Just got back from the grocery store and realized our new law requiring all plastic bags must be carried in paper bags went into effect on Jan 1. You can only get paper bags at grocery checkout despite plastic packaging for 90% of everything in the store-- from diced onions to potato chips to frozen vegetables. So all the stuff that?s wrapped in plastic has to be put in a paper bag to carry it to the car. Because we're saving the environment. Or something.
Meanwhile, vast swaths of L.A. look like this:
https://ibb.co/VWyGx95Z
It sure is great that they're so concerned about the environment that they took my plastic grocery bag away but let the vagrants turned the rest of the city into a gigantic trash pile.
On 1/21/26 11:06 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
Just got back from the grocery store and realized our new law requiring all >> plastic bags must be carried in paper bags went into effect on Jan 1. You >> can
only get paper bags at grocery checkout despite plastic packaging for 90% of
everything in the store-- from diced onions to potato chips to frozen
vegetables. So all the stuff that?s wrapped in plastic has to be put in a >> paper bag to carry it to the car. Because we're saving the environment. Or >> something.
Meanwhile, vast swaths of L.A. look like this:
https://ibb.co/VWyGx95Z
It sure is great that they're so concerned about the environment that they >> took my plastic grocery bag away but let the vagrants turn the rest of the >> city into a gigantic trash pile.
Are you sure about this? I was in Sprouts the other day, and they said
that paper bags were banned too!! I have no idea what they are using now
? they mumbled something about "reusable bags"...
But, at Sprouts, at least, there is no option for paper or plastic!
Just got back from the grocery store and realized our new law requiring all >plastic bags must be carried in paper bags went into effect on Jan 1. .
. .
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
Just got back from the grocery store and realized our new law requiring all >> plastic bags must be carried in paper bags went into effect on Jan 1. .
. .
Hahaha
Chicago and any number of suburbs tax "single-use bags", including paper bags. We're all supposed to use multi-use bags. Cloth-making, whether
from natural or plastic fibers, has higher environmental costs versus
plastic bags, according to a study that came out the very week my
community voted to impose the tax.
I refuse to pay the tax. I typically shop elsewhere that I'm not being nannied.
Since you used to own a dog, you have personal experience that plastic
bags are never single use. The legal definition is a lie.
We're too far ahead of you in the race to the bottom on this nannying.
Just got back from the grocery store and realized our new law requiring all plastic bags must be carried in paper bags went into effect on Jan 1. You can only get paper bags at grocery checkout despite plastic packaging for 90% of everything in the store-- from diced onions to potato chips to frozen vegetables. So all the stuff that?s wrapped in plastic has to be put in a paper bag to carry it to the car. Because we're saving the environment. Or something.
Meanwhile, vast swaths of L.A. look like this:
https://ibb.co/VWyGx95Z
It sure is great that they're so concerned about the environment that they took my plastic grocery bag away but let the vagrants turned the rest of the city into a gigantic trash pile.
On 1/21/26 11:06 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
Just got back from the grocery store and realized our new law
requiring all
plastic bags must be carried in paper bags went into effect on Jan 1.
You can
only get paper bags at grocery checkout despite plastic packaging for
90% of
everything in the store-- from diced onions to potato chips to frozen
vegetables. So all the stuff that?s wrapped in plastic has to be put in a
paper bag to carry it to the car. Because we're saving the
environment. Or
something.
Meanwhile, vast swaths of L.A. look like this:
https://ibb.co/VWyGx95Z
It sure is great that they're so concerned about the environment that
they
took my plastic grocery bag away but let the vagrants turned the rest
of the
city into a gigantic trash pile.
Are you sure about this? I was in Sprouts the other day, and they said
that paper bags were banned too!! I have no idea what they are using now
? they mumbled something about "reusable bags"...
But, at Sprouts, at least, there is no option for paper or plastic!
Jan 21, 2026 at 11:34:57 AM PST, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote: >>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
Just got back from the grocery store and realized our new law requiring all >>>plastic bags must be carried in paper bags went into effect on Jan 1. .
