I thought UK was in England, but
it sounds like everyone is from France.
On Mon, 14 Sep 2026 21:47:33 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
I thought UK was in England, but
it sounds like everyone is from France.
No, you got that wrong.
The UK is not in England; England is in the UK, though perhaps not for
much longer.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
Steve Hayes wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2026 21:47:33 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
I thought UK was in England, but
it sounds like everyone is from France.
No, you got that wrong.
The UK is not in England; England is in the UK, though perhaps not for
much longer.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
According to https://www.economist.com/ South Africa is a Mafia state.
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
Daniel Webster invented the Webster English dictionary to get rid of all those England/French sounding words like colour to color.It seems you can benefit from watching /Yes, Minister/. If nothing
UK needs to read Webster's Dictionary to learn English!
It's an elevator, not a lift.
On 9/16/2026 2:32 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
Steve Hayes wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2026 21:47:33 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
I thought UK was in England, but
it sounds like everyone is from France.
No, you got that wrong.
The UK is not in England; England is in the UK, though perhaps not for
much longer.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
According to https://www.economist.com/ South Africa is a Mafia state.
So? I'm from Iceland, yet I can teach you nothing about money laundry.
I don't even have a bank account in Panama.
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
Daniel Webster invented the Webster English dictionary to get rid of all those England/French sounding words like colour to color.
UK needs to read Webster's Dictionary to learn English!
It's an elevator, not a lift.It seems you can benefit from watching /Yes, Minister/. If nothing
else, you'll learn a lot of complicated verbiage, and enjoy a joke or
three.
Best wishes, and happy Bri'ish TV!
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Best wishes, and happy Bri'ish TV!
Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> posted:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2026 21:47:33 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
I thought UK was in England, but
it sounds like everyone is from France.
No, you got that wrong.
Well, yes he did. But what do you expect from The Starmaker?
The UK is not in England; England is in the UK, though perhaps not for
much longer.
I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the referendum
they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost. As it happened, I went to a meeting at Ross Priory in the week of the referendum, and on the 40 minute taxi ride from Glasgow I passed just one referendum poster in any window that we passed. I had the impression that no one was too bothered either way.
I don't know about Plaid Cymru.
So far as Northern Ireland is concerned, it's clear that there is still a very
clear majority for staying in the UK, whatever the orange loon may say.
--
athel
Aidan Kehoe wrote:
Ar an s‚£ l d‚ag de m¡ M‚an F¢mhair, scr¡obh John Kerr-Mudd:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 16:35:12 GMT
athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
wrote:
[...] So far as Northern Ireland is concerned, it's
clear that there is still a very clear majority for
staying in the UK, whatever the orange loon may say.
IIRC Ian Paisley is (at last) staying quiet.
Well, he's dead. Ian ?g doesn?t have the political power
his father does.
... while the Jeffrey Donaldson case isn't helping the DUP's
profile much either.
It's clear what way the wind is blowing on this island... but
as the old saying goes, Rome wasn't built in a day.
On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 16:35:12 GMT, athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> posted:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2026 21:47:33 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
I thought UK was in England, but
it sounds like everyone is from France.
No, you got that wrong.
Well, yes he did. But what do you expect from The Starmaker?
I don't expect much in the way of geographical knowledge from anyone
in the UK or US after watching numerous TV quiz shows.
Of course some people don't take kindly to correction, and even try to propagate false information. I still recall when PTD tried very hard
to persuade me that El Paso, Illinois did not exist, despite my having
some relatives who were born there and some that still lived there.
Den 17.09.2026 kl. 06.28 skrev Steve Hayes:
Of course some people don't take kindly to correction, and even try to propagate false information. I still recall when PTD tried very hard
to persuade me that El Paso, Illinois did not exist, despite my having
some relatives who were born there and some that still lived there.
El Paso certainly exists. It appears in a Danish children's song.
Jeg har min hest jeg har min lasso. (hest = horse)
Jeg har min k‘r'ste i El Paso. (k‘reste = sweetheart)
--
Bertel, Kolt, Danmark
Ar an seacht£ l d‚ag de m¡ M‚an F¢mhair, scr¡obh Bertel Lund Hansen:
Den 17.09.2026 kl. 06.28 skrev Steve Hayes:
Of course some people don't take kindly to correction, and even try to propagate false information. I still recall when PTD tried very hard
to persuade me that El Paso, Illinois did not exist, despite my having some relatives who were born there and some that still lived there.
