• Make It Make Sense

    From BTR1701@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Jun 18 13:08:53 2025
    https://ibb.co/RknV5xzr

    Misdemeanor charge + $2000 fine

    https://ibb.co/SD6RcDVp

    Man in Rhode Island was arrested after he allegedly made a skid mark on a
    Pride Rainbow crosswalk with his car.

    The city allowing a "pride" crosswalk in the first place is a 1A violation. If I asked for a permit to paint an anti-troon mural in the crosswalk (or a pro-gun/2A message), I bet they wouldn't give me one. The government is allowing some political and social messages but not others based on their own politics.

    Where are the DOJ lawsuits against rainbow murals being painted on city
    streets (to the exclusion of all other non-'progressive' messages) and then treated like religious icons?



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  • From moviePig@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Jun 18 13:18:39 2025
    On 6/17/2025 11:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    https://ibb.co/RknV5xzr

    Misdemeanor charge + $2000 fine

    https://ibb.co/SD6RcDVp

    Man in Rhode Island was arrested after he allegedly made a skid mark on a Pride Rainbow crosswalk with his car.

    The city allowing a "pride" crosswalk in the first place is a 1A violation. If
    I asked for a permit to paint an anti-troon mural in the crosswalk (or a pro-gun/2A message), I bet they wouldn't give me one. The government is allowing some political and social messages but not others based on their own politics.

    Where are the DOJ lawsuits against rainbow murals being painted on city streets (to the exclusion of all other non-'progressive' messages) and then treated like religious icons?

    I'd bet any bias is more about squeaky-wheel avoidance than politics.



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  • From BTR1701@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Jun 18 13:37:46 2025
    On Jun 17, 2025 at 8:18:39 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 6/17/2025 11:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

    https://ibb.co/RknV5xzr

    Misdemeanor charge + $2000 fine

    https://ibb.co/SD6RcDVp

    Man in Rhode Island was arrested after he allegedly made a skid mark on a >> Pride Rainbow crosswalk with his car.

    The city allowing a "pride" crosswalk in the first place is a 1A violation. >> If
    I asked for a permit to paint an anti-troon mural in the crosswalk (or a
    pro-gun/2A message), I bet they wouldn't give me one. The government is
    allowing some political and social messages but not others based on their >> own
    politics.

    Where are the DOJ lawsuits against rainbow murals being painted on city
    streets (to the exclusion of all other non-'progressive' messages) and then >> treated like religious icons?

    I'd bet any bias is more about squeaky-wheel avoidance than politics.

    Well, if that's the goal, I can't imagine how all but calling up the
    Department of Justice and saying, "Sue us!" accomplishes that.



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  • From moviePig@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jun 19 02:05:17 2025
    On 6/17/2025 11:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jun 17, 2025 at 8:18:39 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 6/17/2025 11:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

    https://ibb.co/RknV5xzr

    Misdemeanor charge + $2000 fine

    https://ibb.co/SD6RcDVp

    Man in Rhode Island was arrested after he allegedly made a skid mark on a >>> Pride Rainbow crosswalk with his car.

    The city allowing a "pride" crosswalk in the first place is a 1A violation.
    If
    I asked for a permit to paint an anti-troon mural in the crosswalk (or a >>> pro-gun/2A message), I bet they wouldn't give me one. The government is >>> allowing some political and social messages but not others based on their >>> own
    politics.

    Where are the DOJ lawsuits against rainbow murals being painted on city >>> streets (to the exclusion of all other non-'progressive' messages) and then
    treated like religious icons?

    I'd bet any bias is more about squeaky-wheel avoidance than politics.

    Well, if that's the goal, I can't imagine how all but calling up the Department of Justice and saying, "Sue us!" accomplishes that.

    Washington, from three-thousand miles away, may feel easier to ignore
    than one's own pissed-off neighborhood.



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  • From Ed Stasiak@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jun 19 12:15:59 2025

    BTR1701

    The city allowing a "pride" crosswalk in the first place is a 1A violation. If
    I asked for a permit to paint an anti-troon mural in the crosswalk (or a pro-gun/2A message), I bet they wouldn't give me one. The government
    is allowing some political and social messages but not others based on
    their own politics.

    Heard on the radio and that the city of Windsor Canada (just to the south
    of Detroit) is discussing an ordnance that city government buildings ONLY
    fly the flags of the city of Windsor, the province of Ontario, some kinda Frenchy-Canadian flag and the Canadian national flag.