. .
Hahaha
Chicago and any number of suburbs tax "single-use bags", including paper >>bags. We're all supposed to use multi-use bags. Cloth-making, whether
from natural or plastic fibers, has higher environmental costs versus >>plastic bags, according to a study that came out the very week my
community voted to impose the tax.
There's also documented health and safety dangers to reusing bags, where food >can leak from, say, a package of chicken and end up with salmonella growing in >the fibers of your bag, which you then use to transport food on the next trip, >contaminating all your groceries.
I refuse to pay the tax. I typically shop elsewhere that I'm not being >>nannied.
Since you used to own a dog, you have personal experience that plastic
bags are never single use. The legal definition is a lie.
Yes, that point was brought up by a store that got dinged for not obeying the >*last* plastic bag ban we had but it didn't fly. They were told that just >because some or even many people use them more than once, the fact that some >people only use them and then throw them away makes them single-use under the >law.
We're too far ahead of you in the race to the bottom on this nannying.
Gavin Newsom: Hold my beer!
On 2026-01-21 2:06 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
Just got back from the grocery store and realized our new law requiring all >> plastic bags must be carried in paper bags went into effect on Jan 1. You >> canI get a "broken image" icon when I try your link. Don't sweat it on *my* account - I can easily picture vast expanses of plastic trash - but it
only get paper bags at grocery checkout despite plastic packaging for 90% of
everything in the store-- from diced onions to potato chips to frozen
vegetables. So all the stuff that?s wrapped in plastic has to be put in a >> paper bag to carry it to the car. Because we're saving the environment. Or >> something.
Meanwhile, vast swaths of L.A. look like this:
https://ibb.co/VWyGx95Z
It sure is great that they're so concerned about the environment that they >> took my plastic grocery bag away but let the vagrants turned the rest of the
city into a gigantic trash pile.
may mean the ibb.co has taken down the picture over copyright issues or something of that kind.
Just got back from the grocery store and realized our new law requiring all >plastic bags must be carried in paper bags went into effect on Jan 1. You can >only get paper bags at grocery checkout despite plastic packaging for 90% of >everything in the store-- from diced onions to potato chips to frozen >vegetables. So all the stuff that?s wrapped in plastic has to be put in a >paper bag to carry it to the car. Because we're saving the environment. Or >something.
Meanwhile, vast swaths of L.A. look like this:
https://ibb.co/VWyGx95Z
It sure is great that they're so concerned about the environment that they >took my plastic grocery bag away but let the vagrants turned the rest of the >city into a gigantic trash pile.
On Jan 21, 2026 at 11:09:49 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid> >wrote:
On 1/21/26 11:06 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
Just got back from the grocery store and realized our new law requiring all
plastic bags must be carried in paper bags went into effect on Jan 1. You >>> can
only get paper bags at grocery checkout despite plastic packaging for 90% of
everything in the store-- from diced onions to potato chips to frozen
vegetables. So all the stuff that?s wrapped in plastic has to be put in a >>> paper bag to carry it to the car. Because we're saving the environment. Or >>> something.
Meanwhile, vast swaths of L.A. look like this:
https://ibb.co/VWyGx95Z
It sure is great that they're so concerned about the environment that they >>> took my plastic grocery bag away but let the vagrants turn the rest of the >>> city into a gigantic trash pile.
Are you sure about this? I was in Sprouts the other day, and they said
that paper bags were banned too!! I have no idea what they are using now
? they mumbled something about "reusable bags"...
But, at Sprouts, at least, there is no option for paper or plastic!
Sprouts sounds like some kind of hippie vegan communist kind of store. Maybe >they've got a store policy that bans bags altogether and make you juggle your >groceries to the car, but the Von's and Ralph's near me have both switched to >paper bags.
On 2026-01-21 2:09 p.m., Ian J. Ball wrote:
On 1/21/26 11:06 AM, BTR1701 wrote:I haven't seen a paper bag in this country in years. Supermarkets expect
Just got back from the grocery store and realized our new law
requiring all
plastic bags must be carried in paper bags went into effect on Jan 1.
