I've got a model with firmware from 2009 but likely got it in 2010 or
2011, replacement for a badly manufactured Sony model.
Something is overheating and the tv shuts itself off and turns back on
every 20 minutes or so. This can't be good.
Anyone want to make a recommendation? I'd like something with buttons I
can push when the remote fails. And I don't want a tv that spies on me,
a la Max Headroom.
And I'd like there to be more to watch that's less crappy.
Is it possible just to get an oversized computer monitor these days?
ahk@chinet.com deliver unto us this message:
I've got a model with firmware from 2009 but likely got it in 2010 or
2011, replacement for a badly manufactured Sony model.
Something is overheating and the tv shuts itself off and turns back on >>every 20 minutes or so. This can't be good.
Anyone want to make a recommendation? I'd like something with buttons I
can push when the remote fails. And I don't want a tv that spies on me,
a la Max Headroom.
How do you stream? Do you need a smart TV for its apps, or do you hook >another box to it?
I'm happy with my LG, which I've had for many years. It's almost 20
years old at this point, and the remote only just died a few days ago
(and can be replaced easily).
And I'd like there to be more to watch that's less crappy.
I'm not sure your choice of screen can help with that.
Is it possible just to get an oversized computer monitor these days?
Hey, a TV *is* a large monitor. I use a small TV as my work monitor, to
save my eyes.
Computer monitors wouldn't have built-in apps nor tons of undesireable features, but they could still have built-in video cameras to spy. I was wondering if it's possible to buy a very large one to replace a tv.
I haven't looked anything up yet.
I've got a model with firmware from 2009 but likely got it in 2010 or
2011, replacement for a badly manufactured Sony model.
Something is overheating and the tv shuts itself off and turns back on
every 20 minutes or so. This can't be good.
Anyone want to make a recommendation? I'd like something with buttons I
can push when the remote fails. And I don't want a tv that spies on me,
a la Max Headroom.
And I'd like there to be more to watch that's less crappy.
Is it possible just to get an oversized computer monitor these days?
Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
ahk@chinet.com deliver unto us this message:
I've got a model with firmware from 2009 but likely got it in 2010 or >>>2011, replacement for a badly manufactured Sony model.
Something is overheating and the tv shuts itself off and turns back on >>>every 20 minutes or so. This can't be good.
Anyone want to make a recommendation? I'd like something with buttons I >>>can push when the remote fails. And I don't want a tv that spies on me,
a la Max Headroom.
How do you stream? Do you need a smart TV for its apps, or do you hook >>another box to it?
X1 set-top box rented from Comcast
I'm happy with my LG, which I've had for many years. It's almost 20
years old at this point, and the remote only just died a few days ago
(and can be replaced easily).
And I'd like there to be more to watch that's less crappy.
I'm not sure your choice of screen can help with that.
Is it possible just to get an oversized computer monitor these days?
Hey, a TV *is* a large monitor. I use a small TV as my work monitor, to >>save my eyes.
Computer monitors wouldn't have built-in apps nor tons of undesireable >features, but they could still have built-in video cameras to spy. I was >wondering if it's possible to buy a very large one to replace a tv.
I haven't looked anything up yet.
On 8/17/25 11:31 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
I've got a model with firmware from 2009 but likely got it in 2010 or
2011, replacement for a badly manufactured Sony model.
Something is overheating and the tv shuts itself off and turns back on
every 20 minutes or so. This can't be good.
Anyone want to make a recommendation? I'd like something with buttons I
can push when the remote fails. And I don't want a tv that spies on me,
a la Max Headroom.
And I'd like there to be more to watch that's less crappy.
Is it possible just to get an oversized computer monitor these days?
Are there "dumb TVs" anymore? Not really.
Then you need to answer other questions before getting a new TV - Do you >want LED-LCD or OLED?
Sony Bravia TVs are still considered the top of the line TVs. Both
LED-LCD and OLED.
Like Melissa, I do really like my LG. But LG excels at OLED TVs. I think >their LED-LCD are not held in as high regard.
Basically, everything I've heard says to stay away from Samsung TVs.
If you want a cheaper, but still decent LED-LCD TV, the Chinese brand
TCL is considered the best one of these. Hisense is much less well
regarded. And these days you can forget about Vizio.
. . .
Using a computer monitor is certainly an option, but you would
probably want separate speakers as computer monitor speakers tend to
be really weak.
I do most of my TV watching on this 34 inch ultra wide
monitor since most of what I watch is either streaming or content I've >downloaded. It works for me since I'm the only one watching, but I do
have a TV set to the side that I'll use when watching something live
from broadcast networks.
As for TVs I know when I was considering a new one LG kept coming to
the top. Though if you want to go cheaper then HiSense is a good
option. Of course if you go all out then Sony is likely the best for
their top of the line OLED TVs.
