• Re: Time is what clocks indicate

    From The Starmaker@3:633/10 to All on Sat Nov 29 11:50:17 2025
    On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 21:19:48 -0800, The Starmaker
    <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 21:18:58 +0100, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn ><PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

    Garth Dzhanaev wrote:
    Paul B. Andersen wrote:
    The SV clock will typically be microseconds off sync, but a number of
    monitoring stations will track the SV, and measure how the clock
    behaves, and calculate the correction polynomial parameters which are
    uploaded to the SV at least once every three days, typically once a day. >>>>
    See:
    https://paulba.no/div/GPS_clock_correction.pdf

    thanks, we are great, microseconds accumulates, actually more on earth, >>> than in space;

    No, one would have to move in outer space sufficiently fast relative to the >>surface of Earth (or any other celestial body) for less proper time to >>elapse there than on the surface of Earth.

    Assuming a spherically-symmetric planet, we may use the Schwarzschild metric >>in Schwarzschild coordinates (with sign convention -+++, and in natural >>units for simplicity) to find that out:

    ds^2 = -(d tau)^2
    = -(1 - 2m/r) dt^2 + (1 - 2m/r)^-1 dr^2 + r^2 (d Omega)^2
    = -dt^2 [(1 - 2m/r) - (1 - 2m/r)^-1 (dr/dt)^2 - r^2 (d Omega/dt)^2], >>
    m = G M/c^2

    d tau
    = dt sqrt[(1 - 2m/r) - (1 - 2m/r)^-1 (dr/dt)^2 - r^2 (d Omega/dt)^2]
    = dt sqrt[(1 - 2m/r) - (1 - 2m/r)^-1 (dr/dt)^2
    - r^2 {(d theta/dt)^2 + sin^2(theta) (d phi/dt)^2}]

    As you can see, the elapsed proper time _increases_ with increasing radius >>(r), i.e. at relative rest, _more_ of it elapses in outer space than on the >>ground, and decreases with increasing relative speed (dr/dt, d theta/dt,
    d phi/dt).

    But since GPS satellites are in an *orbit* (with an altitude of ca. 20'000 >>km), and the orbital speed *decreases* with increasing radius, this is not >>the case for the elapsed proper time aboard the satellites.



    Oh, I get it now...

    you run your statement FIRST with all the Ai platforms..

    then when they are all finished cleaning up the loose ends and
    errors...

    you post their airtight clean results, RIGHT?


    a 3 year old with pointed ears can do dat..

    "these have been validated by all Ai LLM platforms"

    Any attempt to validate the information using the Ai LLM platforms
    tools available...is punishable by death!

    Pretend, and leave an error so it won't give you away soooo easy.






    I mean, imagine if you wil...

    if CHATgpt and all the other gangsters Ai LLM platforms had
    access to post on Newsgroups..ON THEIR OWN!

    It would be the end of the world...


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGJDSd7pNrk


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