• Re: Door Games

    From Exodus@21:1/144 to Maskreet on Wed Feb 11 20:23:06 2026
    have 0-3 players, maybe, for example. Setting up doors or a BBS shouldn't b gated with how technically-minded you are, that's dumb as hell and incredib elitist.

    I'm glad I kept that attitude over the last 33 years I've been online. :)

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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Bucko on Wed Feb 11 20:24:06 2026
    Actually, I run a Door Server on my systems. I set it up because at the tim was running 3 different software's on 3 different BBS' so instead of settin up the same games on each one, I set up a Door Server and replaced the D command on each BBS with a direct RLOGIN connection to the Server. Worked o very well..

    If it is your own, on the BBS machine, sure no issues. That is still you doing it. But I find it nutty to connect to someone for a door game that may or may not be there tomorrow.

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  • From maskreet@21:1/114 to Exodus on Wed Feb 11 22:22:38 2026
    On 11 Feb 2026, Exodus said the following...

    have 0-3 players, maybe, for example. Setting up doors or a BBS shouldn gated with how technically-minded you are, that's dumb as hell and incr elitist.

    I'm glad I kept that attitude over the last 33 years I've been online. :)

    I guess. Been online the same amount of time and never felt that way.

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  • From maskreet@21:1/114 to Exodus on Wed Feb 11 22:26:46 2026
    On 11 Feb 2026, Exodus said the following...

    Actually, I run a Door Server on my systems. I set it up because at the was running 3 different software's on 3 different BBS' so instead of se up the same games on each one, I set up a Door Server and replaced the command on each BBS with a direct RLOGIN connection to the Server. Work very well..

    If it is your own, on the BBS machine, sure no issues. That is still
    you doing it. But I find it nutty to connect to someone for a door
    game that may or may not be there tomorrow.

    Then why bother connecting to echonets? It's the same principle.

    I could see being a little hesitant to try one that's only been around for a while, but DoorParty is the longest-serving door server in the world with almost 100% uptime since 2013. BBSlink has been up marginally shorter, maybe 9 months less. If you're hesitant about two servers that have been around continuously for around 13 years, then I dunno what to tell you.

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  • From Atreyu@21:1/176 to Maskreet on Thu Feb 12 07:01:03 2026
    On 11 Feb 26 22:26:46, Maskreet said the following to Exodus:

    If it is your own, on the BBS machine, sure no issues. That is still you doing it. But I find it nutty to connect to someone for a door game that may or may not be there tomorrow.

    Then why bother connecting to echonets? It's the same principle.

    Ohhh this hilarious nonsense again. Why bother with Linux, it can't run doors?

    At least once or twice a year I can count on reading a Linux Sysop appearing
    to trip over himself to get doors to run. He'll screw around with Dosbox, Dosemu, can't pass a handle, can't pass a socket... can't pass gas.

    The effort I see that person screwing around with Linux that clearly was never designed to run MS-DOS could be spent refurbing a cheap PC with an OS that IS designed to run DOS, thus able to run ANY board with ANY door.... XP and 7.

    Atreyu

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  • From maskreet@21:1/114 to Atreyu on Thu Feb 12 10:16:59 2026
    On 12 Feb 2026, Atreyu said the following...

    Then why bother connecting to echonets? It's the same principle.

    Ohhh this hilarious nonsense again. Why bother with Linux, it can't run doors?

    At least once or twice a year I can count on reading a Linux Sysop appearing to trip over himself to get doors to run. He'll screw around with Dosbox, Dosemu, can't pass a handle, can't pass a socket... can't pass gas.

    The effort I see that person screwing around with Linux that clearly was never designed to run MS-DOS could be spent refurbing a cheap PC with an OS that IS designed to run DOS, thus able to run ANY board with ANY door.... XP and 7.

    I'm not sure if this is for or against my reply. I was just saying that his argument as to why connecting to door servers as ephemeral didn't make any sense since echonets were in the same vein, so why bother with anything remote for content.

    As an aside, I ran DoorParty under Linux with dosemu easily for years before switching to a different BBS software and OS/VM. It wasn't difficult. At least for me, getting it to run in an OS that wasn't designed originally for doors was part of the fun!

    It's why I also setup how-tos on running old DOS text adventure games under a BBS and running Mystic BBS on a jailbroken Android phone, it was fun just seeing if I could.

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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Atreyu on Thu Feb 12 16:18:57 2026

    Dosemu, can't pass a handle, can't pass a socket... can't pass gas.

    ahhahahaahha ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    The effort I see that person screwing around with Linux that clearly was ne designed to run MS-DOS could be spent refurbing a cheap PC with an OS that designed to run DOS, thus able to run ANY board with ANY door.... XP and 7.