El Paso certainly exists. It appears in a Danish children's song.
Jeg har min hest jeg har min lasso. (hest = horse)
Jeg har min k‘r'ste i El Paso. (k‘reste = sweetheart)
But is that El Paso, Texas, or El Paso, Illinois?
Or theoretically El Paso (Cochabamba), Bolivia, El Paso (Cesar), Colombia, El Paso (La Palma), Spain, El Paso, Guyana, El Paso (Sonora), Mexico, El Paso (Wisconsin), or the county of El Paso in Colorado.
--
?As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /
How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stout?
(C. Moore)
Den 17.09.2026 kl. 08.25 skrev Aidan Kehoe:
> El Paso certainly exists. It appears in a Danish children's song.
>
> Jeg har min hest jeg har min lasso. (hest = horse)
> Jeg har min k‘r'ste i El Paso. (k‘reste = sweetheart)
But is that El Paso, Texas, or El Paso, Illinois?
I never thought about that before, but I suppose that it's Texas. Isn't
that the most cowboyish state?
--
Bertel, Kolt, Danmark
Ar an seacht£ l d‚ag de m¡ M‚an F¢mhair, scr¡obh Bertel Lund Hansen:
Den 17.09.2026 kl. 08.25 skrev Aidan Kehoe:
> El Paso certainly exists. It appears in a Danish children's song.
>
> Jeg har min hest jeg har min lasso. (hest = horse)
> Jeg har min k‘r'ste i El Paso. (k‘reste = sweetheart)
But is that El Paso, Texas, or El Paso, Illinois?
I never thought about that before, but I suppose that it's Texas. Isn't that
the most cowboyish state?
I believe Wyoming or Montana would be in the running, but I await comment from
our New World posters.
Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> writes:
Ar an seacht£ l d‚ag de m¡ M‚an F¢mhair, scr¡obh Bertel Lund Hansen:
Den 17.09.2026 kl. 08.25 skrev Aidan Kehoe:
> El Paso certainly exists. It appears in a Danish children's song.
>
> Jeg har min hest jeg har min lasso. (hest = horse)
> Jeg har min k‘r'ste i El Paso. (k‘reste = sweetheart)
But is that El Paso, Texas, or El Paso, Illinois?
I never thought about that before, but I suppose that it's Texas. Isn't that
the most cowboyish state?
I believe Wyoming or Montana would be in the running, but I await comment from
our New World posters.
If you ask someone from Texas, then the answer will be Texas. If you
ask almost anyone else, the answer might be Wyoming, or Montana, or New Mexico, or Oregon, or somewhere else. Actual working cowboys are pretty
thin on the ground wherever you go.
--
On Thursday, Aidan Kehoe pointed out that ...
Ar an seacht? l? d?ag de m? M?an F?mhair, scr?obh Bertel Lund Hansen:
Den 17.09.2026 kl. 08.25 skrev Aidan Kehoe:
> El Paso certainly exists. It appears in a Danish children's song.
>
> Jeg har min hest jeg har min lasso. (hest = horse)
> Jeg har min k?r'ste i El Paso. (k?reste = sweetheart)
But is that El Paso, Texas, or El Paso, Illinois?
I never thought about that before, but I suppose that it's Texas. Isn't that
the most cowboyish state?
I believe Wyoming or Montana would be in the running, but I await comment from our New World posters.
All good suggestions, but anywhere west of the cornfields is probably a legitimate candidate.
That said, Texas, Oklahoma, and Montana are probably in the lead for Hollywood's choice.
Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, Aidan Kehoe pointed out that ...
Ar an seacht£ l d‚ag de m¡ M‚an F¢mhair, scr¡obh Bertel Lund
Hansen:
Den 17.09.2026 kl. 08.25 skrev Aidan Kehoe:
> El Paso certainly exists. It appears in a Danish children's song. >>>> >I never thought about that before, but I suppose that it's
> Jeg har min hest jeg har min lasso. (hest = horse)
> Jeg har min k‘r'ste i El Paso. (k‘reste = sweetheart)
But is that El Paso, Texas, or El Paso, Illinois?
Texas. Isn't that
the most cowboyish state?
I believe Wyoming or Montana would be in the running, but I await
comment from our New World posters.
All good suggestions, but anywhere west of the cornfields is probably
a legitimate candidate.
