• RE: keybase.io

    From Death2U@21:1/121 to Ogg on Sun Mar 26 12:51:18 2023
    I hate pgp but look up efail lol and gnuradio udp sink

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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to Death2U on Fri Mar 31 04:29:14 2023
    I gave keyboase a fair chance, for 2 weeks, but if tailed to convince me as a use case. It requires kernel extension on mac and behaves as root kit to me. Seems still more like R&D project than a legitimate product to me.

    -h1

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to hollowone on Fri Mar 31 06:29:00 2023
    hollowone wrote to Death2U <=-

    I gave keyboase a fair chance, for 2 weeks, but if tailed to convince
    me as a use case. It requires kernel extension on mac and behaves as
    root kit to me. Seems still more like R&D project than a legitimate product to me.

    Who was it that bought them -- zoom?

    It seemed like a great idea, having an encrypted space for all of your
    stuff, plus comms, plus collaboration rolled into one package. I never
    found a use for it, though.



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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Apr 1 11:35:40 2023
    Who was it that bought them -- zoom?

    Yeah, it's Zoom who's invested in them. And conceptually it makes sense.

    Zoom is just teleconferencing, a commodity service, where Zoom is one of tops, today. Tomorrow there will another player and many of us had different solutions in the past. I see no difference between TeamViewer, join.me, Hangouts and Zoom personally...

    They try to compete with MS Teams now and what MSTeams does great is file/doc based collaborations and discussions for enterprises, integrated already with their productivity suite, instead of just providing a skype like service they already had without any extra investment to compete with Zoom.

    Zoom does not have anything close to that workflow. They'd need to merge with Dropbox alikes and blend in some new capacities to be feature-wise, a match.

    With Keybase investment I thought, wow.. this is how they want to convert this R&D experiment into something productized... Perfect sense, although it's so premature that I don't see the value yet, even for personal use and for free (comparing to alternatives I know already). Blockchain is not an USP that makes a difference to me.


    It seemed like a great idea, having an encrypted space for all of your stuff, plus comms, plus collaboration rolled into one package. I never found a use for it, though.


    As I described above. Concept is great and if you imagine they have the capacity to blend Zoom's core proposition and Keybase's innovation into a proven product that could trigger enterprise companies, they'd nail it.

    But they run it like some community driven open source project and circulate around try&error (like with the public web space they just revoked) .. thus soon to be late to the core game, IMHO.

    So they will fail and I don't bother.

    I had some conversations with their devs to assess their awareness (being quite experienced MS365/Azure/Teams user today).. but those idiots have no clue or a vision I don't understand as enterprise level customer lead.

    So I ditched it as failed experiment, until they reconsider or I get evangelized better.

    -h1

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