On 5/24/25 08:33, Paul S Person wrote:

On Fri, 23 May 2025 20:51:31 +0100, Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:

On 07/05/2025 14:39, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:

On 5/6/2025 11:41 PM, BCFD 36 wrote:

On 5/5/25 16:20, Lynn McGuire wrote:

"Starter Villain" by John Scalzi
ÿÿÿ https://www.amazon.com/Starter-Villain-John-Scalzi/dp/1250879396/ >>>

<snip>

I listened to it while doing my organlegger job, driving from Boulder >>>>> Creek to Stanford and back, or BC to San Francisco and back, or BC to >>>>> Sacramento and back. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Lots of interesting
twists. I can recommend it.

I can't comment on the printing, binding, or covers since those don't >>>>> really come across well in audio format. But the narration was top notch! >>>>

I find myself wondering why Boulder Creek is such a prolific source of >>>> detached organs. Is it connected to the (distinctly sketchy) Joe's Bar? >>>

Dave lives in BC; I suspect the runs are between organ banks and the local >>> hospitals.

Query "organ banks". I think medicine in
2025 still uses relatively fresh organs,
not warehoused. Maybe I'm not thinking
widely enough about what is an organ;
I suppose that blood, bone, maybe skin
can be stored long enough for a depository
to be practical?

Brief Bing research shows that this topic is hard to research. Even
/"organ bank" wiki/ (quotes, but not backslashes, included) brings up,
as its first entry, <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_donation>, a
page which does not contain "organ bank".

Apparently, the term is used for facilities that receive the organ and
keep it useable long enough to be used. Which, as you suspect, may not
be very long.

Before the FDIC, the same could have been said about bank deposits.

Or are we talking about e.g. chicken wings
which may be provided by courier, but not
to birds in need of veterinary assistance?

Probably not.

So, here we are 7 months later and I just saw this reply. Oops.

I will give a short tutorial on organlegging and some smaller info on transplants. Possibly I have explained this before, but really don't
remember.

My job is to transport an organ from one point to another. It is usually
from an airport to a hospital or from a hospital to an airport. Airport usually means to an air freight shipper, but occasionally I meet a
courier or on very rare occasions am the courier myself. The typical run
for me is to go to United/Southwest/Delta/Alaska Air Freight at San
Francisco Airport and pick up a kidney as soon as they can get it to the freight office after landing. Then I drive it to the OR of the receiving hospital, typically UC San Francisco, Stanford, or UC Davis Med Center
in Sacramento where they are usually waiting with great anticipation for
me to arrive.

Or vise-versa Hospital to Air Freight. On rare occasions I have met a chartered flight for hand off. Twice I have flown commercial with an
organ (kidney and lungs). I have met couriers 4 or 5 times. No hearts so
far as I don't think they have a long enough shelf life.

Kidneys are the ones I usually do since they seem to have the longest
shelf life, something like 24 hours. I seem to remember that livers are
like 8 hours with lungs maybe a little longer maybe 12-18. I picked up
some lungs once at 10 pm but my flight didn't leave Oakland till 5:30. Adventures ensued.

Obviously, lungs and livers are from deceased donors. Kidneys can be
from planned donations or from deceased donors. When I get a call and
they ask if I can be somewhere in two or 3 hours, this means that the
donor is deceased.

On rare occasions I take blood samples to a laboratory, usually near
Stanford.

On rare occasions I go to San Jose Airport or Sacramento Airport.

Some organs have trackers on their containers. If things are taking too
long, someone pings the tracker to find out what is going on. I have
stories.

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Dave Scruggs
Senior Software Engineer - Lockheed Martin, et. al (mostly Retired)
Captain - Boulder Creek Fire (Retired)
Board of Directors - Boulder Creek Fire Protection District (What was I thinking?)

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