA', 'SSH Loopback');
MenuCmd('GT', '|CL');
MenuCmd('IT', '/addr=127.0.0.1 /port=23 /PROMPT');
MenuCmd('GI', '');
End;

You might need to work around a few things, but my setup relies on the startup.mps to route connections based on their incoming servers.

SSH connection does nothing except loopback to the localhost to telnet so its still secure from the user end but Mystic now sees it as telnet and 'just works' with all the doors/etc.

Might help point you in a good direction.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Archaic Binary * bbs.archaicbinary.net (21:2/132)