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
. . .
Using a computer monitor is certainly an option, but you would
probably want separate speakers as computer monitor speakers tend to
be really weak.
A tv's built-in speakers probably suck too.
The tv itself switches input. The tv's audio path outputs to a stereo.
I've got two speakers plus a subwoofer.
I do most of my TV watching on this 34 inch ultra wide
monitor since most of what I watch is either streaming or content I've
downloaded. It works for me since I'm the only one watching, but I do
have a TV set to the side that I'll use when watching something live
from broadcast networks.
Is ultra wide 2.35:1 aspect ratio?
As for TVs I know when I was considering a new one LG kept coming to
the top. Though if you want to go cheaper then HiSense is a good
option. Of course if you go all out then Sony is likely the best for
their top of the line OLED TVs.
I've seen bad reviews of HiSense in the past. I wasn't thinking about
OLED but I could check it out.
Thanks to Melissa and shawn
On 8/17/25 11:31 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
I've got a model with firmware from 2009 but likely got it in 2010 or
2011, replacement for a badly manufactured Sony model.
Something is overheating and the tv shuts itself off and turns back on
every 20 minutes or so. This can't be good.
Anyone want to make a recommendation? I'd like something with buttons I
can push when the remote fails. And I don't want a tv that spies on me,
a la Max Headroom.
And I'd like there to be more to watch that's less crappy.
Is it possible just to get an oversized computer monitor these days?
Are there "dumb TVs" anymore? Not really.
Then you need to answer other questions before getting a new TV - Do
you want LED-LCD or OLED?
Sony Bravia TVs are still considered the top of the line TVs. Both
LED-LCD and OLED.
Like Melissa, I do really like my LG. But LG excels at OLED TVs. I
think their LED-LCD are not held in as high regard.
Basically, everything I've heard says to stay away from Samsung TVs.
If you want a cheaper, but still decent LED-LCD TV, the Chinese brand
TCL is considered the best one of these. Hisense is much less well
regarded. And these days you can forget about Vizio.
Like Melissa, I do really like my LG. But LG excels at OLED TVs. I think >their LED-LCD are not held in as high regard.
TVs with actual buttons on them are a rarity these days too, if there
are any at all. :-(
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
. . .
Using a computer monitor is certainly an option, but you would
probably want separate speakers as computer monitor speakers tend to
be really weak.
A tv's built-in speakers probably suck too.
The tv itself switches input. The tv's audio path outputs to a stereo.
I've got two speakers plus a subwoofer.
I do most of my TV watching on this 34 inch ultra wide
monitor since most of what I watch is either streaming or content I've >>downloaded. It works for me since I'm the only one watching, but I do
have a TV set to the side that I'll use when watching something live
from broadcast networks.
Is ultra wide 2.35:1 aspect ratio?
As for TVs I know when I was considering a new one LG kept coming to
the top. Though if you want to go cheaper then HiSense is a good
option. Of course if you go all out then Sony is likely the best for
their top of the line OLED TVs.
I've seen bad reviews of HiSense in the past. I wasn't thinking about
OLED but I could check it out.
Thanks to Melissa and shawn
On 8/17/25 1:42 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
. . .
Using a computer monitor is certainly an option, but you would
probably want separate speakers as computer monitor speakers tend to
be really weak.
A tv's built-in speakers probably suck too.
The tv itself switches input. The tv's audio path outputs to a stereo.
I've got two speakers plus a subwoofer.
I do most of my TV watching on this 34 inch ultra wide
monitor since most of what I watch is either streaming or content I've
downloaded. It works for me since I'm the only one watching, but I do
have a TV set to the side that I'll use when watching something live >>>from broadcast networks.
Is ultra wide 2.35:1 aspect ratio?
As for TVs I know when I was considering a new one LG kept coming to
the top. Though if you want to go cheaper then HiSense is a good
option. Of course if you go all out then Sony is likely the best for
their top of the line OLED TVs.
I've seen bad reviews of HiSense in the past. I wasn't thinking about
OLED but I could check it out.
Thanks to Melissa and shawn
Uh... Did you read the rest of this thread?!
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:53:20 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/17/25 1:42 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
. . .
Using a computer monitor is certainly an option, but you would
probably want separate speakers as computer monitor speakers tend to
be really weak.
A tv's built-in speakers probably suck too.
The tv itself switches input. The tv's audio path outputs to a stereo.
I've got two speakers plus a subwoofer.
I do most of my TV watching on this 34 inch ultra wide
monitor since most of what I watch is either streaming or content I've >>>> downloaded. It works for me since I'm the only one watching, but I do
have a TV set to the side that I'll use when watching something live
from broadcast networks.