You can
only get paper bags at grocery checkout despite plastic packaging for
90% of
everything in the store-- from diced onions to potato chips to frozen
vegetables. So all the stuff that?s wrapped in plastic has to be put in a >>> paper bag to carry it to the car. Because we're saving the
environment. Or
something.
Meanwhile, vast swaths of L.A. look like this:
https://ibb.co/VWyGx95Z
It sure is great that they're so concerned about the environment that
they
took my plastic grocery bag away but let the vagrants turned the rest
of the
city into a gigantic trash pile.
Are you sure about this? I was in Sprouts the other day, and they said
that paper bags were banned too!! I have no idea what they are using now
? they mumbled something about "reusable bags"...
But, at Sprouts, at least, there is no option for paper or plastic!
you to use reusable bags - which they'll happily sell you if you don't
have any with you - and it's the same for the dollar store. I'm not sure >what Best Buy gives you; I bought a DVD burner in September but it was
so small and light I didn't bother with a bag.
On Jan 21, 2026 at 12:03:14 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-21 2:06 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
Just got back from the grocery store and realized our new law requiring allI get a "broken image" icon when I try your link. Don't sweat it on *my*
plastic bags must be carried in paper bags went into effect on Jan 1. You >>> can
only get paper bags at grocery checkout despite plastic packaging for 90% of
everything in the store-- from diced onions to potato chips to frozen
vegetables. So all the stuff that?s wrapped in plastic has to be put in a >>> paper bag to carry it to the car. Because we're saving the environment. Or
something.
Meanwhile, vast swaths of L.A. look like this:
https://ibb.co/VWyGx95Z
It sure is great that they're so concerned about the environment that they
took my plastic grocery bag away but let the vagrants turned the rest of the
city into a gigantic trash pile.
account - I can easily picture vast expanses of plastic trash - but it
may mean the ibb.co has taken down the picture over copyright issues or
something of that kind.
Still works when I load it.
On Wed, 21 Jan 2026 19:06:53 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
Just got back from the grocery store and realized our new law requiring all >> plastic bags must be carried in paper bags went into effect on Jan 1. You can
only get paper bags at grocery checkout despite plastic packaging for 90% of >> everything in the store-- from diced onions to potato chips to frozen
vegetables. So all the stuff that?s wrapped in plastic has to be put in a
paper bag to carry it to the car. Because we're saving the environment. Or >> something.
Meanwhile, vast swaths of L.A. look like this:
https://ibb.co/VWyGx95Z
It sure is great that they're so concerned about the environment that they >> took my plastic grocery bag away but let the vagrants turned the rest of the >> city into a gigantic trash pile.
Yeah, I saw a video about that, but it seems like you forgot
something. Not only do you have to use paper bags if you don't bring
your own but you have to pay 10 cents for each bag.
Meanwhile I walked out of the grocery store with extra plastic bags
yesterday because some were stuck together. All at the additional cost
of $0.00.
On Wed, 21 Jan 2026 19:18:38 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 21, 2026 at 11:09:49 AM PST, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid>
wrote:
On 1/21/26 11:06 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
Just got back from the grocery store and realized our new law requiring >>>> all plastic bags must be carried in paper bags went into effect on Jan >>>> 1. You can only get paper bags at grocery checkout despite plastic
packaging for 90% of everything in the store-- from diced onions to
potato chips to frozen vegetables. So all the stuff that?s wrapped in >>>> plastic has to be put in a paper bag to carry it to the car. Because
we're saving the environment. Or something.
Meanwhile, vast swaths of L.A. look like this:
https://ibb.co/VWyGx95Z
It sure is great that they're so concerned about the environment that they >>>> took my plastic grocery bag away but let the vagrants turn the rest of the >>>> city into a gigantic trash pile.
Are you sure about this? I was in Sprouts the other day, and they said
that paper bags were banned too!! I have no idea what they are using now >>> ? they mumbled something about "reusable bags"...
But, at Sprouts, at least, there is no option for paper or plastic!
