• Virginia Democrats Enter Their State in the Race to the Bottom

    From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jan 26 05:46:55 2026
    Here's what they've been up to in just the last few weeks:

    Ban future attempts to clean up voter rolls (HB111)

    Prohibit state agencies distributing federal dollars to NGOs to investigate whether they're engaged in fraud (HB1369)

    Prohibits the hand-counting of ballots (HB968)

    Allow mail-in ballots to be counted one week after election day (HB773)

    Allow for absentee ballots to be received and counted for three days after election day (HB82)

    Gerrymanders the state with a 10-1 or 9-2 Democrat Congressional map (HJ4)

    Creates a state-level equivalent of the VRA (HB967)

    Eliminates the requirement that large last-minute campaign contributions have to be publicly reported at least 24 hours before election day (HB1348)

    Removes the State Board of Elections' ability to dispatch law enforcement officers to collect vote tallies from a locality that refuses to publish them (HB1321)

    Joins the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact for allocating Virginia's electoral college votes in presidential elections (HB965)

    Automatic restoration of voting rights for the mentally handicapped and felons after they're released from prison (HB964, HB963, & HB1014)

    Allows for votes to be cast "electronically through the internet" (HB493)

    Public funding of political campaigns at the local level (HB162)

    Abolishes all mandatory minimum sentencing for rape, manslaughter, assaulting
    a law enforcement officer, possession and distribution of child pornography, and all repeat violent felonies (HB863)

    Makes it harder for judges to deny bail, even in the case of things like aggravated assault, armed robbery, and drug trafficking (HB357)

    Gives convicted murderers, rapists, and terrorists a chance to get out of prison early (HB853)

    Drastically reduces the criminal penalty for robbery (HB244)

    Bars prosecutors from mentioning a criminal's prior convictions during the guilt phase of a trial, even if it's for the same crime (HB1070)

    Reduces the amount of time that the Commonwealth can compel a convicted criminal to pay court fees from 60 years to 10 (SB180)

    Taxpayer funding for transgender surgeries (HB1245)

    Legalizes racial discrimination against white people by banning most discretionary state contracting under $100K from going to businesses owned by white men and allows state agencies to award contracts to female- or minority-owned firms that are 5% more expensive than a bid from a business owned by a white man (HB61)

    Punishes the Virginia Military Institute for adopting an anti-DEI stance (HB1374 & HB22)

    Abolishes all Confederate-themed license plates, including those already
    issued (HB1344)

    Eliminates the tax-exempt status for all Confederate history groups (HB167)

    Renames Columbus Day to "Indigenous Peoples Day" (HB858)

    Makes it illegal to approach within 8 feet of anyone while within 40 feet of
    an abortion clinic (SB137)

    Enshrines a leftist narrative about January 6 and requires it to be taught in public schools (HB333)

    Allows localities to adopt rent control measures (HB1177)

    Increases the sales tax in Northern Virginia, adds an additional sales tax for home deliveries, raises the car tax for electric vehicles, and imposes new sales taxes for streaming services, concerts, gym memberships, nail salons, barber shops, tanning beds, tatoo parlors, dry cleaners, shoe repairs, carpentry, painting, plumbing, electrical, HVAC, landscaping, and housekeeping work for homes, swimming pool maintenance, travel agencies, and shipping services (SB730, HB1179, HB900 & HB978)

    Creates a new tourism tax on event entrance fees (HB550)

    Raises the hotel tax in Arlington (HB524)

    Imposes a new 7.75% tax on incomes over $1 Million (HB1074)

    Creates two new tax brackets, one over $600K at 8% and another over $1 Million at 10% (HB979)

    Imposes a 3.8% investment tax on top of state income taxes (HB378)

    Allows every locality to raise the state sales tax by 1% (HB334 & SB66)

    Raises the sales tax for Stafford County (HB1000)

    Rounds up all state and local taxes by the nearest 5-cent increment (HB954)

    Allows localities to outlaw gas-powered leaf blowers (HB881)

    Imposes a new personal property tax on electric-powered lawn equipment
    (HB557)

    Limits the ability to use self-driving or autonomous vehicles (HB1124)

    Allows state and local government to implement traffic and speed cameras (HB1330 & HB994)

    Puts speed cameras on state highways (HB1220)

    Requires a license to buy a firearm (HB1359)

    "Assault weapons" ban (HB217)

    Strips gun rights from anyone convicted of a misdemeanor "hate crime"
    (HB1015)

    Makes it illegal to shoot a firearm on lot sizes less than 5 acres (HB926)

    Expands "gun-free zones" (HB626)

    Shrinks concealed-carry reciprocity with other states (HB24)

    Holds firearm manufacturers liable for gun deaths (HB21 & SB27)

    Imposes an 11% sales tax on all firearms and ammunition (HB1094)

    Imposes a $500 sales tax on firearm suppressors (HB207)

    Drastically raises the physical requirements to operate a firearms store (HB907)

    Makes it harder to obtain a concealed carry permit (HB916)

    Creates a new taxpayer-funded state propaganda center for the sole purpose of promoting gun control (HB969)

    Targets ICE by banning the use of facial coverings by law enforcement officers even though states have no jurisdiction or authority to mandate dress codes
    for federal employees (HB7)

    Makes ICE agents liable for civil lawsuits filed by illegal aliens (HB1314)

    Prohibits ICE from arresting illegal aliens outside of courthouses even though states have no jurisdiction or authority to dictate where federal agents may and may not enforce federal law (HB1265)

    Establishes a state propaganda commission to publicize the supposed negative impacts of ICE raids in Virginia (HB1264)

    Creates a state-mandated playbook for how schools must respond to ICE showing up on their campus and bans school employees from assisting ICE (HB1260)

    Unionizes government employees and gives them collective bargaining rights (HB1263)

    Unlimited taxpayer-funded home purchases for government employees (HB164)

