• What Did You Watch? 2024-12-18 (Wednesday)

    From Ian J. Ball@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Dec 20 02:50:04 2024
    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then
    did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got through:

    soaps: Y&R - Mon's ep. Billy tells Filis[sic!] his Revenge! plot against Victor; Filis balks at getting involved because of her kids - I wasn't
    sure if she agreed to participate or not. Sharon gets hypnotized by
    Traci's boyfriend, and remembers that she didn't run Filis off the road.
    Ian Ward eavesdrops on a conversation between Claire and Mariah & Tessa,
    while Aunt Jordan remembers back to when Ian Ward reeled her in on his Revenge! plot.
    GH - Tue's ep. Bitch Carly wants Revenge!! on Drew (and Willow), but
    Jason tries to talk her down from that. Willow is working some public
    charity thing for Jordan, and of course Drew stops by to see her,
    witnessed by both a visibly displeased Jordan, and by Felicia. Nina,
    with Ava present, discusses Willow's upcoming potential divorce and
    custody case with lawyer Martin Gray. Curtis and Michael implement their
    plan to eject Drew from Aurora co., but Curtis gets it in writing from
    Michael up front. Despondent Josslyn discusses her grief with Trina, who understands the situation intimately because of Spencer's death.
    DOOL - Tue's ep. Mostly stuff about Cat and her family, or Chad with
    Jack and Jennifer, and I really don't care much. NuGabi is already
    starting to work on seducing JJ - this girl's libido won't quit!!

    Broken Innocence (Tubi) - This 2024 effort is one of those flicks that
    gets you to wonder - if this film had had a budget, a better script, and better actors and better direction, would it have been a "good film"?
    The actress, Arianna Harris, who plays the lead teen victim I
    actually thought was mostly good here (and likely would have been better
    with some actual direction), and is a bit of a find. I also liked BJ
    Mezek who played the unflappable shrink.
    But I thought the actors who played the parents were not good, which
    was a problem, as the film sort of resolves around those two characters.
    And a lot of the supporting cast wasn't good either. (This was filmed in Kentucky, and felt like much of the cast were locals...)
    If nothing else, this film did get me to think/wonder - why don't
    more long-term incest victims snap and go homicidal?
    But, as it was, I was never clear on what the homicidal teen
    victim's plan actually was (did she have a plan?!), though I guess her
    plan falls apart at the end, anyway. Still, a better script would have
    made this clearer.
    Anyway, while I mostly liked the lead's performance, and the lead character's journey, overall I would say this was not a very good film,
    and probably could/should(?) have been a lot better.


    What did you watch?



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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Dec 20 07:57:42 2024
    In article <vk1fbc$2tcju$1@dont-email.me>, ijball@mac.invalid wrote:

    What did you watch?

    Pop Culture Breakdown | Disney CUTS Woke | Snow White Hits 1.4 Million Dislikes | Nightmare B4 Xmas

    Pop Culture Breakdown returns as we discuss Disney cutting a transgender storyline from a Pixar's kid's show, Snow White trailer approaches 1.4
    million downvotes according to Breitbart, we'll have reviews of Star Wars Skeleton Crew and James Gunn's Creature Commandos, and our Xmas movie of
    the week is the classic Nightmare Before Christmas! Join our panel of
    pop culture pundits as we break down the highs and lows of the week!

    https://www.youtube.com/live/LtWpIMPqv5k?si=BzLomhfjx13uA6tg

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Dec 20 08:39:09 2024
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then
    did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got through:



    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    THE DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS on The Plex

    Howard Keel plays one of the few sighted people in a world of the blind threatened by poison spitting mobile carnivorous plants. It held up a lot better than I thought it would.

    They changed it a lot from the book which may have been for the better
    because there aren’t really many answers either way. A mysterious meteor shower leaves the world blind. Conspiracy theorists think it was some sort
    of Russian weapon that went wrong and got everybody.
    In the book, Triffids are known to the world and kept in pens for as I
    recall their oil. And their poison sacks are kept clipped. With the world
    gone blind there’s nothing to keep them from escaping and wackiness
    ensuing. In the movie, they just appear out of nowhere after the meteor shower. It’s hard to imagine these two events as being accidental and unconnected. But there are no answers to be had just efforts to survive.

    Meanwhile, Janette Scott (yes, from Rocky Horror Picture Show) and her real life husband who starred in together in CRACK IN THE WORLD, are trapped in
    a lighthouse and besieged by the Triffids. At the end, he turns the fire
    hose on them because he’s run out of things to throw, and it turns out that seawater disintegrates them. Well, that was an easy fix!




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  • From suzeeq@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Dec 20 11:28:32 2024
    On 12/19/2024 1:39 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then
    did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got
    through:



    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    THE DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS on The Plex

    Howard Keel plays one of the few sighted people in a world of the blind threatened by poison spitting mobile carnivorous plants. It held up a lot better than I thought it would.

    They changed it a lot from the book which may have been for the better because there aren’t really many answers either way. A mysterious meteor shower leaves the world blind. Conspiracy theorists think it was some sort
    of Russian weapon that went wrong and got everybody.
    In the book, Triffids are known to the world and kept in pens for as I
    recall their oil. And their poison sacks are kept clipped. With the world gone blind there’s nothing to keep them from escaping and wackiness ensuing. In the movie, they just appear out of nowhere after the meteor shower. It’s hard to imagine these two events as being accidental and unconnected. But there are no answers to be had just efforts to survive.

    Meanwhile, Janette Scott (yes, from Rocky Horror Picture Show) and her real life husband who starred in together in CRACK IN THE WORLD, are trapped in
    a lighthouse and besieged by the Triffids. At the end, he turns the fire
    hose on them because he’s run out of things to throw, and it turns out that seawater disintegrates them. Well, that was an easy fix!

    Yay, you got to watch something!

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Dec 20 11:54:35 2024
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 1:39 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then
    did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got
    through:



    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    THE DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS on The Plex

    Howard Keel plays one of the few sighted people in a world of the blind
    threatened by poison spitting mobile carnivorous plants. It held up a lot
    better than I thought it would.

    They changed it a lot from the book which may have been for the better
    because there aren’t really many answers either way. A mysterious meteor >> shower leaves the world blind. Conspiracy theorists think it was some sort >> of Russian weapon that went wrong and got everybody.
    In the book, Triffids are known to the world and kept in pens for as I
    recall their oil. And their poison sacks are kept clipped. With the world >> gone blind there’s nothing to keep them from escaping and wackiness
    ensuing. In the movie, they just appear out of nowhere after the meteor
    shower. It’s hard to imagine these two events as being accidental and
    unconnected. But there are no answers to be had just efforts to survive.

    Meanwhile, Janette Scott (yes, from Rocky Horror Picture Show) and her real >> life husband who starred in together in CRACK IN THE WORLD, are trapped in >> a lighthouse and besieged by the Triffids. At the end, he turns the fire
    hose on them because he’s run out of things to throw, and it turns out that
    seawater disintegrates them. Well, that was an easy fix!

    Yay, you got to watch something!


    iPhone, ear buds :)

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  • From Ian J. Ball@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Dec 20 12:15:31 2024
    On 12/19/24 4:54 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 1:39 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then
    did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got >>>> through:

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    THE DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS on The Plex

    Howard Keel plays one of the few sighted people in a world of the blind
    threatened by poison spitting mobile carnivorous plants. It held up a lot >>> better than I thought it would.

    They changed it a lot from the book which may have been for the better
    because there aren’t really many answers either way. A mysterious meteor >>> shower leaves the world blind. Conspiracy theorists think it was some sort >>> of Russian weapon that went wrong and got everybody.
    In the book, Triffids are known to the world and kept in pens for as I
    recall their oil. And their poison sacks are kept clipped. With the world >>> gone blind there’s nothing to keep them from escaping and wackiness
    ensuing. In the movie, they just appear out of nowhere after the meteor >>> shower. It’s hard to imagine these two events as being accidental and
    unconnected. But there are no answers to be had just efforts to survive. >>>
    Meanwhile, Janette Scott (yes, from Rocky Horror Picture Show) and her real >>> life husband who starred in together in CRACK IN THE WORLD, are trapped in >>> a lighthouse and besieged by the Triffids. At the end, he turns the fire >>> hose on them because he’s run out of things to throw, and it turns out that
    seawater disintegrates them. Well, that was an easy fix!

    Yay, you got to watch something!

    iPhone, ear buds :)

    "Baywatch" is on The Tubi! (And a bunch of other places, I'm sure...)



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  • From Arthur Lipscomb@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Dec 20 12:40:12 2024
    On 12/19/2024 5:15 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 12/19/24 4:54 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 1:39 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then >>>>> did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I >>>>> got
    through:

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    THE DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS on The Plex

    Howard Keel

    I thought you meant, "Jaws" at first. I was about to say, I didn't know
    Jaws was in this movie. LOL

    plays one of the few sighted people in a world of the blind
    threatened by poison spitting mobile carnivorous plants. It held up
    a lot
    better than I thought it would.

    They changed it a lot from the book which may have been for the better >>>> because there aren’t really many answers either way. A mysterious
    meteor
    shower leaves the world blind. Conspiracy theorists think it was
    some sort
    of Russian weapon that went wrong and got everybody.
    In the book, Triffids are known to the world and kept in pens for as I >>>> recall their oil.ÿ And their poison sacks are kept clipped. With the
    world
    gone blind there’s nothing to keep them from escaping and wackiness
    ensuing.ÿ In the movie, they just appear out of nowhere after the
    meteor
    shower. It’s hard to imagine these two events as being accidental and >>>> unconnected. But there are no answers to be had just efforts to
    survive.

    Meanwhile, Janette Scott (yes, from Rocky Horror Picture Show)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSSlYwVEMSM

    and
    her real
    life husband who starred in together in CRACK IN THE WORLD, are
    trapped in
    a lighthouse and besieged by the Triffids. At the end, he turns the
    fire
    hose on them because he’s run out of things to throw, and it turns
    out that
    seawater disintegrates them. Well, that was an easy fix!


    I know there are several versions of this movie, but I think I only ever
    saw the old, black and white version. I have *wanted* to see one of the
    newer versions for a while now, but no one is streaming them.

    Yay, you got to watch something!

    iPhone, ear budsÿ :)

    "Baywatch" is on The Tubi! (And a bunch of other places, I'm sure...)



    Baywatch? Are you trying to get him to break his phone?


    This is a two day catch up.

    I watched:

    The Faculty (4K disc) 1998 horror movie directed by Robert Rodriguez and starring a whose who list of late 90s teens who must save the world when
    their high school teachers are taken over by aliens. This movie name
    checks both "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" and "The Puppet Masters,"
    but isn't as good as either.


    Survivor - Season finale. I am happy with who won. Last week I had no
    idea who they were. But given the events of the finale, I'm happy with
    the outcome.