Is ultra wide 2.35:1 aspect ratio?
As for TVs I know when I was considering a new one LG kept coming to
the top. Though if you want to go cheaper then HiSense is a good
option. Of course if you go all out then Sony is likely the best for
their top of the line OLED TVs.
I've seen bad reviews of HiSense in the past. I wasn't thinking about
OLED but I could check it out.
Thanks to Melissa and shawn
Uh... Did you read the rest of this thread?!
who are you and why are you here?
If only you had kept making lists people would remember you.
LOL.
If you're not nice to me, I will make you watch "Tracker"!! :D
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 20:42:23 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
. . .
Using a computer monitor is certainly an option, but you would
probably want separate speakers as computer monitor speakers tend to
be really weak.
A tv's built-in speakers probably suck too.
True.
The tv itself switches input. The tv's audio path outputs to a stereo.
I've got two speakers plus a subwoofer.
Yeah, I've got a pair of speakers sitting behind my monitor which have
much better sound than the built in speakers. I thought about a sub
woofer but it's almost unusable in these apartments as the sound
travels too well.
I do most of my TV watching on this 34 inch ultra wide
monitor since most of what I watch is either streaming or content I've
downloaded. It works for me since I'm the only one watching, but I do
have a TV set to the side that I'll use when watching something live
from broadcast networks.
Is ultra wide 2.35:1 aspect ratio?
21:9 so perhaps not a perfect match but close enough.
As for TVs I know when I was considering a new one LG kept coming to
the top. Though if you want to go cheaper then HiSense is a good
option. Of course if you go all out then Sony is likely the best for
their top of the line OLED TVs.
I've seen bad reviews of HiSense in the past. I wasn't thinking about
OLED but I could check it out.
Thanks to Melissa and shawn
Good luck with your hunt. As was suggested in another post it may be
possible to fix your old TV if you want to go that route. I know I had
an old TV back around 2000 that was new at the time and kept switching
off when you first turned it on. If you then turned it on a second
time it would work fine. Turns out it was a bad chip that was easily
replaced once you lugged the TV (remember this was tube time) to a
repair shop. So maybe it's something similar where a chip is
overheating and causing your troubles.
On 8/17/25 2:03 PM, shawn wrote:
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 20:42:23 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
. . .
Using a computer monitor is certainly an option, but you would
probably want separate speakers as computer monitor speakers tend to
be really weak.
A tv's built-in speakers probably suck too.
True.
The modern TV types will say you shouldn't use the TV's built-in
speakers and that you need a soundbar. But the modern TV/AV snobs will insist you need a stereo with a fancy AV receiver to go with your TV.
Specifically for streaming from the Apple TV box, I use two HomePods as
my "stereo speakers" and I am quite pleased with this setup.
The tv itself switches input. The tv's audio path outputs to a stereo.
I've got two speakers plus a subwoofer.
Yeah, I've got a pair of speakers sitting behind my monitor which have
much better sound than the built in speakers. I thought about a sub
woofer but it's almost unusable in these apartments as the sound
travels too well.
I do most of my TV watching on this 34 inch ultra wide
monitor since most of what I watch is either streaming or content I've >>>> downloaded. It works for me since I'm the only one watching, but I do
have a TV set to the side that I'll use when watching something live
from broadcast networks.
Is ultra wide 2.35:1 aspect ratio?
21:9 so perhaps not a perfect match but close enough.
As for TVs I know when I was considering a new one LG kept coming to
the top. Though if you want to go cheaper then HiSense is a good
option. Of course if you go all out then Sony is likely the best for
their top of the line OLED TVs.
I've seen bad reviews of HiSense in the past. I wasn't thinking about
OLED but I could check it out.
Thanks to Melissa and shawn
Good luck with your hunt. As was suggested in another post it may be
possible to fix your old TV if you want to go that route. I know I had
an old TV back around 2000 that was new at the time and kept switching
off when you first turned it on. If you then turned it on a second
time it would work fine. Turns out it was a bad chip that was easily
replaced once you lugged the TV (remember this was tube time) to a
repair shop. So maybe it's something similar where a chip is
overheating and causing your troubles.
I think Adam deserves a fancy modern TV, don't you?! O:)
On 8/17/25 2:04 PM, shawn wrote:
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:53:20 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/17/25 1:42 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
. . .
Using a computer monitor is certainly an option, but you would
probably want separate speakers as computer monitor speakers tend to >>>>> be really weak.
A tv's built-in speakers probably suck too.
The tv itself switches input. The tv's audio path outputs to a stereo. >>>> I've got two speakers plus a subwoofer.