    Apparently there there are _hundreds_ of requests per year to the city to
    fly this or that flag and of course the people whose requests are denied,
    get all mad and claim racism/homophobia/sexism/botulism, etc and so on.

    It's a pain in the ass and the city don't want to deal with it anymore.

    https://i.postimg.cc/cCqmsFh7/temp-Image-Pl-KL5-G.avif

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  • From danny burstein@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jun 19 12:23:42 2025
    In <1750299359-1263@newsgrouper.org> Ed Stasiak <user1263@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:

    [snip]

    Heard on the radio and that the city of Windsor Canada (just to the south
    of Detroit)

    wait a second. Isn't Canada *north* of the "48 States"? (Yeah,
    Alaska and Hawaii are outliers).

    Next you'll tell us to get from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean
    via the Panama Canal you head _eastward_....

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  • From Ed Stasiak@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jun 19 13:14:48 2025

    danny burstein
    Ed Stasiak

    Heard on the radio and that the city of Windsor Canada (just to
    the south of Detroit)

    wait a second. Isn't Canada *north* of the "48 States"?

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Windsor_locator%2C_Detroit%2C_2021.svg

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  • From suzeeq@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jun 19 14:36:24 2025
    On 6/18/2025 7:23 PM, danny burstein wrote:
    In <1750299359-1263@newsgrouper.org> Ed Stasiak <user1263@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:

    [snip]

    Heard on the radio and that the city of Windsor Canada (just to the south
    of Detroit)

    wait a second. Isn't Canada *north* of the "48 States"? (Yeah,
    Alaska and Hawaii are outliers).

    Not all of it. Windsor's right across the river from Detroit to the SE.
    Look at map.

    Next you'll tell us to get from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean
    via the Panama Canal you head _eastward_....



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  • From Rhino@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jun 20 02:57:01 2025
    On 2025-06-18 10:15 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:

    BTR1701

    The city allowing a "pride" crosswalk in the first place is a 1A violation. If
    I asked for a permit to paint an anti-troon mural in the crosswalk (or a
    pro-gun/2A message), I bet they wouldn't give me one. The government
    is allowing some political and social messages but not others based on
    their own politics.

    Heard on the radio and that the city of Windsor Canada (just to the south
    of Detroit) is discussing an ordnance that city government buildings ONLY
    fly the flags of the city of Windsor, the province of Ontario, some kinda Frenchy-Canadian flag and the Canadian national flag.

    Apparently there there are _hundreds_ of requests per year to the city to
    fly this or that flag and of course the people whose requests are denied,
    get all mad and claim racism/homophobia/sexism/botulism, etc and so on.

    That should be the policy of ALL levels of government. I'm sick and
    tired of government pandering to the various groups that want their
    flags flown. It inevitably has an air of favouritism or endorsement of
    that groups views, whether it be the Rainbow Mafia, the pro-Hamas crowd,
    or whatever. Government should not be seen as favouring one faction or
    another but of serving ALL of its citizens neutrally.

    It's a pain in the ass and the city don't want to deal with it anymore.

    https://i.postimg.cc/cCqmsFh7/temp-Image-Pl-KL5-G.avif


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  • From Rhino@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jun 20 03:10:08 2025

    On 2025-06-18 10:23 PM, danny burstein wrote:
    In <1750299359-1263@newsgrouper.org> Ed Stasiak <user1263@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:

    [snip]

    Heard on the radio and that the city of Windsor Canada (just to the south
    of Detroit)

    wait a second. Isn't Canada *north* of the "48 States"? (Yeah,
    Alaska and Hawaii are outliers).

    Next you'll tell us to get from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean
    via the Panama Canal you head _eastward_....

    There are some anomalies associated with our joint border.

    For example, many Americans think of the border as being essentially the
    49th parallel but that is only true from roughly Winnipeg to the
    Pacific; east of there, the border is somewhat further south, with a
    line roughly down the middle of the Great Lakes being the border in most
    of Ontario. The southernmost point of Ontario (and Canada), Point Pelee,
    is at the same latitude as Northern California.

    Certain border crossing points are also surprising. Windsor and Detroit
    are separated by a river that basically runs north-south so when you
    cross the border on either of the bridges or the tunnel, you are
    travelling east to west when going from Windsor to Detroit, not
    north-south as you would expect.

    The Peace Bridge from Fort Erie, Ontario to Buffalo is essentially the
    same deal. The Niagara River runs north-south at that point so a trip
    from Fort Erie to Buffalo is west to east.