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  • From Arthur Lipscomb@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Dec 20 13:26:46 2024
    On 12/19/2024 7:50 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then
    did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got through:

    soaps: Y&R - Mon's ep. Billy tells Filis[sic!] his Revenge! plot against Victor; Filis balks at getting involved because of her kids - I wasn't
    sure if she agreed to participate or not. Sharon gets hypnotized by
    Traci's boyfriend, and remembers that she didn't run Filis off the road.
    Ian Ward eavesdrops on a conversation between Claire and Mariah & Tessa, while Aunt Jordan remembers back to when Ian Ward reeled her in on his Revenge! plot.
    ÿÿ GH - Tue's ep. Bitch Carly wants Revenge!! on Drew (and Willow), but Jason tries to talk her down from that. Willow is working some public charity thing for Jordan, and of course Drew stops by to see her,
    witnessed by both a visibly displeased Jordan, and by Felicia. Nina,
    with Ava present, discusses Willow's upcoming potential divorce and
    custody case with lawyer Martin Gray. Curtis and Michael implement their plan to eject Drew from Aurora co., but Curtis gets it in writing from Michael up front. Despondent Josslyn discusses her grief with Trina, who understands the situation intimately because of Spencer's death.
    ÿÿ DOOL - Tue's ep. Mostly stuff about Cat and her family, or Chad with Jack and Jennifer, and I really don't care much. NuGabi is already
    starting to work on seducing JJ - this girl's libido won't quit!!

    Broken Innocence (Tubi) - This 2024 effort is one of those flicks that
    gets you to wonder - if this film had had a budget, a better script, and better actors and better direction, would it have been a "good film"?

    I think that question applies to just about every bad movie, and the
    answer is yes.

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  • From shawn@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Dec 20 13:43:34 2024
    On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 17:40:12 -0800, Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

    On 12/19/2024 5:15 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 12/19/24 4:54 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 1:39 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then >>>>>> did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I >>>>>> got
    through:

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    THE DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS on The Plex

    Howard Keel

    I thought you meant, "Jaws" at first. I was about to say, I didn't know >Jaws was in this movie. LOL

    plays one of the few sighted people in a world of the blind
    threatened by poison spitting mobile carnivorous plants. It held up >>>>> a lot
    better than I thought it would.

    They changed it a lot from the book which may have been for the better >>>>> because there aren’t really many answers either way. A mysterious >>>>> meteor
    shower leaves the world blind. Conspiracy theorists think it was
    some sort
    of Russian weapon that went wrong and got everybody.
    In the book, Triffids are known to the world and kept in pens for as I >>>>> recall their oil.ÿ And their poison sacks are kept clipped. With the >>>>> world
    gone blind there’s nothing to keep them from escaping and wackiness >>>>> ensuing.ÿ In the movie, they just appear out of nowhere after the
    meteor
    shower. It’s hard to imagine these two events as being accidental and >>>>> unconnected. But there are no answers to be had just efforts to
    survive.

    Meanwhile, Janette Scott (yes, from Rocky Horror Picture Show)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSSlYwVEMSM

    and
    her real
    life husband who starred in together in CRACK IN THE WORLD, are
    trapped in
    a lighthouse and besieged by the Triffids. At the end, he turns the >>>>> fire
    hose on them because he’s run out of things to throw, and it turns >>>>> out that
    seawater disintegrates them. Well, that was an easy fix!


    I know there are several versions of this movie, but I think I only ever
    saw the old, black and white version. I have *wanted* to see one of the >newer versions for a while now, but no one is streaming them.

    That would be true.. if only it weren't true.. Though it is true for
    those unwilling or unable to look, but those who seek, so shall they
    find..

    First we start with the classic.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBVm4Jsa3fQ

    Then there is a 2009 version
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDVMLCQT4Us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH9FWueZWEY

    How about the audio book version:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFVed5FX8XU


    Or the 1981 BBC version:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REvX97bTvrY


    Another audio book version from 2001 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIHuvCxsdos


    There are yet more that could be listed but that seems like
    enough to prove a point. ;)

    Yay, you got to watch something!

    iPhone, ear budsÿ :)

    Ear buds are a great help.


    "Baywatch" is on The Tubi! (And a bunch of other places, I'm sure...)



    Baywatch? Are you trying to get him to break his phone?


    This is a two day catch up.

    I watched:

    The Faculty (4K disc) 1998 horror movie directed by Robert Rodriguez and >starring a whose who list of late 90s teens who must save the world when >their high school teachers are taken over by aliens. This movie name
    checks both "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" and "The Puppet Masters,"
    but isn't as good as either.

    Ah, but it has Jordana Brewster and Famke Janssen in it.



    Survivor - Season finale. I am happy with who won. Last week I had no
    idea who they were. But given the events of the finale, I'm happy with
    the outcome.

    It was a great ending to a good season. They had a good cast and they
    kept it close till the end. Well, not the very end as the vote was a
    bit of a land slide. LOL. Other than the one person who clearly only
    voted for the person they liked the most and not on game play (or as
    some suggested they voted clearly on the gender of the winner.)


    As for me.. I watched the SURVIVOR finale and finished off the SECRET
    LEVEL episodes. Great little series with pretty good stories in a
    short show. Some wouldn't work if the episode were any longer but as
    was it was good enough. Looking at you, Spelunky.

    Ah, I also watched the latest episode of FBI MOST WANTED which had the
    team going after the dumbest group of bad cops I've seen. Cops that
    decided the best way to stop crime was to kill off the bad guys as did
    David Crosby when facing off against Dirty Harry. Only they decide to
    double down once the FBI shows up and prove how tough they are by
    trying to run the FBI out of town. It does not go well for them.

    What did you watch?

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  • From Arthur Lipscomb@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Dec 20 14:33:03 2024
    On 12/19/2024 6:43 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 17:40:12 -0800, Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

    On 12/19/2024 5:15 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 12/19/24 4:54 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 1:39 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then >>>>>>> did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I >>>>>>> got
    through:

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    THE DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS on The Plex

    Howard Keel

    I thought you meant, "Jaws" at first. I was about to say, I didn't know
    Jaws was in this movie. LOL

    plays one of the few sighted people in a world of the blind
    threatened by poison spitting mobile carnivorous plants. It held up >>>>>> a lot
    better than I thought it would.

    They changed it a lot from the book which may have been for the better >>>>>> because there aren’t really many answers either way. A mysterious >>>>>> meteor
    shower leaves the world blind. Conspiracy theorists think it was
    some sort
    of Russian weapon that went wrong and got everybody.
    In the book, Triffids are known to the world and kept in pens for as I >>>>>> recall their oil.ÿ And their poison sacks are kept clipped. With the >>>>>> world
    gone blind there’s nothing to keep them from escaping and wackiness >>>>>> ensuing.ÿ In the movie, they just appear out of nowhere after the
    meteor
    shower. It’s hard to imagine these two events as being accidental and >>>>>> unconnected. But there are no answers to be had just efforts to
    survive.

    Meanwhile, Janette Scott (yes, from Rocky Horror Picture Show)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSSlYwVEMSM

    and
    her real
    life husband who starred in together in CRACK IN THE WORLD, are
    trapped in
    a lighthouse and besieged by the Triffids. At the end, he turns the >>>>>> fire
    hose on them because he’s run out of things to throw, and it turns >>>>>> out that
    seawater disintegrates them. Well, that was an easy fix!


    I know there are several versions of this movie, but I think I only ever
    saw the old, black and white version. I have *wanted* to see one of the
    newer versions for a while now, but no one is streaming them.

    That would be true.. if only it weren't true..

    Youtube never even crossed my mind! LOL. But thanks for the links. I
    think I'll book mark the links and the next time I'm in a hotel room
    with nothing to watch, that might be a good time to finally check out
    the new version.

    Though it is true for
    those unwilling or unable to look, but those who seek, so shall they
    find..

    First we start with the classic.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBVm4Jsa3fQ

    Then there is a 2009 version
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDVMLCQT4Us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH9FWueZWEY

    How about the audio book version:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFVed5FX8XU


    Or the 1981 BBC version:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REvX97bTvrY


    Another audio book version from 2001 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIHuvCxsdos


    There are yet more that could be listed but that seems like
    enough to prove a point. ;)

    Yay, you got to watch something!

    iPhone, ear budsÿ :)

    Ear buds are a great help.


    "Baywatch" is on The Tubi! (And a bunch of other places, I'm sure...)



    Baywatch? Are you trying to get him to break his phone?


    This is a two day catch up.

    I watched:

    The Faculty (4K disc) 1998 horror movie directed by Robert Rodriguez and
    starring a whose who list of late 90s teens who must save the world when
    their high school teachers are taken over by aliens. This movie name
    checks both "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" and "The Puppet Masters,"
    but isn't as good as either.

    Ah, but it has Jordana Brewster and Famke Janssen in it.



    Survivor - Season finale. I am happy with who won. Last week I had no
    idea who they were. But given the events of the finale, I'm happy with
    the outcome.

    It was a great ending to a good season. They had a good cast and they
    kept it close till the end. Well, not the very end as the vote was a
    bit of a land slide. LOL. Other than the one person who clearly only
    voted for the person they liked the most and not on game play (or as
    some suggested they voted clearly on the gender of the winner.)


    As for me.. I watched the SURVIVOR finale and finished off the SECRET
    LEVEL episodes. Great little series with pretty good stories in a
    short show. Some wouldn't work if the episode were any longer but as
    was it was good enough. Looking at you, Spelunky.


    That reminds me, I need to finish watching Secret Level.


    Ah, I also watched the latest episode of FBI MOST WANTED which had the
    team going after the dumbest group of bad cops I've seen. Cops that
    decided the best way to stop crime was to kill off the bad guys as did
    David Crosby when facing off against Dirty Harry. Only they decide to
    double down once the FBI shows up and prove how tough they are by
    trying to run the FBI out of town. It does not go well for them.

    What did you watch?


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  • From Arthur Lipscomb@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Dec 20 14:33:20 2024
    On 12/19/2024 6:43 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 17:40:12 -0800, Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

    On 12/19/2024 5:15 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 12/19/24 4:54 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 1:39 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then >>>>>>> did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I >>>>>>> got
    through:

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    THE DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS on The Plex

    Howard Keel

    I thought you meant, "Jaws" at first. I was about to say, I didn't know
    Jaws was in this movie. LOL

    plays one of the few sighted people in a world of the blind
    threatened by poison spitting mobile carnivorous plants. It held up >>>>>> a lot
    better than I thought it would.

    They changed it a lot from the book which may have been for the better >>>>>> because there aren’t really many answers either way. A mysterious >>>>>> meteor
    shower leaves the world blind. Conspiracy theorists think it was
    some sort
    of Russian weapon that went wrong and got everybody.
    In the book, Triffids are known to the world and kept in pens for as I >>>>>> recall their oil.ÿ And their poison sacks are kept clipped. With the >>>>>> world
    gone blind there’s nothing to keep them from escaping and wackiness >>>>>> ensuing.ÿ In the movie, they just appear out of nowhere after the
    meteor
    shower. It’s hard to imagine these two events as being accidental and >>>>>> unconnected. But there are no answers to be had just efforts to
    survive.