    Preferential hiring in State government for federal employees laid off by DOGE (HB494)

    Defers property taxes for federal employees during shutdowns (HB915)

    Hikes Minimum Wage to $15/Hour (HB1)

    Mandates "mental health screenings" for all public school students between 6th and 12th grade (HB355)

    Drastically curtails home school and private school independence from the Virginia Department of Education (HB359)

    Raises the salaries of school board chairs and vice-chairs (HB382)

    Free public school education for illegal aliens (HB912)

    Allows out-of-state Indian tribe members to receive in-state tuition (HB287)

    Lets students graduate high school despite failing grades (SB147)

    Eliminates nearly all academic benchmarks for college students to continue receiving financial aid (SB167)

    Introduces a Somali daycare fraud pilot program (HB259)

    Expands the eminent domain powers of the Virginia Passenger Rail Authority (HB446)

    More than triples financial penalties from the Department of Environmental Quality to comply with environmental regulations (HB1350)

    Mandates all localities adopt an "environmental justice plan" (HB256)

    Allocates $100 million in taxpayer funding for the production of "sustainable aviation fuel" (HB1230)

    Eliminates the ability of a health insurance provider to charge a premium for smokers (HB220)

    Adds a new insurance mandate to cover over-the-counter condoms (HB1182)

    Mandates "unconscious racial bias" trainings for nurses to retain their
    license (SB22)



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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jan 26 13:05:14 2026
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Here's what they've been up to in just the last few weeks:

    Ban future attempts to clean up voter rolls (HB111)

    By not doing what? Simply not voting on a regular basis is not evidence
    that someone moved. You know whose voters weren't voting on a regular
    basis? Trump's.

    Prohibit state agencies distributing federal dollars to NGOs to investigate >whether they're engaged in fraud (HB1369)

    That sounds moronic.

    Prohibits the hand-counting of ballots (HB968)

    There is no reason ever to hand count all ballots unless specific
    ballots were damaged. That simply introduces more errors.

    Allow mail-in ballots to be counted one week after election day (HB773)

    How many times do I need to point this out? This is mainly for Americans overseas, the largest numbers who are active duty military and their
    families. It takes a long time for their ballots to get transferred back
    to the United States.

    In my state, we allow two weeks.

    Allow for absentee ballots to be received and counted for three days after >election day (HB82)

    Received how? My state effectively got rid of absentee voting by
    allowing anyone to vote by mail. There shouldn't be different rules. We
    do allow ballots to be dropped at drop boxes, but certainly not after
    election day.

    Gerrymanders the state with a 10-1 or 9-2 Democrat Congressional map (HJ4)

    What did Trump think would happen? Seriously?

    Creates a state-level equivalent of the VRA (HB967)

    I hav no idea what that stands for.

    Eliminates the requirement that large last-minute campaign contributions have >to be publicly reported at least 24 hours before election day (HB1348)

    That encourages bribery. Nevertheless, with Citizens United, the Roberts
    court allows all this spending that's unreported throughout the campaign
    season as lobbying expenditures that sure look like campaign ads. The
    public has no idea who contributedl

    Removes the State Board of Elections' ability to dispatch law enforcement >officers to collect vote tallies from a locality that refuses to publish them >(HB1321)

    Um, what?

    Joins the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact for allocating Virginia's >electoral college votes in presidential elections (HB965)

    I don't favor this. I'd rather Electors are won in proportion to the
    state-wide vote. But America has had winner-take-all/win-by-plurality
    since the early 19th century.

    Automatic restoration of voting rights for the mentally handicapped and felons >after they're released from prison (HB964, HB963, & HB1014)

    Why exactly would you oppose this? If someone has completed his
    sentence, then all rights of citizenship should be restored.

    This doesn't sound like you.

    Allows for votes to be cast "electronically through the internet" (HB493)

    Fraud!

    I'll agree with the rest without comment.

    Eliminates the tax-exempt status for all Confederate history groups (HB167)

    This aligns with the federal tax code, somewhat. Schools must adcertise
    a nondiscriminatory policy. These groups deliberately misrepresent
    history.

    Renames Columbus Day to "Indigenous Peoples Day" (HB858)

    What, 4 of the 8 "civilized tribes" were themselves slaveholders. Let's publicize the actual truth in American history,

    Makes it illegal to approach within 8 feet of anyone while within 40 feet of >an abortion clinic (SB137)

    Not again. Federal courts have struck this down. You have to stay off
    the property and cannot block the entrance, otherwise you can shout at
    women on the public sidewalk.

    Increases the sales tax in Northern Virginia, adds an additional sales tax for >home deliveries, raises the car tax for electric vehicles,

    How do you oppose this? They don't pay for roads.

    and imposes new
    sales taxes for streaming services, concerts, gym memberships, nail salons, >barber shops, tanning beds, tatoo parlors, dry cleaners, shoe repairs, >carpentry, painting, plumbing, electrical, HVAC, landscaping, and housekeeping >work for homes, swimming pool maintenance, travel agencies, and shipping >services (SB730, HB1179, HB900 & HB978)

    Creates a new tourism tax on event entrance fees (HB550)

    Just like Trump did at national parks

    Allows localities to outlaw gas-powered leaf blowers (HB881)

    You personally despise leaf blowers, although the electric ones are
    every bit as noisy

    Limits the ability to use self-driving or autonomous vehicles (HB1124)

    There should be no autonomous vehicles.

    Makes ICE agents liable for civil lawsuits filed by illegal aliens (HB1314)

    That's discrimination by nationality.

    Free public school education for illegal aliens (HB912)

    Uh, what? Under compulsory education laws, their school-age children
    already receive free public education. This goes back to Supreme Court
    rulings in the 19th century, I think.

    Introduces a Somali daycare fraud pilot program (HB259)

    Snarf

    Allocates $100 million in taxpayer funding for the production of "sustainable >aviation fuel" (HB1230)

    This is a really really long extension cord.

