• Cesar Chavez cancelled

    From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Thu Mar 19 12:31:44 2026
    Cesar Chavez has a bizarre legacy in labor organizing of California farm workers, talking publicly about Gandhi-style nonviolence in response to pressure and illegal reactions for owners, while behind the scenes using sabotage and property destruction, and later violence, in response.

    In later years, as Chavez was losing control, he wanted to be seen as
    the sole voice advocating for civil rights among Mexican farm workers
    and did not tolerate anyone else, whom he saw as rivals and not alliesr.
    He attempted to rule rule his movement with an iron fist, trusting no
    one, without democracy.

    At one point, he tried to force his followers to join one of
    California's more insane religious cults, Synanon.

    When his contract power was declining, he began to see illigal alien farmworkers as undercutting the higher wages he fought for and urged
    mass deportations, which led to violence. They formed a patrol to catch
    aliens, who were robbed trying to force them back to Mexico.

    He was "marketed" during his lifetime as a revered figure and civil
    rights icon and was often invited to speak on college campuses.

    None of the controversies well known during his lifetime were enough to
    change the way he was remembered, especially violence against illegal
    aliens, I vaguely recall that there were murders to remain at the top
    but without reading a biography of him, I'm not spotting it on line.

    What has gotten him cancelled? An investigative piece in the New York
    Times was published March 17, 2026, detailing a lifetime of abuse
    against girls and women. He had sex with girls as young as 13, coerced
    young women into sex, had unacknowledged children with any number of
    them. The cancellations, even by what remains of United Farm Workers
    which still promoted his legacy three decades after he died, began a day
    or so before it became known that the article was going to be published.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/18/us/cesar-chavez-sexual-abuse-allegations-ufw.html

    https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/civil-rights/2026/03/18/546433/cesar-chavez-march-houston-canceled-sexual-assault-allegations/

    https://apnews.com/article/cesar-chavez-allegations-fallout-c3b33d7d6bd2f97e80ab2ae8c3b731cf

    Obama had declared Cesar Chavez Day in 2014, an annual federal
    commemoration on March 31 of his birth in 1927. It's an official
    commemoration in several states plus either a public holiday or optional holiday in several states and localities. There are typically parades in
    his honor.

    It's just amazing that he wasn't cancelled for inspiring violence and intimidation, completely hypocritical for proclaiming a nonviolent
    movement.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.13
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Thu Mar 19 18:01:23 2026
    On Mar 19, 2026 at 5:31:44 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Cesar Chavez has a bizarre legacy in labor organizing of California farm workers, talking publicly about Gandhi-style nonviolence in response to pressure and illegal reactions for owners, while behind the scenes using sabotage and property destruction, and later violence, in response.

    In later years, as Chavez was losing control, he wanted to be seen as
    the sole voice advocating for civil rights among Mexican farm workers
    and did not tolerate anyone else, whom he saw as rivals and not alliesr.
    He attempted to rule rule his movement with an iron fist, trusting no
    one, without democracy.

    At one point, he tried to force his followers to join one of
    California's more insane religious cults, Synanon.

    When his contract power was declining, he began to see illigal alien farmworkers as undercutting the higher wages he fought for and urged
    mass deportations, which led to violence. They formed a patrol to catch aliens, who were robbed trying to force them back to Mexico.

    He was "marketed" during his lifetime as a revered figure and civil
    rights icon and was often invited to speak on college campuses.

    None of the controversies well known during his lifetime were enough to change the way he was remembered, especially violence against illegal
    aliens, I vaguely recall that there were murders to remain at the top
    but without reading a biography of him, I'm not spotting it on line.

    What has gotten him cancelled? An investigative piece in the New York
    Times was published March 17, 2026, detailing a lifetime of abuse
    against girls and women. He had sex with girls as young as 13, coerced
    young women into sex, had unacknowledged children with any number of
    them. The cancellations, even by what remains of United Farm Workers
    which still promoted his legacy three decades after he died, began a day
    or so before it became known that the article was going to be published.

    Obama had declared Cesar Chavez Day in 2014, an annual federal
    commemoration on March 31 of his birth in 1927. It's an official commemoration in several states plus either a public holiday or optional holiday in several states and localities. There are typically parades in
    his honor.

    It's just amazing that he wasn't cancelled for inspiring violence and intimidation, completely hypocritical for proclaiming a nonviolent
    movement.

