• "The Mandibles: A Family, 2029-2047" by Lionel Shriver

    From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Wed Jun 17 23:32:32 2026
    "The Mandibles: A Family, 2029-2047" by Lionel Shriver

    https://www.amazon.com/MANDIBLES-FAMILY-2029-47_PB-171-POCHE/dp/000756077X/

    A standalone, no prequel, no sequel, book about a financial apocalypse
    in the USA starting in 2029. I read the well printed and well bound 400
    page trade paperback published by Harper Perennial in 2017. BTW, this
    book is labeled as dystopian fiction by Amazon and others. I doubt that
    there will be any future prequels or sequels for the book as the author
    does not seem to go that way.

    The book covers four generations of a family in the near future. The
    family consists of about twenty people of whom I mostly did not like due
    to their overall craziness and attitudes about life. If there was
    anyone who came close, it was Florence Mandible who even as a single
    mother managed to buy a house in East Flatbush, NYC on a low income
    salary. But even she makes a lot of bad decisions that lead to a tough
    life. And I mostly liked Enola Mandible who was a successful author
    living in Europe but evacuated back to the USA due to supposed
    discrimination in Paris. Plus I liked Jarred Mandible who managed to
    get his patriarch grandfather to give him the money to buy a small farm
    in upper state New York.

    The conditions leading up to the beginning of the financial apocalypse
    in the USA in 2029 had their roots in Social Security, Medicare, and
    Medicaid, basically the Great Society federal and state programs. And
    in the continual wars and police actions started or participating in by
    the USA from WWI onward. One might exempt WWII from that list as WWII
    was supposedly actually good for the economics of the country but I have
    not researched that accepted fact for truthfulness.

    In 2029, the rest of the world changes from using the USA Dollar as the
    world reserve currency to the new Bancor, a basket of world currencies.
    The USA Treasury Bills, of which there are $40 trillion outstanding, immediately double their interest rates in the next sale. The USA
    President and Congress pass legislation that holding Bancors is illegal
    for any USA citizen. Under further financial pressure, the USA
    repudiates the entire $40 trillion debt and starts seizing all the gold
    across the country from both citizens and businesses. Even gold wedding
    rings are seized as China has demanded that their tbills be redeemed immediately with non USA Dollars.

    The patriarch of the Mandible family is a 97 year man with a fortune
    inherited from his grandparents who owned a steel mill. The patriarch
    has his fortune invested in gold stocks, stocks of gold bullion in
    central repositories, tbills, and the stock market. With the crash of
    the stock market, seizure of gold, and repudiation of all tbills, he is
    wiped out and he and his Alzheimer afflicted second wife move in with
    his son and his wife. And then the entire family ends up moving in with Florence in her tiny three bedroom house. But that quickly goes away
    also as the remaining family members are soon homeless and living in a park.

    The author freely acknowledges that in choosing paths for the family and
    the nation, she always chose the bad results path. She thinks that her
    book takes an optimistic view of the coming financial apocalypse which I
    find amazing.

    One thing that just blew me away. By 2042, the government required all workers to have a chip embedded at the base of their skull that reported
    all income and expenditures instantly. The chip reported all data to
    the government computers using satellites which was immediately taxed
    using government based checking accounts. No private banks allowed.

    Starlink anyone ?

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 4.2 out of 5 stars (4,704 ratings)

    Lynn

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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Wed Jun 17 23:36:40 2026
    On 6/17/2026 11:32 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    "The Mandibles: A Family, 2029-2047" by Lionel Shriver

    https://www.amazon.com/MANDIBLES-FAMILY-2029-47_PB-171-POCHE/dp/000756077X/

    A standalone, no prequel, no sequel, book about a financial apocalypse
    in the USA starting in 2029.ÿ I read the well printed and well bound 400 page trade paperback published by Harper Perennial in 2017.ÿ BTW, this
    book is labeled as dystopian fiction by Amazon and others.ÿ I doubt that there will be any future prequels or sequels for the book as the author
    does not seem to go that way.