    The Rainbow Bridge from Niagara Falls, Ontario to Buffalo is diagonal so
    it's essentially northwest to southeast.

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  • From danny burstein@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jun 20 03:21:24 2025
    In <1031g9t$dvf$2@dont-email.me> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> writes:

    [snip[

    Certain border crossing points are also surprising. Windsor and Detroit
    are separated by a river that basically runs north-south so when you
    cross the border on either of the bridges or the tunnel, you are
    travelling east to west when going from Windsor to Detroit, not
    north-south as you would expect.

    "either of the bridges"????? Counting the days until Gordie Howe opens...


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  • From Rhino@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jun 20 04:13:59 2025
    On 2025-06-19 1:21 PM, danny burstein wrote:
    In <1031g9t$dvf$2@dont-email.me> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> writes:

    [snip[

    Certain border crossing points are also surprising. Windsor and Detroit
    are separated by a river that basically runs north-south so when you
    cross the border on either of the bridges or the tunnel, you are
    travelling east to west when going from Windsor to Detroit, not
    north-south as you would expect.

    "either of the bridges"????? Counting the days until Gordie Howe opens...



    My mistake, I thought the Gordie Howe bridge had already opened.

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  • From danny burstein@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jun 20 04:57:37 2025
    In <1031k1k$dvf$3@dont-email.me> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> writes:

    On 2025-06-19 1:21 PM, danny burstein wrote:
    In <1031g9t$dvf$2@dont-email.me> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> writes:
    [snip[

    Certain border crossing points are also surprising. Windsor and Detroit
    are separated by a river that basically runs north-south so when you
    cross the border on either of the bridges or the tunnel, you are
    travelling east to west when going from Windsor to Detroit, not
    north-south as you would expect.

    "either of the bridges"????? Counting the days until Gordie Howe opens...

    My mistake, I thought the Gordie Howe bridge had already opened.

    There are a bunch of overhead signs on Canada's (?401?) highway
    approaching Windsor which are a combination of sheet metal on
    the left and LED displays on the right.

    The printed side says (roughly, and in both English
    and French [I'm just doing English])

    "Time to crossings:
    "Tunnel:
    "Ambassador Bridge:
    "Gordie Howe Bridge:"

    And the LED side would have,
    to just make up an example,
    "10 minutes
    "12 minutes
    "11 minutes"

    Right now (well, a few weeks ago...) the
    illuminted side simply said "testing".

    I've written to both the Ottowa minister
    of highwys (or whatever his title is...)
    and to the bridge authority office in
    the States begging them to activate
    the LEDs and have them display:

    "10 minutes
    "12 minutes
    "six months"

    Got a boiler plate response from the
    bridge folk that they'd consider it.

    Nothing back from the Canadian minister...


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  • From danny burstein@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jun 20 08:21:14 2025
    In <1031mj1$dnk$1@reader2.panix.com> danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> writes:

    [snip]

    I've written to both the Ottowa minister
    of highwys (or whatever his title is...)
    and to the bridge authority office in
    the States begging them to activate
    the LEDs and have them display:

    here's the letter I sent the Canadian minister.
    Afraid I can't attach the image.
    =====
    While traveling across the 401 earlier this month we saw a sign,
    image attached, which will soon be giving delays at the border
    via the bridges (plural!!!) and tunnel between Windsor and Detroit.
    When we saw the "Gordie Howe" listing, we smiled as this was yet
    another indication the bridge will soon be here.

    Well, the current schedule is September, 2025. Which is still a long
    way off, but construction is definitely proceeding.

    Hence, might I make a suggestion which will certainly draw smiles
    from travelers: As soon as the sign is operational, activate it
    with (as example): "via tunnel: 15 minutes".
    "Ambassador Bridge: 20 minutes".
    And finally: "Gordie Howe Bridge: 8 months!: (I'd recommend
    the exclamation point).

    Thank you for your attention. Sincerely,


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  • From Rhino@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Jun 21 00:40:37 2025
    On 2025-06-19 2:57 p.m., danny burstein wrote:
    In <1031k1k$dvf$3@dont-email.me> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> writes:

    On 2025-06-19 1:21 PM, danny burstein wrote:
    In <1031g9t$dvf$2@dont-email.me> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> writes:
    [snip[

    Certain border crossing points are also surprising. Windsor and Detroit >>>> are separated by a river that basically runs north-south so when you
    cross the border on either of the bridges or the tunnel, you are
    travelling east to west when going from Windsor to Detroit, not
    north-south as you would expect.