    Mandates "unconscious racial bias" trainings for nurses to retain their >license (SB22)

    Then they should be able to receive this training whilst unconscious.

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jan 26 19:30:40 2026
    On Jan 26, 2026 at 5:05:14 AM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Here's what they've been up to in just the last few weeks:

    Prohibit state agencies distributing federal dollars to NGOs to investigate >> whether they're engaged in fraud (HB1369)

    That sounds moronic.

    It's like they're putting up a giant neon sign that says "Virginia Is Open For Fraud! Come On In!"

    Go ahead and defraud us. Won't even try to stop you.

    Removes the State Board of Elections' ability to dispatch law enforcement
    officers to collect vote tallies from a locality that refuses to publish them
    (HB1321)

    Um, what?

    Apparently is some county is trying rig an election and run a coverup, they don't want pesky cops getting in the way.

    Joins the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact for allocating Virginia's >> electoral college votes in presidential elections (HB965)

    I don't favor this. I'd rather Electors are won in proportion to the state-wide vote. But America has had winner-take-all/win-by-plurality
    since the early 19th century.

    I don't like it because it's an end-run around the Constitution, but one
    that's admittedly is perfectly legal.

    Automatic restoration of voting rights for the mentally handicapped and
    felons
    after they're released from prison (HB964, HB963, & HB1014)

    Why exactly would you oppose this? If someone has completed his
    sentence, then all rights of citizenship should be restored.

    This doesn't sound like you.

    Hey, if they can take my 2nd Amendment guaranteed gun rights away from me
    based on conviction for *any* crime, then I don't have a problem with a rapist being told one of the consequences for his actions is no longer being able to vote.

    And if someone's mentally impaired, they shouldn't be deciding how the country is run any more than a person with no legs should be playing in the NFL.

    Makes it illegal to approach within 8 feet of anyone while within 40 feet of >> an abortion clinic (SB137)

    Not again. Federal courts have struck this down. You have to stay off
    the property and cannot block the entrance, otherwise you can shout at
    women on the public sidewalk.

    But if you're dressed up like Elisabeth Moss in the HANDMAID'S TALE, none of these laws apply.

    Creates a new tourism tax on event entrance fees (HB550)

    Just like Trump did at national parks

    I just found out that my Yosemite specialty license plate gets me a 50% discount on my admission to Yosemite.

    Allows localities to outlaw gas-powered leaf blowers (HB881)

    You personally despise leaf blowers

    Yes, but not because of 'climate change'. If they wanted to outlaw them altogether because all they do is push your mess onto someone else's property for them to deal with, then yes. But I don't agree with outlawing them as a prayer to the Climate Cult.

    Limits the ability to use self-driving or autonomous vehicles (HB1124)

    There should be no autonomous vehicles.

    How about a government kill-switch for your car mandated by federal law?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvhNQ8cVJSk

    Have I mentioned how much I love the fact that my classic 4Runner has none of this Orwellian crap in it? I wonder how long will it be before the government decides we don't "need" older vehicles and outlaws anything more than, say, 15 years old?



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  • From super70s@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jan 26 14:19:43 2026
    On 2026-01-26 19:30:40 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 26, 2026 at 5:05:14 AM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Here's what they've been up to in just the last few weeks:

    Prohibit state agencies distributing federal dollars to NGOs to investigate >>> whether they're engaged in fraud (HB1369)

    That sounds moronic.

    It's like they're putting up a giant neon sign that says "Virginia Is Open For
    Fraud! Come On In!"

    Go ahead and defraud us. Won't even try to stop you.

    Things are getting tough all over for attempted federal (read: Trump)
    election interference in state elections aren't they.

    Removes the State Board of Elections' ability to dispatch law enforcement >>> officers to collect vote tallies from a locality that refuses to publish them
    (HB1321)

    Um, what?

    Apparently is some county is trying rig an election and run a coverup, they don't want pesky cops getting in the way.

    Joins the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact for allocating Virginia's
    electoral college votes in presidential elections (HB965)

    I don't favor this. I'd rather Electors are won in proportion to the
    state-wide vote. But America has had winner-take-all/win-by-plurality
    since the early 19th century.

    I don't like it because it's an end-run around the Constitution, but one that's admittedly is perfectly legal.

    Automatic restoration of voting rights for the mentally handicapped and
    felons
    after they're released from prison (HB964, HB963, & HB1014)

    Why exactly would you oppose this? If someone has completed his
    sentence, then all rights of citizenship should be restored.

    This doesn't sound like you.

    Hey, if they can take my 2nd Amendment guaranteed gun rights away from me based on conviction for *any* crime, then I don't have a problem with a rapist
    being told one of the consequences for his actions is no longer being able to vote.

    And if someone's mentally impaired, they shouldn't be deciding how the country
    is run any more than a person with no legs should be playing in the NFL.

    Makes it illegal to approach within 8 feet of anyone while within 40 feet of
    an abortion clinic (SB137)

    Not again. Federal courts have struck this down. You have to stay off
    the property and cannot block the entrance, otherwise you can shout at
    women on the public sidewalk.

    But if you're dressed up like Elisabeth Moss in the HANDMAID'S TALE, none of these laws apply.

    Creates a new tourism tax on event entrance fees (HB550)

    Just like Trump did at national parks

    I just found out that my Yosemite specialty license plate gets me a 50% discount on my admission to Yosemite.

    Allows localities to outlaw gas-powered leaf blowers (HB881)

    You personally despise leaf blowers

    Yes, but not because of 'climate change'. If they wanted to outlaw them altogether because all they do is push your mess onto someone else's property for them to deal with, then yes. But I don't agree with outlawing them as a prayer to the Climate Cult.

    Limits the ability to use self-driving or autonomous vehicles (HB1124)

    There should be no autonomous vehicles.

