• The End of Betelgeuse: Will We See Two Suns in Our Lifetime?

    From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Fri May 1 06:44:07 2026
    How cool would it be to actually see a supernova so close to us (only 640 lightyears away) and have a second sun hanging in the sky for months?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzqZ80PFbmw&t=637s



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  • From shawn@3:633/10 to All on Fri May 1 03:44:13 2026
    On Fri, 1 May 2026 06:44:07 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    How cool would it be to actually see a supernova so close to us (only 640 >lightyears away) and have a second sun hanging in the sky for months?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzqZ80PFbmw&t=637s


    Is this the big event for 2030? I watched a video about the next ten
    big events to happen in the sky and when it should happen. Ah no...
    2083 when V Sagittae is expected to go nova or more accurately when we
    will see something that happened billions of years ago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILqxtQ_Qmkw&t=274s
    The Rarest Celestial Events You'll See in Your Lifetime


    Though 2083 seems to be a bit beyond even my best expected life time.

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  • From shawn@3:633/10 to All on Fri May 1 03:47:04 2026
    On Fri, 01 May 2026 03:44:13 -0400, shawn
    <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 1 May 2026 06:44:07 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    How cool would it be to actually see a supernova so close to us (only 640 >>lightyears away) and have a second sun hanging in the sky for months?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzqZ80PFbmw&t=637s


    Is this the big event for 2030? I watched a video about the next ten
    big events to happen in the sky and when it should happen. Ah no...
    2083 when V Sagittae is expected to go nova or more accurately when we
    will see something that happened billions of years ago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILqxtQ_Qmkw&t=274s
    The Rarest Celestial Events You'll See in Your Lifetime


    Though 2083 seems to be a bit beyond even my best expected life time.

    Ah, I see your event is earlier than the one I was thinking of. Should
    have watched your video first. Just having seen my video yesterday
    that nova from V Sagittae was very much in my mind.

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Fri May 1 09:07:38 2026
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 1 May 2026 06:44:07 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    How cool would it be to actually see a supernova so close to us (only 640
    lightyears away) and have a second sun hanging in the sky for months?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzqZ80PFbmw&t=637s

    Is this the big event for 2030? I watched a video about the next ten
    big events to happen in the sky and when it should happen. Ah no...
    2083 when V Sagittae is expected to go nova or more accurately when we
    will see something that happened billions of years ago.

    Billions? The only way we'd see that one is with telescopes.

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  • From The True Melissa@3:633/10 to All on Fri May 1 07:20:36 2026
    Verily, in article <10t1i3n$17t1n$1@dont-email.me>, did atropos@mac.com deliver unto us this message:

    How cool would it be to actually see a supernova so close to us (only 640 lightyears away) and have a second sun hanging in the sky for months?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzqZ80PFbmw&t=637s

    It would be interesting to see, but it wouldn't be a second sun. It
    would be a much brighter Betelgeuse in the night sky, invisible during
    the day.

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Fri May 1 18:18:09 2026
    On May 1, 2026 at 4:20:36 AM PDT, "The True Melissa"
    <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Verily, in article <10t1i3n$17t1n$1@dont-email.me>, did atropos@mac.com deliver unto us this message:

    How cool would it be to actually see a supernova so close to us (only 640 >> lightyears away) and have a second sun hanging in the sky for months?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzqZ80PFbmw&t=637s

    It would be interesting to see, but it wouldn't be a second sun. It
    would be a much brighter Betelgeuse in the night sky, invisible during
    the day.

    No, it would be bright enough to be seen day and night. And since 'sun' is
    just an informal word for a star, Betelgeuse would qualify as a sun, even if it's far away and only lasts half a year or so.

    With an apparent magnitude of between -13 to -16, a Betelgeuse supernova would be so bright it would be slightly painful to look at for a sustained time.
    (For comparison, the noon-day sun has an apparent magnitude of -26. Venus, at its brightest, is -4 and the naked-eye limit in a dark night sky for stars is +6.5)



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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Fri May 1 18:45:54 2026
    On May 1, 2026 at 12:44:13 AM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 1 May 2026 06:44:07 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    How cool would it be to actually see a supernova so close to us (only 640
    lightyears away) and have a second sun hanging in the sky for months?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzqZ80PFbmw&t=637s

    Is this the big event for 2030? I watched a video about the next ten
    big events to happen in the sky and when it should happen. Ah no...
    2083 when V Sagittae is expected to go nova or more accurately when we
    will see something that happened billions of years ago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILqxtQ_Qmkw&t=274s
    The Rarest Celestial Events You'll See in Your Lifetime

    Though 2083 seems to be a bit beyond even my best expected life time.