    This just makes me laugh hysterically at all the wokesters that fought such a battle in Austin to rename 1st Street to Cesar Chavez Boulevard. There were thousands of business along that street that had to change everything from their stationary to their phone book listings to their billboards and advertising, along with having to update themselves in professional and regulatory databases. The cost of renaming that street to the affected businesses was estimated to be in the tens of millions, and this was back in the 80s when that was still a lot of money.

    But nothing could stop the woke and now they're stuck with a street named
    after a pedophile rapist.

    <chef's kiss>



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.13
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From moviePig@3:633/10 to All on Thu Mar 19 14:20:19 2026
    On 3/19/2026 2:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Mar 19, 2026 at 5:31:44 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Cesar Chavez has a bizarre legacy in labor organizing of California farm
    workers, talking publicly about Gandhi-style nonviolence in response to
    pressure and illegal reactions for owners, while behind the scenes using
    sabotage and property destruction, and later violence, in response.

    In later years, as Chavez was losing control, he wanted to be seen as
    the sole voice advocating for civil rights among Mexican farm workers
    and did not tolerate anyone else, whom he saw as rivals and not alliesr.
    He attempted to rule rule his movement with an iron fist, trusting no
    one, without democracy.

    At one point, he tried to force his followers to join one of
    California's more insane religious cults, Synanon.

    When his contract power was declining, he began to see illigal alien
    farmworkers as undercutting the higher wages he fought for and urged
    mass deportations, which led to violence. They formed a patrol to catch
    aliens, who were robbed trying to force them back to Mexico.

    He was "marketed" during his lifetime as a revered figure and civil
    rights icon and was often invited to speak on college campuses.

    None of the controversies well known during his lifetime were enough to
    change the way he was remembered, especially violence against illegal
    aliens, I vaguely recall that there were murders to remain at the top
    but without reading a biography of him, I'm not spotting it on line.

    What has gotten him cancelled? An investigative piece in the New York
    Times was published March 17, 2026, detailing a lifetime of abuse
    against girls and women. He had sex with girls as young as 13, coerced
    young women into sex, had unacknowledged children with any number of
    them. The cancellations, even by what remains of United Farm Workers
    which still promoted his legacy three decades after he died, began a day
    or so before it became known that the article was going to be published.

    Obama had declared Cesar Chavez Day in 2014, an annual federal
    commemoration on March 31 of his birth in 1927. It's an official
    commemoration in several states plus either a public holiday or optional
    holiday in several states and localities. There are typically parades in
    his honor.

    It's just amazing that he wasn't cancelled for inspiring violence and
    intimidation, completely hypocritical for proclaiming a nonviolent
    movement.

    This just makes me laugh hysterically at all the wokesters that fought such a battle in Austin to rename 1st Street to Cesar Chavez Boulevard. There were thousands of business along that street that had to change everything from their stationary to their phone book listings to their billboards and advertising, along with having to update themselves in professional and regulatory databases. The cost of renaming that street to the affected businesses was estimated to be in the tens of millions, and this was back in the 80s when that was still a lot of money.

    But nothing could stop the woke and now they're stuck with a street named after a pedophile rapist.

    <chef's kiss>

    Why is that gratifying? Is there an "I-told-you-so" in it somewhere?



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.13
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Ian J. Ball@3:633/10 to All on Thu Mar 19 11:30:43 2026
    On 3/19/26 11:01 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On Mar 19, 2026 at 5:31:44 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Cesar Chavez has a bizarre legacy in labor organizing of California farm
    workers, talking publicly about Gandhi-style nonviolence in response to
    pressure and illegal reactions for owners, while behind the scenes using
    sabotage and property destruction, and later violence, in response.

    In later years, as Chavez was losing control, he wanted to be seen as
    the sole voice advocating for civil rights among Mexican farm workers
    and did not tolerate anyone else, whom he saw as rivals and not alliesr.
    He attempted to rule rule his movement with an iron fist, trusting no
    one, without democracy.

    At one point, he tried to force his followers to join one of
    California's more insane religious cults, Synanon.

    When his contract power was declining, he began to see illigal alien
    farmworkers as undercutting the higher wages he fought for and urged
    mass deportations, which led to violence. They formed a patrol to catch
    aliens, who were robbed trying to force them back to Mexico.

    He was "marketed" during his lifetime as a revered figure and civil
    rights icon and was often invited to speak on college campuses.