    "either of the bridges"????? Counting the days until Gordie Howe opens...

    My mistake, I thought the Gordie Howe bridge had already opened.

    There are a bunch of overhead signs on Canada's (?401?) highway
    approaching Windsor which are a combination of sheet metal on
    the left and LED displays on the right.

    The printed side says (roughly, and in both English
    and French [I'm just doing English])

    "Time to crossings:
    "Tunnel:
    "Ambassador Bridge:
    "Gordie Howe Bridge:"

    And the LED side would have,
    to just make up an example,
    "10 minutes
    "12 minutes
    "11 minutes"

    Right now (well, a few weeks ago...) the
    illuminted side simply said "testing".

    I've written to both the Ottowa minister
    of highwys (or whatever his title is...)
    and to the bridge authority office in
    the States begging them to activate
    the LEDs and have them display:

    Roads and highways are a matter for the provincial government in
    Toronto, not the federal government in Ottawa. Mind you, there must be
    *some* federal involvement in the Gordie Howe bridge since it is a
    border crossing but I doubt it extends to signage....

    You should try writing to the Ministry of Transportation (MTO) in Toronto.

    "10 minutes
    "12 minutes
    "six months"

    I saw a video a few months back showing the final spans of the bridge
    being joined in the middle and assumed from that that it would be a few
    weeks until the bridge was ready to use but it seems I was
    overoptimistic. Apparently, completion is set for September (2025) which traffic projected to begin a bit later in the fall. I can't find any
    more specific dates than that. I'm not sure why they'd wait more than a
    few days to actually operate the bridge after it was complete given that
    it would generate money immediately to start paying for itself.

    Got a boiler plate response from the
    bridge folk that they'd consider it.

    Nothing back from the Canadian minister...

    Our federal civil service has grown by leaps and bounds under the past
    decade of Liberal (mis)management but they still don't do anything
    quickly....


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  • From Rhino@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Jun 21 00:51:31 2025
    On 2025-06-19 6:21 p.m., danny burstein wrote:
    In <1031mj1$dnk$1@reader2.panix.com> danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> writes:

    [snip]

    I've written to both the Ottowa minister
    of highwys (or whatever his title is...)
    and to the bridge authority office in
    the States begging them to activate
    the LEDs and have them display:

    here's the letter I sent the Canadian minister.
    Afraid I can't attach the image.
    =====
    While traveling across the 401 earlier this month we saw a sign,
    image attached, which will soon be giving delays at the border
    via the bridges (plural!!!) and tunnel between Windsor and Detroit.
    When we saw the "Gordie Howe" listing, we smiled as this was yet
    another indication the bridge will soon be here.

    Well, the current schedule is September, 2025. Which is still a long
    way off, but construction is definitely proceeding.

    Hence, might I make a suggestion which will certainly draw smiles
    from travelers: As soon as the sign is operational, activate it
    with (as example): "via tunnel: 15 minutes".
    "Ambassador Bridge: 20 minutes".
    And finally: "Gordie Howe Bridge: 8 months!: (I'd recommend
    the exclamation point).

    Thank you for your attention. Sincerely,


    If our bureaucrats were human, they ought to get a chuckle out of your suggestion. Then again, bureaucrats are rarely human, mostly just
    automatons enforcing their silly policies and I'm sure exhibiting a
    sense of humour is highly discouraged as being "unprofessional". Still,
    I'm giving you an "A" for Effort :-)
    --
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  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jun 27 03:25:26 2025
    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 03:08:53 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    https://ibb.co/RknV5xzr

    Misdemeanor charge + $2000 fine

    https://ibb.co/SD6RcDVp

    Man in Rhode Island was arrested after he allegedly made a skid mark on a >Pride Rainbow crosswalk with his car.

    The city allowing a "pride" crosswalk in the first place is a 1A violation. If >I asked for a permit to paint an anti-troon mural in the crosswalk (or a >pro-gun/2A message), I bet they wouldn't give me one. The government is >allowing some political and social messages but not others based on their own >politics.

    Where are the DOJ lawsuits against rainbow murals being painted on city >streets (to the exclusion of all other non-'progressive' messages) and then >treated like religious icons?

    In our municipality all the libraries have a 'pride' crosswalk outside
    their main entrance. The neighboring municipality has one just outside
    city hall.