    How about a government kill-switch for your car mandated by federal law?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvhNQ8cVJSk

    Have I mentioned how much I love the fact that my classic 4Runner has none of this Orwellian crap in it? I wonder how long will it be before the government decides we don't "need" older vehicles and outlaws anything more than, say, 15
    years old?



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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jan 26 22:13:32 2026
    On Jan 26, 2026 at 12:19:43 PM PST, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-01-26 19:30:40 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 26, 2026 at 5:05:14 AM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
    wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Here's what they've been up to in just the last few weeks:

    Prohibit state agencies distributing federal dollars to NGOs to investigate
    whether they're engaged in fraud (HB1369)

    That sounds moronic.

    It's like they're putting up a giant neon sign that says "Virginia Is Open >> For
    Fraud! Come On In!"

    Go ahead and defraud us. Won't even try to stop you.

    Things are getting tough all over for attempted federal (read: Trump) election interference in state elections aren't they.

    If you mean some states are now literally passing laws to facilitate
    defrauding the taxpayer just so they can claim to "own Trump", then yeah, you're right.

    It's not exactly the flex you think it is, though.



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  • From super70s@3:633/10 to All on Tue Jan 27 12:48:54 2026
    On 2026-01-26 22:13:32 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 26, 2026 at 12:19:43 PM PST, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-01-26 19:30:40 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 26, 2026 at 5:05:14 AM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
    wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Here's what they've been up to in just the last few weeks:

    Prohibit state agencies distributing federal dollars to NGOs to investigate
    whether they're engaged in fraud (HB1369)

    That sounds moronic.

    It's like they're putting up a giant neon sign that says "Virginia Is Open >>> For
    Fraud! Come On In!"

    Go ahead and defraud us. Won't even try to stop you.

    Things are getting tough all over for attempted federal (read: Trump)
    election interference in state elections aren't they.

    If you mean some states are now literally passing laws to facilitate defrauding the taxpayer

    Pffft. We've never seen the taxpayer defrauded more before or after
    until The Lie-Atollah arrived on the scene.

    just so they can claim to "own Trump", then yeah,
    you're right.

    It's not exactly the flex you think it is, though.

    Trump never does anything gratuitous or unethical to "own" the other
    side does he.

    You're such a cute little cultist.


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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Tue Jan 27 20:14:35 2026
    On Jan 27, 2026 at 10:48:54 AM PST, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-01-26 22:13:32 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 26, 2026 at 12:19:43 PM PST, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> >> wrote:

    On 2026-01-26 19:30:40 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 26, 2026 at 5:05:14 AM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> >>>> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Here's what they've been up to in just the last few weeks:

    Prohibit state agencies distributing federal dollars to NGOs to investigate
    whether they're engaged in fraud (HB1369)

    That sounds moronic.

    It's like they're putting up a giant neon sign that says "Virginia Is Open
    For Fraud! Come On In!"

    Go ahead and defraud us. Won't even try to stop you.

    Things are getting tough all over for attempted federal (read: Trump)
    election interference in state elections aren't they.

    If you mean some states are now literally passing laws to facilitate
    defrauding the taxpayer

    Pffft. We've never seen the taxpayer defrauded more before or after
    until The Lie-Atollah arrived on the scene.

    Sure we have. Tim Walz only allowed $5-8 billion taxpayer dollars fly out the door (some of which-- who knows how much?-- ended up in the coffers of al-Shabaab), but Gavin Newsom makes Tampon Tim look like a rank amateur. Emperor Hair-Gel's current total for taxpayer dollars bilked is hovering
    around $72 billion. Less than $10 billion destroyed Waltz's career. Imagine what closing in on $100 billion will do to Gavvy.

    I have a feeling Trump is waiting until Gavvy's presidential run to get underway before dropping the indictments.

    You're such a cute little cultist.

    You're defending Virginia literally outlawing any investigation into taxpayer fraud and you have the balls to call me a cultist?

    Wow. Someone needs to do some serious self-reflection here and it ain't me.



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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/10 to All on Tue Jan 27 17:49:17 2026
    In article <10l7oqa$2h4h7$1@dont-email.me>, ahk@chinet.com wrote:


    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Here's what they've been up to in just the last few weeks:

    Ban future attempts to clean up voter rolls (HB111)

    By not doing what? Simply not voting on a regular basis is not evidence
    that someone moved. You know whose voters weren't voting on a regular
    basis? Trump's.

    Prohibit state agencies distributing federal dollars to NGOs to investigate >>whether they're engaged in fraud (HB1369)

    That sounds moronic.

    Prohibits the hand-counting of ballots (HB968)

    There is no reason ever to hand count all ballots unless specific
    ballots were damaged. That simply introduces more errors.

    Allow mail-in ballots to be counted one week after election day (HB773)

    How many times do I need to point this out? This is mainly for Americans >overseas, the largest numbers who are active duty military and their >families. It takes a long time for their ballots to get transferred back
    to the United States.

    In my state, we allow two weeks.

    Allow for absentee ballots to be received and counted for three days after >>election day (HB82)

    Received how? My state effectively got rid of absentee voting by
    allowing anyone to vote by mail. There shouldn't be different rules. We
    do allow ballots to be dropped at drop boxes, but certainly not after >election day.

    Gerrymanders the state with a 10-1 or 9-2 Democrat Congressional map (HJ4)

    What did Trump think would happen? Seriously?

    Creates a state-level equivalent of the VRA (HB967)

    I hav no idea what that stands for.

    Eliminates the requirement that large last-minute campaign contributions have >>to be publicly reported at least 24 hours before election day (HB1348)

    That encourages bribery. Nevertheless, with Citizens United, the Roberts >court allows all this spending that's unreported throughout the campaign >season as lobbying expenditures that sure look like campaign ads. The
    public has no idea who contributedl

    Removes the State Board of Elections' ability to dispatch law enforcement >>officers to collect vote tallies from a locality that refuses to publish them >>(HB1321)

    Um, what?