    Meanwhile, Janette Scott (yes, from Rocky Horror Picture Show)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSSlYwVEMSM

    and
    her real
    life husband who starred in together in CRACK IN THE WORLD, are
    trapped in
    a lighthouse and besieged by the Triffids. At the end, he turns the >>>>>> fire
    hose on them because he’s run out of things to throw, and it turns >>>>>> out that
    seawater disintegrates them. Well, that was an easy fix!


    I know there are several versions of this movie, but I think I only ever
    saw the old, black and white version. I have *wanted* to see one of the
    newer versions for a while now, but no one is streaming them.

    That would be true.. if only it weren't true..

    Youtube never even crossed my mind! LOL. But thanks for the links. I
    think I'll book mark the links and the next time I'm in a hotel room
    with nothing to watch, that might be a good time to finally check out
    the new version.

    Though it is true for
    those unwilling or unable to look, but those who seek, so shall they
    find..

    First we start with the classic.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBVm4Jsa3fQ

    Then there is a 2009 version
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDVMLCQT4Us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH9FWueZWEY

    How about the audio book version:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFVed5FX8XU


    Or the 1981 BBC version:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REvX97bTvrY


    Another audio book version from 2001 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIHuvCxsdos


    There are yet more that could be listed but that seems like
    enough to prove a point. ;)

    Yay, you got to watch something!

    iPhone, ear budsÿ :)

    Ear buds are a great help.


    "Baywatch" is on The Tubi! (And a bunch of other places, I'm sure...)



    Baywatch? Are you trying to get him to break his phone?


    This is a two day catch up.

    I watched:

    The Faculty (4K disc) 1998 horror movie directed by Robert Rodriguez and
    starring a whose who list of late 90s teens who must save the world when
    their high school teachers are taken over by aliens. This movie name
    checks both "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" and "The Puppet Masters,"
    but isn't as good as either.

    Ah, but it has Jordana Brewster and Famke Janssen in it.



    Survivor - Season finale. I am happy with who won. Last week I had no
    idea who they were. But given the events of the finale, I'm happy with
    the outcome.

    It was a great ending to a good season. They had a good cast and they
    kept it close till the end. Well, not the very end as the vote was a
    bit of a land slide. LOL. Other than the one person who clearly only
    voted for the person they liked the most and not on game play (or as
    some suggested they voted clearly on the gender of the winner.)


    As for me.. I watched the SURVIVOR finale and finished off the SECRET
    LEVEL episodes. Great little series with pretty good stories in a
    short show. Some wouldn't work if the episode were any longer but as
    was it was good enough. Looking at you, Spelunky.


    That reminds me, I need to finish watching Secret Level.


    Ah, I also watched the latest episode of FBI MOST WANTED which had the
    team going after the dumbest group of bad cops I've seen. Cops that
    decided the best way to stop crime was to kill off the bad guys as did
    David Crosby when facing off against Dirty Harry. Only they decide to
    double down once the FBI shows up and prove how tough they are by
    trying to run the FBI out of town. It does not go well for them.

    What did you watch?


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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Dec 20 20:30:41 2024
    In article vk1fbc$2tcju$1@dont-email.me, ijball@mac.invalid wrote:

    What did you watch?

    POP CULTURE BREAKDOWN | DISNEY CUTS WOKE | SNOW WHITE HITS 1.4 MILLION DISLIKES | NIGHTMARE B4 XMAS

    Pop Culture Breakdown returns as we discuss Disney cutting a transgender storyline from a Pixar's kid's show, Snow White trailer approaches 1.4
    million downvotes according to Breitbart, we'll have reviews of Star Wars Skeleton Crew and James Gunn's Creature Commandos, and our Xmas movie of
    the week is the classic Nightmare Before Christmas! Join our panel of pop culture pundits as we break down the highs and lows of the week!

    https://www.youtube.com/live/LtWpIMPqv5k?si=4y8jPYYhY8Cu9d9G

    LIBERAL CALLS FOR UPRISING TO STOP TRUMP INAUGURATION, THE LEFT IS SUPPORTING EXTREMISM AND VIOLENCE
    Liberal Calls For UPRISING To STOP Trump Inauguration, The Left Is SUPPORTING Extremism And Violence
    https://youtu.be/DwkrDk3-hsM?si=NUXyIRh0EMUFrUpD

    It'S aN iNsUrReCtOn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!eleventy-eleven!!

    DISNEY GOES SANE | CUTS TRANSGENDER CONTENT IN PIXAR'S "WIN OR LOSE", DEFERS TO PARENTS IN STATEMENT
    Disney has forced Pixar to cut a transgender storyline aimed at young kids
    in their "Win or Lose" animated series, and in a statement Disney actually deferred to parental control of their children's content! Sources are
    telling me this may be the first crack in Hollywood's DEI dam, an acknowledgement that as far as mainstream audiences go, the times they are a'changing! Here's what I've heard! #disney #pixar, #disneyplus

    https://youtu.be/dc_qrIjT08w?si=cOnAG819bUihCnms

    What did you watch?

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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Dec 20 20:30:42 2024
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    THE DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS on The Plex

    Howard Keel plays one of the few sighted people in a world of the blind >threatened by poison spitting mobile carnivorous plants. It held up a lot >better than I thought it would.

    What was Captain Kirk doing about it?

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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Dec 20 20:30:43 2024
    In article <vk2gfj$33uoc$1@dont-email.me>, ijball@mac.invalid wrote:
    On 12/19/24 4:54 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:

    Yay, you got to watch something!

    iPhone, ear buds :)

    "Baywatch" is on The Tubi! (And a bunch of other places, I'm sure...)

    Screw that. Watch "Baywatch Nights".

    --
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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Dec 20 20:30:44 2024
    In article <vk2hts$343c1$1@dont-email.me>, arthur@alum.calberkeley.org wrote:

    I watched:

    The Faculty (4K disc) 1998 horror movie directed by Robert Rodriguez and >starring a whose who list

    The expression is "who's who".

    --
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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Dec 21 12:29:18 2024
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 12/19/24 4:54 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 1:39 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then >>>>> did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got >>>>> through:

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    THE DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS on The Plex

    Howard Keel plays one of the few sighted people in a world of the blind >>>> threatened by poison spitting mobile carnivorous plants. It held up a lot >>>> better than I thought it would.

    They changed it a lot from the book which may have been for the better >>>> because there aren’t really many answers either way. A mysterious meteor >>>> shower leaves the world blind. Conspiracy theorists think it was some sort >>>> of Russian weapon that went wrong and got everybody.
    In the book, Triffids are known to the world and kept in pens for as I >>>> recall their oil. And their poison sacks are kept clipped. With the world >>>> gone blind there’s nothing to keep them from escaping and wackiness
    ensuing. In the movie, they just appear out of nowhere after the meteor >>>> shower. It’s hard to imagine these two events as being accidental and >>>> unconnected. But there are no answers to be had just efforts to survive. >>>>
    Meanwhile, Janette Scott (yes, from Rocky Horror Picture Show) and her real
    life husband who starred in together in CRACK IN THE WORLD, are trapped in >>>> a lighthouse and besieged by the Triffids. At the end, he turns the fire >>>> hose on them because he’s run out of things to throw, and it turns out that
    seawater disintegrates them. Well, that was an easy fix!

    Yay, you got to watch something!

    iPhone, ear buds :)

    "Baywatch" is on The Tubi! (And a bunch of other places, I'm sure...)


    I’m holding out for Baywatch nights season two

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Dec 21 12:29:19 2024
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 7:50 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then
    did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got
    through:

    soaps: Y&R - Mon's ep. Billy tells Filis[sic!] his Revenge! plot against
    Victor; Filis balks at getting involved because of her kids - I wasn't
    sure if she agreed to participate or not. Sharon gets hypnotized by
    Traci's boyfriend, and remembers that she didn't run Filis off the road.
    Ian Ward eavesdrops on a conversation between Claire and Mariah & Tessa,
    while Aunt Jordan remembers back to when Ian Ward reeled her in on his
    Revenge! plot.
    ÿÿ GH - Tue's ep. Bitch Carly wants Revenge!! on Drew (and Willow), but
    Jason tries to talk her down from that. Willow is working some public
    charity thing for Jordan, and of course Drew stops by to see her,
    witnessed by both a visibly displeased Jordan, and by Felicia. Nina,
    with Ava present, discusses Willow's upcoming potential divorce and
    custody case with lawyer Martin Gray. Curtis and Michael implement their
    plan to eject Drew from Aurora co., but Curtis gets it in writing from
    Michael up front. Despondent Josslyn discusses her grief with Trina, who
    understands the situation intimately because of Spencer's death.
    ÿÿ DOOL - Tue's ep. Mostly stuff about Cat and her family, or Chad with
    Jack and Jennifer, and I really don't care much. NuGabi is already
    starting to work on seducing JJ - this girl's libido won't quit!!

    Broken Innocence (Tubi) - This 2024 effort is one of those flicks that
    gets you to wonder - if this film had had a budget, a better script, and
    better actors and better direction, would it have been a "good film"?

    I think that question applies to just about every bad movie, and the
    answer is yes.


    I’m not so sure about that. I love Batman 1966 but it’s full of cheap shots that you would think would benefit from a reshoot. But I’ve had discussions with people and we pretty much agree that if you made Batman 1966 into it technically better movie, it would probably not be as much fun to watch.

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  • From Ian J. Ball@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Dec 21 13:57:18 2024
    On 12/20/24 5:29 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 12/19/24 4:54 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 1:39 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then >>>>>> did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got >>>>>> through:

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    THE DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS on The Plex

    Yay, you got to watch something!

    iPhone, ear buds :)

    "Baywatch" is on The Tubi! (And a bunch of other places, I'm sure...)

    I’m holding out for Baywatch nights season two

    I actually would settle for the "Baywatch: Hawaiian Wedding" sequel
    movie, which I have never seen, but it's not available anywhere, and I
    don't think they show it on the "Baywatch" FAST channel.

    (I also don't think I have ever seen the pilot movie, "Baywatch: Panic
    at Malibu Pier", and it's also not available anywhere, and I don't think
    they show it on the "Baywatch" FAST channel either!...)



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  • From Arthur Lipscomb@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Dec 21 18:52:16 2024
    On 12/20/2024 5:29 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 7:50 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then
    did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got
    through:

    soaps: Y&R - Mon's ep. Billy tells Filis[sic!] his Revenge! plot against >>> Victor; Filis balks at getting involved because of her kids - I wasn't
    sure if she agreed to participate or not. Sharon gets hypnotized by
    Traci's boyfriend, and remembers that she didn't run Filis off the road. >>> Ian Ward eavesdrops on a conversation between Claire and Mariah & Tessa, >>> while Aunt Jordan remembers back to when Ian Ward reeled her in on his
    Revenge! plot.
    ÿÿ GH - Tue's ep. Bitch Carly wants Revenge!! on Drew (and Willow), but >>> Jason tries to talk her down from that. Willow is working some public
    charity thing for Jordan, and of course Drew stops by to see her,
    witnessed by both a visibly displeased Jordan, and by Felicia. Nina,
    with Ava present, discusses Willow's upcoming potential divorce and
    custody case with lawyer Martin Gray. Curtis and Michael implement their >>> plan to eject Drew from Aurora co., but Curtis gets it in writing from
    Michael up front. Despondent Josslyn discusses her grief with Trina, who >>> understands the situation intimately because of Spencer's death.
    ÿÿ DOOL - Tue's ep. Mostly stuff about Cat and her family, or Chad with >>> Jack and Jennifer, and I really don't care much. NuGabi is already
    starting to work on seducing JJ - this girl's libido won't quit!!

