Subject: ?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per Gallon? consistently outpaces refiner earnings?

?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per Gallon? consistently outpaces refiner earnings?

https://www.oann.com/newsroom/the-california-premium-why-the-golden-states-take-per-gallon-consistently-outpaces-refiner-earnings/

?As California moves through 2026, a clear fiscal reality is visible at
the gas pump.?

?For every gallon of regular unleaded gasoline sold in the state,
combined taxes, fees, and regulatory program costs imposed by state and
local governments now represent a substantial portion of the final price
? frequently exceeding the net profit margins earned by refiners after
costs.?

?This has intensified debate over the persistent ?California Premium,?
the roughly $1.70?$1.90 per gallon gap between what Californians pay
compared to the national average.?

I know one place I do not want to move to, California.

Lynn


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Subject: Re: ?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per Gallon? consistently outpaces refiner earnings?

On 4/21/2026 5:19 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per Gallon? consistently outpaces refiner earnings?

https://www.oann.com/newsroom/the-california-premium-why-the-golden- states-take-per-gallon-consistently-outpaces-refiner-earnings/

?As California moves through 2026, a clear fiscal reality is visible at
the gas pump.?

?For every gallon of regular unleaded gasoline sold in the state,
combined taxes, fees, and regulatory program costs imposed by state and local governments now represent a substantial portion of the final price
? frequently exceeding the net profit margins earned by refiners after costs.?

All those taxes & fees don't come out of what the gas station charges,
they are in ADDITION to the what the gas station charges. OAN wouldn't
know reality if it bit their genitals off.

?This has intensified debate over the persistent ?California Premium,?
the roughly $1.70?$1.90 per gallon gap between what Californians pay compared to the national average.?

I know one place I do not want to move to, California.

Lynn

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

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Subject: Re: ?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per Gallon? consistently outpaces refiner earnings?



On 4/21/26 17:19, Lynn McGuire wrote:

?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per Gallon? consistently outpaces refiner earnings?

https://www.oann.com/newsroom/the-california-premium-why-the-golden- states-take-per-gallon-consistently-outpaces-refiner-earnings/

?As California moves through 2026, a clear fiscal reality is visible at
the gas pump.?

?For every gallon of regular unleaded gasoline sold in the state,
combined taxes, fees, and regulatory program costs imposed by state and local governments now represent a substantial portion of the final price
? frequently exceeding the net profit margins earned by refiners after costs.?

?This has intensified debate over the persistent ?California Premium,?
the roughly $1.70?$1.90 per gallon gap between what Californians pay compared to the national average.?

I know one place I do not want to move to, California.

Oh good!

Lynn

The gas tax pays for the roads. The refineries do not. The roads
including freeways, concrete, grave, and asphalt are not cheap and they are quite extensive since California is not a little state nor an
under-populated state.
The gasoline is formulated for the summer when more Californians are driving
to give less emissions of the sort that produce photochemical smog. By the
way not only Los Angeles but many agricultual areas have the problem of pollution. It was very bad in the Central Valley not so many years ago.
So we have refineries charging more for the special formulation and then California's tax on top of that to pay for the places that the
wheels may
turn delivering food and many other products to the people of the state...

In the San Francisco area we can have high levels of pollution and allergens but the City between the Ocean and the Bay frequently
enjoys refreshing breezes that cut the cost of air conditioning a lot.

Other parts of the San Francisco Bay Area are not so lucky.
We are having dampish weather currently but it should go away
in the next 24 hours. Maybe some thunder storms coming in.

bliss


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Subject: Re: ?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per Gallon? consistently outpaces refiner earnings?

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

<right-wing ravings elided>

I know one place I do not want to move to, California.

That's fine by us.

I've been to Houston. Didn't like it.



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Subject: Re: ?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per Gallon? consistently outpaces refiner earnings?

On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 17:45:11 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

On 4/21/2026 5:19 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per

Gallon?

consistently outpaces refiner earnings?

https://www.oann.com/newsroom/the-california-premium-why-the-golden-
states-take-per-gallon-consistently-outpaces-refiner-earnings/

?As California moves through 2026, a clear fiscal reality is visible

at

the gas pump.?

