• Re: Bosch first three seasons

    From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Aug 16 10:32:10 2025
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    I hast succomed to streaming. I feel so dirty.

    I've been watching Freevee now that it's going away at the end of
    August. They have all 7 seasons of Bosch. I'm going to try to watch all
    of it.

    I've been enjoying Titus Welliver's low key performance. J. Edgar (Jamie >Hector) is a good character and they've made him a good detective. Crate
    and Barrel are also good detectives, especially with the paperwork.

    The show has plenty of cliches but avoids the one with the bad boss. Amy >Aquino, whom I remember from ER, is one of the boys.

    Lance Reddick's Irvin Irving is even more ambitious than Cedric Daniels but >not quite as smart.

    Really cracked me up that the very distinctive looking character actor
    Barry Shabaka Henley was brought in to play a retired RHD detective in
    Season 3. I remember his old show from two decades ago fondly.

    Madison Lintz as Harry's daughter, also Madison, has a nice rapor with
    her father. Season 2 was weaker than the other two seasons.

    Four more to go.

    I have finished all 7 seasons of Bosch and 3 seasons of Bosch: Legacy.

    There were plenty of cliched plots but the dialogue was great, so it was
    quite well done. I didn't like that there were two stories in which the
    bad guy was a high-ranking respected public official, and that both
    Irving and Chandler ran for public office.

    Huh. It turns out that Chandler was a character in just the one novel,
    but a continuing character on Bosch and Bosch: Legacy. There was a
    suggestion that she was given Mickey Haller's plots from the novels, but
    most of her scenes have got to be newly written for tv, or taken from
    other lawyer characters in the novels.

    Amazon Prime has rights to the Bosch character, while Netflix has rights
    to the Haller character, so the actors won't ever cross over.

    I've got to make the observation that on Bosch and Bosch: Legacy,
    many times, when an actor playing a recurring character was promoted to main cast, something terrible happened to the character. Wish, Bosch's ex
    wife, was murdered. Chandler spent much of season 7 in a coma. Jimmy got assasinated.

    They did make use of the police boss as a source of conflict for Bosch,
    except for Billets. The other middle management police bosses were
    flakes and duds, and in season 7, Irving turned out to be a bad guy,
    planting evidence in one case he worked in the past.

    I didn't like the rich man looking for his legacy in Bosch: Legacy
    season 1. William Devance came out of retirement to play this role,
    which I have a feeling will be his last role. I've seen that plot too
    many times before. The other legacy was Maddie joining the police force. Actually some of Maddie's plots in Bosch: Legacy were more interesting
    than what Bosch worked on.

    Once Bosch became a private detective, he lost his constitutional
    restraints and broke into a hell of a lot of homes and offices.

    I hated Mo, the Penelope character. All those years, Bosch avoided the
    instant technology to advance the plot but it was integral to the sequel series.

    Crate and Barrel were used almost as often in the sequel series as they
    were in the main series.

    Surprisingly, the first episode of Ballard showed up on Freevee, so I
    watched it, but the rest of the series isn't on Freevee so I'm under no deadline to watch.

    Comcast stopped indexing anything on Freevee earlier in August but I
    could find series by entering the app first and searching.

    As Bosch had commercial breaks, the commercials weren't too bad. Later
    seasons had a lot more commercials. Sometimes they actually ran
    commercials between acts as opposed to at random times.

    I'm all Bosched out. Now just waiting to borrow the Roku stick from the
    library to watch Mickey Haller.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Aug 16 13:23:22 2025
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    I have finished all 7 seasons of Bosch and 3 seasons of Bosch: Legacy.

    Another comment

    In Bosch seasons 6 and 7, there were episodes in which Maddie was working
    for Chandler. Now, she's not a paralegal and hadn't yet graduated from
    college; she was just between years. She had no specialized legal
    training. At that point, she was thinking about going into law.

    In one episode, she came up with something based on reading stacks of transcripts for a P.I. case Chandler was preparing. Her boss ignored
    it, so she took it over his head to Chandler.

    She was then told to "Shepardize" it.

    Now, I'm familiar with this because I've had to look up case law. I've
    used Shephard's Citations and Smith-Hurd from West Publishing. Now, this
    was in the '80s and I was doing this for campaign opposition research,
    not helping to prepare legal briefs for lawsuits. Law libraries had law
    books in massive volumes, all bound in maroon bindings. West had an "on
    line" citation service, massively expensive to use, requiring modems to
    contact their servers. Law firms paid by the minute. This was never in a campaign's budget.