    None of the controversies well known during his lifetime were enough to
    change the way he was remembered, especially violence against illegal
    aliens, I vaguely recall that there were murders to remain at the top
    but without reading a biography of him, I'm not spotting it on line.

    What has gotten him cancelled? An investigative piece in the New York
    Times was published March 17, 2026, detailing a lifetime of abuse
    against girls and women. He had sex with girls as young as 13, coerced
    young women into sex, had unacknowledged children with any number of
    them. The cancellations, even by what remains of United Farm Workers
    which still promoted his legacy three decades after he died, began a day
    or so before it became known that the article was going to be published.

    Obama had declared Cesar Chavez Day in 2014, an annual federal
    commemoration on March 31 of his birth in 1927. It's an official
    commemoration in several states plus either a public holiday or optional
    holiday in several states and localities. There are typically parades in
    his honor.

    It's just amazing that he wasn't cancelled for inspiring violence and
    intimidation, completely hypocritical for proclaiming a nonviolent
    movement.

    This just makes me laugh hysterically at all the wokesters that fought such a battle in Austin to rename 1st Street to Cesar Chavez Boulevard. There were thousands of business along that street that had to change everything from their stationary to their phone book listings to their billboards and advertising, along with having to update themselves in professional and regulatory databases. The cost of renaming that street to the affected businesses was estimated to be in the tens of millions, and this was back in the 80s when that was still a lot of money.

    But nothing could stop the woke and now they're stuck with a street named after a pedophile rapist.

    <chef's kiss>

    I find it more interesting that the wokesters can't stand to have any long-lasting "heroes" of their own.

    Once they build one up, then they will do a 180 and do everything they
    can to tear them down again. It's pretty much right out of "1984".

    I'm betting MLK will be the next to get this treatment.





    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.13
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From moviePig@3:633/10 to All on Thu Mar 19 14:58:34 2026
    On 3/19/2026 2:30 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 3/19/26 11:01 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On Mar 19, 2026 at 5:31:44 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
    wrote:

    Cesar Chavez has a bizarre legacy in labor organizing of California farm >>> workers, talking publicly about Gandhi-style nonviolence in response to
    pressure and illegal reactions for owners, while behind the scenes using >>> sabotage and property destruction, and later violence, in response.

    In later years, as Chavez was losing control, he wanted to be seen as
    the sole voice advocating for civil rights among Mexican farm workers
    and did not tolerate anyone else, whom he saw as rivals and not alliesr. >>> He attempted to rule rule his movement with an iron fist, trusting no
    one, without democracy.

    At one point, he tried to force his followers to join one of
    California's more insane religious cults, Synanon.

    When his contract power was declining, he began to see illigal alien
    farmworkers as undercutting the higher wages he fought for and urged
    mass deportations, which led to violence. They formed a patrol to catch
    aliens, who were robbed trying to force them back to Mexico.

    He was "marketed" during his lifetime as a revered figure and civil
    rights icon and was often invited to speak on college campuses.

    None of the controversies well known during his lifetime were enough to
    change the way he was remembered, especially violence against illegal
    aliens, I vaguely recall that there were murders to remain at the top
    but without reading a biography of him, I'm not spotting it on line.

    What has gotten him cancelled? An investigative piece in the New York
    Times was published March 17, 2026, detailing a lifetime of abuse
    against girls and women. He had sex with girls as young as 13, coerced
    young women into sex, had unacknowledged children with any number of
    them. The cancellations, even by what remains of United Farm Workers
    which still promoted his legacy three decades after he died, began a day >>> or so before it became known that the article was going to be published. >>>
    Obama had declared Cesar Chavez Day in 2014, an annual federal
    commemoration on March 31 of his birth in 1927. It's an official
    commemoration in several states plus either a public holiday or optional >>> holiday in several states and localities. There are typically parades in >>> his honor.

    It's just amazing that he wasn't cancelled for inspiring violence and
    intimidation, completely hypocritical for proclaiming a nonviolent
    movement.

    This just makes me laugh hysterically at all the wokesters that fought
    such a
    battle in Austin to rename 1st Street to Cesar Chavez Boulevard. There
    were
    thousands of business along that street that had to change everything
    from
    their stationary to their phone book listings to their billboards and
    advertising, along with having to update themselves in professional and
    regulatory databases. The cost of renaming that street to the affected
    businesses was estimated to be in the tens of millions, and this was
    back in
    the 80s when that was still a lot of money.

    But nothing could stop the woke and now they're stuck with a street named
    after a pedophile rapist.