That said, Texas, Oklahoma, and Montana are probably in the lead for Hollywood's choice.
In terms of actual location footage, California is easily number one.
There is also a long history of actual cowboying there.
--
On Thu, 17 Sep 2026 08:13:56 +0200, Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> wrote:
Den 17.09.2026 kl. 06.28 skrev Steve Hayes:
Of course some people don't take kindly to correction, and even try to
propagate false information. I still recall when PTD tried very hard
to persuade me that El Paso, Illinois did not exist, despite my having
some relatives who were born there and some that still lived there.
El Paso certainly exists. It appears in a Danish children's song.
Jeg har min hest jeg har min lasso. (hest = horse)
Jeg har min k‘r'ste i El Paso. (k‘reste = sweetheart)
That probably refers to El Paso, Texas.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
On 17/09/26 16:13, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
Den 17.09.2026 kl. 06.28 skrev Steve Hayes:
Of course some people don't take kindly to correction, and even try to
propagate false information. I still recall when PTD tried very hard
to persuade me that El Paso, Illinois did not exist, despite my having
some relatives who were born there and some that still lived there.
El Paso certainly exists. It appears in a Danish children's song.
Jeg har min hest jeg har min lasso. (hest = horse)
Jeg har min k‘r'ste i El Paso. (k‘reste = sweetheart)
Out in the West Texas town of El Taco
I fell in love with a Mexican girl
Each night we'd meet, up in Rosa's Cantina
During one of the Middle East wars, some people started singing about
the West Texas town of Umm Qasr.
--
Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW
On Thu, 17 Sep 2026 08:06:22 GMT, athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> posted:
Of course some people don't take kindly to correction, and even try to
propagate false information. I still recall when PTD tried very hard
to persuade me that El Paso, Illinois did not exist, despite my having
some relatives who were born there and some that still lived there.
And even after Katie posted a photograph of the sign at the entrance to
the town. She is sadly missed; PTD is not.
I'll tell her, next time I see her of Facebook.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the >>referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
That was before Brexit.
In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
secure separate from England. But now Scotland would have to apply to
join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
non-member England.
Several EU countries have regions with independence movements and as
a result would have been strongly opposed to an independent Scotland automatically being a member even before Brexit - they don't want
(for example) Catalonia to think it would work.
-- Richard
On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the
referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
That was before Brexit.
In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
secure separate from England. But now Scotland would have to apply to
join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
non-member England.
and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
Several EU countries have regions with independence movements and as
a result would have been strongly opposed to an independent Scotland automatically being a member even before Brexit - they don't want
(for example) Catalonia to think it would work.
-- Richard
Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the >>>> referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
That was before Brexit.
In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
secure separate from England. But now Scotland would have to apply to
join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
non-member England.
and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
to Northern Ireland?
On 18/09/26 20:02, Silvano wrote:
Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
But now Scotland would have to apply to
join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
non-member England.
and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
to Northern Ireland?
Walking would be difficult; but if you're a good swimmer it's only 19 km.
--
Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW
Peter Moylan hat am 18.09.2026 um 12:41 geschrieben:
On 18/09/26 20:02, Silvano wrote:
Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
But now Scotland would have to apply to
join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
non-member England.
and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
to Northern Ireland?
Walking would be difficult; but if you're a good swimmer it's only 19 km.
Boats and ships start from and arrive in havens, unless they're
smuggling things. I'm thinking about wares subject to customs or
controls in order to respect the EU and UK regulations.
In article <118j28e$15oqd$1@dont-email.me>,
Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it says...
Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the >>>> referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
That was before Brexit.
In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
secure separate from England. But now Scotland would have to apply to >> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
non-member England.
and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
to Northern Ireland?
You can walk or drive onto the ferry at Cairnryan, which takes you to
Larne or Belfast.
Janet
Janet hat am 18.09.2026 um 21:00 geschrieben:
In article <118j28e$15oqd$1@dont-email.me>,
Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it says...
Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the >>>>>> referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
That was before Brexit.
In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
secure separate from England. But now Scotland would have to apply to >>>> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
non-member England.
and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
to Northern Ireland?
You can walk or drive onto the ferry at Cairnryan, which takes you to Larne or Belfast.
Of course, now, without crossing any borders. Do you think there will be
no "strange border" or a border with checks like in Dover between
Scotland and Northern Ireland, when either one leaves the Disunited
Kingdom? Can you tell us how it will work?
