• (Tears) The Drowned World by J. G. Ballard

    From James Nicoll@3:633/10 to All on Sun Sep 20 12:27:19 2026
    The Drowned World by J. G. Ballard

    For biologist Dr. Robert Kerans, tropical London is Eden... and
    every Eden has its serpent.

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/let-there-be-sunlight
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  • From William Hyde@3:633/10 to All on Sun Sep 20 16:36:52 2026
    James Nicoll wrote:
    The Drowned World by J. G. Ballard

    For biologist Dr. Robert Kerans, tropical London is Eden... and
    every Eden has its serpent.

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/let-there-be-sunlight

    Ballard wrote four disaster novels in the 1960s. It's what British
    authors did, but he did it differently.

    He wasn't always concerned about the reason for each disaster.

    In "The Wind from Nowhere", the first, he gives no reason, as the title implies. In the end he wasn't keen on the idea, but he had eleven days
    to write the book before returning to a job he disliked. Sales of the
    book enabled him to be a full-time writer. Those were the days!

    In "The Drowned World" he actually has a mechanism, an increase in solar output. Even if anthorpogenic warming was a common topic at the time,
    he might not have used it as it would confuse the message. It is
    important for the book that the disaster not be of human making. The
    human response to the changed world must not get too muddled with
    assigning blame to other humans. That would have been a different book.

    In "The Drought", though, the disaster is of human making, as pollution
    leads via some chemical handwaving to a near total reduction in
    evaporation from the oceans. This is not just a rewrite of "The
    Drowned world" in reverse, bur is a much more complex book.

    In "The Crystal World" no explanation is given for the crystallization
    disease that affects living things (as far as I recall, anyway). Nor is
    it clear that this is a world-ending disaster or even a bad thing in the
    end. The book got more attention outside SF than usual:

    "Beautifully rendered Ballard the poet in full ecstatic blast." ?Anthony Burgess

    Apparently an editor thought that Ballard had made a typo in the ending
    of "The Drowned World". Surely, he told Ballard, Kearns should go
    north, not south, at the end?

    William Hyde

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  • From John Savard@3:633/10 to All on Wed Sep 23 01:13:58 2026
    Oh, dear. Doesn't sound like the sort of book I'd be interested in.
    It's not enough for me for them to, in the traditional SF style,
    discover how to reverse climate change; they need to raise everyone
    from the dead who was killed in the disaster!
    But the whole conflict seems to make no sense. Let the looters loot,
    don't pick a fight with them you can't win. So I may have trouble
    relating to the plot.

    John Savard

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  • From Scott Dorsey@3:633/10 to All on Wed Sep 23 09:22:57 2026
    John Savard <quadibloc@invalid.com> wrote:
    Oh, dear. Doesn't sound like the sort of book I'd be interested in.
    It's not enough for me for them to, in the traditional SF style,
    discover how to reverse climate change; they need to raise everyone
    from the dead who was killed in the disaster!

    Plan Nine? Isn't that the one which involves the resurrection of the dead? --scott
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  • From William Hyde@3:633/10 to All on Wed Sep 23 15:25:21 2026
    John Savard wrote:
    Oh, dear. Doesn't sound like the sort of book I'd be interested in.

    I think we can safely say that none of Ballard's SF is for you.

    You might possibly enjoy his non-SF work, "Empire of the Sun". After
    all, the Japanese are indeed defeated, if not by the sixteen year old protagonist.

    William Hyde

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  • From BCFD 36@3:633/10 to All on Wed Sep 23 14:52:03 2026
    On 9/23/26 12:25, William Hyde wrote:
    John Savard wrote:
    Oh, dear. Doesn't sound like the sort of book I'd be interested in.

    I think we can safely say that none of Ballard's SF is for you.

    You might possibly enjoy his non-SF work, "Empire of the Sun".ÿ After
    all, the Japanese are indeed defeated, if not by the sixteen year old protagonist.

    William Hyde

    It was also an outstanding movie.

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  • From BCFD 36@3:633/10 to All on Wed Sep 23 14:56:34 2026
    On 9/20/26 05:27, James Nicoll wrote:
    The Drowned World by J. G. Ballard

    For biologist Dr. Robert Kerans, tropical London is Eden... and
    every Eden has its serpent.

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/let-there-be-sunlight
    The only Ballard I have read is "The Drowned Giant". I had to read it
    for a SF class in college. It did nothing for me. I never read any more Ballard.

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    Senior Software Engineer - Lockheed Martin, et. al (mostly Retired)
    Captain - Boulder Creek Fire (Retired)
    Board of Directors - Boulder Creek Fire Protection District (What was I thinking?)

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  • From BobbieSellers@3:633/10 to All on Wed Sep 23 15:12:31 2026
    On 9/23/26 14:56, BCFD 36 wrote:
    On 9/20/26 05:27, James Nicoll wrote:
    The Drowned World by J. G. Ballard

    For biologist Dr. Robert Kerans, tropical London is Eden... and
    every Eden has its serpent.

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/let-there-be-sunlight
    The only Ballard I have read is "The Drowned Giant". I had to read it
    for a SF class in college. It did nothing for me. I never read any more Ballard.


    And I paid for paperbacks and took out Library books in order
    in my distant youth to read Ballard as it was the only serious SF
    found on the news stands. I am not surprised that you did not like
    it but he belongs to a certain time before we talked about global
    climate change and the results.

    bliss



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  • From William Hyde@3:633/10 to All on Wed Sep 23 22:16:34 2026
    BCFD 36 wrote:
    On 9/20/26 05:27, James Nicoll wrote:
    The Drowned World by J. G. Ballard

    For biologist Dr. Robert Kerans, tropical London is Eden... and
    every Eden has its serpent.

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/let-there-be-sunlight
    The only Ballard I have read is "The Drowned Giant". I had to read it
    for a SF class in college. It did nothing for me. I never read any more Ballard.

    In my teens the only Ballard short story I thought I understood at all
    was the overpopulation story, "Bilennium", and I probably didn't
    understand that either.

    "The Drowned Giant" I particularly didn't understand.

    I enjoyed most of them, nonetheless.

    Still, it was a relief to come across his disaster novels. Finally
    Ballard that made sense! More or less, anyway.

    I didn't really come to appreciate Ballard until much later.

    William Hyde

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