    Joins the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact for allocating Virginia's >>electoral college votes in presidential elections (HB965)

    I don't favor this. I'd rather Electors are won in proportion to the >state-wide vote. But America has had winner-take-all/win-by-plurality
    since the early 19th century.

    Automatic restoration of voting rights for the mentally handicapped and felons
    after they're released from prison (HB964, HB963, & HB1014)

    Why exactly would you oppose this? If someone has completed his
    sentence, then all rights of citizenship should be restored.

    This doesn't sound like you.

    Allows for votes to be cast "electronically through the internet" (HB493)

    Fraud!

    I'll agree with the rest without comment.

    Eliminates the tax-exempt status for all Confederate history groups (HB167)

    This aligns with the federal tax code, somewhat. Schools must adcertise
    a nondiscriminatory policy. These groups deliberately misrepresent
    history.

    Renames Columbus Day to "Indigenous Peoples Day" (HB858)

    What, 4 of the 8 "civilized tribes" were themselves slaveholders. Let's >publicize the actual truth in American history,

    Makes it illegal to approach within 8 feet of anyone while within 40 feet of >>an abortion clinic (SB137)

    Not again. Federal courts have struck this down. You have to stay off
    the property and cannot block the entrance, otherwise you can shout at
    women on the public sidewalk.

    Increases the sales tax in Northern Virginia, adds an additional sales tax for
    home deliveries, raises the car tax for electric vehicles,

    How do you oppose this? They don't pay for roads.

    and imposes new
    sales taxes for streaming services, concerts, gym memberships, nail salons, >>barber shops, tanning beds, tatoo parlors, dry cleaners, shoe repairs, >>carpentry, painting, plumbing, electrical, HVAC, landscaping, and housekeeping
    work for homes, swimming pool maintenance, travel agencies, and shipping >>services (SB730, HB1179, HB900 & HB978)

    Creates a new tourism tax on event entrance fees (HB550)

    Just like Trump did at national parks

    Allows localities to outlaw gas-powered leaf blowers (HB881)

    You personally despise leaf blowers, although the electric ones are
    every bit as noisy

    Limits the ability to use self-driving or autonomous vehicles (HB1124)

    There should be no autonomous vehicles.

    Makes ICE agents liable for civil lawsuits filed by illegal aliens (HB1314)

    That's discrimination by nationality.

    Free public school education for illegal aliens (HB912)

    Uh, what? Under compulsory education laws, their school-age children
    already receive free public education. This goes back to Supreme Court >rulings in the 19th century, I think.

    Introduces a Somali daycare fraud pilot program (HB259)

    Snarf

    Allocates $100 million in taxpayer funding for the production of "sustainable >>aviation fuel" (HB1230)

    This is a really really long extension cord.

    Mandates "unconscious racial bias" trainings for nurses to retain their >>license (SB22)

    Then they should be able to receive this training whilst unconscious.



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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/10 to All on Tue Jan 27 17:52:51 2026
    super70s@super70s.invalid wrote:
    On 2026-01-26 19:30:40 +0000, BTR1701 said:
    "Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> trolled:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Here's what they've been up to in just the last few weeks:

    Prohibit state agencies distributing federal dollars to NGOs to
    investigate whether they're engaged in fraud (HB1369)

    That sounds moronic.

    It's like they're putting up a giant neon sign that says "Virginia Is
    Open For Fraud! Come On In!"

    Go ahead and defraud us. Won't even try to stop you.

    Things are getting tough all over for attempted federal (read: Trump) >election interference in state elections aren't they.



    TROLL-O-METER

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  • From super70s@3:633/10 to All on Tue Jan 27 17:42:46 2026
    On 2026-01-27 20:14:35 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 27, 2026 at 10:48:54 AM PST, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-01-26 22:13:32 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 26, 2026 at 12:19:43 PM PST, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> >>> wrote:

    On 2026-01-26 19:30:40 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 26, 2026 at 5:05:14 AM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> >>>>> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Here's what they've been up to in just the last few weeks:

    Prohibit state agencies distributing federal dollars to NGOs to investigate
    whether they're engaged in fraud (HB1369)

    That sounds moronic.

    It's like they're putting up a giant neon sign that says "Virginia Is Open
    For Fraud! Come On In!"

    Go ahead and defraud us. Won't even try to stop you.

    Things are getting tough all over for attempted federal (read: Trump)
    election interference in state elections aren't they.

    If you mean some states are now literally passing laws to facilitate
    defrauding the taxpayer

    Pffft. We've never seen the taxpayer defrauded more before or after
    until The Lie-Atollah arrived on the scene.

    Sure we have. Tim Walz only allowed $5-8 billion taxpayer dollars fly out the door (some of which-- who knows how much?-- ended up in the coffers of al-Shabaab),

    Walz only appoints the commissioners, they and their employees were responsible for their agencies' day-to-day performance.

    but Gavin Newsom makes Tampon Tim look like a rank amateur.
    Emperor Hair-Gel's current total for taxpayer dollars bilked is hovering around $72 billion. Less than $10 billion destroyed Waltz's career. Imagine what closing in on $100 billion will do to Gavvy.

    Try again pal, this is pure unmitigated BS originating from Leading
    Report, a rightwing fake news site and Twitter account. The State
    Auditor's "high-risk" list does not cite billions in current losses,
    it's a report to flag programs for added oversight before potential
    fraud occurs. Newsom's administration has prosecuted fraud and
    recovered $5.9 billion in unemployment fraud alone.

    I have a feeling Trump is waiting until Gavvy's presidential run to get underway before dropping the indictments.

    Why of course, this is all about "fraud-boating" a potential contender
    against Cabbage Patch Vance in 2028 (or Trump himself if he declares
    himself dictator perpetuo).

    He's also tried the same shit with Jerome Powell, Lisa Cook, Adam
    Schiff, Eric Swalwell and Letitia James.