    The book covers four generations of a family in the near future.ÿ The
    family consists of about twenty people of whom I mostly did not like due
    to their overall craziness and attitudes about life.ÿ If there was
    anyone who came close, it was Florence Mandible who even as a single
    mother managed to buy a house in East Flatbush, NYC on a low income
    salary.ÿ But even she makes a lot of bad decisions that lead to a tough life.ÿ And I mostly liked Enola Mandible who was a successful author
    living in Europe but evacuated back to the USA due to supposed discrimination in Paris.ÿ Plus I liked Jarred Mandible who managed to
    get his patriarch grandfather to give him the money to buy a small farm
    in upper state New York.

    The conditions leading up to the beginning of the financial apocalypse
    in the USA in 2029 had their roots in Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, basically the Great Society federal and state programs.ÿ And
    in the continual wars and police actions started or participating in by
    the USA from WWI onward.ÿ One might exempt WWII from that list as WWII
    was supposedly actually good for the economics of the country but I have
    not researched that accepted fact for truthfulness.

    In 2029, the rest of the world changes from using the USA Dollar as the world reserve currency to the new Bancor, a basket of world currencies.
    The USA Treasury Bills, of which there are $40 trillion outstanding, immediately double their interest rates in the next sale.ÿ The USA
    President and Congress pass legislation that holding Bancors is illegal
    for any USA citizen.ÿ Under further financial pressure, the USA
    repudiates the entire $40 trillion debt and starts seizing all the gold across the country from both citizens and businesses.ÿ Even gold wedding rings are seized as China has demanded that their tbills be redeemed immediately with non USA Dollars.

    The patriarch of the Mandible family is a 97 year man with a fortune inherited from his grandparents who owned a steel mill. The patriarch
    has his fortune invested in gold stocks, stocks of gold bullion in
    central repositories, tbills, and the stock market.ÿ With the crash of
    the stock market, seizure of gold, and repudiation of all tbills, he is wiped out and he and his Alzheimer afflicted second wife move in with
    his son and his wife.ÿ And then the entire family ends up moving in with Florence in her tiny three bedroom house.ÿ But that quickly goes away
    also as the remaining family members are soon homeless and living in a
    park.

    The author freely acknowledges that in choosing paths for the family and
    the nation, she always chose the bad results path.ÿ She thinks that her
    book takes an optimistic view of the coming financial apocalypse which I find amazing.

    One thing that just blew me away.ÿ By 2042, the government required all workers to have a chip embedded at the base of their skull that reported
    all income and expenditures instantly.ÿ The chip reported all data to
    the government computers using satellites which was immediately taxed
    using government based checking accounts.ÿ No private banks allowed.

    Starlink anyone ?

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 4.2 out of 5 stars (4,704 ratings)

    Lynn

    I forgot to mention that this was a reread of a book that I bought from
    Amazon in 2021.

    Lynn


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  • From BobbieSellers@3:633/10 to All on Wed Jun 17 21:48:06 2026
    On 6/17/26 21:36, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 6/17/2026 11:32 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    "The Mandibles: A Family, 2029-2047" by Lionel Shriver

    https://www.amazon.com/MANDIBLES-FAMILY-2029-47_PB-171-POCHE/
    dp/000756077X/

    A standalone, no prequel, no sequel, book about a financial apocalypse
    in the USA starting in 2029.ÿ I read the well printed and well bound
    400 page trade paperback published by Harper Perennial in 2017.ÿ BTW,
    this book is labeled as dystopian fiction by Amazon and others.ÿ I
    doubt that there will be any future prequels or sequels for the book
    as the author does not seem to go that way.

    The book covers four generations of a family in the near future.ÿ The
    family consists of about twenty people of whom I mostly did not like
    due to their overall craziness and attitudes about life.ÿ If there was
    anyone who came close, it was Florence Mandible who even as a single
    mother managed to buy a house in East Flatbush, NYC on a low income
    salary.ÿ But even she makes a lot of bad decisions that lead to a
    tough life.ÿ And I mostly liked Enola Mandible who was a successful
    author living in Europe but evacuated back to the USA due to supposed
    discrimination in Paris.ÿ Plus I liked Jarred Mandible who managed to
    get his patriarch grandfather to give him the money to buy a small
    farm in upper state New York.

