• ?IEA?s Birol Says Iran War Will Permanently Cut Into Future Oil Demand?

    From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Fri Apr 24 21:25:22 2026
    ?IEA?s Birol Says Iran War Will Permanently Cut Into Future Oil Demand?

    https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/IEAs-Birol-Says-Iran-War-Will-Permanently-Cut-Into-Future-Oil-Demand.html

    ?International Energy Agency chief Fatih Birol says the Iran war has permanently changed the fossil fuel industry and will accelerate a shift toward renewables, nuclear power and electrification at the expense of
    oil demand.?

    Meh. The demand for oil is very elastic based on the price. People
    have temporary options to move to something else or they stop using
    energy for a while.

    When and if the price for oil drops, the demand will skyrocket again.
    Oil is just too flexible as an energy source for people to walk away
    from it.

    Lynn


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  • From Bobbie Sellers@3:633/10 to All on Fri Apr 24 20:08:18 2026
    Subject: Re: ?IEA?s Birol Says Iran War Will Permanently Cut Into Future Oil Demand?



    On 4/24/26 19:25, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    ?IEA?s Birol Says Iran War Will Permanently Cut Into Future Oil Demand?

    https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/IEAs-Birol-Says-Iran- War-Will-Permanently-Cut-Into-Future-Oil-Demand.html

    ?International Energy Agency chief Fatih Birol says the Iran war has permanently changed the fossil fuel industry and will accelerate a shift toward renewables, nuclear power and electrification at the expense of
    oil demand.?

    Meh.˙ The demand for oil is very elastic based on the price.˙ People
    have temporary options to move to something else or they stop using
    energy for a while.

    When and if the price for oil drops, the demand will skyrocket again.
    Oil is just too flexible as an energy source for people to walk away
    from it.

    Lynn


    Such may be your hope and desire but i hope you live long enough
    to enjoy a hot house earth. That is what your desire will achieve.

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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Fri Apr 24 22:32:35 2026
    Subject: Re: ?IEA?s Birol Says Iran War Will Permanently Cut Into Future Oil Demand?

    On 4/24/2026 10:08 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


    On 4/24/26 19:25, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    ?IEA?s Birol Says Iran War Will Permanently Cut Into Future Oil Demand?

    https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/IEAs-Birol-Says-
    Iran- War-Will-Permanently-Cut-Into-Future-Oil-Demand.html

    ?International Energy Agency chief Fatih Birol says the Iran war has
    permanently changed the fossil fuel industry and will accelerate a
    shift toward renewables, nuclear power and electrification at the
    expense of oil demand.?

    Meh.˙ The demand for oil is very elastic based on the price.˙ People
    have temporary options to move to something else or they stop using
    energy for a while.

    When and if the price for oil drops, the demand will skyrocket again.
    Oil is just too flexible as an energy source for people to walk away
    from it.

    Lynn


    ˙˙˙˙Such may be your hope and desire but i hope you live long enough
    to enjoy a hot house earth.˙ That is what your desire will achieve.

    I am way past my "use by" date already. I was born without a heart
    right coronary artery. Pistol Pete was born without his heart left
    coronary artery and he passed away at age 40. I am 65 and had my first
    heart attack at 49 and the second at 53. I survived both my heart
    surgeries and am living the good life, hoping to make it to 70. My
    heart is only 30% enlarged and 20% dead (the back side where the right
    artery feeds). God designed us with a single pump system but only for
    45 years according to my best guess so I am way past that.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Maravich

    Earth will not grow hot due to the greenhouse effect. Greenhouses are
    closed systems but Earth is an open system. But, Earth may grow warm
    due to total energy usage by the human race which is growing at 3 to 5%
    per year. But no significant heat up for hundreds of years. The solar
    power satellites will be going up soon, maybe in 2029, and solar energy
    that would normally bypass Earth will be captured and microwaved to
    receiving stations on Earth. Plus nuclear is at a renaissance and we
    will see around a 50 to 60 new large nuclear power plants in the next
    ten years and 400 to 500 small nuclear power plants also in the next ten years. Maybe double that if the new small nuclear plants really take off.

    We are spoiled, we still live in an Ice Age. An Ice Age is defined as
    when one or both of the poles are frozen. Earth has been much warmer in
    the not so distant past.

