• Did anyone watch Line of Fire?

    From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Thu Sep 24 13:31:08 2026
    I finally watched the Line of Fire pilot and have been looking through
    What Did You Watches to see what others thought of it but I can't find
    any indication of anyone else trying it.

    It seemed that there was an attempt to channel Blue Bloods with the
    entire family in some aspect of law enforcement, whether in the Secret Service, DOJ, Marshals or whatever. They even had a family dinner scene
    but it had none of the warmth that they tried to convey in Blue Bloods;
    the family members all seemed to be manipulating one another and/or
    evade one another. They even had a dead son, like the Reagans, or so it
    seemed at first.

    I found the dead son who wasn't really dead a weird touch. Then the
    origami figures he left at the killing of the daughter's boyfriend tied
    him to the murder of the two people in the opening scenes. It's not
    clear if it's only the parents that know the son is still alive.

    I'll watch a bit longer but I'm already dubious about several aspects of
    this, including the son that's the Secret Service agent banging his
    protectee. Given that one of the shows producers is Jenna Bush, it
    immediately raises the question of whether this is something she herself experienced and worked into the show or whether it's just something she fantasized about? Hey wasn't BTR1701 the agent in charge of one of the
    Bush twins??

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  • From Ian J. Ball@3:633/10 to All on Thu Sep 24 11:19:44 2026
    On 9/24/26 10:31 AM, Rhino wrote:

    I finally watched the Line of Fire pilot and have been looking through
    What Did You Watches to see what others thought of it but I can't find
    any indication of anyone else trying it.

    I had it on as background (muted), and so was not paying close attention.

    From what I could see, it seemed over-the-top to me.

    Meanwhile, I did the same with "Best Medicine", and that show clearly
    seems to be trying to channel "Northern Exposure"...

    It seemed that there was an attempt to channel Blue Bloods with the
    entire family in some aspect of law enforcement, whether in the Secret Service, DOJ, Marshals or whatever. They even had a family dinner scene
    but it had none of the warmth that they tried to convey in Blue Bloods;
    the family members all seemed to be manipulating one another and/or
    evade one another. They even had a dead son, like the Reagans, or so it seemed at first.

    I found the dead son who wasn't really dead a weird touch. Then the
    origami figures he left at the killing of the daughter's boyfriend tied
    him to the murder of the two people in the opening scenes. It's not
    clear if it's only the parents that know the son is still alive.

    I'll watch a bit longer but I'm already dubious about several aspects of this, including the son that's the Secret Service agent banging his protectee. Given that one of the shows producers is Jenna Bush, it immediately raises the question of whether this is something she herself experienced and worked into the show or whether it's just something she fantasized about? Hey wasn't BTR1701 the agent in charge of one of the
    Bush twins??




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  • From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Thu Sep 24 16:31:30 2026
    On 2026-09-24 2:19 p.m., Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 9/24/26 10:31 AM, Rhino wrote:

    I finally watched the Line of Fire pilot and have been looking through
    What Did You Watches to see what others thought of it but I can't find
    any indication of anyone else trying it.

    I had it on as background (muted), and so was not paying close attention.

    From what I could see, it seemed over-the-top to me.

    Meanwhile, I did the same with "Best Medicine", and that show clearly
    seems to be trying to channel "Northern Exposure"...

    You're aware that Best Medicine is essentially the American remake of
    the British series Doc Martin, right? It's even got the same producers.
    But yeah, there is a Northern Exposure vibe too given that it's a small community populated with eccentric characters. Hmm. I wonder if the Doc
    Martin creators were inspired by Northern Exposure?

    It seemed that there was an attempt to channel Blue Bloods with the
    entire family in some aspect of law enforcement, whether in the Secret
    Service, DOJ, Marshals or whatever. They even had a family dinner
    scene but it had none of the warmth that they tried to convey in Blue
    Bloods; the family members all seemed to be manipulating one another
    and/or evade one another. They even had a dead son, like the Reagans,
    or so it seemed at first.

