Questionable Content: No phone, got lost
https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5708
Yeah, the Gen Z and Millennials are way too dependent on their phones.
I don't know about the Gen Alphas yet but I get a bad feeling.
Lynn
On 2025-11-25 21:21:08 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
Questionable Content: No phone, got lost
ÿÿÿ https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5708
Yeah, the Gen Z and Millennials are way too dependent on their phones.
I don't know about the Gen Alphas yet but I get a bad feeling.
Lynn
That's the stupidity of putting EVERYTHING on a mobile phone - bank/
payment cards, drivers license, car "key fob", house "key", turning on
and of "smart" devices at home, etc. It's sheer insanity.
On 11/25/2025 3:24 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2025-11-25 21:21:08 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
Questionable Content: No phone, got lost
??? https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5708
Yeah, the Gen Z and Millennials are way too dependent on their phones.
I don't know about the Gen Alphas yet but I get a bad feeling.
Lynn
That's the stupidity of putting EVERYTHING on a mobile phone - bank/
payment cards, drivers license, car "key fob", house "key", turning on
and of "smart" devices at home, etc. It's sheer insanity.
My 86 year old father passed away suddenly last July. He had
EVERYTHING on his phone. Which he did not tell my mother or me or my brothers what his pin was. I am now up to testing about 50 or 60 pins
so far.
I am now the caregiver for my 84 year old mother who is not very
competent. I had to totally redo their finances since EVERYTHING was
on his phone. And many other things. This second factor crap is
worthless when you pass.
Lynn
On 2025-11-25 21:32:08 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
On 11/25/2025 3:24 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2025-11-25 21:21:08 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
Questionable Content: No phone, got lost
ÿÿÿ https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5708
Yeah, the Gen Z and Millennials are way too dependent on their
phones. I don't know about the Gen Alphas yet but I get a bad feeling. >>>>
Lynn
That's the stupidity of putting EVERYTHING on a mobile phone - bank/
payment cards, drivers license, car "key fob", house "key", turning
on and of "smart" devices at home, etc. It's sheer insanity.
My 86 year old father passed away suddenly last July.ÿ He had
EVERYTHING on his phone.ÿ Which he did not tell my mother or me or my
brothers what his pin was.ÿ I am now up to testing about 50 or 60 pins
so far.
I am now the caregiver for my 84 year old mother who is not very
competent.ÿ I had to totally redo their finances since EVERYTHING was
on his phone.ÿ And many other things.ÿ This second factor crap is
worthless when you pass.
Lynn
:-(
Apple has recent-ish system that allows the user to set up a "Legacy Contact" so that when they die someone else can gain access (with some restrictions) to the iCloud account files. Usually that requires the
person to set it up before they die, but can also be done using a death certificate (and a court order in some countries).
Samsung and some other Android makers have similar systems too. Could be worth contacting them if you haven't already.
On 11/25/2025 10:57 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2025-11-25 21:32:08 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
On 11/25/2025 3:24 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2025-11-25 21:21:08 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
Questionable Content: No phone, got lost
??? https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5708
Yeah, the Gen Z and Millennials are way too dependent on their phones. >>>>> I don't know about the Gen Alphas yet but I get a bad feeling.
Lynn
That's the stupidity of putting EVERYTHING on a mobile phone - bank/
payment cards, drivers license, car "key fob", house "key", turning on >>>> and of "smart" devices at home, etc. It's sheer insanity.
My 86 year old father passed away suddenly last July.? He had
EVERYTHING on his phone.? Which he did not tell my mother or me or my
brothers what his pin was.? I am now up to testing about 50 or 60 pins
so far.
I am now the caregiver for my 84 year old mother who is not very
competent.? I had to totally redo their finances since EVERYTHING was
on his phone.? And many other things.? This second factor crap is
worthless when you pass.
Lynn
:-(
Apple has recent-ish system that allows the user to set up a "Legacy
Contact" so that when they die someone else can gain access (with some
restrictions) to the iCloud account files. Usually that requires the
person to set it up before they die, but can also be done using a death
certificate (and a court order in some countries).
Samsung and some other Android makers have similar systems too. Could
be worth contacting them if you haven't already.
His phone service supplier was Google Fi.
Lynn
On 2025-11-25 21:32:08 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
On 11/25/2025 3:24 PM, Your Name wrote:
On 2025-11-25 21:21:08 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
Questionable Content: No phone, got lost
ÿÿÿ https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5708
Yeah, the Gen Z and Millennials are way too dependent on their
phones. I don't know about the Gen Alphas yet but I get a bad feeling. >>>>
Lynn
That's the stupidity of putting EVERYTHING on a mobile phone - bank/
payment cards, drivers license, car "key fob", house "key", turning
on and of "smart" devices at home, etc. It's sheer insanity.
My 86 year old father passed away suddenly last July.ÿ He had
EVERYTHING on his phone.ÿ Which he did not tell my mother or me or my
brothers what his pin was.ÿ I am now up to testing about 50 or 60 pins
so far.
I am now the caregiver for my 84 year old mother who is not very
competent.ÿ I had to totally redo their finances since EVERYTHING was
on his phone.ÿ And many other things.ÿ This second factor crap is
worthless when you pass.
Lynn
:-(
Apple has recent-ish system that allows the user to set up a "Legacy Contact" so that when they die someone else can gain access (with some restrictions) to the iCloud account files. Usually that requires the
person to set it up before they die, but can also be done using a death certificate (and a court order in some countries).
Samsung and some other Android makers have similar systems too. Could be worth contacting them if you haven't already.