I do most of my TV watching on this 34 inch ultra wide
monitor since most of what I watch is either streaming or content I've >>>>> downloaded. It works for me since I'm the only one watching, but I do >>>>> have a TV set to the side that I'll use when watching something live
from broadcast networks.
Is ultra wide 2.35:1 aspect ratio?
As for TVs I know when I was considering a new one LG kept coming to >>>>> the top. Though if you want to go cheaper then HiSense is a good
option. Of course if you go all out then Sony is likely the best for >>>>> their top of the line OLED TVs.
I've seen bad reviews of HiSense in the past. I wasn't thinking about
OLED but I could check it out.
Thanks to Melissa and shawn
Uh... Did you read the rest of this thread?!
who are you and why are you here?
I'm your modern TV expert! That's who!! ;p
I only spent much of last year hanging out in the Reddit TV forums
reading about OLED and mini-LED TVs!! :p
If only you had kept making lists people would remember you.
I do make lists - unfortunately now they're mostly for work, with the
other few for my video game guild! (Ha!!)
LOL.
If you're not nice to me, I will make you watch "Tracker"!! :D
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:53:20 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/17/25 1:42 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
. . .
Using a computer monitor is certainly an option, but you would
probably want separate speakers as computer monitor speakers tend to
be really weak.
A tv's built-in speakers probably suck too.
The tv itself switches input. The tv's audio path outputs to a stereo.
I've got two speakers plus a subwoofer.
I do most of my TV watching on this 34 inch ultra wide
monitor since most of what I watch is either streaming or content I've >>>> downloaded. It works for me since I'm the only one watching, but I do
have a TV set to the side that I'll use when watching something live
from broadcast networks.
Is ultra wide 2.35:1 aspect ratio?
As for TVs I know when I was considering a new one LG kept coming to
the top. Though if you want to go cheaper then HiSense is a good
option. Of course if you go all out then Sony is likely the best for
their top of the line OLED TVs.
I've seen bad reviews of HiSense in the past. I wasn't thinking about
OLED but I could check it out.
Thanks to Melissa and shawn
Uh... Did you read the rest of this thread?!
who are you and why are you here?
If only you had kept making lists people would remember you.
LOL.
Good luck with your hunt. As was suggested in another post it may be
possible to fix your old TV if you want to go that route. I know I had
an old TV back around 2000 that was new at the time and kept switching
off when you first turned it on. If you then turned it on a second
time it would work fine. Turns out it was a bad chip that was easily
replaced once you lugged the TV (remember this was tube time) to a
repair shop. So maybe it's something similar where a chip is
overheating and causing your troubles.
Agreed but there are TVs that will work without being connected to the >Internet and then others that need to be connected. For me I have no
need to have my TV connected to the Internet.
No one will even attempt repairs on modern flat screen TVs. Haven't for
at least a decade. There aren't individual "parts" you can replace, its
all integrated.
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
No one will even attempt repairs on modern flat screen TVs. Haven't for >>at least a decade. There aren't individual "parts" you can replace, its >>all integrated.
Disposable culture sucks. I hope someone figures out a decent purpose
for all those landfills of old electronics.
Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
No one will even attempt repairs on modern flat screen TVs. Haven't for >>at least a decade. There aren't individual "parts" you can replace, its >>all integrated.
Disposable culture sucks. I hope someone figures out a decent purpose
for all those landfills of old electronics.
There's nothing harmful to the environment about properly disposed of electronic waste. We know how to design landfills so nearby underground acquifers are not contaminated. Landfills that leak were improperly
designed and constructed.
We know how to avoid creating new Superfund sites.
ahk@chinet.com deliver unto us this message:
Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
No one will even attempt repairs on modern flat screen TVs. Haven't for >>>>at least a decade. There aren't individual "parts" you can replace, its >>>>all integrated.
Disposable culture sucks. I hope someone figures out a decent purpose >>>for all those landfills of old electronics.
There's nothing harmful to the environment about properly disposed of >>electronic waste. We know how to design landfills so nearby underground >>acquifers are not contaminated. Landfills that leak were improperly >>designed and constructed.
We know how to avoid creating new Superfund sites.
That's good, but it doesn't make all the waste any better. People know
how to make items that last, but we no longer want that. Planned
obsolesence is like a subscription model for appliances.
We put up with it because new things are shiny.
Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
No one will even attempt repairs on modern flat screen TVs. Haven't for >>> at least a decade. There aren't individual "parts" you can replace, its >>> all integrated.
Disposable culture sucks. I hope someone figures out a decent purpose
for all those landfills of old electronics.
There's nothing harmful to the environment about properly disposed of electronic waste. We know how to design landfills so nearby underground acquifers are not contaminated. Landfills that leak were improperly
designed and constructed.
We know how to avoid creating new Superfund sites.
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