In article <118ka5u$1m855$1@dont-email.me>,
Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it says...
Janet hat am 18.09.2026 um 21:00 geschrieben:
In article <118j28e$15oqd$1@dont-email.me>, Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it says...
Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the >>>>>> referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
That was before Brexit.
In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's >>>> slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
secure separate from England. But now Scotland would have to apply to >>>> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
non-member England.
and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland >> to Northern Ireland?
You can walk or drive onto the ferry at Cairnryan, which takes you to Larne or Belfast.
Of course, now, without crossing any borders. Do you think there will be
no "strange border" or a border with checks like in Dover between
Scotland and Northern Ireland, when either one leaves the Disunited Kingdom? Can you tell us how it will work?
Presumably it would work the same way as Northern Ireland's
border with Eire.
I doubt the SNP will seek another Independence referendum.
Janet
On 18/09/2026 11:02, Silvano wrote:
Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the >>>>> referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
That was before Brexit.
In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
secure separate from England. But now Scotland would have to apply to >>> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
non-member England.
and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
to Northern Ireland?
perfectly good ferries.
Radey Shouman wrote:
If you ask someone from Texas, then the answer will be Texas. If you
ask almost anyone else, the answer might be Wyoming, or Montana, or New
Mexico, or Oregon, or somewhere else. Actual working cowboys are pretty
thin on the ground wherever you go.
"thin on the ground"??? What kind of 'english.usage' is dat?
wat does dat even mean??? Is dat London talk?
On 20/09/26 17:26, The Starmaker wrote:
Radey Shouman wrote:
If you ask someone from Texas, then the answer will be Texas. If you
ask almost anyone else, the answer might be Wyoming, or Montana, or New
Mexico, or Oregon, or somewhere else. Actual working cowboys are pretty >> thin on the ground wherever you go.
"thin on the ground"??? What kind of 'english.usage' is dat?
wat does dat even mean??? Is dat London talk?
Your command of English seems to be pretty poor. What is your native language? And why are you bothering to crosspost to a newsgroup where
most regulars are fluent in English?
On 20/09/26 17:26, The Starmaker wrote:
Radey Shouman wrote:
If you ask someone from Texas, then the answer will be Texas. If you
ask almost anyone else, the answer might be Wyoming, or Montana, or New
Mexico, or Oregon, or somewhere else. Actual working cowboys are pretty >> thin on the ground wherever you go.
"thin on the ground"??? What kind of 'english.usage' is dat?
wat does dat even mean??? Is dat London talk?
Your command of English seems to be pretty poor. What is your native language? And why are you bothering to crosspost to a newsgroup where
most regulars are fluent in English?
I was watching
On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 10:05:17 +1000, Peter Moylan wrote:
Your command of English seems to be pretty poor. What is your native language? And why are you bothering to crosspost to a newsgroup where
most regulars are fluent in English?
He's just trolling...
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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
The Starmaker amok-crossposted to 4 newsgroups:
Come on already, yous don't actually believe that a rock comes out of nowhere and just happens to kill only all the dinosaurs, do you? That's not even mathematically possible.
It is possible, and the math is very simple (you just have no idea what you are talking about, so you cannot actually do the math [correctly]). The kinetic energy of an object is converted on impact with another object to move or deform both objects.
I gave you a 3rd grade math problem and you couldn't figure it out.
Within the last three years...you were asleep an entire year, Right?
You couldn't do the third grade math...
s|b wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 10:05:17 +1000, Peter Moylan wrote:
Your command of English seems to be pretty poor. What is your native language? And why are you bothering to crosspost to a newsgroup where most regulars are fluent in English?
He's just trolling...
| Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,alt.usage.english,rec.arts.tv
Posting to Newsgroups ("Newsgroups" is a plural word meaning more than
one newsgroup") is
not considered trolling, it's called crossposting, stupid!
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Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae.
- Julius Caesar
Your sig is not even in English! It's wop. gunneas. bada bing, bada
boom.
sib, where's your sister? send me some pictures of her..you wanna buy
some?
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The Starmaker wrote:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
The Starmaker amok-crossposted to 4 newsgroups:
Come on already, yous don't actually believe that a rock comes out of nowhere and just happens to kill only all the dinosaurs, do you? That's not even mathematically possible.