    Given the state of disrepair of the 'pride' crosswalk near our local
    library it's amazing somebody hasn't brought suit for 'disrespect' -
    apparently the sort of salt used on the roads during icy winter
    conditions is brutal to that kind of road paint.....obviously in late
    June they've had time to repaint it had they chosen to.

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  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jun 27 03:26:27 2025
    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:05:17 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    Washington, from three-thousand miles away, may feel easier to ignore
    than one's own pissed-off neighborhood.

    You presumably mean Washington state - where specifically?

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  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jun 27 03:32:07 2025
    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 13:10:08 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    For example, many Americans think of the border as being essentially the >49th parallel but that is only true from roughly Winnipeg to the
    Pacific; east of there, the border is somewhat further south, with a
    line roughly down the middle of the Great Lakes being the border in most
    of Ontario. The southernmost point of Ontario (and Canada), Point Pelee,
    is at the same latitude as Northern California.

    Yup - in fact one of the more surprising pieces of trivia about Canada
    is that a little over 50% of the Canadian population live south of 49N
    - it's NOT a big majority but it's a majority.

    Most of it of course is in the metro Toronto area and immediate
    surroundings. As opposed to folks like me who live roughly 30-40 miles
    N of the 49th out west.

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  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jun 27 03:59:25 2025
    On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 10:40:37 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    Roads and highways are a matter for the provincial government in
    Toronto, not the federal government in Ottawa. Mind you, there must be >*some* federal involvement in the Gordie Howe bridge since it is a
    border crossing but I doubt it extends to signage....

    You certain about that? Because once you get into the border portion
    of the 3 border crossings I know in the Vancouver area (not counting
    the airport which is another) all the signs are definitely NOT
    provincial signs.

    My understanding is the main Canadian federal government involvement
    on bridges over international boundaries are financial in the form of
    grants to the provincial highway departments. BC misses out since
    there are no crossings from BC to the US other than roads or ferries.
    (All our crossings are either by road or salt water)

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  • From moviePig@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jun 27 04:50:36 2025
    On 6/26/2025 1:26 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:05:17 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    Washington, from three-thousand miles away, may feel easier to ignore
    than one's own pissed-off neighborhood.

    You presumably mean Washington state - where specifically?

    DC (i.e., the importuning Federal govt.) is 3k miles from CA.

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jun 27 05:36:00 2025
    On Jun 17, 2025 at 8:08:53 PM PDT, "BTR1701" <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    https://ibb.co/RknV5xzr

    Misdemeanor charge + $2000 fine

    https://ibb.co/SD6RcDVp

    Man in Rhode Island was arrested after he allegedly made a skid mark on a Pride Rainbow crosswalk with his car.

    The city allowing a "pride" crosswalk in the first place is a 1A violation. If
    I asked for a permit to paint an anti-troon mural in the crosswalk (or a pro-gun/2A message), I bet they wouldn't give me one. The government is allowing some political and social messages but not others based on their own politics.

    Where are the DOJ lawsuits against rainbow murals being painted on city streets (to the exclusion of all other non-'progressive' messages) and then treated like religious icons?


    It's happened again.


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1937932161073463297/vid/avc1/1080x1920/6o-22WzrJXx4UGjG.mp4

    Teenagers rip up some rainbow flags. Four are arrested and, according to the Atlanta PD, a manhunt-- yes, you read that right-- is on for the other two.

    My first question is, of course, arrested for what?

    Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989). The Supreme Court ruled that flag desecration is protected speech under the 1st Amendment: "It's both symbolic speech and political speech."

    If it's legal to desecrate the U.S. flag, it's legal to desecrate the flag of the Password People.

    "But wait," the apologists like FPP will say, "It's not legal to destroy something that doesn't belong to you. These kids took those flags off the streetlight poles! That's a crime!"

    While this may be true, it's a crime that's strangely only enforced against people hostile to the 'progressive' Agenda:

    Anti-ICE protester pulls down a U.S. flag from a government pole and burns it: no consequences.

    Teenager pulls down a gay Rainbow Mafia flag from a government pole and rips
    it up: straight to prison.



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  • From moviePig@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jun 27 07:22:51 2025
    On 6/26/2025 3:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jun 17, 2025 at 8:08:53 PM PDT, "BTR1701" <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    https://ibb.co/RknV5xzr

    Misdemeanor charge + $2000 fine

    https://ibb.co/SD6RcDVp

    Man in Rhode Island was arrested after he allegedly made a skid mark on a
    Pride Rainbow crosswalk with his car.