    The conditions leading up to the beginning of the financial apocalypse
    in the USA in 2029 had their roots in Social Security, Medicare, and
    Medicaid, basically the Great Society federal and state programs.ÿ And
    in the continual wars and police actions started or participating in
    by the USA from WWI onward.ÿ One might exempt WWII from that list as
    WWII was supposedly actually good for the economics of the country but
    I have not researched that accepted fact for truthfulness.

    In 2029, the rest of the world changes from using the USA Dollar as
    the world reserve currency to the new Bancor, a basket of world
    currencies. The USA Treasury Bills, of which there are $40 trillion
    outstanding, immediately double their interest rates in the next
    sale.ÿ The USA President and Congress pass legislation that holding
    Bancors is illegal for any USA citizen.ÿ Under further financial
    pressure, the USA repudiates the entire $40 trillion debt and starts
    seizing all the gold across the country from both citizens and
    businesses.ÿ Even gold wedding rings are seized as China has demanded
    that their tbills be redeemed immediately with non USA Dollars.

    The patriarch of the Mandible family is a 97 year man with a fortune
    inherited from his grandparents who owned a steel mill. The patriarch
    has his fortune invested in gold stocks, stocks of gold bullion in
    central repositories, tbills, and the stock market.ÿ With the crash of
    the stock market, seizure of gold, and repudiation of all tbills, he
    is wiped out and he and his Alzheimer afflicted second wife move in
    with his son and his wife.ÿ And then the entire family ends up moving
    in with Florence in her tiny three bedroom house.ÿ But that quickly
    goes away also as the remaining family members are soon homeless and
    living in a park.

    The author freely acknowledges that in choosing paths for the family
    and the nation, she always chose the bad results path.ÿ She thinks
    that her book takes an optimistic view of the coming financial
    apocalypse which I find amazing.

    One thing that just blew me away.ÿ By 2042, the government required
    all workers to have a chip embedded at the base of their skull that
    reported all income and expenditures instantly.ÿ The chip reported all
    data to the government computers using satellites which was
    immediately taxed using government based checking accounts.ÿ No
    private banks allowed.

    Starlink anyone ?

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 4.2 out of 5 stars (4,704 ratings)

    Lynn

    I forgot to mention that this was a reread of a book that I bought from Amazon in 2021.

    Lynn


    You also forgot to mention that the financial problems arise not from the mentioned social programs but from the failure of the most well
    off in terms of cash to pay their just share of taxes. They who profit
    by the wars should help pay for the wars.

    bliss

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  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Thu Jun 18 08:30:07 2026
    On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 23:36:40 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/17/2026 11:32 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    "The Mandibles: A Family, 2029-2047" by Lionel Shriver


    https://www.amazon.com/MANDIBLES-FAMILY-2029-47_PB-171-POCHE/dp/000756077
    X/

    A standalone, no prequel, no sequel, book about a financial apocalypse

    in the USA starting in 2029.? I read the well printed and well bound
    400
    page trade paperback published by Harper Perennial in 2017.? BTW,
    this
    book is labeled as dystopian fiction by Amazon and others.? I doubt
    that
    there will be any future prequels or sequels for the book as the
    author
    does not seem to go that way.

    The book covers four generations of a family in the near future.?
    The
    family consists of about twenty people of whom I mostly did not like
    due
    to their overall craziness and attitudes about life.? If there was
    anyone who came close, it was Florence Mandible who even as a single
    mother managed to buy a house in East Flatbush, NYC on a low income
    salary.? But even she makes a lot of bad decisions that lead to a
    tough
    life.? And I mostly liked Enola Mandible who was a successful author

    living in Europe but evacuated back to the USA due to supposed
    discrimination in Paris.? Plus I liked Jarred Mandible who managed
    to
    get his patriarch grandfather to give him the money to buy a small
    farm
    in upper state New York.