It is possible, and the math is very simple (you just have no idea what you
are talking about, so you cannot actually do the math [correctly]). The kinetic energy of an object is converted on impact with another object to move or deform both objects.
I gave you a 3rd grade math problem and you couldn't figure it out.
Within the last three years...you were asleep an entire year, Right?
You couldn't do the third grade math...
As you can see, the person who calls himself 'PointedEars'
(atrekkefanatic) could not do
simple third grade math. He's probably one of 'those people' who can
play
any song on the piano but cannot tie his own shoelaces.
Since the average person sleeps 8 hours a day..
In one day that is one third of a day.
So that means in one year, you sleep one third of the year.
3 years equal 3 thirds.
Within the last three years...you were asleep an entire year.
Now, go learn how to tie your shoe laces..
(i don't want to ask trekkie how many years he's been adleep his whole
life, he might burn a fuse) (he'll never play the piano again)
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Say you want to start a discussion about the political ramifications of importing rare tropical fish from Brazil. People who read rec.aquaria
might have something to say. So might people who read
alt.politics.animals and talk.politics.misc.
Cross-posting is easy. It also should mean that people on other systems
who subscribe to several newsgroups will see your message only once,
rather than several times -- news-reading software can cancel out the
other copies once a person has read the message. When you get ready to
post a message , you'll be asked in which newsgroups. Type the names of
the various groups, separated by a comma, but no space, for example:
rec.aquaria,alt.politics.animals,talk.politics.misc
and hit enter. The message will be posted in the various groups (unless
one of the groups is moderated, in which case the message goes to the moderator, who decides whether to make it public).
It's considered bad form to post to an excessive number of newsgroups,
or inappropriate newsgroups. Probably, you don't really have to post something in 20 different places. And while you may think your
particular political issue is vitally important to the fate of the
world, chances are the readers of rec.arts.comics will not, or at least
not important enough to impose on them. You'll get a lot of nasty e-mail messages demanding you restrict your messages to the "appropriate" newsgroups.
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"A posting that is cross-posted (i.e. lists multiple newsgroups on the Newsgroups: header line) to a few appropriate newsgroups is fine..."
--from Google Groups
"If you do post to multiple newsgroups, don't post to each group
separately. Instead, specify all the groups on a single copy of the
message. This reduces network overhead and lets people who subscribe to
more than one group see the message once instead of having to wade
through each copy. -- from Google Groups
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
s|b wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 10:05:17 +1000, Peter Moylan wrote:
Your command of English seems to be pretty poor. What is your native
language? And why are you bothering to crosspost to a newsgroup where
most regulars are fluent in English?
He's just trolling...
| Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,alt.usage.english,rec.arts.tv
Posting to Newsgroups ("Newsgroups" is a plural word meaning more than
one newsgroup") is
not considered trolling, it's called crossposting, stupid!
On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 14:40:54 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
s|b wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 10:05:17 +1000, Peter Moylan wrote:
Your command of English seems to be pretty poor. What is your native
language? And why are you bothering to crosspost to a newsgroup where
most regulars are fluent in English?
He's just trolling...
| Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,alt.usage.english,rec.arts.tv
Posting to Newsgroups ("Newsgroups" is a plural word meaning more than
one newsgroup") is
not considered trolling, it's called crossposting, stupid!
Correct.
But posting with an attitude
of "let's you and him fight" *is*
trolling, and if that is combined with an *abuse* of crossposting,
like posting to a bunch of disparate newsgroups, in most of which the
content is off-topic, such abuse of crossposting is a recognised
symptom of trolling.
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Steve Hayes wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 14:40:54 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
s|b wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 10:05:17 +1000, Peter Moylan wrote:
Your command of English seems to be pretty poor. What is your native >> > language? And why are you bothering to crosspost to a newsgroup where >> > most regulars are fluent in English?
He's just trolling...
| Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,alt.usage.english,rec.arts.tv
Posting to Newsgroups ("Newsgroups" is a plural word meaning more than >one newsgroup") is
not considered trolling, it's called crossposting, stupid!
Correct.
But posting with an attitude
A lot of South African women cop an attitude, but you already know dat, right?
of "let's you and him fight" *is*
dats Mafia State talk, but you're from a Mafia State, S. Africa, Right?
trolling, and if that is combined with an *abuse* of crossposting,
"abuse* of crossposting,"????