    Broken Innocence (Tubi) - This 2024 effort is one of those flicks that
    gets you to wonder - if this film had had a budget, a better script, and >>> better actors and better direction, would it have been a "good film"?

    I think that question applies to just about every bad movie, and the
    answer is yes.


    I’m not so sure about that. I love Batman 1966 but it’s full of cheap shots
    that you would think would benefit from a reshoot. But I’ve had discussions with people and we pretty much agree that if you made Batman 1966 into it technically better movie, it would probably not be as much fun to watch.


    But don't forget, "better script." I'm thinking Plan 9 Outer Space
    redone as "Ed Wood" or "The Room" redone as "The Disaster Artist." Two examples of bad movies that mocked because they were so bad, yet given a
    new *everything* it becomes entertaining. Not a mock it level, but a
    good actors with a good script level.

    Then there are the straight remakes like "Little Shop of Horrors"or
    "The Thing." Not that the originals were necessarily bad movies, but
    between the originals and the remakes, I'll take the remakes. "A Star
    is Born" is a movie with multiple versions. I watched all them and
    didn't like any version, until the most recent version.

    Or you can do it in reverse. Think of all the great movies that had bad remakes. I think the criteria still applies regardless as to which
    movie came first.

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Dec 21 21:51:01 2024
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 12/20/24 5:29 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 12/19/24 4:54 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 1:39 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then >>>>>>> did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got >>>>>>> through:

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    THE DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS on The Plex

    Yay, you got to watch something!

    iPhone, ear buds :)

    "Baywatch" is on The Tubi! (And a bunch of other places, I'm sure...)

    I’m holding out for Baywatch nights season two

    I actually would settle for the "Baywatch: Hawaiian Wedding" sequel
    movie, which I have never seen, but it's not available anywhere, and I
    don't think they show it on the "Baywatch" FAST channel.


    I watched that since I’ve been in the hospital.


    (I also don't think I have ever seen the pilot movie, "Baywatch: Panic
    at Malibu Pier", and it's also not available anywhere, and I don't think they show it on the "Baywatch" FAST channel either!...)


    Hmmm

    It looks like that’s available on Apple TV


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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Dec 21 22:22:43 2024
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/20/2024 5:29 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 7:50 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then
    did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got >>>> through:

    soaps: Y&R - Mon's ep. Billy tells Filis[sic!] his Revenge! plot against >>>> Victor; Filis balks at getting involved because of her kids - I wasn't >>>> sure if she agreed to participate or not. Sharon gets hypnotized by
    Traci's boyfriend, and remembers that she didn't run Filis off the road. >>>> Ian Ward eavesdrops on a conversation between Claire and Mariah & Tessa, >>>> while Aunt Jordan remembers back to when Ian Ward reeled her in on his >>>> Revenge! plot.
    ÿÿ GH - Tue's ep. Bitch Carly wants Revenge!! on Drew (and Willow), but >>>> Jason tries to talk her down from that. Willow is working some public
    charity thing for Jordan, and of course Drew stops by to see her,
    witnessed by both a visibly displeased Jordan, and by Felicia. Nina,
    with Ava present, discusses Willow's upcoming potential divorce and
    custody case with lawyer Martin Gray. Curtis and Michael implement their >>>> plan to eject Drew from Aurora co., but Curtis gets it in writing from >>>> Michael up front. Despondent Josslyn discusses her grief with Trina, who >>>> understands the situation intimately because of Spencer's death.
    ÿÿ DOOL - Tue's ep. Mostly stuff about Cat and her family, or Chad with >>>> Jack and Jennifer, and I really don't care much. NuGabi is already
    starting to work on seducing JJ - this girl's libido won't quit!!

    Broken Innocence (Tubi) - This 2024 effort is one of those flicks that >>>> gets you to wonder - if this film had had a budget, a better script, and >>>> better actors and better direction, would it have been a "good film"?

    I think that question applies to just about every bad movie, and the
    answer is yes.


    I’m not so sure about that. I love Batman 1966 but it’s full of cheap shots
    that you would think would benefit from a reshoot. But I’ve had discussions
    with people and we pretty much agree that if you made Batman 1966 into it
    technically better movie, it would probably not be as much fun to watch.


    I re-watched it tonight. There’s less to be fixed than I would have
    thought. The main thing is, I would like them to use New York for all the
    shots of the city. It’s kind of embarrassing when they keep cutting back-and-forth from stock footage of New York footage of LA which hardly
    had any skyscrapers at the time.



    But don't forget, "better script." I'm thinking Plan 9 Outer Space
    redone as "Ed Wood" or "The Room" redone as "The Disaster Artist." Two examples of bad movies that mocked because they were so bad, yet given a
    new *everything* it becomes entertaining. Not a mock it level, but a
    good actors with a good script level.

    Then there are the straight remakes like "Little Shop of Horrors"or
    "The Thing." Not that the originals were necessarily bad movies, but
    between the originals and the remakes, I'll take the remakes.

    I think the 1951 version of THE THING (from another world) is one of the
    best movies ever made. Classic Howard Hawks.

    I like the 1982 version as well. But from a rewatch viewpoint, the 1951
    version has it beat.

    "A Star
    is Born" is a movie with multiple versions. I watched all them and
    didn't like any version, until the most recent version.


    I’ve never managed to sit through any version, even though I know people in the Kris Kristofferson one since it was shot here. And doesn’t another version star James Mason?


    Or you can do it in reverse. Think of all the great movies that had bad remakes. I think the criteria still applies regardless as to which
    movie came first.


    People keep complaining about remakes of great movies. They’re right, they should be remaking movies that crashed and burned where there’s room for improvement.

    --
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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Dec 21 22:22:48 2024
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <vk2gfj$33uoc$1@dont-email.me>, ijball@mac.invalid wrote:
    On 12/19/24 4:54 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:

    Yay, you got to watch something!

    iPhone, ear buds :)

    "Baywatch" is on The Tubi! (And a bunch of other places, I'm sure...)

    Screw that. Watch "Baywatch Nights".

    You find it and I’ll watch it



    --
    Let's go Brandon!





    --
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  • From shawn@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Dec 21 23:50:50 2024
    On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 04:22:48 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <vk2gfj$33uoc$1@dont-email.me>, ijball@mac.invalid wrote:
    On 12/19/24 4:54 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:

    Yay, you got to watch something!

    iPhone, ear buds :)

    "Baywatch" is on The Tubi! (And a bunch of other places, I'm sure...)

    Screw that. Watch "Baywatch Nights".

    You find it and I’ll watch it

    Never watched this myself but it took all of a few seconds to find it.
    All episodes available for anyone to watch. Just scroll down a few
    pages and you can see all the episodes available for you to pick
    through:
    https://www.youtube.com/@mazandtaz/videos

    first episode season 1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1ZGBye0cz0

    looks like it has both season 1 and season 2.

    Ah this is even better. Someone made a playlist of all the episodes
    (same as those listed above)

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVwGZORCrsAltyI88NrEE9SGGG_nwgN4a
    so play this and it will just go from episode to episode. S01E01 to
    S02e22


    Enjoy! (at least I hope it's enjoyable. I know it gets very strange.)

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Dec 22 04:00:26 2024
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 04:22:48 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <vk2gfj$33uoc$1@dont-email.me>, ijball@mac.invalid wrote:
    On 12/19/24 4:54 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:

    Yay, you got to watch something!

    iPhone, ear buds :)

    "Baywatch" is on The Tubi! (And a bunch of other places, I'm sure...)

    Screw that. Watch "Baywatch Nights".

    You find it and I’ll watch it

    Never watched this myself but it took all of a few seconds to find it.
    All episodes available for anyone to watch. Just scroll down a few
    pages and you can see all the episodes available for you to pick
    through:
    https://www.youtube.com/@mazandtaz/videos

    first episode season 1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1ZGBye0cz0

    looks like it has both season 1 and season 2.

    Ah this is even better. Someone made a playlist of all the episodes
    (same as those listed above)

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVwGZORCrsAltyI88NrEE9SGGG_nwgN4a
    so play this and it will just go from episode to episode. S01E01 to
    S02e22


    Enjoy! (at least I hope it's enjoyable. I know it gets very strange.)


    Thanks! That was very nice of you.

    Season one is just a straightforward detective show. Season two goes supernatural! But more importantly, both seasons have Angie Harmon.

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  • From Ian J. Ball@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Dec 22 04:17:19 2024
    On 12/21/24 2:51 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 12/20/24 5:29 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 12/19/24 4:54 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 1:39 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then >>>>>>>> did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got
    through:

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    THE DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS on The Plex

    Yay, you got to watch something!

    iPhone, ear buds :)

    "Baywatch" is on The Tubi! (And a bunch of other places, I'm sure...)

    I’m holding out for Baywatch nights season two

    I actually would settle for the "Baywatch: Hawaiian Wedding" sequel
    movie, which I have never seen, but it's not available anywhere, and I
    don't think they show it on the "Baywatch" FAST channel.

    I watched that since I’ve been in the hospital.

    The FAST channel? Or "Hawaiian Wedding"?

    (I also don't think I have ever seen the pilot movie, "Baywatch: Panic
    at Malibu Pier", and it's also not available anywhere, and I don't think
    they show it on the "Baywatch" FAST channel either!...)

    Hmmm

    It looks like that’s available on Apple TV

    I don't see that when I search - Apple TV has "White Thunder at Glacier
    Bay" (which actually gets run *a lot* on the FAST channel, which is OK
    as I think guest star Heather Stephens is hott!!), but they have no
    other "Baywatch" TV series stuff, just the 2017 film.


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  • From Arthur Lipscomb@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Dec 22 08:43:16 2024
    On 12/21/2024 3:22 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/20/2024 5:29 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 7:50 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then >>>>> did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got >>>>> through:

    soaps: Y&R - Mon's ep. Billy tells Filis[sic!] his Revenge! plot against >>>>> Victor; Filis balks at getting involved because of her kids - I wasn't >>>>> sure if she agreed to participate or not. Sharon gets hypnotized by
    Traci's boyfriend, and remembers that she didn't run Filis off the road. >>>>> Ian Ward eavesdrops on a conversation between Claire and Mariah & Tessa, >>>>> while Aunt Jordan remembers back to when Ian Ward reeled her in on his >>>>> Revenge! plot.
    ÿÿ GH - Tue's ep. Bitch Carly wants Revenge!! on Drew (and Willow), but >>>>> Jason tries to talk her down from that. Willow is working some public >>>>> charity thing for Jordan, and of course Drew stops by to see her,
    witnessed by both a visibly displeased Jordan, and by Felicia. Nina, >>>>> with Ava present, discusses Willow's upcoming potential divorce and
    custody case with lawyer Martin Gray. Curtis and Michael implement their >>>>> plan to eject Drew from Aurora co., but Curtis gets it in writing from >>>>> Michael up front. Despondent Josslyn discusses her grief with Trina, who >>>>> understands the situation intimately because of Spencer's death.
    ÿÿ DOOL - Tue's ep. Mostly stuff about Cat and her family, or Chad with >>>>> Jack and Jennifer, and I really don't care much. NuGabi is already
    starting to work on seducing JJ - this girl's libido won't quit!!