    The conditions leading up to the beginning of the financial apocalypse

    in the USA in 2029 had their roots in Social Security, Medicare, and
    Medicaid, basically the Great Society federal and state programs.?
    And
    in the continual wars and police actions started or participating in
    by
    the USA from WWI onward.? One might exempt WWII from that list as
    WWII
    was supposedly actually good for the economics of the country but I
    have
    not researched that accepted fact for truthfulness.

    In 2029, the rest of the world changes from using the USA Dollar as
    the
    world reserve currency to the new Bancor, a basket of world
    currencies.
    The USA Treasury Bills, of which there are $40 trillion outstanding,
    immediately double their interest rates in the next sale.? The USA
    President and Congress pass legislation that holding Bancors is
    illegal
    for any USA citizen.? Under further financial pressure, the USA
    repudiates the entire $40 trillion debt and starts seizing all the
    gold
    across the country from both citizens and businesses.? Even gold
    wedding
    rings are seized as China has demanded that their tbills be redeemed
    immediately with non USA Dollars.

    The patriarch of the Mandible family is a 97 year man with a fortune
    inherited from his grandparents who owned a steel mill. The patriarch
    has his fortune invested in gold stocks, stocks of gold bullion in
    central repositories, tbills, and the stock market.? With the crash
    of
    the stock market, seizure of gold, and repudiation of all tbills, he
    is
    wiped out and he and his Alzheimer afflicted second wife move in with
    his son and his wife.? And then the entire family ends up moving in
    with
    Florence in her tiny three bedroom house.? But that quickly goes
    away
    also as the remaining family members are soon homeless and living in a

    park.

    The author freely acknowledges that in choosing paths for the family
    and
    the nation, she always chose the bad results path.? She thinks that
    her
    book takes an optimistic view of the coming financial apocalypse which
    I
    find amazing.

    One thing that just blew me away.? By 2042, the government required
    all
    workers to have a chip embedded at the base of their skull that
    reported
    all income and expenditures instantly.? The chip reported all data
    to
    the government computers using satellites which was immediately taxed
    using government based checking accounts.? No private banks allowed.

    Starlink anyone ?

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 4.2 out of 5 stars (4,704 ratings)

    Lynn

    I forgot to mention that this was a reread of a book that I bought from >Amazon in 2021.

    It seems /awfully/ familiar.

    Are we sure it isn't a re-review as well?
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Thu Jun 18 08:32:44 2026
    On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 21:48:06 -0700, BobbieSellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextremeinvalid.com> wrote:

    On 6/17/26 21:36, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 6/17/2026 11:32 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    <snippo>

    I forgot to mention that this was a reread of a book that I bought
    from
    Amazon in 2021.

    You also forgot to mention that the financial problems arise not from
    the mentioned social programs but from the failure of the most well
    off in terms of cash to pay their just share of taxes. They who profit
    by the wars should help pay for the wars.

    Now, now, you're disturbing his fantasies.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From James Nicoll@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jun 19 02:20:41 2026
    In article <3n383lhvbeo4ubmqs7ulscm95o8ve00jb6@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 23:36:40 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    I forgot to mention that this was a reread of a book that I bought from >>Amazon in 2021.

    It seems /awfully/ familiar.

    Are we sure it isn't a re-review as well?

    _I_ reviewed it here in 2017, I think. Maybe you're remembering that?

    http://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/im-riding-high-upon-a-deep-depression

    (My site seems to be timing out just now. I will sent a note if it is not
    fixed by morning)
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    My Dreamwidth at https://james-davis-nicoll.dreamwidth.org/
    My patreon is at https://www.patreon.com/jamesdnicoll

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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Thu Jun 18 21:45:32 2026
    On 6/18/2026 9:20 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
    In article <3n383lhvbeo4ubmqs7ulscm95o8ve00jb6@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 23:36:40 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    I forgot to mention that this was a reread of a book that I bought from
    Amazon in 2021.

    It seems /awfully/ familiar.

    Are we sure it isn't a re-review as well?

    _I_ reviewed it here in 2017, I think. Maybe you're remembering that?

    http://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/im-riding-high-upon-a-deep-depression

    (My site seems to be timing out just now. I will sent a note if it is not fixed by morning)

    Dadgumit, I forgot to look to see if you had reviewed the book.