    <chef's kiss>

    I find it more interesting that the wokesters can't stand to have any long-lasting "heroes" of their own.

    Once they build one up, then they will do a 180 and do everything they
    can to tear them down again. It's pretty much right out of "1984".

    I'm betting MLK will be the next to get this treatment.

    Been done. Didn't take.



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.13
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/10 to All on Thu Mar 19 17:39:34 2026
    In article <10phdlj$tvsm$1@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:

    But nothing could stop the woke and now they're stuck with a street
    named after a pedophile rapist.

    <chef's kiss>

    He was also a racist.

    --
    Democrats and the liberal media hate President Trump more than they
    love this country.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.13
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/10 to All on Thu Mar 19 17:41:41 2026
    movieopig wrote:
    On 3/19/2026 2:30 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 3/19/26 11:01 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    But nothing could stop the woke and now they're stuck with a street named >>> after a pedophile rapist.

    <chef's kiss>

    I find it more interesting that the wokesters can't stand to have any
    long-lasting "heroes" of their own.

    Once they build one up, then they will do a 180 and do everything they
    can to tear them down again. It's pretty much right out of "1984".

    I'm betting MLK will be the next to get this treatment.

    Been done. Didn't take.

    No, it hasn't been done yet.

    --
    Democrats and the liberal media hate President Trump more than they
    love this country.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.13
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Thu Mar 19 18:01:23 2026
    On Mar 19, 2026 at 5:31:44 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
    wrote:

    Cesar Chavez has a bizarre legacy in labor organizing of California
    farm
    workers, talking publicly about Gandhi-style nonviolence in response
    to
    pressure and illegal reactions for owners, while behind the scenes
    using
    sabotage and property destruction, and later violence, in response.

    In later years, as Chavez was losing control, he wanted to be seen as
    the sole voice advocating for civil rights among Mexican farm workers
    and did not tolerate anyone else, whom he saw as rivals and not
    alliesr.
    He attempted to rule rule his movement with an iron fist, trusting no
    one, without democracy.

    At one point, he tried to force his followers to join one of
    California's more insane religious cults, Synanon.

    When his contract power was declining, he began to see illigal alien farmworkers as undercutting the higher wages he fought for and urged
    mass deportations, which led to violence. They formed a patrol to
    catch
    aliens, who were robbed trying to force them back to Mexico.

    He was "marketed" during his lifetime as a revered figure and civil
    rights icon and was often invited to speak on college campuses.

    None of the controversies well known during his lifetime were enough
    to
    change the way he was remembered, especially violence against illegal
    aliens, I vaguely recall that there were murders to remain at the top
    but without reading a biography of him, I'm not spotting it on line.

    What has gotten him cancelled? An investigative piece in the New York
    Times was published March 17, 2026, detailing a lifetime of abuse
    against girls and women. He had sex with girls as young as 13,
    coerced
    young women into sex, had unacknowledged children with any number of
    them. The cancellations, even by what remains of United Farm Workers
    which still promoted his legacy three decades after he died, began a
    day
    or so before it became known that the article was going to be
    published.

    Obama had declared Cesar Chavez Day in 2014, an annual federal
    commemoration on March 31 of his birth in 1927. It's an official commemoration in several states plus either a public holiday or
    optional
    holiday in several states and localities. There are typically parades
    in
    his honor.

    It's just amazing that he wasn't cancelled for inspiring violence and intimidation, completely hypocritical for proclaiming a nonviolent
    movement.

    This just makes me laugh hysterically at all the wokesters that fought
    such a
    battle in Austin to rename 1st Street to Cesar Chavez Boulevard. There
    were
    thousands of business along that street that had to change everything
    from
    their stationary to their phone book listings to their billboards and advertising, along with having to update themselves in professional and regulatory databases. The cost of renaming that street to the affected businesses was estimated to be in the tens of millions, and this was
    back in
    the 80s when that was still a lot of money.

    But nothing could stop the woke and now they're stuck with a street
    named
    after a pedophile rapist.

    <chef's kiss>




    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.13
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From moviePig@3:633/10 to All on Thu Mar 19 14:20:19 2026
    On 3/19/2026 2:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Mar 19, 2026 at 5:31:44 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman""
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Cesar Chavez has a bizarre legacy in labor organizing of California
    farm
    workers, talking publicly about Gandhi-style nonviolence in response
    to
    pressure and illegal reactions for owners, while behind the scenes
    using
    sabotage and property destruction, and later violence, in response.