    BTW Trump and his companies were ordered to pay $354.8 million for
    financial fraud in 2024, after previously being indicted for
    fraudulently concealing hush-money payments made as part of a scheme to manipulate the 2016 US presidential election.

    You're such a cute little cultist.

    You're defending Virginia literally outlawing any investigation into taxpayer fraud and you have the balls to call me a cultist?

    Wow. Someone needs to do some serious self-reflection here and it ain't me.

    Carrot Caligula's Big Ugly Bill has allocated over $170 billion over
    four years for his ICEstapo force, which is unpopular with 70-80% of
    Americans depending on which recent poll you use.


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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Wed Jan 28 00:57:18 2026
    On Jan 27, 2026 at 3:42:46 PM PST, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-01-27 20:14:35 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 27, 2026 at 10:48:54 AM PST, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> >> wrote:

    On 2026-01-26 22:13:32 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 26, 2026 at 12:19:43 PM PST, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 2026-01-26 19:30:40 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 26, 2026 at 5:05:14 AM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> >>>>>> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Here's what they've been up to in just the last few weeks:

    Prohibit state agencies distributing federal dollars to NGOs to investigate
    whether they're engaged in fraud (HB1369)

    That sounds moronic.

    It's like they're putting up a giant neon sign that says "Virginia Is Open
    For Fraud! Come On In!"

    Go ahead and defraud us. Won't even try to stop you.

    Things are getting tough all over for attempted federal (read: Trump) >>>>> election interference in state elections aren't they.

    If you mean some states are now literally passing laws to facilitate
    defrauding the taxpayer

    Pffft. We've never seen the taxpayer defrauded more before or after
    until The Lie-Atollah arrived on the scene.

    Sure we have. Tim Walz only allowed $5-8 billion taxpayer dollars fly out >> the
    door (some of which-- who knows how much?-- ended up in the coffers of
    al-Shabaab),

    Walz only appoints the commissioners, they and their employees were responsible for their agencies' day-to-day performance.

    He can also fire them if they're incompetent or corrupt. Which he didn't. Because he was terrified of offending the Somalians and losing their votes.

    This fraud was brought to the attention of his office years ago, during the reign of Joe "Grandpa Badfinger" Biden, and it was so blatant and corrupt that even Biden's DOJ couldn't spin it away for a fellow Democrat and were forced
    to launch the federal probe into it. (Something the legacy corporate media never bothers to point out when they're claiming the DOJ fraud prosecutions in Minnesota are just Trump playing politics.)

    but Gavin Newsom makes Tampon Tim look like a rank amateur.
    Emperor Hair-Gel's current total for taxpayer dollars bilked is hovering
    around $72 billion. Less than $10 billion destroyed Waltz's career. Imagine >> what closing in on $100 billion will do to Gavvy.

    Try again pal, this is pure unmitigated BS originating from Leading
    Report, a rightwing fake news site and Twitter account. The State
    Auditor's "high-risk" list does not cite billions in current losses

    $24 billion in homeless money-- disappeared. Even Gavin publicly admitted they have no idea who it was given to or where and on what it was spent.

    $18 billion spent on a high speed rail train that after 17 years of 'construction' has not even one *inch* of track laid down.

    $31 billion in COVID money that flew out the door to prisoners, grifters, and international organized crime. Again, Gavin himself has admitted that the intended recipients (Californians out-of-work due to lockdowns) never received it while guys like Scott Peterson, the infamous family annihilator on death row, got checks for tens of thousands of dollars.

    That's $72 billion and it's just scratching the surface of the corruption in California under Newsom.

    it's a report to flag programs for added oversight before potential
    fraud occurs. Newsom's administration has prosecuted fraud and
    recovered $5.9 billion in unemployment fraud alone.

    I have a feeling Trump is waiting until Gavvy's presidential run to get
    underway before dropping the indictments.

    Why of course, this is all about "fraud-boating" a potential contender against Cabbage Patch Vance in 2028 (or Trump himself if he declares
    himself dictator perpetuo).

    He's also tried the same shit with Jerome Powell, Lisa Cook, Adam
    Schiff, Eric Swalwell

    Swalwell? Remind me again why he's not in prison for employing a Chinese spy
    in his congressional office while sitting on national security committees, and then bedding her down to boot? I wonder if he gets a Christmas card every year from Fang Fang in Beijing, where she fled before the FBI could arrest her?

    and Letitia James.

    Yeah, stick up for that corruptocrat. You've already shown that you think cheerleading for grifters is some kind of flex, so why am I not surprised?

    BTW Trump and his companies were ordered to pay $354.8 million for
    financial fraud in 2024, after previously being indicted for
    fraudulently concealing hush-money payments made as part of a scheme to manipulate the 2016 US presidential election.

    So signing an NDA to keep information from voters (and influence their votes) is now a crime?

    Well, good news, then! We don't have to wait for Newsom's presidential run to put him behind bars because he has required over 2000 workers on the new Capitol Annex project in Sacramento to sign NDAs forbidding them from disclosing the financial cost of the project to taxpayers and his administration refuses all media and FOIA requests for that information. It's somewhere north of a billion and a half, but that was five years ago, so who knows how much it's ballooned to by now and how many Friends of Gavin have pocketed dump-truck loads full of tax money.

    You're such a cute little cultist.

    You're defending Virginia literally outlawing any investigation into
    taxpayer
    fraud and you have the balls to call me a cultist?

    Wow. Someone needs to do some serious self-reflection here and it ain't me.

    Carrot Caligula's Big Ugly Bill has allocated over $170 billion over
    four years for his ICEstapo force, which is unpopular with 70-80% of Americans depending on which recent poll you use.

    Yep. And that ain't fraud. If paying for government programs that poll bad was fraud, there'd be a lot more Democrats in prison than Republicans.