?For every gallon of regular unleaded gasoline sold in the state,
combined taxes, fees, and regulatory program costs imposed by state

and

local governments now represent a substantial portion of the final

price

? frequently exceeding the net profit margins earned by refiners

after

costs.?

All those taxes & fees don't come out of what the gas station charges,
they are in ADDITION to the what the gas station charges. OAN wouldn't
know reality if it bit their genitals off.

If you are thinking that the gas station charges, say, $5.9999 (local
price seen in Seattle) and that does /not/ include the various State
and Federal taxes (that is, that the station using part of the $5.9999
to pay the refinery and the rest to pay itself and then, out of the
generosity of its heart, pays some money to the State from some other
source) -- then you have, as Anna Russell once put it, "an enormous
echo chamber where your brains ought to be".

OAN may, indeed, have no knowledge of reality, but then, neither do
you.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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Subject: Re: ?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per Gallon? consistently outpaces refiner earnings?

On Wed, 22 Apr 2026 14:44:51 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

<right-wing ravings elided>

I know one place I do not want to move to, California.

That's fine by us.

I've been to Houston. Didn't like it.

The Army sent me to school at Goodfellow AFB twice.

The first time, a cold snap hit while our "temporary" wooden barrack's
furnace was half-way through a repair. We spent a weekend in very cold
weather.

The second time, I was amazed to see a rain storm turn a street into a
river because there were no drains and so nowhere else for the water
to go. At least the old temporary wooden barracks had been replaced
but something more substantial.

But I didn't mind living in Texas for a few months all that bad. For
an AFB, at least.

Note: the "temporary wooden barracks" were erected during the big Army
buildup in 1942. That they survived into 1971 was a tribute to their
builders, as they were expected to be gone in the mid-50s at the
latest.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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Subject: Re: ?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per Gallon? consistently outpaces refiner earnings?

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:

On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 17:45:11 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

On 4/21/2026 5:19 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

=93The =91California Premium=92: Why the Golden State=92s =91Take Per = >Gallon=92=20
consistently outpaces refiner earnings=94
=20
https://www.oann.com/newsroom/the-california-premium-why-the-golden-=20
states-take-per-gallon-consistently-outpaces-refiner-earnings/
=20
=93As California moves through 2026, a clear fiscal reality is visible=

at=20

the gas pump.=94
=20
=93For every gallon of regular unleaded gasoline sold in the state,=20
combined taxes, fees, and regulatory program costs imposed by state = >and=20
local governments now represent a substantial portion of the final = >price=20
=97 frequently exceeding the net profit margins earned by refiners = >after=20
costs.=94
=20

All those taxes & fees don't come out of what the gas station charges,=20 >>they are in ADDITION to the what the gas station charges. OAN wouldn't=20 >>know reality if it bit their genitals off.

If you are thinking that the gas station charges, say, $5.9999 (local
price seen in Seattle) and that does /not/ include the various State
and Federal taxes

I knew exactly what he meant, which was that the price at the pump
includes fees that don't get paid to the depot that supply the
fuel to the gas station nor do they profit to the station owner.

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Subject: Re: ?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per Gallon? consistently outpaces refiner earnings?

Scott Lurndal wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

<right-wing ravings elided>

I know one place I do not want to move to, California.

That's fine by us.

I've been to Houston. Didn't like it.

All big cities have good areas.

A friend lived in the Montrose area, near Rice. While I don't like the climate, I think it was a good area to live in. Good shops (bookstores!) restaurants, plenty of trees. They have a massive booze and food store
called Spec's, or possibly Specs. Back in my drinking days that was a paradise. For the food, it might still be.

Not so good when the wind came from the wrong area, though. And there
was a bit of a flooding problem on my last visit.

On my only trip to Dallas the driver could not understand that I didn't
want to visit the assassination site. Which perhaps colours my
impression of Dallas negatively.

But I'm going to join the hipster crowd and say that Austin is the best big-city place to live in in Texas. Bastrop, just outside of Austin, is supposed to be excellent. Moorcock lived there in his Texas years.
Which reminds me that I haven't read his book of Texas stories.

William Hyde


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Subject: Re: Re: ?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per Gallon? consistently outpaces refiner earnings?

