Yup, the experience moshix is
going for is MVS/ZOS experience -
not sure if you have ever used
mainframes?

Oh cool! Nope, I'm pretty green when it comes to connecting to an actual mainframe so this is all new to me. Really fun to try out, I'll have to log back in later and poke around a bit more. :) Glad to hear my double log out is expected behavior.


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I just checked it out. Really cool!! Such a different exp than other BBS I've been to.

Side note, I had to log out twice to disconnect. I logged out at the menu and then that dropped me to a READY prompt where I disconnected again. Is that how
it's suppose to be?

On a "real" mainframe, that is how it works. When you type 'x'<enter>, you
are logging out of the user interface. That takes you out to the TSO "command line" where you type in "logoff"<enter> and the connection drops.

Getting into SDSF and seeing user sessions "running" was pretty neat for an
old mainframe user. Probably wouldn't mean anything to someone who'd never seen such a thing. ;)


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On 20 Aug 2025 at 09:09a, Dumas Walker pondered and said...

On a "real" mainframe, that is how it works. When you type 'x'<enter>, you are logging out of the user interface. That takes you out to the
TSO "command line" where you type in "logoff"<enter> and the connection drops.

Ah...TSO. I can't remember if it was TSO or TSS that was the
inspiration for the old quip about kicking a dead whale down the
beach.

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By: Dumas Walker to SLACKER on Wed Aug 20 2025 09:09 am

Howdy,

Getting into SDSF and seeing user sessions "running" was pretty neat for an old mainframe user. Probably wouldn't mean anything to someone who'd never seen such a thing. ;)

Did you see the MVS console M -> O?

You can issue some mvs console commands :)


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Did you see the MVS console M -> O?

You can issue some mvs console commands :)

No, I will have to check that out.


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On a "real" mainframe, that is how it works. When you type 'x'<enter>, you are logging out of the user interface. That takes you out to the TSO "command line" where you type in "logoff"<enter> and the connection drops.

Ah...TSO. I can't remember if it was TSO or TSS that was the
inspiration for the old quip about kicking a dead whale down the
beach.

Since I have never heard that old quip, I am guessing it must have been
about TSS. ;)


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On 21 Aug 2025 at 09:21a, Dumas Walker pondered and said...

On a "real" mainframe, that is how it works. When you type 'x'<ent you are logging out of the user interface. That takes you out to t TSO "command line" where you type in "logoff"<enter> and the connec drops.

Ah...TSO. I can't remember if it was TSO or TSS that was the inspiration for the old quip about kicking a dead whale down the
beach.

Since I have never heard that old quip, I am guessing it must have been about TSS. ;)

Ah, apparently it _was_ about TSO. Paul McLellan wrote about it
over on the cadence blog:

https://community.cadence.com/cadence_blogs_8/b/breakfast-bytes/posts/kernighan

(In the section, "Meeting Brian"; I guess Brian Kernighan [co-author
of, "The C Programming Language", along with Dennis Ritchie, who created
the C language, and long-time Bell Labs researcher who's now at Princeton
and Google] either coined it or relayed it.)

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Ah...TSO. I can't remember if it was TSO or TSS that was the inspiration for the old quip about kicking a dead whale down the beach.

Since I have never heard that old quip, I am guessing it must have been about TSS. ;)

Ah, apparently it _was_ about TSO. Paul McLellan wrote about it
over on the cadence blog:

Interesting. I never found it to be nearly that tedious.


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On 22 Aug 2025 at 10:49a, Dumas Walker pondered and said...

Ah...TSO. I can't remember if it was TSO or TSS that was the inspiration for the old quip about kicking a dead whale down the beach.

Since I have never heard that old quip, I am guessing it must have about TSS. ;)

Ah, apparently it _was_ about TSO. Paul McLellan wrote about it
over on the cadence blog:

Interesting. I never found it to be nearly that tedious.

At some point, someone had written a fake shell for Unix that
mimmicked TSS or TSO, as a joke. It was unpleasant.

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