Sprouts sounds like some kind of hippie vegan communist kind of store. Maybe >> they've got a store policy that bans bags altogether and make you juggle your
groceries to the car, but the Von's and Ralph's near me have both switched to
paper bags.
Apparently this is a real thing with Sprouts. The picture shows an announcement that starting Dec 15 they will no longer offer paper or
plastic bags so you need to bring your reusable bags or buy a sprout
tote. Guess they wouldn't let you use a plastic or paper bag that you
brought in.
Hmm, what if you purchase one of those boxes of plastic garbage bags
and then proceeded to package the rest of your groceries in those
plastic bags? I expect some heads would explode.
https://www.reddit.com/r/InstacartShoppers/comments/1pj8xlk/sprouts_no_bag_policy_in_california/
Just got back from the grocery store and realized our new law requiring all plastic bags must be carried in paper bags went into effect on Jan 1. You can only get paper bags at grocery checkout despite plastic packaging for 90% of everything in the store-- from diced onions to potato chips to frozen vegetables. So all the stuff that?s wrapped in plastic has to be put in a paper bag to carry it to the car. Because we're saving the environment. Or something.
Meanwhile, vast swaths of L.A. look like this:
https://ibb.co/VWyGx95Z
It sure is great that they're so concerned about the environment that they took my plastic grocery bag away but let the vagrants turned the rest of the city into a gigantic trash pile.
On Wed, 21 Jan 2026 19:06:53 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
Just got back from the grocery store and realized our new law requiring all >> plastic bags must be carried in paper bags went into effect on Jan 1. You can
only get paper bags at grocery checkout despite plastic packaging for 90% of >> everything in the store-- from diced onions to potato chips to frozen
vegetables. So all the stuff that?s wrapped in plastic has to be put in a
paper bag to carry it to the car. Because we're saving the environment. Or >> something.
Meanwhile, vast swaths of L.A. look like this:
https://ibb.co/VWyGx95Z
It sure is great that they're so concerned about the environment that they >> took my plastic grocery bag away but let the vagrants turned the rest of the >> city into a gigantic trash pile.
Yeah, I saw a video about that, but it seems like you forgot
something. Not only do you have to use paper bags if you don't bring
your own but you have to pay 10 cents for each bag.
Meanwhile I walked out of the grocery store with extra plastic bags
yesterday because some were stuck together. All at the additional cost
of $0.00.
Just got back from the grocery store and realized our new law requiring all >plastic bags must be carried in paper bags went into effect on Jan 1. You can >only get paper bags at grocery checkout despite plastic packaging for 90% of >everything in the store-- from diced onions to potato chips to frozen >vegetables. So all the stuff that?s wrapped in plastic has to be put in a >paper bag to carry it to the car. Because we're saving the environment. Or >something.
Meanwhile, vast swaths of L.A. look like this:
https://ibb.co/VWyGx95Z
It sure is great that they're so concerned about the environment that they >took my plastic grocery bag away but let the vagrants turned the rest of the >city into a gigantic trash pile.
On 1/21/26 11:06 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
Just got back from the grocery store and realized our new law requiring all >> plastic bags must be carried in paper bags went into effect on Jan 1. You can
only get paper bags at grocery checkout despite plastic packaging for 90% of >> everything in the store-- from diced onions to potato chips to frozen
vegetables. So all the stuff that?s wrapped in plastic has to be put in a
paper bag to carry it to the car. Because we're saving the environment. Or >> something.
Meanwhile, vast swaths of L.A. look like this:
https://ibb.co/VWyGx95Z
It sure is great that they're so concerned about the environment that they >> took my plastic grocery bag away but let the vagrants turned the rest of the >> city into a gigantic trash pile.
Are you sure about this? I was in Sprouts the other day, and they said
that paper bags were banned too!! I have no idea what they are using now
? they mumbled something about "reusable bags"...
But, at Sprouts, at least, there is no option for paper or plastic!
The other thing you can do is to buy one of the branded tote bags from
a competitior store and then use that to pack your Sprouts' shopping
into. :-)
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