    In later years, as Chavez was losing control, he wanted to be seen
    as
    the sole voice advocating for civil rights among Mexican farm
    workers
    and did not tolerate anyone else, whom he saw as rivals and not
    alliesr.
    He attempted to rule rule his movement with an iron fist, trusting
    no
    one, without democracy.

    At one point, he tried to force his followers to join one of
    California's more insane religious cults, Synanon.

    When his contract power was declining, he began to see illigal alien
    farmworkers as undercutting the higher wages he fought for and urged
    mass deportations, which led to violence. They formed a patrol to
    catch
    aliens, who were robbed trying to force them back to Mexico.

    He was "marketed" during his lifetime as a revered figure and civil
    rights icon and was often invited to speak on college campuses.

    None of the controversies well known during his lifetime were enough
    to
    change the way he was remembered, especially violence against
    illegal
    aliens, I vaguely recall that there were murders to remain at the
    top
    but without reading a biography of him, I'm not spotting it on line.

    What has gotten him cancelled? An investigative piece in the New
    York
    Times was published March 17, 2026, detailing a lifetime of abuse
    against girls and women. He had sex with girls as young as 13,
    coerced
    young women into sex, had unacknowledged children with any number of
    them. The cancellations, even by what remains of United Farm Workers
    which still promoted his legacy three decades after he died, began a
    day
    or so before it became known that the article was going to be
    published.

    Obama had declared Cesar Chavez Day in 2014, an annual federal
    commemoration on March 31 of his birth in 1927. It's an official
    commemoration in several states plus either a public holiday or
    optional
    holiday in several states and localities. There are typically
    parades in
    his honor.

    It's just amazing that he wasn't cancelled for inspiring violence
    and
    intimidation, completely hypocritical for proclaiming a nonviolent
    movement.

    This just makes me laugh hysterically at all the wokesters that
    fought such a
    battle in Austin to rename 1st Street to Cesar Chavez Boulevard.
    There were
    thousands of business along that street that had to change everything
    from
    their stationary to their phone book listings to their billboards and advertising, along with having to update themselves in professional
    and
    regulatory databases. The cost of renaming that street to the
    affected
    businesses was estimated to be in the tens of millions, and this was
    back in
    the 80s when that was still a lot of money.

    But nothing could stop the woke and now they're stuck with a street
    named
    after a pedophile rapist.

    <chef's kiss>

    Why is that gratifying? Is there an "I-told-you-so" in it somewhere?




    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.13
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Ian J. Ball@3:633/10 to All on Thu Mar 19 11:30:43 2026
    On 3/19/26 11:01 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On Mar 19, 2026 at 5:31:44 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman""
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Cesar Chavez has a bizarre legacy in labor organizing of California
    farm
    workers, talking publicly about Gandhi-style nonviolence in response
    to
    pressure and illegal reactions for owners, while behind the scenes
    using
    sabotage and property destruction, and later violence, in response.

    In later years, as Chavez was losing control, he wanted to be seen
    as
    the sole voice advocating for civil rights among Mexican farm
    workers
    and did not tolerate anyone else, whom he saw as rivals and not
    alliesr.
    He attempted to rule rule his movement with an iron fist, trusting
    no
    one, without democracy.

    At one point, he tried to force his followers to join one of
    California's more insane religious cults, Synanon.

    When his contract power was declining, he began to see illigal alien
    farmworkers as undercutting the higher wages he fought for and urged
    mass deportations, which led to violence. They formed a patrol to
    catch
    aliens, who were robbed trying to force them back to Mexico.

    He was "marketed" during his lifetime as a revered figure and civil
    rights icon and was often invited to speak on college campuses.

    None of the controversies well known during his lifetime were enough
    to
    change the way he was remembered, especially violence against
    illegal
    aliens, I vaguely recall that there were murders to remain at the
    top
    but without reading a biography of him, I'm not spotting it on line.

    What has gotten him cancelled? An investigative piece in the New
    York
    Times was published March 17, 2026, detailing a lifetime of abuse
    against girls and women. He had sex with girls as young as 13,
    coerced
    young women into sex, had unacknowledged children with any number of
    them. The cancellations, even by what remains of United Farm Workers
    which still promoted his legacy three decades after he died, began a
    day
    or so before it became known that the article was going to be
    published.