William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> writes:

Scott Lurndal wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

<right-wing ravings elided>

I know one place I do not want to move to, California.

That's fine by us.

I've been to Houston. Didn't like it.

All big cities have good areas.

But the smog and humidity were the parts
of Houston that I disliked the most. Also
the spread-out nature of the metropolis made
getting anywhere painful. I have trouble
tolerating humidity and the area is flat, flat,
flat (after decades in California, flat is boring :-)

<snip>

On my only trip to Dallas the driver could not understand that I didn't >want to visit the assassination site. Which perhaps colours my
impression of Dallas negatively.

Most of my visits to Dallas were for conferences and meetings;
often the meeting was at the hotel in the middle of DFW, and
we seldom left the airport. Had a few good meals downtown.

I've been there visiting IBM during an ice storm in January, when there were more cars in the ditch than on the road.

But I'm going to join the hipster crowd and say that Austin is the best >big-city place to live in in Texas. Bastrop, just outside of Austin, is >supposed to be excellent. Moorcock lived there in his Texas years.
Which reminds me that I haven't read his book of Texas stories.

That was my favorite city in Texas. The music scene on 6th
street at night was fantastic; although I was last there in the 90s.

San Antonio is nice.

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Subject: Re: ?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per Gallon? consistently outpaces refiner earnings?

On 4/22/2026 9:23 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:

On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 17:45:11 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

On 4/21/2026 5:19 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

=93The =91California Premium=92: Why the Golden State=92s =91Take Per =

Gallon=92=20

consistently outpaces refiner earnings=94
=20
https://www.oann.com/newsroom/the-california-premium-why-the-golden-=20 >>>> states-take-per-gallon-consistently-outpaces-refiner-earnings/
=20
=93As California moves through 2026, a clear fiscal reality is visible=

at=20

the gas pump.=94
=20
=93For every gallon of regular unleaded gasoline sold in the state,=20 >>>> combined taxes, fees, and regulatory program costs imposed by state =

and=20

local governments now represent a substantial portion of the final =

price=20

=97 frequently exceeding the net profit margins earned by refiners =

after=20

costs.=94
=20

All those taxes & fees don't come out of what the gas station charges,=20 >>> they are in ADDITION to the what the gas station charges. OAN wouldn't=20 >>> know reality if it bit their genitals off.

If you are thinking that the gas station charges, say, $5.9999 (local
price seen in Seattle) and that does /not/ include the various State
and Federal taxes

I knew exactly what he meant, which was that the price at the pump
includes fees that don't get paid to the depot that supply the
fuel to the gas station nor do they profit to the station owner.

Correct, thank you.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

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Subject: Re: ?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per Gallon? consistently outpaces refiner earnings?

On Wed, 22 Apr 2026 16:23:28 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:

On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 17:45:11 -0700, Dimensional Traveler >><dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

On 4/21/2026 5:19 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

=93The =91California Premium=92: Why the Golden State=92s

=91Take Per =

Gallon=92=20

consistently outpaces refiner earnings=94
=20

https://www.oann.com/newsroom/the-california-premium-why-the-golden-=20

states-take-per-gallon-consistently-outpaces-refiner-earnings/
=20
=93As California moves through 2026, a clear fiscal reality is

visible=

at=20

the gas pump.=94
=20
=93For every gallon of regular unleaded gasoline sold in the

state,=20

combined taxes, fees, and regulatory program costs imposed by state

=

and=20

local governments now represent a substantial portion of the final = >>price=20
=97 frequently exceeding the net profit margins earned by refiners

=

after=20

costs.=94
=20

All those taxes & fees don't come out of what the gas station

charges,=20

they are in ADDITION to the what the gas station charges. OAN

wouldn't=20

know reality if it bit their genitals off.

If you are thinking that the gas station charges, say, $5.9999 (local
price seen in Seattle) and that does /not/ include the various State
and Federal taxes

I knew exactly what he meant, which was that the price at the pump
includes fees that don't get paid to the depot that supply the
fuel to the gas station nor do they profit to the station owner.

You know what he meant to say. The /gas station/ charges an amount
that /includes all costs, all taxes, and all profits/. This is how
commerce works.