    Broken Innocence (Tubi) - This 2024 effort is one of those flicks that >>>>> gets you to wonder - if this film had had a budget, a better script, and >>>>> better actors and better direction, would it have been a "good film"? >>>>
    I think that question applies to just about every bad movie, and the
    answer is yes.


    I’m not so sure about that. I love Batman 1966 but it’s full of cheap shots
    that you would think would benefit from a reshoot. But I’ve had discussions
    with people and we pretty much agree that if you made Batman 1966 into it >>> technically better movie, it would probably not be as much fun to watch. >>>

    I re-watched it tonight. There’s less to be fixed than I would have thought. The main thing is, I would like them to use New York for all the shots of the city. It’s kind of embarrassing when they keep cutting back-and-forth from stock footage of New York footage of LA which hardly
    had any skyscrapers at the time.



    But the Gotham City on the TV show felt like a small town with hardly
    any skyscrapers. Weren't the New York shots supposed to be the UN in
    New York? Or was it some Batversion of the UN?



    But don't forget, "better script." I'm thinking Plan 9 Outer Space
    redone as "Ed Wood" or "The Room" redone as "The Disaster Artist." Two
    examples of bad movies that mocked because they were so bad, yet given a
    new *everything* it becomes entertaining. Not a mock it level, but a
    good actors with a good script level.

    Then there are the straight remakes like "Little Shop of Horrors"or
    "The Thing." Not that the originals were necessarily bad movies, but
    between the originals and the remakes, I'll take the remakes.

    I think the 1951 version of THE THING (from another world) is one of the
    best movies ever made. Classic Howard Hawks.

    I like the 1982 version as well. But from a rewatch viewpoint, the 1951 version has it beat.


    I think I've only watched the 1951 version all the way through once,
    maybe twice. It's interesting as compared to the far superior John
    Carpenter version. But other than as a curiosity I have no real use for
    it. ;-)

    I don't think I could even force myself to watch it if I wasn't going to
    watch the remake next. Unless maybe if I was going to pair it with
    "Creature" since "Creature" explicitly references it. In fact a couple
    of years ago, I think I did just that. I watched the 1951 version, the
    remake and "Creature" back to back. And this is not a recommendation
    for "Creature." It is a horrible movie! Best avoided.



    "A Star
    is Born" is a movie with multiple versions. I watched all them and
    didn't like any version, until the most recent version.


    I’ve never managed to sit through any version, even though I know people in the Kris Kristofferson one since it was shot here. And doesn’t another version star James Mason?


    The 1954 version with Judy Garland. I think TCM had a marathon one day starting with the 1937 version, and I recorded and watched them all.
    This was long before the most recent remake. Somewhat interesting, and
    you wouldn't pick up on this if you haven't watched the 1937 version,
    but in the original version they were actors, then in 54 with Judy
    Garland and every version since, they've hired singers.

    Even though I didn't like the original movie(s) I kept watching them
    because I felt there was definitely a good concept in there. They just
    needed the right script, cast, director, etc. and eventually they made a version that I did like. And for that, I'm glad I kept watching the
    remakes.

    Or you can do it in reverse. Think of all the great movies that had bad
    remakes. I think the criteria still applies regardless as to which
    movie came first.


    People keep complaining about remakes of great movies. They’re right, they should be remaking movies that crashed and burned where there’s room for improvement.


    Yes, I *almost* said that. I think it was a quote from Roger Ebert
    about remaking the bad movies instead of the good ones. But I'm all for remaking the good ones too! I know it's been in the works for forever,
    but just last month they gave a new announcement about the "Forbidden
    Planet" planet. People are going apoplectic over the possible remake.
    But I really *liked* the original, and I would very much like to see
    where that story goes next with either a *good* remake or a *good*
    sequel. As long as the movie is entertaining, I don't care if it's a
    remake or a sequel.

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Dec 22 13:33:02 2024
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/21/2024 3:22 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/20/2024 5:29 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 7:50 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then >>>>>> did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got >>>>>> through:

    soaps: Y&R - Mon's ep. Billy tells Filis[sic!] his Revenge! plot against >>>>>> Victor; Filis balks at getting involved because of her kids - I wasn't >>>>>> sure if she agreed to participate or not. Sharon gets hypnotized by >>>>>> Traci's boyfriend, and remembers that she didn't run Filis off the road. >>>>>> Ian Ward eavesdrops on a conversation between Claire and Mariah & Tessa, >>>>>> while Aunt Jordan remembers back to when Ian Ward reeled her in on his >>>>>> Revenge! plot.
    ÿÿ GH - Tue's ep. Bitch Carly wants Revenge!! on Drew (and Willow), but >>>>>> Jason tries to talk her down from that. Willow is working some public >>>>>> charity thing for Jordan, and of course Drew stops by to see her,
    witnessed by both a visibly displeased Jordan, and by Felicia. Nina, >>>>>> with Ava present, discusses Willow's upcoming potential divorce and >>>>>> custody case with lawyer Martin Gray. Curtis and Michael implement their >>>>>> plan to eject Drew from Aurora co., but Curtis gets it in writing from >>>>>> Michael up front. Despondent Josslyn discusses her grief with Trina, who >>>>>> understands the situation intimately because of Spencer's death.
    ÿÿ DOOL - Tue's ep. Mostly stuff about Cat and her family, or Chad with >>>>>> Jack and Jennifer, and I really don't care much. NuGabi is already >>>>>> starting to work on seducing JJ - this girl's libido won't quit!!

    Broken Innocence (Tubi) - This 2024 effort is one of those flicks that >>>>>> gets you to wonder - if this film had had a budget, a better script, and >>>>>> better actors and better direction, would it have been a "good film"? >>>>>
    I think that question applies to just about every bad movie, and the >>>>> answer is yes.


    I’m not so sure about that. I love Batman 1966 but it’s full of cheap shots
    that you would think would benefit from a reshoot. But I’ve had discussions
    with people and we pretty much agree that if you made Batman 1966 into it >>>> technically better movie, it would probably not be as much fun to watch. >>>>

    I re-watched it tonight. There’s less to be fixed than I would have
    thought. The main thing is, I would like them to use New York for all the
    shots of the city. It’s kind of embarrassing when they keep cutting
    back-and-forth from stock footage of New York footage of LA which hardly
    had any skyscrapers at the time.



    But the Gotham City on the TV show felt like a small town with hardly
    any skyscrapers. Weren't the New York shots supposed to be the UN in
    New York? Or was it some Batversion of the UN?



    They actually shot Batman and Robin (possibly stunt doubles) running down
    the streets of New York through the crowds. And they used the real United Nations building although just stock footage we didn’t see anybody with it.

    But even in the show at least early on the establishing shots of Gotham
    were always New York.

    Another change I’d like to see although I’m more ambivalent about it is instead of just a cheap office set with a table being the United Nations
    world Council. I want to see the fancy round wood covered council chamber
    from voyage to the bottom of the Sea ((The movie) or when worlds collide.
    The cheap set ads to the cheesiness, but a little grandeur would add to the threat level.

    http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film4/blu-ray_reviews_60/voyage_to_the_bottom_of_the_sea_blu-ray_/large/large_voyage_bottom_sea_blu-ray_subs.jpg

    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/batman/images/5/56/United_World_Security_Council.png/revision/latest?cb=20240628045936

    Here’s a review of the 1966 movie although he gets a lot of stuff wrong

    https://www.cbr.com/things-never-made-sense-about-1966-batman-movie/


    But don't forget, "better script." I'm thinking Plan 9 Outer Space
    redone as "Ed Wood" or "The Room" redone as "The Disaster Artist." Two
    examples of bad movies that mocked because they were so bad, yet given a >>> new *everything* it becomes entertaining. Not a mock it level, but a
    good actors with a good script level.

    Then there are the straight remakes like "Little Shop of Horrors"or
    "The Thing." Not that the originals were necessarily bad movies, but
    between the originals and the remakes, I'll take the remakes.

    I think the 1951 version of THE THING (from another world) is one of the
    best movies ever made. Classic Howard Hawks.

    I like the 1982 version as well. But from a rewatch viewpoint, the 1951
    version has it beat.


    I think I've only watched the 1951 version all the way through once,
    maybe twice. It's interesting as compared to the far superior John
    Carpenter version. But other than as a curiosity I have no real use for
    it. ;-)

    I don't think I could even force myself to watch it if I wasn't going to watch the remake next.

    Do you ever watch 1951, then 1982, then 2011?

    Or possibly 1951, 2011, 1982?


    Unless maybe if I was going to pair it with
    "Creature" since "Creature" explicitly references it. In fact a couple
    of years ago, I think I did just that. I watched the 1951 version, the remake and "Creature" back to back. And this is not a recommendation
    for "Creature." It is a horrible movie! Best avoided.



    "A Star
    is Born" is a movie with multiple versions. I watched all them and
    didn't like any version, until the most recent version.


    I’ve never managed to sit through any version, even though I know people in
    the Kris Kristofferson one since it was shot here. And doesn’t another
    version star James Mason?


    The 1954 version with Judy Garland. I think TCM had a marathon one day starting with the 1937 version, and I recorded and watched them all.
    This was long before the most recent remake. Somewhat interesting, and
    you wouldn't pick up on this if you haven't watched the 1937 version,
    but in the original version they were actors, then in 54 with Judy
    Garland and every version since, they've hired singers.

    Even though I didn't like the original movie(s) I kept watching them
    because I felt there was definitely a good concept in there. They just needed the right script, cast, director, etc. and eventually they made a version that I did like. And for that, I'm glad I kept watching the remakes.

    Or you can do it in reverse. Think of all the great movies that had bad >>> remakes. I think the criteria still applies regardless as to which
    movie came first.


    People keep complaining about remakes of great movies. They’re right, they >> should be remaking movies that crashed and burned where there’s room for >> improvement.


    Yes, I *almost* said that. I think it was a quote from Roger Ebert
    about remaking the bad movies instead of the good ones. But I'm all for remaking the good ones too! I know it's been in the works for forever,
    but just last month they gave a new announcement about the "Forbidden Planet" planet. People are going apoplectic

    Oh yeah


    over the possible remake.
    But I really *liked* the original, and I would very much like to see
    where that story goes next with either a *good* remake or a *good*
    sequel. As long as the movie is entertaining, I don't care if it's a
    remake or a sequel.