    Obama had declared Cesar Chavez Day in 2014, an annual federal
    commemoration on March 31 of his birth in 1927. It's an official
    commemoration in several states plus either a public holiday or
    optional
    holiday in several states and localities. There are typically
    parades in
    his honor.

    It's just amazing that he wasn't cancelled for inspiring violence
    and
    intimidation, completely hypocritical for proclaiming a nonviolent
    movement.

    This just makes me laugh hysterically at all the wokesters that
    fought such a
    battle in Austin to rename 1st Street to Cesar Chavez Boulevard.
    There were
    thousands of business along that street that had to change everything
    from
    their stationary to their phone book listings to their billboards and advertising, along with having to update themselves in professional
    and
    regulatory databases. The cost of renaming that street to the
    affected
    businesses was estimated to be in the tens of millions, and this was
    back in
    the 80s when that was still a lot of money.

    But nothing could stop the woke and now they're stuck with a street
    named
    after a pedophile rapist.

    <chef's kiss>

    I find it more interesting that the wokesters can't stand to have any long-lasting "heroes" of their own.

    Once they build one up, then they will do a 180 and do everything they
    can to tear them down again. It's pretty much right out of "1984".

    I'm betting MLK will be the next to get this treatment.






    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.13
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From moviePig@3:633/10 to All on Thu Mar 19 14:58:34 2026
    On 3/19/2026 2:30 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 3/19/26 11:01 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On Mar 19, 2026 at 5:31:44 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman""
    <ahk@chinet.com>
    wrote:

    Cesar Chavez has a bizarre legacy in labor organizing of California
    farm
    workers, talking publicly about Gandhi-style nonviolence in
    response to
    pressure and illegal reactions for owners, while behind the scenes
    using
    sabotage and property destruction, and later violence, in response.

    In later years, as Chavez was losing control, he wanted to be seen
    as
    the sole voice advocating for civil rights among Mexican farm
    workers
    and did not tolerate anyone else, whom he saw as rivals and not
    alliesr.
    He attempted to rule rule his movement with an iron fist, trusting
    no
    one, without democracy.

    At one point, he tried to force his followers to join one of
    California's more insane religious cults, Synanon.

    When his contract power was declining, he began to see illigal
    alien
    farmworkers as undercutting the higher wages he fought for and
    urged
    mass deportations, which led to violence. They formed a patrol to
    catch
    aliens, who were robbed trying to force them back to Mexico.

    He was "marketed" during his lifetime as a revered figure and civil
    rights icon and was often invited to speak on college campuses.

    None of the controversies well known during his lifetime were
    enough to
    change the way he was remembered, especially violence against
    illegal
    aliens, I vaguely recall that there were murders to remain at the
    top
    but without reading a biography of him, I'm not spotting it on
    line.

    What has gotten him cancelled? An investigative piece in the New
    York
    Times was published March 17, 2026, detailing a lifetime of abuse
    against girls and women. He had sex with girls as young as 13,
    coerced
    young women into sex, had unacknowledged children with any number
    of
    them. The cancellations, even by what remains of United Farm
    Workers
    which still promoted his legacy three decades after he died, began
    a day
    or so before it became known that the article was going to be
    published.

    Obama had declared Cesar Chavez Day in 2014, an annual federal
    commemoration on March 31 of his birth in 1927. It's an official
    commemoration in several states plus either a public holiday or
    optional
    holiday in several states and localities. There are typically
    parades in
    his honor.

    It's just amazing that he wasn't cancelled for inspiring violence
    and
    intimidation, completely hypocritical for proclaiming a nonviolent
    movement.

    This just makes me laugh hysterically at all the wokesters that
    fought
    such a
    battle in Austin to rename 1st Street to Cesar Chavez Boulevard.
    There
    were
    thousands of business along that street that had to change
    everything
    from
    their stationary to their phone book listings to their billboards
    and
    advertising, along with having to update themselves in professional
    and
    regulatory databases. The cost of renaming that street to the
    affected
    businesses was estimated to be in the tens of millions, and this was

    back in
    the 80s when that was still a lot of money.

    But nothing could stop the woke and now they're stuck with a street
    named
    after a pedophile rapist.

    <chef's kiss>

    I find it more interesting that the wokesters can't stand to have any

    long-lasting "heroes" of their own.

    Once they build one up, then they will do a 180 and do everything
    they
    can to tear them down again. It's pretty much right out of "1984".

    I'm betting MLK will be the next to get this treatment.

    Been done. Didn't take.




    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.13
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)