    Lynn


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  • From Bobbie Sellers@3:633/10 to All on Fri Apr 24 21:06:22 2026
    Subject: Re: ?IEA?s Birol Says Iran War Will Permanently Cut Into Future Oil Demand?



    On 4/24/26 20:32, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 4/24/2026 10:08 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


    On 4/24/26 19:25, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    ?IEA?s Birol Says Iran War Will Permanently Cut Into Future Oil Demand?

    https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/IEAs-Birol-Says-
    Iran- War-Will-Permanently-Cut-Into-Future-Oil-Demand.html

    ?International Energy Agency chief Fatih Birol says the Iran war has
    permanently changed the fossil fuel industry and will accelerate a
    shift toward renewables, nuclear power and electrification at the
    expense of oil demand.?

    Meh.˙ The demand for oil is very elastic based on the price.˙ People
    have temporary options to move to something else or they stop using
    energy for a while.

    When and if the price for oil drops, the demand will skyrocket again.
    Oil is just too flexible as an energy source for people to walk away
    from it.

    Lynn


    ˙˙˙˙˙Such may be your hope and desire but i hope you live long enough
    to enjoy a hot house earth.˙ That is what your desire will achieve.

    I am way past my "use by" date already.˙ I was born without a heart
    right coronary artery.˙ Pistol Pete was born without his heart left
    coronary artery and he passed away at age 40.˙ I am 65 and had my first heart attack at 49 and the second at 53.˙ I survived both my heart
    surgeries and am living the good life, hoping to make it to 70.˙ My
    heart is only 30% enlarged and 20% dead (the back side where the right artery feeds).˙ God designed us with a single pump system but only for
    45 years according to my best guess so I am way past that.
    ˙˙ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Maravich

    Earth will not grow hot due to the greenhouse effect.˙ Greenhouses are closed systems but Earth is an open system.˙ But, Earth may grow warm
    due to total energy usage by the human race which is growing at 3 to 5%
    per year.˙ But no significant heat up for hundreds of years.˙ The solar power satellites will be going up soon, maybe in 2029, and solar energy
    that would normally bypass Earth will be captured and microwaved to receiving stations on Earth.˙ Plus nuclear is at a renaissance and we
    will see around a 50 to 60 new large nuclear power plants in the next

    Whales and penguins are dying for lack of their proper food and nesting sites. Sharks are dying of overheating.
    The Ocean is already too hot and we will derive less and less protein from
    that source. Insect vectors for many diseases are moving North and South
    and intruding into areas that have no natural predators on these illness spreading
    pests.
    Places in the world where Humanity has existed for many years are getting
    too hot for survival. Low-lying agricultural lands in Asia are being
    flooded every
    growing season.

    I am lucky that I did not suffer your debility.
    ten years and 400 to 500 small nuclear power plants also in the next ten
    years.˙ Maybe double that if the new small nuclear plants really take off.

    We are spoiled, we still live in an Ice Age.˙ An Ice Age is defined as
    when one or both of the poles are frozen.˙ Earth has been much warmer in
    the not so distant past.

    Lynn



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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Sat Apr 25 04:40:19 2026
    Subject: Re: ?IEA?s Birol Says Iran War Will Permanently Cut Into Future Oil Demand?

    On Fri, 24 Apr 2026 21:25:22 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    ?IEA?s Birol Says Iran War Will Permanently Cut Into Future Oil Demand?

    https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/IEAs-Birol-Says-Iran-War-Will-Permanently-Cut-Into-Future-Oil-Demand.html

    ?International Energy Agency chief Fatih Birol says the Iran war has permanently changed the fossil fuel industry and will accelerate a
    shift toward renewables, nuclear power and electrification at the
    expense of oil demand.?

    Meh. The demand for oil is very elastic based on the price.

    Actually, if oil were that essential and irreplaceable, demand would
    be very *in*elastic -- people would pay whatever it takes, rather than
    do without. The fact that people *can* substitute something else means
    that higher oil prices will encourage them to do so.

    And the worry about this sort of nonsense happening again will make
    them a bit reluctant to switch back in future. Once bitten, twice shy,
    and all that.

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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Sat Apr 25 04:41:26 2026
    Subject: Re: ?IEA?s Birol Says Iran War Will Permanently Cut Into Future Oil Demand?