    Yup. My BBS machine was $40.00, I remote pc into it and thus don't need another monitor. Sits quietly in the corner and just "runs".

    ... I saw Elvis. He sat between me and Bigfoot on the UFO.

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  • From Atreyu@21:1/176 to Maskreet on Thu Feb 12 17:35:23 2026
    On 12 Feb 26 10:16:59, Maskreet said the following to Atreyu:

    I'm not sure if this is for or against my reply. I was just saying that his argument as to why connecting to door servers as ephemeral didn't make any sense since echonets were in the same vein, so why bother with anything remo

    Its only my observation. Sometimes callers like to play a door that can only
    be set up for turns in a way only possible when ran by the Sysop. Getting that door running is part of the fun of tinkering you mention.

    You might not like what Exodus wrote but he does run arguably "the" largest setup of doors I've ever seen anyone crazy enough to run. He can be considered a subject matter expert on doorgames. He knows what doors have the most
    quirks, all the fun ones, the ones users love seeing different instances of, etc... maybe subjective but really can't get that type of fun elsewhere.

    I'm not sure I understand the Echonet comparison since its possible to peer to avoid catastrophes with a Hub who vanishes from planet Earth.

    Atreyu

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Exodus on Thu Feb 12 12:36:45 2026
    On 11 Feb 2026, Exodus said the following...

    If it is your own, on the BBS machine, sure no issues. That is still
    you doing it. But I find it nutty to connect to someone for a door
    game that may or may not be there tomorrow.


    I understand.. :)


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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Atreyu on Thu Feb 12 09:55:46 2026
    Re: Re: Door Games
    By: Atreyu to Maskreet on Thu Feb 12 2026 07:01 am

    The effort I see that person screwing around with Linux that clearly was never designed to run MS-DOS could be spent refurbing a cheap PC with an OS that IS designed to run DOS, thus able to run ANY board with ANY door.... XP and 7.

    I was running my BBS in a 32-bit edition of Windows for that reason for a long time. I have a dedicated PC for my BBS, but I also use that PC for other things as well (namely, a media server for my movies, TV shows, & such). Because I'm using that PC for more than one thing, I wanted it to have more than 4GB of RAM, and for that, I wanted a 64-bit OS on it. So I installed a 64-bit Linux on it years ago, and I continued to run my BBS in a 32-bit Windows VM on it for quite a while.

    Eventually (and I'm not sure why, exactly), I started to tire of running a VM on it all the time, and I also thought it would be a cleaner setup if my BBS was running in the Linux host OS so that I wouldn't have to run the VM anymore. I moved my BBS to Linux, and I also got DOS doors working with dosbox (and I'm now using dosbox2). IMO I don't think it was exceedingly difficult (it was actually fairly simple to do, at least with Synchronet). As a bonus, my BBS runs faster too now that it's not running in a VM. I'm happy with the setup. I'd rather not buy yet another dedicated PC to run my BBS with a 32-bit Windows.

    Nightfox
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  • From Codefenix@21:4/141 to Nightfox on Thu Feb 12 15:14:22 2026
    Re: Re: Door Games
    By: Nightfox to Atreyu on Thu Feb 12 2026 09:55 am

    Eventually (and I'm not sure why, exactly), I started to tire of running a VM on it all the time, and I also thought it would be a cleaner setup if my BBS was running in the Linux host OS so that I wouldn't have to run the VM anymore. I moved my BBS to Linux, and I also got DOS doors working with dosbox (and I'm now using dosbox2). IMO I don't think it was exceedingly difficult (it was actually fairly simple to do, at least with Synchronet). As a bonus, my BBS runs faster too now that it's not running in a VM. I'm happy with the setup. I'd rather not buy yet another dedicated PC to run my BBS with a 32-bit Windows.

    While I won't be migrating off Windows any time soon, I do expect I'll be heading to Linux eventually. Also running Synchronet here and ideally also would prefer to do it without VMs or extra PCs, so it's good to know at least one other sysop is having success with such a setup.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Codefenix on Thu Feb 12 12:25:12 2026
    Re: Re: Door Games
    By: Codefenix to Nightfox on Thu Feb 12 2026 03:14 pm

    While I won't be migrating off Windows any time soon, I do expect I'll be heading to Linux eventually. Also running Synchronet here and ideally also would prefer to do it without VMs or extra PCs, so it's good to know at least one other sysop is having success with such a setup.