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  • From super70s@3:633/10 to All on Wed Jan 28 15:19:35 2026
    On 2026-01-28 00:57:18 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 27, 2026 at 3:42:46 PM PST, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-01-27 20:14:35 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 27, 2026 at 10:48:54 AM PST, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> >>> wrote:

    On 2026-01-26 22:13:32 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 26, 2026 at 12:19:43 PM PST, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 2026-01-26 19:30:40 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 26, 2026 at 5:05:14 AM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> >>>>>>> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Here's what they've been up to in just the last few weeks:

    Prohibit state agencies distributing federal dollars to NGOs to investigate
    whether they're engaged in fraud (HB1369)

    That sounds moronic.

    It's like they're putting up a giant neon sign that says "Virginia Is Open
    For Fraud! Come On In!"

    Go ahead and defraud us. Won't even try to stop you.

    Things are getting tough all over for attempted federal (read: Trump) >>>>>> election interference in state elections aren't they.

    If you mean some states are now literally passing laws to facilitate >>>>> defrauding the taxpayer

    Pffft. We've never seen the taxpayer defrauded more before or after
    until The Lie-Atollah arrived on the scene.

    Sure we have. Tim Walz only allowed $5-8 billion taxpayer dollars fly out >>> the
    door (some of which-- who knows how much?-- ended up in the coffers of
    al-Shabaab),

    Walz only appoints the commissioners, they and their employees were
    responsible for their agencies' day-to-day performance.

    He can also fire them if they're incompetent or corrupt. Which he didn't. Because he was terrified of offending the Somalians and losing their votes.

    This fraud was brought to the attention of his office years ago, during the reign of Joe "Grandpa Badfinger" Biden, and it was so blatant and corrupt that
    even Biden's DOJ couldn't spin it away for a fellow Democrat and were forced to launch the federal probe into it. (Something the legacy corporate media never bothers to point out when they're claiming the DOJ fraud prosecutions in
    Minnesota are just Trump playing politics.)

    but Gavin Newsom makes Tampon Tim look like a rank amateur.
    Emperor Hair-Gel's current total for taxpayer dollars bilked is hovering >>> around $72 billion. Less than $10 billion destroyed Waltz's career. Imagine >>> what closing in on $100 billion will do to Gavvy.

    Try again pal, this is pure unmitigated BS originating from Leading
    Report, a rightwing fake news site and Twitter account. The State
    Auditor's "high-risk" list does not cite billions in current losses

    $24 billion in homeless money-- disappeared. Even Gavin publicly admitted they
    have no idea who it was given to or where and on what it was spent.

    $18 billion spent on a high speed rail train that after 17 years of 'construction' has not even one *inch* of track laid down.

    $31 billion in COVID money that flew out the door to prisoners, grifters, and international organized crime. Again, Gavin himself has admitted that the intended recipients (Californians out-of-work due to lockdowns) never received
    it while guys like Scott Peterson, the infamous family annihilator on death row, got checks for tens of thousands of dollars.

    That's $72 billion and it's just scratching the surface of the corruption in California under Newsom.

    it's a report to flag programs for added oversight before potential
    fraud occurs. Newsom's administration has prosecuted fraud and
    recovered $5.9 billion in unemployment fraud alone.

    I have a feeling Trump is waiting until Gavvy's presidential run to get
    underway before dropping the indictments.

    Why of course, this is all about "fraud-boating" a potential contender
    against Cabbage Patch Vance in 2028 (or Trump himself if he declares
    himself dictator perpetuo).

    He's also tried the same shit with Jerome Powell, Lisa Cook, Adam
    Schiff, Eric Swalwell

    Swalwell? Remind me again why he's not in prison for employing a Chinese spy in his congressional office while sitting on national security committees, and
    then bedding her down to boot? I wonder if he gets a Christmas card every year
    from Fang Fang in Beijing, where she fled before the FBI could arrest her?

    and Letitia James.

    Yeah, stick up for that corruptocrat. You've already shown that you think cheerleading for grifters is some kind of flex, so why am I not surprised?

    BTW Trump and his companies were ordered to pay $354.8 million for
    financial fraud in 2024, after previously being indicted for
    fraudulently concealing hush-money payments made as part of a scheme to
    manipulate the 2016 US presidential election.

    So signing an NDA to keep information from voters (and influence their votes) is now a crime?

    Well, good news, then! We don't have to wait for Newsom's presidential run to put him behind bars because he has required over 2000 workers on the new Capitol Annex project in Sacramento to sign NDAs forbidding them from disclosing the financial cost of the project to taxpayers and his administration refuses all media and FOIA requests for that information. It's somewhere north of a billion and a half, but that was five years ago, so who knows how much it's ballooned to by now and how many Friends of Gavin have pocketed dump-truck loads full of tax money.

    You're such a cute little cultist.

    You're defending Virginia literally outlawing any investigation into
    taxpayer
    fraud and you have the balls to call me a cultist?

    Wow. Someone needs to do some serious self-reflection here and it ain't me. >>
    Carrot Caligula's Big Ugly Bill has allocated over $170 billion over
    four years for his ICEstapo force, which is unpopular with 70-80% of
    Americans depending on which recent poll you use.

    Yep. And that ain't fraud. If paying for government programs that poll bad was
    fraud, there'd be a lot more Democrats in prison than Republicans.

    All your dubious (and verbose) claims about your political enemies are
    moot anyway when it comes to Virginia, "the bedroom state of D.C."

    Voters there are FURIOUS at Republicans after the Trump/Musk/DOGE massacre.

    So I'm afraid you boyz can forget about that state for the foreseeable
    future even if Trump himself was hand-counting the votes (of course
    that's when the actual fraud you're harping on would occur).