    The city allowing a "pride" crosswalk in the first place is a 1A violation. >> If
    I asked for a permit to paint an anti-troon mural in the crosswalk (or a
    pro-gun/2A message), I bet they wouldn't give me one. The government is
    allowing some political and social messages but not others based on their own
    politics.

    Where are the DOJ lawsuits against rainbow murals being painted on city
    streets (to the exclusion of all other non-'progressive' messages) and then >> treated like religious icons?


    It's happened again.


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1937932161073463297/vid/avc1/1080x1920/6o-22WzrJXx4UGjG.mp4

    Teenagers rip up some rainbow flags. Four are arrested and, according to the Atlanta PD, a manhunt-- yes, you read that right-- is on for the other two.

    My first question is, of course, arrested for what?

    Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989). The Supreme Court ruled that flag desecration is protected speech under the 1st Amendment: "It's both symbolic speech and political speech."

    If it's legal to desecrate the U.S. flag, it's legal to desecrate the flag of the Password People.

    "But wait," the apologists like FPP will say, "It's not legal to destroy something that doesn't belong to you. These kids took those flags off the streetlight poles! That's a crime!"

    While this may be true, it's a crime that's strangely only enforced against people hostile to the 'progressive' Agenda:

    Anti-ICE protester pulls down a U.S. flag from a government pole and burns it:
    no consequences.

    Teenager pulls down a gay Rainbow Mafia flag from a government pole and rips it up: straight to prison.

    Afaics, FPP is present only in your recall. But, no, it's not legal to
    burn the U.S. flag in a fireworks factory. Your rainbow-burning teen
    would've been charged with a hate crime, not property destruction.



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  • From BTR1701@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jun 27 08:33:27 2025
    On Jun 26, 2025 at 2:22:51 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 6/26/2025 3:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jun 17, 2025 at 8:08:53 PM PDT, "BTR1701" <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    https://ibb.co/RknV5xzr

    Misdemeanor charge + $2000 fine

    https://ibb.co/SD6RcDVp

    Man in Rhode Island was arrested after he allegedly made a skid mark on a >>> Pride Rainbow crosswalk with his car.

    The city allowing a "pride" crosswalk in the first place is a 1A violation.
    If
    I asked for a permit to paint an anti-troon mural in the crosswalk (or a >>> pro-gun/2A message), I bet they wouldn't give me one. The government is >>> allowing some political and social messages but not others based on their >>> own
    politics.

    Where are the DOJ lawsuits against rainbow murals being painted on city >>> streets (to the exclusion of all other non-'progressive' messages) and then
    treated like religious icons?

    It's happened again.


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1937932161073463297/vid/avc1/1080x1920/6o-22WzrJXx4UGjG.mp4

    Teenagers rip up some rainbow flags. Four are arrested and, according to the
    Atlanta PD, a manhunt-- yes, you read that right-- is on for the other two. >>
    My first question is, of course, arrested for what?

    Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989). The Supreme Court ruled that flag
    desecration is protected speech under the 1st Amendment: "It's both symbolic
    speech and political speech."

    If it's legal to desecrate the U.S. flag, it's legal to desecrate the flag >> of
    the Password People.

    "But wait," the apologists like FPP will say, "It's not legal to destroy
    something that doesn't belong to you. These kids took those flags off the >> streetlight poles! That's a crime!"

    While this may be true, it's a crime that's strangely only enforced against >> people hostile to the 'progressive' Agenda:

    Anti-ICE protester pulls down a U.S. flag from a government pole and burns >> it:
    no consequences.

    Teenager pulls down a gay Rainbow Mafia flag from a government pole and rips
    it up: straight to prison.

    Afaics, FPP is present only in your recall.

    No, I've got a digital archive of all my posts. My newsreader auto-copies
    every post I make into a text document on my computer. That necessarily means
    I have a whole lot of FPP's claims saved as well, quoted in posts in which I responded to him.

    But, no, it's not legal to burn the U.S. flag in a fireworks factory. Your rainbow-burning teen
    would've been charged with a hate crime, not property destruction.

    He can't be charged with only a hate crime. Hate crime is an enhancement to a predicate crime. One has to be charged with a crime first and only then can
    the hate enhancement be applied. But nevertheless, the enhancement is for the speech, the thought, the emotion, therefore speech is being prosecuted. The extra punishment you get over and above what you would get for the theft of
    the flag alone is punishment for your speech, which should not be allowed
    under the 1st Amendment.



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