People who only post to one Newsgroups are abusing Usenet, because it
reads: NEWGROUPS meaning post to more than on newsgroup.
What kind of people only post to one newsgroup, pussies? mama boys??
like posting to a bunch of disparate newsgroups, in most of which the content is off-topic, such abuse of crossposting is a recognised
symptom of trolling.
"disparate"???? dat UK talk, ...South Yorkshire, England
dis is the year 2026, not the year 1561.
How do you talk when White people ain't around?? was up man! Yo Yo Yo, i
want some of dat! look at dat fat ass bitch!
Then when White people are around you say "Hi There ol chap, Are you
having a great jolly bloody day??
(with a spoon in your mouth)
Den 22.09.2026 kl. 02.25 skrev Steve Hayes:
But posting with an attitude of "let's you and him fight" *is*
trolling, and if that is combined with an *abuse* of crossposting,
like posting to a bunch of disparate newsgroups, in most of which the content is off-topic, such abuse of crossposting is a recognised
symptom of trolling.
Do you think that arguing achieves anything - but more trolling?
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Bertel, Kolt, Danmark
Le 22/09/2026 ? 07:02, Bertel Lund Hansen a ‚crit :
Den 22.09.2026 kl. 02.25 skrev Steve Hayes:
But posting with an attitude of "let's you and him fight" *is*
trolling, and if that is combined with an *abuse* of crossposting,
like posting to a bunch of disparate newsgroups, in most of which the
content is off-topic, such abuse of crossposting is a recognised
symptom of trolling.
Do you think that arguing achieves anything - but more trolling?
Killfile. Problem sorted.
Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
Den 22.09.2026 kl. 02.25 skrev Steve Hayes:
But posting with an attitude of "let's you and him fight" *is*
trolling, and if that is combined with an *abuse* of crossposting,
like posting to a bunch of disparate newsgroups, in most of which the content is off-topic, such abuse of crossposting is a recognised
symptom of trolling.
Do you think that arguing achieves anything - but more trolling?
--
Bertel, Kolt, Danmark
How many self-appointed moderators does these unmoderated newsgroups
have????
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
Hibou wrote:
Le 22/09/2026 ? 07:02, Bertel Lund Hansen a ‚crit :
Den 22.09.2026 kl. 02.25 skrev Steve Hayes:
But posting with an attitude of "let's you and him fight" *is*
trolling, and if that is combined with an *abuse* of crossposting,
like posting to a bunch of disparate newsgroups, in most of which the
content is off-topic, such abuse of crossposting is a recognised
symptom of trolling.
Do you think that arguing achieves anything - but more trolling?
Killfile. Problem sorted.
You wake up one day and you say "Where is everybody?"
Ai will killfile you all.
How many self-appointed moderators does these unmoderated newsgroups
have????
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The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
On Tue, 22 Sep 2026 08:02:25 +0200, Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> wrote:
Den 22.09.2026 kl. 02.25 skrev Steve Hayes:
But posting with an attitude of "let's you and him fight" *is*
trolling, and if that is combined with an *abuse* of crossposting,
like posting to a bunch of disparate newsgroups, in most of which the
content is off-topic, such abuse of crossposting is a recognised
symptom of trolling.
Do you think that arguing achieves anything - but more trolling?
I was merely dealing with the English usage questions: that there is a
clear distinction between crossposting and trolling, and the OP was
mistaken in assuming that that he/she/it was the only one aware of
that distinction.
On 23/09/26 04:07, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 22/09/2026 08:18, Hibou wrote:
Le 22/09/2026 ? 07:02, Bertel Lund Hansen a ‚crit :
Den 22.09.2026 kl. 02.25 skrev Steve Hayes:
But posting with an attitude of "let's you and him fight" *is*
trolling, and if that is combined with an *abuse* of
crossposting, like posting to a bunch of disparate newsgroups,
in most of which the content is off-topic, such abuse of
crossposting is a recognised symptom of trolling.
Do you think that arguing achieves anything - but more trolling?
Killfile. Problem sorted.
I use a killfile plus another filter which removes all cross-posted messages. That works for me, but I do accept that others might see
more value in cross-posted messages.
Long ago I had a filter that counted the commas in the "Newsgroups"
header, and blocked anything cross-posted to more than three groups.
I've forgotten whether Thunderbird can do this. It depends on whether wildcards are allowed in the strings to match.