    For decades, Shepard was the only comprehensive citator till West became
    a serious competitor in 1980.

    Shepard is now one of numerous databases law firms have access to in
    their LexisNexis subscription. West isn't hasn't been an American
    company since the '90s, and their reporters are no longer produced in
    the United States, 'cuz anybody without knowledge can produce a useful
    index, sigh.

    In another episode, Maddie told Chandler she reviewed a brief or
    information or whatever was to be filed with a court and checked
    citations. Chandler let her file it.

    Oh, for fuck's sake. Even if she were a trained paralegal and excellent
    with legal research, an attorney would have to review anything that they
    would need to rely upon in court and anything that gets filed.

    That annoyed me.

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Aug 16 13:57:28 2025
    On Aug 15, 2025 at 5:32:10 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    I hast succomed to streaming. I feel so dirty.

    I've been watching Freevee now that it's going away at the end of
    August. They have all 7 seasons of Bosch. I'm going to try to watch all
    of it.

    I've been enjoying Titus Welliver's low key performance. J. Edgar (Jamie
    Hector) is a good character and they've made him a good detective. Crate
    and Barrel are also good detectives, especially with the paperwork.

    The show has plenty of cliches but avoids the one with the bad boss. Amy
    Aquino, whom I remember from ER, is one of the boys.

    Lance Reddick's Irvin Irving is even more ambitious than Cedric Daniels but >> not quite as smart.

    Really cracked me up that the very distinctive looking character actor
    Barry Shabaka Henley was brought in to play a retired RHD detective in
    Season 3. I remember his old show from two decades ago fondly.

    Madison Lintz as Harry's daughter, also Madison, has a nice rapor with
    her father. Season 2 was weaker than the other two seasons.

    Four more to go.

    I have finished all 7 seasons of Bosch and 3 seasons of Bosch: Legacy.

    There were plenty of cliched plots but the dialogue was great, so it was quite well done. I didn't like that there were two stories in which the
    bad guy was a high-ranking respected public official, and that both
    Irving and Chandler ran for public office.

    That's pretty accurate for L.A. Out of 15 members of the city council, five of them are in various stages of indictment, arrest, trial, or in prison.

    Huh. It turns out that Chandler was a character in just the one novel,
    but a continuing character on Bosch and Bosch: Legacy. There was a
    suggestion that she was given Mickey Haller's plots from the novels, but
    most of her scenes have got to be newly written for tv, or taken from
    other lawyer characters in the novels.

    She was murdered in the books.



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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Aug 16 15:01:14 2025
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Aug 15, 2025 at 5:32:10 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    I hast succomed to streaming. I feel so dirty.

    I've been watching Freevee now that it's going away at the end of
    August. They have all 7 seasons of Bosch. I'm going to try to watch all
    of it.

    I've been enjoying Titus Welliver's low key performance. J. Edgar (Jamie >>> Hector) is a good character and they've made him a good detective. Crate >>> and Barrel are also good detectives, especially with the paperwork.

    The show has plenty of cliches but avoids the one with the bad boss. Amy >>> Aquino, whom I remember from ER, is one of the boys.

    Lance Reddick's Irvin Irving is even more ambitious than Cedric Daniels but >>> not quite as smart.

    Really cracked me up that the very distinctive looking character actor
    Barry Shabaka Henley was brought in to play a retired RHD detective in
    Season 3. I remember his old show from two decades ago fondly.

    Madison Lintz as Harry's daughter, also Madison, has a nice rapor with
    her father. Season 2 was weaker than the other two seasons.

    Four more to go.

    I have finished all 7 seasons of Bosch and 3 seasons of Bosch: Legacy.

    There were plenty of cliched plots but the dialogue was great, so it was
    quite well done. I didn't like that there were two stories in which the
    bad guy was a high-ranking respected public official, and that both
    Irving and Chandler ran for public office.

    That's pretty accurate for L.A. Out of 15 members of the city council, five of >them are in various stages of indictment, arrest, trial, or in prison.

    You aren't going to reach Chicago's level of corruption at that rate. 40 aldermen have been sent to prison.

    Huh. It turns out that Chandler was a character in just the one novel,
    but a continuing character on Bosch and Bosch: Legacy. There was a
    suggestion that she was given Mickey Haller's plots from the novels, but
    most of her scenes have got to be newly written for tv, or taken from
    other lawyer characters in the novels.

    She was murdered in the books.

    So Chandler was in more than one novel? Thanks

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