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  • From Arthur Lipscomb@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Dec 22 15:12:01 2024
    On 12/21/2024 6:33 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/21/2024 3:22 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/20/2024 5:29 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 7:50 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then >>>>>>> did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got >>>>>>> through:

    soaps: Y&R - Mon's ep. Billy tells Filis[sic!] his Revenge! plot against
    Victor; Filis balks at getting involved because of her kids - I wasn't >>>>>>> sure if she agreed to participate or not. Sharon gets hypnotized by >>>>>>> Traci's boyfriend, and remembers that she didn't run Filis off the road.
    Ian Ward eavesdrops on a conversation between Claire and Mariah & Tessa,
    while Aunt Jordan remembers back to when Ian Ward reeled her in on his >>>>>>> Revenge! plot.
    ÿÿ GH - Tue's ep. Bitch Carly wants Revenge!! on Drew (and Willow), but
    Jason tries to talk her down from that. Willow is working some public >>>>>>> charity thing for Jordan, and of course Drew stops by to see her, >>>>>>> witnessed by both a visibly displeased Jordan, and by Felicia. Nina, >>>>>>> with Ava present, discusses Willow's upcoming potential divorce and >>>>>>> custody case with lawyer Martin Gray. Curtis and Michael implement their
    plan to eject Drew from Aurora co., but Curtis gets it in writing from >>>>>>> Michael up front. Despondent Josslyn discusses her grief with Trina, who
    understands the situation intimately because of Spencer's death. >>>>>>> ÿÿ DOOL - Tue's ep. Mostly stuff about Cat and her family, or Chad with
    Jack and Jennifer, and I really don't care much. NuGabi is already >>>>>>> starting to work on seducing JJ - this girl's libido won't quit!! >>>>>>>
    Broken Innocence (Tubi) - This 2024 effort is one of those flicks that >>>>>>> gets you to wonder - if this film had had a budget, a better script, and
    better actors and better direction, would it have been a "good film"? >>>>>>
    I think that question applies to just about every bad movie, and the >>>>>> answer is yes.


    I’m not so sure about that. I love Batman 1966 but it’s full of cheap shots
    that you would think would benefit from a reshoot. But I’ve had discussions
    with people and we pretty much agree that if you made Batman 1966 into it >>>>> technically better movie, it would probably not be as much fun to watch. >>>>>

    I re-watched it tonight. There’s less to be fixed than I would have
    thought. The main thing is, I would like them to use New York for all the >>> shots of the city. It’s kind of embarrassing when they keep cutting
    back-and-forth from stock footage of New York footage of LA which hardly >>> had any skyscrapers at the time.



    But the Gotham City on the TV show felt like a small town with hardly
    any skyscrapers. Weren't the New York shots supposed to be the UN in
    New York? Or was it some Batversion of the UN?



    They actually shot Batman and Robin (possibly stunt doubles) running down
    the streets of New York through the crowds. And they used the real United Nations building although just stock footage we didn’t see anybody with it.

    But even in the show at least early on the establishing shots of Gotham
    were always New York.

    Another change I’d like to see although I’m more ambivalent about it is instead of just a cheap office set with a table being the United Nations world Council. I want to see the fancy round wood covered council chamber from voyage to the bottom of the Sea ((The movie) or when worlds collide.
    The cheap set ads to the cheesiness, but a little grandeur would add to the threat level.


    Yeah, they should have gone with a better set.

    http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film4/blu-ray_reviews_60/voyage_to_the_bottom_of_the_sea_blu-ray_/large/large_voyage_bottom_sea_blu-ray_subs.jpg

    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/batman/images/5/56/United_World_Security_Council.png/revision/latest?cb=20240628045936

    Here’s a review of the 1966 movie although he gets a lot of stuff wrong

    https://www.cbr.com/things-never-made-sense-about-1966-batman-movie/


    This guys complains they are wearing masks while committing crimes?
    They're criminals. Of course they are wearing masks! LOL

    And the navy didn't sale a boat to The Penguin. They sold a surplus
    boat to a Mr. Guin. Who could have possibly known Mr. Guin would be up
    to no good?

    Regarding Batman letting Penguin into the cave, maybe I'm misremembering
    it, but didn't Batman always see through the disguise and *know* it was
    really Penguin?

    And is this guy really complaining that there's kissing in the movie?
    Who is this guy?!?

    Maybe I'll give him the porpoise scene. That was a bit farfetched.



    But don't forget, "better script." I'm thinking Plan 9 Outer Space
    redone as "Ed Wood" or "The Room" redone as "The Disaster Artist." Two >>>> examples of bad movies that mocked because they were so bad, yet given a >>>> new *everything* it becomes entertaining. Not a mock it level, but a
    good actors with a good script level.

    Then there are the straight remakes like "Little Shop of Horrors"or
    "The Thing." Not that the originals were necessarily bad movies, but
    between the originals and the remakes, I'll take the remakes.

    I think the 1951 version of THE THING (from another world) is one of the >>> best movies ever made. Classic Howard Hawks.

    I like the 1982 version as well. But from a rewatch viewpoint, the 1951
    version has it beat.


    I think I've only watched the 1951 version all the way through once,
    maybe twice. It's interesting as compared to the far superior John
    Carpenter version. But other than as a curiosity I have no real use for
    it. ;-)

    I don't think I could even force myself to watch it if I wasn't going to
    watch the remake next.

    Do you ever watch 1951, then 1982, then 2011?

    Or possibly 1951, 2011, 1982?



    Since 2011, it's been 2011 then 1982. I've never owned the 1951 version
    in any format so watching it has never been a consideration. Prior to
    that I probably just treated it as a standalone movie. I don't recall
    ever really pairing it with anything.

    I do recall many years ago I had step brother who never saw it before so
    I showed it to him and it was like a real life reaction video as he
    oohed and awed in amazement of the movie.


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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Dec 22 17:36:37 2024
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/21/2024 6:33 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/21/2024 3:22 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/20/2024 5:29 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 7:50 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then >>>>>>>> did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got
    through:

    soaps: Y&R - Mon's ep. Billy tells Filis[sic!] his Revenge! plot against
    Victor; Filis balks at getting involved because of her kids - I wasn't >>>>>>>> sure if she agreed to participate or not. Sharon gets hypnotized by >>>>>>>> Traci's boyfriend, and remembers that she didn't run Filis off the road.
    Ian Ward eavesdrops on a conversation between Claire and Mariah & Tessa,
    while Aunt Jordan remembers back to when Ian Ward reeled her in on his >>>>>>>> Revenge! plot.
    ÿÿ GH - Tue's ep. Bitch Carly wants Revenge!! on Drew (and Willow), but
    Jason tries to talk her down from that. Willow is working some public >>>>>>>> charity thing for Jordan, and of course Drew stops by to see her, >>>>>>>> witnessed by both a visibly displeased Jordan, and by Felicia. Nina, >>>>>>>> with Ava present, discusses Willow's upcoming potential divorce and >>>>>>>> custody case with lawyer Martin Gray. Curtis and Michael implement their
    plan to eject Drew from Aurora co., but Curtis gets it in writing from >>>>>>>> Michael up front. Despondent Josslyn discusses her grief with Trina, who
    understands the situation intimately because of Spencer's death. >>>>>>>> ÿÿ DOOL - Tue's ep. Mostly stuff about Cat and her family, or Chad with
    Jack and Jennifer, and I really don't care much. NuGabi is already >>>>>>>> starting to work on seducing JJ - this girl's libido won't quit!! >>>>>>>>
    Broken Innocence (Tubi) - This 2024 effort is one of those flicks that >>>>>>>> gets you to wonder - if this film had had a budget, a better script, and
    better actors and better direction, would it have been a "good film"? >>>>>>>
    I think that question applies to just about every bad movie, and the >>>>>>> answer is yes.


    I’m not so sure about that. I love Batman 1966 but it’s full of cheap shots
    that you would think would benefit from a reshoot. But I’ve had discussions
    with people and we pretty much agree that if you made Batman 1966 into it
    technically better movie, it would probably not be as much fun to watch. >>>>>>

    I re-watched it tonight. There’s less to be fixed than I would have
    thought. The main thing is, I would like them to use New York for all the >>>> shots of the city. It’s kind of embarrassing when they keep cutting
    back-and-forth from stock footage of New York footage of LA which hardly >>>> had any skyscrapers at the time.



    But the Gotham City on the TV show felt like a small town with hardly
    any skyscrapers. Weren't the New York shots supposed to be the UN in
    New York? Or was it some Batversion of the UN?



    They actually shot Batman and Robin (possibly stunt doubles) running down
    the streets of New York through the crowds. And they used the real United
    Nations building although just stock footage we didn’t see anybody with it.

    But even in the show at least early on the establishing shots of Gotham
    were always New York.

    Another change I’d like to see although I’m more ambivalent about it is >> instead of just a cheap office set with a table being the United Nations
    world Council. I want to see the fancy round wood covered council chamber
    from voyage to the bottom of the Sea ((The movie) or when worlds collide.
    The cheap set ads to the cheesiness, but a little grandeur would add to the >> threat level.


    Yeah, they should have gone with a better set.

    It’s like they ran out of money and had to finish on a weekend and that’s the best they could do.

    I’ve always disliked the aircraft controller set as well. You would think they could’ve sprung for some mystery equipment and cluttered it up.



    http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film4/blu-ray_reviews_60/voyage_to_the_bottom_of_the_sea_blu-ray_/large/large_voyage_bottom_sea_blu-ray_subs.jpg

    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/batman/images/5/56/United_World_Security_Council.png/revision/latest?cb=20240628045936

    Here’s a review of the 1966 movie although he gets a lot of stuff wrong

    https://www.cbr.com/things-never-made-sense-about-1966-batman-movie/


    This guys complains they are wearing masks while committing crimes?
    They're criminals. Of course they are wearing masks! LOL


    Yes! And Catwoman had apparently never been unmasked at this point, which
    kept them from recognizing her as Miss Kitka!

    Yeah, that’s a stupid complaint. Especially since two of them don’t wear masks and Miss Kitka wears a lot more mask than he claims. So he’s really only talking about the Riddler. And I bet if you tried to get somebody to identify a villain in court. His lawyer would make a big deal out of the
    fact that he was masked so how can you be sure?

    And the navy didn't sale a boat to The Penguin. They sold a surplus
    boat to a Mr. Guin. Who could have possibly known Mr. Guin would be up
    to no good?

    You have to wonder how much money the penguin had that he’s buying a submarine and completely refitting it in order to commit another crime!


    Regarding Batman letting Penguin into the cave, maybe I'm misremembering
    it, but didn't Batman always see through the disguise and *know* it was really Penguin?

    Yeah, Batman and Robin agreed it was obviously the penguin when they first
    met him on the docks.


    And is this guy really complaining that there's kissing in the movie?
    Who is this guy?!?

    That was weird.

    I will give him that the bat boat just sitting there unguarded in the
    middle of nowhere is a bit odd.

    But he’s wrong about the bat cycle. They don’t just leave it there in the bushes. It was obviously planted for them to use, when they faked the
    breakdown of the Batmobile.