    And yes, I cannot get your review up right now.

    Lynn


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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Thu Jun 18 21:54:24 2026
    On 6/18/2026 10:30 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 23:36:40 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/17/2026 11:32 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    "The Mandibles: A Family, 2029-2047" by Lionel Shriver

    https://www.amazon.com/MANDIBLES-FAMILY-2029-47_PB-171-POCHE/dp/000756077X/ >>>
    A standalone, no prequel, no sequel, book about a financial apocalypse
    in the USA starting in 2029.ÿ I read the well printed and well bound 400 >>> page trade paperback published by Harper Perennial in 2017.ÿ BTW, this
    book is labeled as dystopian fiction by Amazon and others.ÿ I doubt that >>> there will be any future prequels or sequels for the book as the author
    does not seem to go that way.

    The book covers four generations of a family in the near future.ÿ The
    family consists of about twenty people of whom I mostly did not like due >>> to their overall craziness and attitudes about life.ÿ If there was
    anyone who came close, it was Florence Mandible who even as a single
    mother managed to buy a house in East Flatbush, NYC on a low income
    salary.ÿ But even she makes a lot of bad decisions that lead to a tough
    life.ÿ And I mostly liked Enola Mandible who was a successful author
    living in Europe but evacuated back to the USA due to supposed
    discrimination in Paris.ÿ Plus I liked Jarred Mandible who managed to
    get his patriarch grandfather to give him the money to buy a small farm
    in upper state New York.

    The conditions leading up to the beginning of the financial apocalypse
    in the USA in 2029 had their roots in Social Security, Medicare, and
    Medicaid, basically the Great Society federal and state programs.ÿ And
    in the continual wars and police actions started or participating in by
    the USA from WWI onward.ÿ One might exempt WWII from that list as WWII
    was supposedly actually good for the economics of the country but I have >>> not researched that accepted fact for truthfulness.

    In 2029, the rest of the world changes from using the USA Dollar as the
    world reserve currency to the new Bancor, a basket of world currencies.
    The USA Treasury Bills, of which there are $40 trillion outstanding,
    immediately double their interest rates in the next sale.ÿ The USA
    President and Congress pass legislation that holding Bancors is illegal
    for any USA citizen.ÿ Under further financial pressure, the USA
    repudiates the entire $40 trillion debt and starts seizing all the gold
    across the country from both citizens and businesses.ÿ Even gold wedding >>> rings are seized as China has demanded that their tbills be redeemed
    immediately with non USA Dollars.

    The patriarch of the Mandible family is a 97 year man with a fortune
    inherited from his grandparents who owned a steel mill. The patriarch
    has his fortune invested in gold stocks, stocks of gold bullion in
    central repositories, tbills, and the stock market.ÿ With the crash of
    the stock market, seizure of gold, and repudiation of all tbills, he is
    wiped out and he and his Alzheimer afflicted second wife move in with
    his son and his wife.ÿ And then the entire family ends up moving in with >>> Florence in her tiny three bedroom house.ÿ But that quickly goes away
    also as the remaining family members are soon homeless and living in a
    park.

    The author freely acknowledges that in choosing paths for the family and >>> the nation, she always chose the bad results path.ÿ She thinks that her
    book takes an optimistic view of the coming financial apocalypse which I >>> find amazing.

    One thing that just blew me away.ÿ By 2042, the government required all
    workers to have a chip embedded at the base of their skull that reported >>> all income and expenditures instantly.ÿ The chip reported all data to
    the government computers using satellites which was immediately taxed
    using government based checking accounts.ÿ No private banks allowed.

    Starlink anyone ?

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 4.2 out of 5 stars (4,704 ratings)

    Lynn

    I forgot to mention that this was a reread of a book that I bought from
    Amazon in 2021.

    It seems /awfully/ familiar.

    Are we sure it isn't a re-review as well?

    Yes, I reviewed it here in 2022. I added some more content to this review.

    I always put up a review for rereads now. And for new reads. I have
    reviewed about 1,400 new books since 2002 on Big River. I think that I
    start placing my reviews here in 2010 but I am not sure at all.

    Lynn


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