    On Fri, 24 Apr 2026 22:32:35 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    Earth will not grow hot due to the greenhouse effect. Greenhouses
    are closed systems but Earth is an open system.

    Maybe you don?t understand what ?closed? and ?open? systems are.
    Greenhouses are very much ?open? systems.

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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Sat Apr 25 00:18:25 2026
    Subject: Re: ?IEA?s Birol Says Iran War Will Permanently Cut Into Future Oil Demand?

    On 4/24/2026 11:40 PM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    On Fri, 24 Apr 2026 21:25:22 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    ?IEA?s Birol Says Iran War Will Permanently Cut Into Future Oil Demand?

    https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/IEAs-Birol-Says-Iran-War-Will-Permanently-Cut-Into-Future-Oil-Demand.html

    ?International Energy Agency chief Fatih Birol says the Iran war has
    permanently changed the fossil fuel industry and will accelerate a
    shift toward renewables, nuclear power and electrification at the
    expense of oil demand.?

    Meh. The demand for oil is very elastic based on the price.

    Actually, if oil were that essential and irreplaceable, demand would
    be very *in*elastic -- people would pay whatever it takes, rather than
    do without. The fact that people *can* substitute something else means
    that higher oil prices will encourage them to do so.

    And the worry about this sort of nonsense happening again will make
    them a bit reluctant to switch back in future. Once bitten, twice shy,
    and all that.

    We have had several oil shortages or near shortages in my lifetime.
    People keep on going back to it because of the energy density and the convenience.

    However, when the price gets too high, people also shut down the
    processes that they were running until the price gets in line again.
    For instance, many factories have their own power generation using
    mostly diesel or natural gas. When the price of fuel gets too high,
    they shut down until they can raise their prices or the price of the
    fuel goes back down.

    Lynn


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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Sat Apr 25 05:53:32 2026
    Subject: Re: ?IEA?s Birol Says Iran War Will Permanently Cut Into Future Oil Demand?

    On Sat, 25 Apr 2026 00:18:25 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    We have had several oil shortages or near shortages in my lifetime.

    This is easily the worst one yet -- worse than the 1970s oil crisis.
    Not least because a madman keeps threatening to exterminate those who
    stand in his way.

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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Sat Apr 25 01:14:04 2026
    Subject: Re: ?IEA?s Birol Says Iran War Will Permanently Cut Into Future Oil Demand?

    On 4/25/2026 12:53 AM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sat, 25 Apr 2026 00:18:25 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    We have had several oil shortages or near shortages in my lifetime.

    This is easily the worst one yet -- worse than the 1970s oil crisis.
    Not least because a madman keeps threatening to exterminate those who
    stand in his way.

    You are kidding, right. The 1973 Arab Oil Embargo crippled the entire
    planet with massive shortages for several months from October 1973 to
    March 1974. The current oil shortage is not affecting the USA other
    than prices since we are mostly self supporting. And the USA uses 20%
    of the world's crude to support itself, Mexico, and Europe with
    distillate products.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

    Lynn


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  • From Sn!pe@3:633/10 to All on Sat Apr 25 09:09:18 2026
    Subject: Re: "IEA's Birol Says Iran War Will Permanently Cut Into Future Oil Demand"

    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    [...]

    We are spoiled, we still live in an Ice Age. An Ice Age is defined as when one or both of the poles are frozen. Earth has been much warmer in the
    not so distant past.


    True.

    The ratio of "greenhouse" to "icehouse" (ice age) periods is ~3:1.
    We are currently in an interglacial stage during an ice age. Earth
    has often switched between ice age and greenhouse conditions.


    ----[ChatGPT]----

    Over Earth's history, non-icehouse (ice-free) conditions have been
    more common than ice ages.

    A useful approximation:

    Icehouse periods (ice ages): ~20?25% of the last ~540 million years
    Greenhouse periods (no permanent ice): ~75?80%

    So the rough ratio is: about 1 : 3 (ice ages : non-ice ages)

    Examples for context:

    Major ice ages: Late Paleozoic, current Quaternary.
    Long ice-free stretches: much of the Mesozoic (when dinosaurs lived).

    This estimate depends on how strictly "ice age" is defined, but the
    overall pattern is clear: Earth spends most of its time without
    permanent polar ice.

    ----[end]----

    --
    ^?^. Sn!pe, bird-brain. My pet rock Gordon just is.


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