    If Betelgeuse were to go nova, how many people do you think would go out to
    the desert, dress up like Luke Skywalker, and stare dramatically into the distance with the twin suns setting in the background?



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  • From shawn@3:633/10 to All on Fri May 1 16:16:19 2026
    On Fri, 1 May 2026 18:45:54 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On May 1, 2026 at 12:44:13 AM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >wrote:

    On Fri, 1 May 2026 06:44:07 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    How cool would it be to actually see a supernova so close to us (only 640 >>> lightyears away) and have a second sun hanging in the sky for months?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzqZ80PFbmw&t=637s

    Is this the big event for 2030? I watched a video about the next ten
    big events to happen in the sky and when it should happen. Ah no...
    2083 when V Sagittae is expected to go nova or more accurately when we
    will see something that happened billions of years ago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILqxtQ_Qmkw&t=274s
    The Rarest Celestial Events You'll See in Your Lifetime

    Though 2083 seems to be a bit beyond even my best expected life time.

    If Betelgeuse were to go nova, how many people do you think would go out to >the desert, dress up like Luke Skywalker, and stare dramatically into the >distance with the twin suns setting in the background?


    Especially if it happened around May 4th? More than a few hundred.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Fri May 1 20:22:55 2026
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On May 1, 2026 at 12:44:13 AM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >wrote:

    On Fri, 1 May 2026 06:44:07 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    How cool would it be to actually see a supernova so close to us (only 640 >>> lightyears away) and have a second sun hanging in the sky for months?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzqZ80PFbmw&t=637s

    Is this the big event for 2030? I watched a video about the next ten
    big events to happen in the sky and when it should happen. Ah no...
    2083 when V Sagittae is expected to go nova or more accurately when we
    will see something that happened billions of years ago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILqxtQ_Qmkw&t=274s
    The Rarest Celestial Events You'll See in Your Lifetime

    Though 2083 seems to be a bit beyond even my best expected life time.

    If Betelgeuse were to go nova, how many people do you think would go out to >the desert, dress up like Luke Skywalker, and stare dramatically into the >distance with the twin suns setting in the background?

    If the Chicago Symphony Orchestra were playing John Williams' score,
    nearly everybody.

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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/10 to All on Fri May 1 16:33:30 2026
    no_email@invalid.invalid wrote:
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    How cool would it be to actually see a supernova so close to us (only
    640 lightyears away) and have a second sun hanging in the sky for
    months?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzqZ80PFbmw&t=637s

    Is this the big event for 2030? I watched a video about the next ten
    big events to happen in the sky and when it should happen. Ah no...
    2083 when V Sagittae is expected to go nova or more accurately when we
    will see something that happened billions of years ago.

    Billions? The only way we'd see that one is with telescopes.

    No, I think we'll be able to see that with the naked eye too, but there
    is a chance it'll throw a Gamma ray Burst our way. because we're looking
    at its pole.

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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/10 to All on Fri May 1 16:34:47 2026
    In article <10t1i3n$17t1n$1@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:

    How cool would it be to actually see a supernova so close to us (only
    640 lightyears away) and have a second sun hanging in the sky for
    months?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzqZ80PFbmw&t=637s

    It won't be as bright as the Sun.

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    love this country.


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  • From The True Melissa@3:633/10 to All on Sat May 2 10:22:54 2026
    Verily, in article <10t2qp1$1js9r$2@dont-email.me>, did atropos@mac.com deliver unto us this message:

    On May 1, 2026 at 4:20:36 AM PDT, "The True Melissa" <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    It would be interesting to see, but it wouldn't be a second sun. It
    would be a much brighter Betelgeuse in the night sky, invisible during
    the day.

    No, it would be bright enough to be seen day and night. And since 'sun' is just an informal word for a star, Betelgeuse would qualify as a sun, even if it's far away and only lasts half a year or so.

    With an apparent magnitude of between -13 to -16, a Betelgeuse supernova would
    be so bright it would be slightly painful to look at for a sustained time. (For comparison, the noon-day sun has an apparent magnitude of -26. Venus, at its brightest, is -4 and the naked-eye limit in a dark night sky for stars is +6.5)

    We are seeing different estimates. According to what I read, it wouldn't
    be quite as bright as the moon.

    I guess we'll find out, if it happened and is reaching us.

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