    I found the dead son who wasn't really dead a weird touch. Then the
    origami figures he left at the killing of the daughter's boyfriend
    tied him to the murder of the two people in the opening scenes. It's
    not clear if it's only the parents that know the son is still alive.

    I'll watch a bit longer but I'm already dubious about several aspects
    of this, including the son that's the Secret Service agent banging his
    protectee. Given that one of the shows producers is Jenna Bush, it
    immediately raises the question of whether this is something she
    herself experienced and worked into the show or whether it's just
    something she fantasized about? Hey wasn't BTR1701 the agent in charge
    of one of the Bush twins??



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  • From The True Melissa@3:633/10 to All on Thu Sep 24 18:06:17 2026
    Rhino wrote in article <11941b2$314q7$1@dont-email.me>:
    On 2026-09-24 2:19 p.m., Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 9/24/26 10:31 AM, Rhino wrote:

    I finally watched the Line of Fire pilot and have been looking through
    What Did You Watches to see what others thought of it but I can't find
    any indication of anyone else trying it.

    I had it on as background (muted), and so was not paying close attention.

    From what I could see, it seemed over-the-top to me.

    Meanwhile, I did the same with "Best Medicine", and that show clearly seems to be trying to channel "Northern Exposure"...

    You're aware that Best Medicine is essentially the American remake of
    the British series Doc Martin, right? It's even got the same producers.
    But yeah, there is a Northern Exposure vibe too given that it's a small community populated with eccentric characters. Hmm. I wonder if the Doc Martin creators were inspired by Northern Exposure?


    Maybe. I've been watching Best Medicine, which isn't great but is
    watchable.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Thu Sep 24 20:45:34 2026
    On 9/24/2026 11:19 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 9/24/26 10:31 AM, Rhino wrote:

    I finally watched the Line of Fire pilot and have been looking through
    What Did You Watches to see what others thought of it but I can't find
    any indication of anyone else trying it.

    I had it on as background (muted), and so was not paying close attention.

    From what I could see, it seemed over-the-top to me.

    Just the concept of an entire family of federal law enforcement agents
    didn't scream "over the top" to you?

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    dirty old man.

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  • From Todd@3:633/10 to All on Fri Sep 25 20:26:09 2026
    Rhino wrote :

    I finally watched the Line of Fire pilot and have been looking through
    What Did You Watches to see what others thought of it but I can't find
    any indication of anyone else trying it.

    Watched it, mostly because there's not much new programming on OTA
    TV. Not sure how long I'll stick with it, though. Gonna see how
    they develop the assassin brother thing.

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Sat Sep 26 21:34:23 2026
    On Sep 24, 2026 at 10:31:08 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I finally watched the Line of Fire pilot and have been looking through
    What Did You Watches to see what others thought of it but I can't find
    any indication of anyone else trying it.

    It seemed that there was an attempt to channel Blue Bloods with the
    entire family in some aspect of law enforcement, whether in the Secret Service, DOJ, Marshals or whatever. They even had a family dinner scene
    but it had none of the warmth that they tried to convey in Blue Bloods;
    the family members all seemed to be manipulating one another and/or
    evade one another. They even had a dead son, like the Reagans, or so it seemed at first.

    I found the dead son who wasn't really dead a weird touch. Then the
    origami figures he left at the killing of the daughter's boyfriend tied
    him to the murder of the two people in the opening scenes. It's not
    clear if it's only the parents that know the son is still alive.

    I'll watch a bit longer but I'm already dubious about several aspects of this, including the son that's the Secret Service agent banging his protectee. Given that one of the shows producers is Jenna Bush, it immediately raises the question of whether this is something she herself experienced and worked into the show or whether it's just something she fantasized about? Hey wasn't BTR1701 the agent in charge of one of the
    Bush twins??

    So having now watched this, it's just horrible. The young USSS agent is so incompetent and slipshod that I have no idea how he graduated Beltsville. And that's not even counting him fucking his protectee. From the first moment,
    when they pulled up in the motorcade and he gets out and just opens the car door one-handed, not blocking line of sight to the girl with his body and then shutting the door the moment she gets out, instead of leaving it open until
    she was safely in the building, I knew this show was going to be highly silly. And on top of that, this moron apparently waits to build out his security plan and conduct his site advance until *after* the protectee arrives! That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works.

