• Weird deportation

    From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 20 04:38:20 2025

    ICE tried to send one immigrant to a country he never lived in. Then he lawyered up.
    By Ximena Bustillo
    NPR
    October 19, 2025 7:00 AM ET

    A man came to the United States at age 4 as a refuge from the Soviet
    Union. At some point as a child, he obtained a green card (immigration
    visa) which entitles a holder to work and have most of the benefits of
    being an American except voting.

    When he was a darling teenage boy, he committed a carjacking and pleaded guilty. Carjacking is a violent felony and he deserved to be deported,
    but he never was. Why? The Soviet Union had collapsed. He was born in
    what became Ukraine. (I have no idea if he's a Russian or Ukrainian
    ethnic based on his name.) Neither country could locate a record of his
    birth and wouldn't say he was a national, so he never got deported.

    He's kept out of trouble, became productive, and did his immigration
    check ins without fail. He married and told his wife about his shady
    past.

    Trump administration picked him up in August for deportation at his
    routine immigration check in, and since then, his wife has spent full
    time fighting his deportation. She found a team of lawyers.

    Interestingly, they got the umderlying conviction vacated due to police
    and courts failing to follow procedure. He should have been advised that pleading guilty and not facing a full trial would immediately put his immigration status in peril.

    I also wonder if, when he was arrested, the consulate was informed.
    Police fail to make those routine notifications even though the United
    States is a party to treaties requiring such notification so that U.S. consulates are notified when American travellers abroad are arrested.

    Which embassy? He's a stateless person.

    He speaks neither Russian nor Ukrainian, and if deported to Ukraine,
    he'd be drafted since middle aged men are fighting in the war.

    Had he been deported initially, he'd have deserved it, but since he
    turned his life around, I'm sympathetic.

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  • From The True Melissa@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 20 05:52:49 2025
    In article <10d4ebs$2v474$1@dont-email.me>,
    ahk@chinet.com says...
    Had he been deported initially, he'd have deserved it, but since he
    turned his life around, I'm sympathetic.


    According to the dates, he was already an adult during
    two amnesties. It sounds like he took advantage of
    neither. His carjacking conviction may have blocked that,
    but I'm not sure that's wrong.

    This is an unusual case. Letting a court decide is
    probably the right thing.


    Melissa


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