    Maybe I'll give him the porpoise scene. That was a bit farfetched.


    Yeah. Maybe less so in 1966 when we were still watchingFlipper.



    But don't forget, "better script." I'm thinking Plan 9 Outer Space
    redone as "Ed Wood" or "The Room" redone as "The Disaster Artist." Two >>>>> examples of bad movies that mocked because they were so bad, yet given a >>>>> new *everything* it becomes entertaining. Not a mock it level, but a >>>>> good actors with a good script level.

    Then there are the straight remakes like "Little Shop of Horrors"or
    "The Thing." Not that the originals were necessarily bad movies, but >>>>> between the originals and the remakes, I'll take the remakes.

    I think the 1951 version of THE THING (from another world) is one of the >>>> best movies ever made. Classic Howard Hawks.

    I like the 1982 version as well. But from a rewatch viewpoint, the 1951 >>>> version has it beat.


    I think I've only watched the 1951 version all the way through once,
    maybe twice. It's interesting as compared to the far superior John
    Carpenter version. But other than as a curiosity I have no real use for >>> it. ;-)

    I don't think I could even force myself to watch it if I wasn't going to >>> watch the remake next.

    Do you ever watch 1951, then 1982, then 2011?

    Or possibly 1951, 2011, 1982?



    Since 2011, it's been 2011 then 1982. I've never owned the 1951 version
    in any format so watching it has never been a consideration. Prior to
    that I probably just treated it as a standalone movie. I don't recall
    ever really pairing it with anything.

    I do recall many years ago I had step brother who never saw it before so
    I showed it to him and it was like a real life reaction video as he
    oohed and awed in amazement of the movie.

    You mean 1951? Or 1982?

    The Thing Facebook group I’m in, most people absolutely hate 2011 and complain about how bad the CGI effects look. I don’t get what they’re seeing.



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  • From Arthur Lipscomb@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Dec 23 02:26:37 2024
    On 12/21/2024 10:36 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/21/2024 6:33 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/21/2024 3:22 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/20/2024 5:29 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 7:50 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then >>>>>>>>> did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got
    through:

    soaps: Y&R - Mon's ep. Billy tells Filis[sic!] his Revenge! plot against
    Victor; Filis balks at getting involved because of her kids - I wasn't
    sure if she agreed to participate or not. Sharon gets hypnotized by >>>>>>>>> Traci's boyfriend, and remembers that she didn't run Filis off the road.
    Ian Ward eavesdrops on a conversation between Claire and Mariah & Tessa,
    while Aunt Jordan remembers back to when Ian Ward reeled her in on his
    Revenge! plot.
    ÿÿ GH - Tue's ep. Bitch Carly wants Revenge!! on Drew (and Willow), but
    Jason tries to talk her down from that. Willow is working some public >>>>>>>>> charity thing for Jordan, and of course Drew stops by to see her, >>>>>>>>> witnessed by both a visibly displeased Jordan, and by Felicia. Nina, >>>>>>>>> with Ava present, discusses Willow's upcoming potential divorce and >>>>>>>>> custody case with lawyer Martin Gray. Curtis and Michael implement their
    plan to eject Drew from Aurora co., but Curtis gets it in writing from
    Michael up front. Despondent Josslyn discusses her grief with Trina, who
    understands the situation intimately because of Spencer's death. >>>>>>>>> ÿÿ DOOL - Tue's ep. Mostly stuff about Cat and her family, or Chad with
    Jack and Jennifer, and I really don't care much. NuGabi is already >>>>>>>>> starting to work on seducing JJ - this girl's libido won't quit!! >>>>>>>>>
    Broken Innocence (Tubi) - This 2024 effort is one of those flicks that
    gets you to wonder - if this film had had a budget, a better script, and
    better actors and better direction, would it have been a "good film"? >>>>>>>>
    I think that question applies to just about every bad movie, and the >>>>>>>> answer is yes.


    I’m not so sure about that. I love Batman 1966 but it’s full of cheap shots
    that you would think would benefit from a reshoot. But I’ve had discussions
    with people and we pretty much agree that if you made Batman 1966 into it
    technically better movie, it would probably not be as much fun to watch.


    I re-watched it tonight. There’s less to be fixed than I would have >>>>> thought. The main thing is, I would like them to use New York for all the >>>>> shots of the city. It’s kind of embarrassing when they keep cutting >>>>> back-and-forth from stock footage of New York footage of LA which hardly >>>>> had any skyscrapers at the time.



    But the Gotham City on the TV show felt like a small town with hardly
    any skyscrapers. Weren't the New York shots supposed to be the UN in
    New York? Or was it some Batversion of the UN?



    They actually shot Batman and Robin (possibly stunt doubles) running down >>> the streets of New York through the crowds. And they used the real United >>> Nations building although just stock footage we didn’t see anybody with it.

    But even in the show at least early on the establishing shots of Gotham
    were always New York.

    Another change I’d like to see although I’m more ambivalent about it is >>> instead of just a cheap office set with a table being the United Nations >>> world Council. I want to see the fancy round wood covered council chamber >>> from voyage to the bottom of the Sea ((The movie) or when worlds collide. >>> The cheap set ads to the cheesiness, but a little grandeur would add to the >>> threat level.


    Yeah, they should have gone with a better set.

    It’s like they ran out of money and had to finish on a weekend and that’s the best they could do.

    I’ve always disliked the aircraft controller set as well. You would think they could’ve sprung for some mystery equipment and cluttered it up.



    http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film4/blu-ray_reviews_60/voyage_to_the_bottom_of_the_sea_blu-ray_/large/large_voyage_bottom_sea_blu-ray_subs.jpg

    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/batman/images/5/56/United_World_Security_Council.png/revision/latest?cb=20240628045936

    Here’s a review of the 1966 movie although he gets a lot of stuff wrong >>>
    https://www.cbr.com/things-never-made-sense-about-1966-batman-movie/


    This guys complains they are wearing masks while committing crimes?
    They're criminals. Of course they are wearing masks! LOL


    Yes! And Catwoman had apparently never been unmasked at this point, which kept them from recognizing her as Miss Kitka!

    Yeah, that’s a stupid complaint. Especially since two of them don’t wear masks and Miss Kitka wears a lot more mask than he claims. So he’s really only talking about the Riddler. And I bet if you tried to get somebody to identify a villain in court. His lawyer would make a big deal out of the
    fact that he was masked so how can you be sure?

    And the navy didn't sale a boat to The Penguin. They sold a surplus
    boat to a Mr. Guin. Who could have possibly known Mr. Guin would be up
    to no good?

    You have to wonder how much money the penguin had that he’s buying a submarine and completely refitting it in order to commit another crime!


    Regarding Batman letting Penguin into the cave, maybe I'm misremembering
    it, but didn't Batman always see through the disguise and *know* it was
    really Penguin?

    Yeah, Batman and Robin agreed it was obviously the penguin when they first met him on the docks.


    And is this guy really complaining that there's kissing in the movie?
    Who is this guy?!?

    That was weird.

    I will give him that the bat boat just sitting there unguarded in the
    middle of nowhere is a bit odd.

    But he’s wrong about the bat cycle. They don’t just leave it there in the bushes. It was obviously planted for them to use, when they faked the breakdown of the Batmobile.



    Maybe I'll give him the porpoise scene. That was a bit farfetched.


    Yeah. Maybe less so in 1966 when we were still watchingFlipper.



    But don't forget, "better script." I'm thinking Plan 9 Outer Space >>>>>> redone as "Ed Wood" or "The Room" redone as "The Disaster Artist." Two >>>>>> examples of bad movies that mocked because they were so bad, yet given a >>>>>> new *everything* it becomes entertaining. Not a mock it level, but a >>>>>> good actors with a good script level.

    Then there are the straight remakes like "Little Shop of Horrors"or >>>>>> "The Thing." Not that the originals were necessarily bad movies, but >>>>>> between the originals and the remakes, I'll take the remakes.

    I think the 1951 version of THE THING (from another world) is one of the >>>>> best movies ever made. Classic Howard Hawks.

    I like the 1982 version as well. But from a rewatch viewpoint, the 1951 >>>>> version has it beat.


    I think I've only watched the 1951 version all the way through once,
    maybe twice. It's interesting as compared to the far superior John
    Carpenter version. But other than as a curiosity I have no real use for >>>> it. ;-)

    I don't think I could even force myself to watch it if I wasn't going to >>>> watch the remake next.

    Do you ever watch 1951, then 1982, then 2011?

    Or possibly 1951, 2011, 1982?



    Since 2011, it's been 2011 then 1982. I've never owned the 1951 version
    in any format so watching it has never been a consideration. Prior to
    that I probably just treated it as a standalone movie. I don't recall
    ever really pairing it with anything.

    I do recall many years ago I had step brother who never saw it before so
    I showed it to him and it was like a real life reaction video as he
    oohed and awed in amazement of the movie.

    You mean 1951? Or 1982?


    I showed the 1982 version.

    The Thing Facebook group I’m in, most people absolutely hate 2011 and complain about how bad the CGI effects look. I don’t get what they’re seeing.


    I don't get the complaints either. My only annoyance is they couldn't be bothered to think up an original title for the remake.





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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Dec 23 03:07:04 2024
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/21/2024 3:22 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

    "A Star is Born" is a movie with multiple versions. I watched all
    them and didn't like any version, until the most recent version.

    I've never managed to sit through any version, even though I know people in >>the Kris Kristofferson one since it was shot here. And doesn’t another >>version star James Mason?

    The 1954 version with Judy Garland. I think TCM had a marathon one day >starting with the 1937 version, and I recorded and watched them all.
    This was long before the most recent remake. Somewhat interesting, and
    you wouldn't pick up on this if you haven't watched the 1937 version,
    but in the original version they were actors, then in 54 with Judy
    Garland and every version since, they've hired singers.

    Even though I didn't like the original movie(s) I kept watching them
    because I felt there was definitely a good concept in there. They just >needed the right script, cast, director, etc. and eventually they made a >version that I did like. And for that, I'm glad I kept watching the >remakes.

    I keep telling you that What Price Hollywood? (1932) starring Constance
    Bennett and Lowell Sherman is the original, that A Star Is Born (1937)
    starring Janet Gaynor and Fredric March was an unlicensed ripoff by
    another studio. I liked both '30s movies because the two actresses are
    just gorgeous.

    Note that Judy Garland's band leader had been a female character in the
    two earlier versions.

    . . .

    Yes, I *almost* said that. I think it was a quote from Roger Ebert
    about remaking the bad movies instead of the good ones. But I'm all for >remaking the good ones too! I know it's been in the works for forever,
    but just last month they gave a new announcement about the "Forbidden >Planet" planet. People are going apoplectic over the possible remake.
    But I really *liked* the original, and I would very much like to see
    where that story goes next with either a *good* remake or a *good*
    sequel. As long as the movie is entertaining, I don't care if it's a
    remake or a sequel.

    Uh, Forbidden Planet was not original. It was an adaptation of The
    Tempest in an off world futuristic setting.