    Then there's Mom, who's a U.S. Marshal and casually reassigns her FBI agent daughter to work a non-FBI case when she would have literally zero authority
    to do any of that.

    And what the hell is Dad? Is he a SAIC? He's about to retire, so we would assume he's senior enough to be some kind of boss, but he's only ever referred to as a SA, and he's working intelligence cases at headquarters, which means he's just a hump GS-13 and that means he wouldn't be the "legend" everyone was making him out to be. Legends don't retire at the same rank as they graduated the academy with.

    I might continue to snark-watch this, but I don't expect it to get any
    better.



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  • From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Sat Sep 26 18:34:13 2026
    On 2026-09-26 5:34 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Sep 24, 2026 at 10:31:08 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I finally watched the Line of Fire pilot and have been looking through
    What Did You Watches to see what others thought of it but I can't find
    any indication of anyone else trying it.

    It seemed that there was an attempt to channel Blue Bloods with the
    entire family in some aspect of law enforcement, whether in the Secret
    Service, DOJ, Marshals or whatever. They even had a family dinner scene
    but it had none of the warmth that they tried to convey in Blue Bloods;
    the family members all seemed to be manipulating one another and/or
    evade one another. They even had a dead son, like the Reagans, or so it
    seemed at first.

    I found the dead son who wasn't really dead a weird touch. Then the
    origami figures he left at the killing of the daughter's boyfriend tied
    him to the murder of the two people in the opening scenes. It's not
    clear if it's only the parents that know the son is still alive.

    I'll watch a bit longer but I'm already dubious about several aspects of
    this, including the son that's the Secret Service agent banging his
    protectee. Given that one of the shows producers is Jenna Bush, it
    immediately raises the question of whether this is something she herself
    experienced and worked into the show or whether it's just something she
    fantasized about? Hey wasn't BTR1701 the agent in charge of one of the
    Bush twins??

    So having now watched this, it's just horrible. The young USSS agent is so incompetent and slipshod that I have no idea how he graduated Beltsville. And that's not even counting him fucking his protectee. From the first moment, when they pulled up in the motorcade and he gets out and just opens the car door one-handed, not blocking line of sight to the girl with his body and then
    shutting the door the moment she gets out, instead of leaving it open until she was safely in the building, I knew this show was going to be highly silly.
    And on top of that, this moron apparently waits to build out his security plan
    and conduct his site advance until *after* the protectee arrives! That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works.

    Then there's Mom, who's a U.S. Marshal and casually reassigns her FBI agent daughter to work a non-FBI case when she would have literally zero authority to do any of that.

    And what the hell is Dad? Is he a SAIC? He's about to retire, so we would assume he's senior enough to be some kind of boss, but he's only ever referred
    to as a SA, and he's working intelligence cases at headquarters, which means he's just a hump GS-13 and that means he wouldn't be the "legend" everyone was
    making him out to be. Legends don't retire at the same rank as they graduated the academy with.

    I might continue to snark-watch this, but I don't expect it to get any better.

    Thanks for your comments. I knew you would have the most expertise on
    how credible any of this was. It felt hokey to me but it's not my field
    so I prefer to defer to experts.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Sat Sep 26 23:39:19 2026
    On Sep 26, 2026 at 3:34:13 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-09-26 5:34 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Sep 24, 2026 at 10:31:08 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    I finally watched the Line of Fire pilot and have been looking through
    What Did You Watches to see what others thought of it but I can't find
    any indication of anyone else trying it.

    It seemed that there was an attempt to channel Blue Bloods with the
    entire family in some aspect of law enforcement, whether in the Secret
    Service, DOJ, Marshals or whatever. They even had a family dinner scene >>> but it had none of the warmth that they tried to convey in Blue Bloods; >>> the family members all seemed to be manipulating one another and/or
    evade one another. They even had a dead son, like the Reagans, or so it >>> seemed at first.