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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Wed Jan 28 21:49:36 2026
    On Jan 28, 2026 at 1:19:35 PM PST, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-01-28 00:57:18 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 27, 2026 at 3:42:46 PM PST, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> >> wrote:

    On 2026-01-27 20:14:35 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 27, 2026 at 10:48:54 AM PST, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 2026-01-26 22:13:32 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 26, 2026 at 12:19:43 PM PST, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 2026-01-26 19:30:40 +0000, BTR1701 said:

    On Jan 26, 2026 at 5:05:14 AM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
    wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Here's what they've been up to in just the last few weeks: >>>>>>>>>
    Prohibit state agencies distributing federal dollars to NGOs to investigate
    whether they're engaged in fraud (HB1369)

    That sounds moronic.

    It's like they're putting up a giant neon sign that says "Virginia Is Open
    For Fraud! Come On In!"

    Go ahead and defraud us. Won't even try to stop you.

    Things are getting tough all over for attempted federal (read: Trump) >>>>>>> election interference in state elections aren't they.

    If you mean some states are now literally passing laws to facilitate >>>>>> defrauding the taxpayer

    Pffft. We've never seen the taxpayer defrauded more before or after >>>>> until The Lie-Atollah arrived on the scene.

    Sure we have. Tim Walz only allowed $5-8 billion taxpayer dollars fly out >>>> the door (some of which-- who knows how much?-- ended up in the coffers of
    al-Shabaab),

    Walz only appoints the commissioners, they and their employees were
    responsible for their agencies' day-to-day performance.

    He can also fire them if they're incompetent or corrupt. Which he didn't. >> Because he was terrified of offending the Somalians and losing their votes. >>
    This fraud was brought to the attention of his office years ago, during the >> reign of Joe "Grandpa Badfinger" Biden, and it was so blatant and corrupt >> that
    even Biden's DOJ couldn't spin it away for a fellow Democrat and were forced
    to launch the federal probe into it. (Something the legacy corporate media >> never bothers to point out when they're claiming the DOJ fraud prosecutions >> in
    Minnesota are just Trump playing politics.)

    but Gavin Newsom makes Tampon Tim look like a rank amateur.
    Emperor Hair-Gel's current total for taxpayer dollars bilked is hovering >>>> around $72 billion. Less than $10 billion destroyed Waltz's career. Imagine
    what closing in on $100 billion will do to Gavvy.

    Try again pal, this is pure unmitigated BS originating from Leading
    Report, a rightwing fake news site and Twitter account. The State
    Auditor's "high-risk" list does not cite billions in current losses

    $24 billion in homeless money-- disappeared. Even Gavin publicly admitted >> they
    have no idea who it was given to or where and on what it was spent.

    $18 billion spent on a high speed rail train that after 17 years of
    'construction' has not even one *inch* of track laid down.

    $31 billion in COVID money that flew out the door to prisoners, grifters, >> and
    international organized crime. Again, Gavin himself has admitted that the >> intended recipients (Californians out-of-work due to lockdowns) never
    received
    it while guys like Scott Peterson, the infamous family annihilator on death >> row, got checks for tens of thousands of dollars.

    That's $72 billion and it's just scratching the surface of the corruption in
    California under Newsom.

    it's a report to flag programs for added oversight before potential
    fraud occurs. Newsom's administration has prosecuted fraud and
    recovered $5.9 billion in unemployment fraud alone.

    I have a feeling Trump is waiting until Gavvy's presidential run to get >>>> underway before dropping the indictments.

    Why of course, this is all about "fraud-boating" a potential contender
    against Cabbage Patch Vance in 2028 (or Trump himself if he declares
    himself dictator perpetuo).

    He's also tried the same shit with Jerome Powell, Lisa Cook, Adam
    Schiff, Eric Swalwell

    Swalwell? Remind me again why he's not in prison for employing a Chinese spy
    in his congressional office while sitting on national security committees, >> and
    then bedding her down to boot? I wonder if he gets a Christmas card every >> year
    from Fang Fang in Beijing, where she fled before the FBI could arrest her? >>
    and Letitia James.

    Yeah, stick up for that corruptocrat. You've already shown that you think >> cheerleading for grifters is some kind of flex, so why am I not surprised? >>
    BTW Trump and his companies were ordered to pay $354.8 million for
    financial fraud in 2024, after previously being indicted for
    fraudulently concealing hush-money payments made as part of a scheme to >>> manipulate the 2016 US presidential election.

    So signing an NDA to keep information from voters (and influence their
    votes)
    is now a crime?

    Well, good news, then! We don't have to wait for Newsom's presidential run >> to
    put him behind bars because he has required over 2000 workers on the new
    Capitol Annex project in Sacramento to sign NDAs forbidding them from
    disclosing the financial cost of the project to taxpayers and his
    administration refuses all media and FOIA requests for that information.
    It's
    somewhere north of a billion and a half, but that was five years ago, so who
    knows how much it's ballooned to by now and how many Friends of Gavin have >> pocketed dump-truck loads full of tax money.

    You're such a cute little cultist.

    You're defending Virginia literally outlawing any investigation into
    taxpayer
    fraud and you have the balls to call me a cultist?

    Wow. Someone needs to do some serious self-reflection here and it ain't me.

    Carrot Caligula's Big Ugly Bill has allocated over $170 billion over
    four years for his ICEstapo force, which is unpopular with 70-80% of
    Americans depending on which recent poll you use.

    Yep. And that ain't fraud. If paying for government programs that poll bad >> was
    fraud, there'd be a lot more Democrats in prison than Republicans.

    All your dubious (and verbose)

    Uh-oh! I'm using the big words and super70s is confused again. My apologies, I've apparently overestimated you yet again. I'll try to dumb it down to the level of a 3rd-grader for you in the future.

    So I'm afraid you boyz can forget about that state for the foreseeable future even if Trump himself was hand-counting the votes (of course
    that's when the actual fraud you're harping on would occur).

    No, the actual voter fraud occurs with ballot harvesting, a favorite tactic of the Democrat Party. There's a reason why most democracies around the world outlaw ballot harvesting and it's exactly why states like California make it legal.



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