But, in fact, killfiles are less important now than they used to be,
because many old trolls are no longer around. My filters kill only eight individuals, including the recently encountered Starfighter.
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Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW
Peter Moylan wrote:
On 23/09/26 04:07, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 22/09/2026 08:18, Hibou wrote:
Le 22/09/2026 ? 07:02, Bertel Lund Hansen a ‚crit :
Den 22.09.2026 kl. 02.25 skrev Steve Hayes:
But posting with an attitude of "let's you and him fight" *is*
trolling, and if that is combined with an *abuse* of
crossposting, like posting to a bunch of disparate newsgroups,
in most of which the content is off-topic, such abuse of
crossposting is a recognised symptom of trolling.
Do you think that arguing achieves anything - but more trolling?
Killfile. Problem sorted.
I use a killfile plus another filter which removes all cross-posted messages. That works for me, but I do accept that others might see
more value in cross-posted messages.
Long ago I had a filter that counted the commas in the "Newsgroups"
header, and blocked anything cross-posted to more than three groups.
I've forgotten whether Thunderbird can do this. It depends on whether wildcards are allowed in the strings to match.
But, in fact, killfiles are less important now than they used to be, because many old trolls are no longer around. My filters kill only eight individuals, including the recently encountered Starfighter.
Learn to spel maker correctly, it's Starmaker, not Starfighter!
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Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW
What about the likes of these people list Peter Moylan who sig
(signature) contains a
spam link also known as...STEALTH MARKETING links?
Eveybody knows using "stealth marketing" links in your sig is...SPAM!!!!
YOU FUCKING SPAMMER!!!
SPAMMERS WERE THE WORST PEOPLE ON THE USENET SINCE IT'S VERY INCEPTION!
Do as I say, not as I do? You are a hypocrite, Steve!
Who can trust a fucking hypocrite spamming disquise as a normal post
when all your intention of posting is
to SELL STUFF ON USENET?
GET RID OF DAT http://www.pmoylan.org STEALTH MARKETTING LINK!
Stealth Marketing in Usenet news groups
Stealth Marketing in Usenet news groups
OK, if you are familiar with Usenet, you know that you can't blanket newsgroups with advertisements without getting in a lot of trouble.
But there is a sneaky way to:
Post thousands of advertisements.
Put those ads in front of the people most likely to buy.
Expose your ads to buyers at the exact moment when they are ready to
buy.
Establish a reputation as an expert.
Stay out of trouble.
Make friends.
Here is how you do it:
When I first started reading Usenet news, I noticed an extremely helpful
man in one of the computer newsgroups. He answered many questions, and
about 10% of the time his solution involved a computer item that he just happened to sell. So naturally, he would mention his price on the item
and his telephone number.
He was stealth marketing on Usenet!
Three years later, he is still successfully selling products in that newsgroup. But suppose you don't sell computer equipment. Suppose you
are a bookkeeper. Find a newsgroup full of bookkeeping questions that
you can answer. Answer 10 of those questions each day. Put a link to
your webpage in your sig file, so it appears at the bottom of every
answer. Make sure your sig is less than 5 lines of fewer than 72
characters, and keep the hype to a minimum. If the answer to the
question involves something that you sell, give whatever general advice
you can, then tell the original poster that you will be happy to help
them (for $) if they email or call you. Remember, keep the hype to a
minimum. You are a "trusted friend", not a barracuda. Your goal is to
answer 95% of the questions without trying to sell anything, then have
the remaining 5% of posters beg you to sell them the solution to their problem.
This accomplishes two things:
It proves that you are a helpful and informed expert on the subject,
and hence can be trusted.
It puts your website in front of the people who are most likely to
need your services, at exactly the moment when they most need them.
What is the meaning of stealth marketing?
Stealth marketing is defined as exposing consumers to advertisements
without them knowing they are being advertised to.
It is a subtle way of marketing products to influence consumers to use products and be open to future promotions.
https://www.tincher.to/stealth.htm https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=fef1c1264a2e2ea2&hl=en&sxsrf=APpeQntTtvMSZeqFCg-Xm9uEG6hVpiAyJg%3A1790132637234&q=stealth+marketing+links+in+USENET
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=stealth+marketing+unethical
FUCKING SPAMMERS!!!!! ECCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I don't want to click your link, you might be selling used panties...
How much are they? Do you take PayPal?? pink. a dozen.
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
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