    I found the dead son who wasn't really dead a weird touch. Then the
    origami figures he left at the killing of the daughter's boyfriend tied >>> him to the murder of the two people in the opening scenes. It's not
    clear if it's only the parents that know the son is still alive.

    I'll watch a bit longer but I'm already dubious about several aspects of >>> this, including the son that's the Secret Service agent banging his
    protectee. Given that one of the shows producers is Jenna Bush, it
    immediately raises the question of whether this is something she herself >>> experienced and worked into the show or whether it's just something she >>> fantasized about? Hey wasn't BTR1701 the agent in charge of one of the
    Bush twins??

    So having now watched this, it's just horrible. The young USSS agent is so >> incompetent and slipshod that I have no idea how he graduated Beltsville. >> And
    that's not even counting him fucking his protectee. From the first moment, >> when they pulled up in the motorcade and he gets out and just opens the car >> door one-handed, not blocking line of sight to the girl with his body and >> then
    shutting the door the moment she gets out, instead of leaving it open until >> she was safely in the building, I knew this show was going to be highly
    silly.
    And on top of that, this moron apparently waits to build out his security >> plan
    and conduct his site advance until *after* the protectee arrives! That's not
    how it works. That's not how any of it works.

    Then there's Mom, who's a U.S. Marshal and casually reassigns her FBI agent >> daughter to work a non-FBI case when she would have literally zero authority
    to do any of that.

    And what the hell is Dad? Is he a SAIC? He's about to retire, so we would >> assume he's senior enough to be some kind of boss, but he's only ever
    referred
    to as a SA, and he's working intelligence cases at headquarters, which means
    he's just a hump GS-13 and that means he wouldn't be the "legend" everyone >> was
    making him out to be. Legends don't retire at the same rank as they
    graduated
    the academy with.

    I might continue to snark-watch this, but I don't expect it to get any
    better.

    Thanks for your comments. I knew you would have the most expertise on
    how credible any of this was. It felt hokey to me but it's not my field
    so I prefer to defer to experts.

    My favorite cringe moment was when the FBI girl arrived at the murder scene in the woods and she gets out of the car in a full-length duster-style overcoat and it has the yellow FBI letters on the lapel and on the back. So we've apparently moved on from the blue windbreakers to an entire line of crime scene-wear for the stylish agent on the go.

    That's as bad as Missy Peregrym and her colleagues over on the FBI show who
    all wear identical puffy jackets under their raid vests as some kind of
    bizarre uniform.

    https://ibb.co/FqjjBPJ8

    They don't just don them to run a raid or work a crime scene, they show up to work in these things. This is how they leave their house in the morning. This is what they wear to go interview a witness or talk to a victim ini the hospital. And they always wonder why their suspects are running away from
    them. When you get out of the car wearing FBI emblazoned across your chest in 84-point font, big surprise they can see you coming from a block away.



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  • From danny burstein@3:633/10 to All on Sun Sep 27 00:25:30 2026
    In <YXWdnRQju_46yiX3nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> writes:

    [snip]

    My favorite cringe moment was when the FBI girl arrived at the murder scene in

    the woods and she gets out of the car in a full-length duster-style overcoat

    and it has the yellow FBI letters on the lapel and on the back. So we've

    apparently moved on from the blue windbreakers to an entire line of crime

    scene-wear for the stylish agent on the go.

    That's as bad as Missy Peregrym and her colleagues over on the FBI show who

    all wear identical puffy jackets under their raid vests as some kind of

    bizarre uniform.

    my similar cringe moment(s) was in the kind of decent
    for some of the episodes, "The Last Ship". Basic theme
    was they had been sent to the Arctic to track down
    the initial source of a 95 percent lethal disease
    that's klling off just about everyone.

    There are some warfare scenes with calls to "general quarters"
    and "battle stations". So they're all wearing life jackets.

    Which in the show are solid black...

    (In the real world they'd almost always be that high
    visibility orange)



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