    There weren't too many Star Trek scripts that weren't adapted from
    Shakespeare or the Bible or a story from the ancient Greeks. Since the
    Greeks invented theater, what's original?

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Dec 23 03:15:52 2024
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/21/2024 10:36 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/21/2024 6:33 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/21/2024 3:22 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/20/2024 5:29 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/19/2024 7:50 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    Finished grading the final for the first of my two sections, and then
    did a little bit of finish up work on the lab class... With that, I got
    through:

    soaps: Y&R - Mon's ep. Billy tells Filis[sic!] his Revenge! plot against
    Victor; Filis balks at getting involved because of her kids - I wasn't
    sure if she agreed to participate or not. Sharon gets hypnotized by >>>>>>>>>> Traci's boyfriend, and remembers that she didn't run Filis off the road.
    Ian Ward eavesdrops on a conversation between Claire and Mariah & Tessa,
    while Aunt Jordan remembers back to when Ian Ward reeled her in on his
    Revenge! plot.
    ÿÿ GH - Tue's ep. Bitch Carly wants Revenge!! on Drew (and Willow), but
    Jason tries to talk her down from that. Willow is working some public
    charity thing for Jordan, and of course Drew stops by to see her, >>>>>>>>>> witnessed by both a visibly displeased Jordan, and by Felicia. Nina, >>>>>>>>>> with Ava present, discusses Willow's upcoming potential divorce and >>>>>>>>>> custody case with lawyer Martin Gray. Curtis and Michael implement their
    plan to eject Drew from Aurora co., but Curtis gets it in writing from
    Michael up front. Despondent Josslyn discusses her grief with Trina, who
    understands the situation intimately because of Spencer's death. >>>>>>>>>> ÿÿ DOOL - Tue's ep. Mostly stuff about Cat and her family, or Chad with
    Jack and Jennifer, and I really don't care much. NuGabi is already >>>>>>>>>> starting to work on seducing JJ - this girl's libido won't quit!! >>>>>>>>>>
    Broken Innocence (Tubi) - This 2024 effort is one of those flicks that
    gets you to wonder - if this film had had a budget, a better script, and
    better actors and better direction, would it have been a "good film"?

    I think that question applies to just about every bad movie, and the >>>>>>>>> answer is yes.


    I’m not so sure about that. I love Batman 1966 but it’s full of cheap shots
    that you would think would benefit from a reshoot. But I’ve had discussions
    with people and we pretty much agree that if you made Batman 1966 into it
    technically better movie, it would probably not be as much fun to watch.


    I re-watched it tonight. There’s less to be fixed than I would have >>>>>> thought. The main thing is, I would like them to use New York for all the
    shots of the city. It’s kind of embarrassing when they keep cutting >>>>>> back-and-forth from stock footage of New York footage of LA which hardly >>>>>> had any skyscrapers at the time.



    But the Gotham City on the TV show felt like a small town with hardly >>>>> any skyscrapers. Weren't the New York shots supposed to be the UN in >>>>> New York? Or was it some Batversion of the UN?



    They actually shot Batman and Robin (possibly stunt doubles) running down >>>> the streets of New York through the crowds. And they used the real United >>>> Nations building although just stock footage we didn’t see anybody with it.

    But even in the show at least early on the establishing shots of Gotham >>>> were always New York.

    Another change I’d like to see although I’m more ambivalent about it is
    instead of just a cheap office set with a table being the United Nations >>>> world Council. I want to see the fancy round wood covered council chamber >>>> from voyage to the bottom of the Sea ((The movie) or when worlds collide. >>>> The cheap set ads to the cheesiness, but a little grandeur would add to the
    threat level.


    Yeah, they should have gone with a better set.

    It’s like they ran out of money and had to finish on a weekend and that’s
    the best they could do.

    I’ve always disliked the aircraft controller set as well. You would think >> they could’ve sprung for some mystery equipment and cluttered it up.



    http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film4/blu-ray_reviews_60/voyage_to_the_bottom_of_the_sea_blu-ray_/large/large_voyage_bottom_sea_blu-ray_subs.jpg

    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/batman/images/5/56/United_World_Security_Council.png/revision/latest?cb=20240628045936

    Here’s a review of the 1966 movie although he gets a lot of stuff wrong >>>>
    https://www.cbr.com/things-never-made-sense-about-1966-batman-movie/


    This guys complains they are wearing masks while committing crimes?
    They're criminals. Of course they are wearing masks! LOL


    Yes! And Catwoman had apparently never been unmasked at this point, which >> kept them from recognizing her as Miss Kitka!

    Yeah, that’s a stupid complaint. Especially since two of them don’t wear >> masks and Miss Kitka wears a lot more mask than he claims. So he’s really >> only talking about the Riddler. And I bet if you tried to get somebody to
    identify a villain in court. His lawyer would make a big deal out of the
    fact that he was masked so how can you be sure?

    And the navy didn't sale a boat to The Penguin. They sold a surplus
    boat to a Mr. Guin. Who could have possibly known Mr. Guin would be up
    to no good?

    You have to wonder how much money the penguin had that he’s buying a
    submarine and completely refitting it in order to commit another crime!


    Regarding Batman letting Penguin into the cave, maybe I'm misremembering >>> it, but didn't Batman always see through the disguise and *know* it was
    really Penguin?

    Yeah, Batman and Robin agreed it was obviously the penguin when they first >> met him on the docks.


    And is this guy really complaining that there's kissing in the movie?
    Who is this guy?!?

    That was weird.

    I will give him that the bat boat just sitting there unguarded in the
    middle of nowhere is a bit odd.

    But he’s wrong about the bat cycle. They don’t just leave it there in the
    bushes. It was obviously planted for them to use, when they faked the
    breakdown of the Batmobile.



    Maybe I'll give him the porpoise scene. That was a bit farfetched.


    Yeah. Maybe less so in 1966 when we were still watchingFlipper.



    But don't forget, "better script." I'm thinking Plan 9 Outer Space >>>>>>> redone as "Ed Wood" or "The Room" redone as "The Disaster Artist." Two >>>>>>> examples of bad movies that mocked because they were so bad, yet given a
    new *everything* it becomes entertaining. Not a mock it level, but a >>>>>>> good actors with a good script level.

    Then there are the straight remakes like "Little Shop of Horrors"or >>>>>>> "The Thing." Not that the originals were necessarily bad movies, but >>>>>>> between the originals and the remakes, I'll take the remakes.

    I think the 1951 version of THE THING (from another world) is one of the >>>>>> best movies ever made. Classic Howard Hawks.

    I like the 1982 version as well. But from a rewatch viewpoint, the 1951 >>>>>> version has it beat.


    I think I've only watched the 1951 version all the way through once, >>>>> maybe twice. It's interesting as compared to the far superior John
    Carpenter version. But other than as a curiosity I have no real use for >>>>> it. ;-)

    I don't think I could even force myself to watch it if I wasn't going to >>>>> watch the remake next.

    Do you ever watch 1951, then 1982, then 2011?

    Or possibly 1951, 2011, 1982?



    Since 2011, it's been 2011 then 1982. I've never owned the 1951 version >>> in any format so watching it has never been a consideration. Prior to
    that I probably just treated it as a standalone movie. I don't recall
    ever really pairing it with anything.

    I do recall many years ago I had step brother who never saw it before so >>> I showed it to him and it was like a real life reaction video as he
    oohed and awed in amazement of the movie.

    You mean 1951? Or 1982?


    I showed the 1982 version.

    The Thing Facebook group I’m in, most people absolutely hate 2011 and
    complain about how bad the CGI effects look. I don’t get what they’re >> seeing.


    I don't get the complaints either. My only annoyance is they couldn't be bothered to think up an original title for the remake.


    “The Thing Begins“

    There. How difficult was that?



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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Dec 23 03:43:30 2024
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

    This guys complains they are wearing masks while committing crimes?
    They're criminals. Of course they are wearing masks! LOL

    And the navy didn't sale a boat to The Penguin. They sold a surplus
    boat to a Mr. Guin. Who could have possibly known Mr. Guin would be up
    to no good?

    Regarding Batman letting Penguin into the cave, maybe I'm misremembering
    it, but didn't Batman always see through the disguise and *know* it was >really Penguin?

    And is this guy really complaining that there's kissing in the movie?
    Who is this guy?!?

    Maybe I'll give him the porpoise scene. That was a bit farfetched.

    Did you say that on dolphin?

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  • From Arthur Lipscomb@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Dec 23 08:43:14 2024
    On 12/22/2024 8:07 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/21/2024 3:22 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

    "A Star is Born" is a movie with multiple versions. I watched all
    them and didn't like any version, until the most recent version.

    I've never managed to sit through any version, even though I know people in >>> the Kris Kristofferson one since it was shot here. And doesn’t another >>> version star James Mason?

    The 1954 version with Judy Garland. I think TCM had a marathon one day
    starting with the 1937 version, and I recorded and watched them all.
    This was long before the most recent remake. Somewhat interesting, and
    you wouldn't pick up on this if you haven't watched the 1937 version,
    but in the original version they were actors, then in 54 with Judy
    Garland and every version since, they've hired singers.

    Even though I didn't like the original movie(s) I kept watching them
    because I felt there was definitely a good concept in there. They just
    needed the right script, cast, director, etc. and eventually they made a
    version that I did like. And for that, I'm glad I kept watching the
    remakes.

    I keep telling you that What Price Hollywood? (1932) starring Constance Bennett and Lowell Sherman is the original, that A Star Is Born (1937) starring Janet Gaynor and Fredric March was an unlicensed ripoff by
    another studio. I liked both '30s movies because the two actresses are
    just gorgeous.


    If TCM didn't show it, then it doesn't exist in this dojo.

    Note that Judy Garland's band leader had been a female character in the
    two earlier versions.

    . . .

    Yes, I *almost* said that. I think it was a quote from Roger Ebert
    about remaking the bad movies instead of the good ones. But I'm all for
    remaking the good ones too! I know it's been in the works for forever,
    but just last month they gave a new announcement about the "Forbidden
    Planet" planet. People are going apoplectic over the possible remake.
    But I really *liked* the original, and I would very much like to see
    where that story goes next with either a *good* remake or a *good*
    sequel. As long as the movie is entertaining, I don't care if it's a
    remake or a sequel.

    Uh, Forbidden Planet was not original. It was an adaptation of The
    Tempest in an off world futuristic setting.

    There weren't too many Star Trek scripts that weren't adapted from Shakespeare or the Bible or a story from the ancient Greeks. Since the
    Greeks invented theater, what's original?


    Tell that to anyone who complains about them doing a remake!

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Dec 23 17:23:49 2024
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 12/22/2024 8:07 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    I keep telling you that What Price Hollywood? (1932) starring Constance >>Bennett and Lowell Sherman is the original, that A Star Is Born (1937) >>starring Janet Gaynor and Fredric March was an unlicensed ripoff by
    another studio. I liked both '30s movies because the two actresses are
    just gorgeous.

    If TCM didn't show it, then it doesn't exist in this dojo.

    TCM has shown it.

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