    I think the migration from Windows to Linux went fairly smoothly. Some time before I moved it to Linux though, I was using Radius as my FTN mailer and decided to switch to Synchronet's BinkIt. BinkIt is written in Synchronet's JavaScript and would thus run anywhere Synchronet runs (whereas Radius is a Windows application). So for me, switching to BinkIt helped. Also, after moving my BBS to Linux, I had to go through and make sure the paths for all my doors was correct (Synchronet doesn't seem to care about slashes, but it was now using Linux paths rather than Windows paths with drive letters). Many of my paths configured in Synchronet were already relative paths, which was a plus. Then there was setting up dosemu for DOS doors. That was pretty much it. I also made a service configuration for Synchronet so that I could run Synchronet in the background with the service mechanism, which is nice.

    Nightfox
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  • From MIKE POWELL@21:4/134 to ATREYU on Fri Feb 13 08:19:00 2026
    At least once or twice a year I can count on reading a Linux Sysop appearing to trip over himself to get doors to run. He'll screw around with Dosbox, Dosemu, can't pass a handle, can't pass a socket... can't pass gas.

    I could just as easily substitute Win 64 for linux here.

    In both cases, I suspect they either use the computer for other things
    that need a modern os, or they want to run the latest version of (insert
    BBS software still in development here). They don't want to be stuck with Renegade or (in my case) GT Power which, yeah, run DOS doors great but are
    a lot harder to get connected to the internet than, say, a BBS that runs
    under linux or win 10+.
    Mike
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  • From CloudDancer@21:3/226 to Atreyu on Fri Feb 13 18:53:20 2026
    Hey,

    Ohhh this hilarious nonsense again. Why bother with Linux, it can't run doors?

    At least once or twice a year I can count on reading a Linux Sysop appearing to trip over himself to get doors to run. He'll screw around with Dosbox, Dosemu, can't pass a handle, can't pass a socket... can't pass gas.

    I have a write-up coming on how to do this. I have Mystic on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS and am running DOS doors no problem. Yes it took 6 hours to figure out, but I did it ;)

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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Codefenix on Fri Feb 13 18:17:00 2026

    Re: Re: Door Games
    By: Nightfox to Atreyu on Thu Feb 12 2026 09:55 am

    Eventually (and I'm not sure why, exactly), I started to tire of
    running a
    VM on it all the time, and I also thought it would be a cleaner setup
    if
    my BBS was running in the Linux host OS so that I wouldn't have to
    run the
    VM anymore. I moved my BBS to Linux, and I also got DOS doors working
    with
    dosbox (and I'm now using dosbox2). IMO I don't think it was
    exceedingly
    difficult (it was actually fairly simple to do, at least with
    Synchronet).
    As a bonus, my BBS runs faster too now that it's not running in a VM.
    I'm
    happy with the setup. I'd rather not buy yet another dedicated PC to
    run
    my BBS with a 32-bit Windows.

    While I won't be migrating off Windows any time soon, I do expect I'll be heading to Linux eventually. Also running Synchronet here and ideally also would prefer to do it without VMs or extra PCs, so it's good to know at least one other sysop is having success with such a setup.

    I would love to switch to Linux, but the EleBBS binaries won't run external programs and I haven't been able to figure out how to compile the source...

    --
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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Shurato on Fri Feb 13 17:58:17 2026
    Re: Re: Door Games
    By: Shurato to Codefenix on Fri Feb 13 2026 06:17 pm

    I would love to switch to Linux, but the EleBBS binaries won't run external programs and I haven't been able to figure out how to compile the source...

    I started using EleBBS in 2007 (since it's like RemoteAccess, which I used in the 90s), but didn't stick with it.. I just loaded the EleBBS web site, and it's displaying the EleBBS.com header but nothing else. I was curious to see what language it's written in. If it's written in C or C++, you should be able to compile it with gcc or g++. I don't know if it comes with a makefile or anything to make the build process easier. And curious that it won't run external programs..

    The reason I didn't stick with it (on Windows at the time) was that it wasn't exiting with the defined errorlevels to run events (such as my nightly maintenance event). I thought that was a bug, but I don't know if there was a way around that.

    Nightfox
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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Nightfox on Sat Feb 14 15:16:00 2026

    * In a message originally to Shurato, Nightfox said:

    Re: Re: Door Games By: Shurato to Codefenix on Fri Feb 13 2026 06:17
    pm

    I would love to switch to Linux, but the EleBBS binaries won't run external programs and I haven't been able to figure out how to
    compile the
    source...

    I started using EleBBS in 2007 (since it's like RemoteAccess, which I used in the 90s), but didn't stick with it.. I just loaded the EleBBS web
    site, and it's displaying the EleBBS.com header but nothing else. I was curious to see what language it's written in. If it's written in C or
    C++, you should be able to compile it with gcc or g++. I don't know if it comes with a makefile or anything to make the build process easier. And curious that it won't run external programs..

    It's Pascal.

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