And he made no mention of the depot supplying the gas.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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Subject: Re: ?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per Gallon? consistently outpaces refiner earnings?

On Wed, 22 Apr 2026 16:51:23 -0400, William Hyde
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

<snippo: visiting/living in Texas>

On my only trip to Dallas the driver could not understand that I didn't

want to visit the assassination site. Which perhaps colours my
impression of Dallas negatively.

I suspect that the driver asked because most visitors want to see it.

Or, at least, the driver thinks they do.

As to negativity, I suppose that would depend on whether they were
proud of it ("got rid of him!") or not.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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Subject: Re: ?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per Gallon? consistently outpaces refiner earnings?

Scott Lurndal wrote:

William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> writes:

Scott Lurndal wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

<right-wing ravings elided>

I know one place I do not want to move to, California.

That's fine by us.

I've been to Houston. Didn't like it.

All big cities have good areas.

But the smog and humidity were the parts
of Houston that I disliked the most. Also
the spread-out nature of the metropolis made
getting anywhere painful. I have trouble
tolerating humidity and the area is flat, flat,
flat (after decades in California, flat is boring :-)

I did forget to mention one downside. Your vote will be gerrymandered away.

William Hyde

<snip>

On my only trip to Dallas the driver could not understand that I didn't
want to visit the assassination site. Which perhaps colours my
impression of Dallas negatively.

Most of my visits to Dallas were for conferences and meetings;
often the meeting was at the hotel in the middle of DFW, and
we seldom left the airport. Had a few good meals downtown.

I've been there visiting IBM during an ice storm in January, when there were more cars in the ditch than on the road.

But I'm going to join the hipster crowd and say that Austin is the best
big-city place to live in in Texas. Bastrop, just outside of Austin, is
supposed to be excellent. Moorcock lived there in his Texas years.
Which reminds me that I haven't read his book of Texas stories.

That was my favorite city in Texas. The music scene on 6th
street at night was fantastic; although I was last there in the 90s.

San Antonio is nice.

Friends lived there a year and were not so happy. It looks nice in
parts, but not where they could afford to live (and she was a highly
qualified physician).

I enjoyed my one brief stay there.

William Hyde

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Subject: Re: ?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per Gallon? consistently outpaces refiner earnings?

Paul S Person wrote:

On Wed, 22 Apr 2026 16:51:23 -0400, William Hyde
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

<snippo: visiting/living in Texas>

On my only trip to Dallas the driver could not understand that I didn't
want to visit the assassination site. Which perhaps colours my
impression of Dallas negatively.

I suspect that the driver asked because most visitors want to see it.

Right, but he wouldn't shut up about it. He couldn't believe that I
didn't want to go there.

William Hyde


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Subject: Re: Re: ?The ?California Premium?: Why the Golden State?s ?Take Per Gallon? consistently outpaces refiner earnings?

William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> writes:

Scott Lurndal wrote:

William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> writes:

Scott Lurndal wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

<right-wing ravings elided>

I know one place I do not want to move to, California.

That's fine by us.

I've been to Houston. Didn't like it.

All big cities have good areas.

<snip>

But I'm going to join the hipster crowd and say that Austin is the best
big-city place to live in in Texas. Bastrop, just outside of Austin, is >>> supposed to be excellent. Moorcock lived there in his Texas years.
Which reminds me that I haven't read his book of Texas stories.

That was my favorite city in Texas. The music scene on 6th
street at night was fantastic; although I was last there in the 90s.

San Antonio is nice.

Friends lived there a year and were not so happy. It looks nice in
parts, but not where they could afford to live (and she was a highly >qualified physician).

I enjoyed my one brief stay there.

We flew from Saginaw to SA for a business meeting at Rack Space. Due to weather, the
flight was late, so we arrived at a fancy hotel about 1AM
only to find they'd given away our guaranteed late arrival reservations.

They put us up in a nearby embassy suites, which was the
most run-down ES that I'd ever stayed at (I was used to the
ES in Battery Park city where I stayed often) so we had at
least a couple hours of sleep before the 0900 meeting.

We were back at the airport by noon for a flight to Houston
and an afternoon meeting with Veritas DGC and on a flight
back to San Jose by early evening.


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