Questionable Content: No phone, got lost
ÿÿ https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5708
Yeah, the Gen Z and Millennials are way too dependent on their phones. I don't know about the Gen Alphas yet but I get a bad feeling.
Lynn
On 11/25/25 13:21, Lynn McGuire wrote:<snip>
Prior to Google/Apple maps, I managed to get lost in almost every major
city I've ever been in:
Even Gilroy once but I think the map was wrong.
On 11/25/25 13:21, Lynn McGuire wrote:
Questionable Content: No phone, got lostI am (and I think most here are) a baby boomer. I'd be pretty lost
ÿÿÿ https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5708
Yeah, the Gen Z and Millennials are way too dependent on their phones.
I don't know about the Gen Alphas yet but I get a bad feeling.
Lynn
without my phone, literally, at least when I'm in my car going somewhere I've never been before. Some new hospital in San Francisco... no
problem. Google Maps sends me right there. Need to get from the newly
found hospital to the Bay Bridge and then somewhere in San Ramon? Google maps takes me right there.
Prior to Google/Apple maps, I managed to get lost in almost every major
city I've ever been in: San Francisco (wound up in Hunters Point where I really didn't want to be!), Ankara, Istanbul, NYC, Las Angeles,
Washington DC (found ourselves in the Pentagon parking lot TWICE and
were finaly escorted out of the "hood" by a police cruiser!), London
(got off at the wrong Tube station), Oslo, the list goes on. Even Gilroy once but I think the map was wrong.
BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> writes:
On 11/25/25 13:21, Lynn McGuire wrote:<snip>
Prior to Google/Apple maps, I managed to get lost in almost every major
city I've ever been in:
Even Gilroy once but I think the map was wrong.
Was that St. Louise? On the service road along 101 named "No Name Uno"[*]?
[*] https://gilroydispatch.com/former-worker-says-he-coined-no-name-uno/No, I was looking for a Jr. High School where my #2 daughter was playing basketball, and I wasn't finding it where I thought it should be. It was
On 11/25/25 13:21, Lynn McGuire wrote:
Questionable Content: No phone, got lostI am (and I think most here are) a baby boomer. I'd be pretty lost
ÿÿÿ https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5708
Yeah, the Gen Z and Millennials are way too dependent on their phones.
I don't know about the Gen Alphas yet but I get a bad feeling.
Lynn
without my phone, literally, at least when I'm in my car going somewhere I've never been before. Some new hospital in San Francisco... no
problem. Google Maps sends me right there. Need to get from the newly
found hospital to the Bay Bridge and then somewhere in San Ramon? Google maps takes me right there.
Prior to Google/Apple maps, I managed to get lost in almost every major
city I've ever been in: San Francisco (wound up in Hunters Point where I really didn't want to be!), Ankara, Istanbul, NYC, Las Angeles,
Washington DC (found ourselves in the Pentagon parking lot TWICE and
were finaly escorted out of the "hood" by a police cruiser!), London
(got off at the wrong Tube station), Oslo, the list goes on. Even Gilroy once but I think the map was wrong.
On 11/26/2025 1:53 PM, BCFD 36 wrote:Pentagon parking lot
On 11/25/25 13:21, Lynn McGuire wrote:
Questionable Content: No phone, got lostI am (and I think most here are) a baby boomer. I'd be pretty lost
ÿÿÿ https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5708
Yeah, the Gen Z and Millennials are way too dependent on their
phones. I don't know about the Gen Alphas yet but I get a bad
feeling.
Lynn
without my phone, literally, at least when I'm in my car going
somewhere I've never been before. Some new hospital in San
Francisco... no problem. Google Maps sends me right there. Need to
get from the newly found hospital to the Bay Bridge and then
somewhere in San Ramon? Google maps takes me right there.
TWICE and were finaly escorted out of the "hood" by a police
cruiser!), London (got off at the wrong Tube station), Oslo, the
list goes on. Even Gilroy once but I think the map was wrong.
Myself, I was always good with maps (and map reading was a required curriculum item in Geography class), and between carrying a street
atlas and paper maps, could usually get where I needed. I would write
a list of turning points before I left though.
I've gotten very lazy with it in GPS land since. Today, we're going
to have Thanksgiving at a nice restaurant about 45 miles away, and
when I get in the car, I'll say 'Navigate to The Farm Table in
Bernardston", and it will take me there, taking account of traffic
and road closures.
When I was in London a couple months ago, I downloaded an app
called Citymapper, which does pretty much the same thing for urban
non-car transport, integrating walking, bikes, and public
transit. Highly recommended.
On 11/26/2025 1:53 PM, BCFD 36 wrote:phones.
On 11/25/25 13:21, Lynn McGuire wrote:
Questionable Content: No phone, got lost
??? https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5708
Yeah, the Gen Z and Millennials are way too dependent on their
somewhereI don't know about the Gen Alphas yet but I get a bad feeling.I am (and I think most here are) a baby boomer. I'd be pretty lost
Lynn
without my phone, literally, at least when I'm in my car going
I've never been before. Some new hospital in San Francisco... no
problem. Google Maps sends me right there. Need to get from the newly
found hospital to the Bay Bridge and then somewhere in San Ramon?
majormaps takes me right there.
Prior to Google/Apple maps, I managed to get lost in almost every
Icity I've ever been in: San Francisco (wound up in Hunters Point where
Gilroyreally didn't want to be!), Ankara, Istanbul, NYC, Las Angeles,
Washington DC (found ourselves in the Pentagon parking lot TWICE and
were finaly escorted out of the "hood" by a police cruiser!), London
(got off at the wrong Tube station), Oslo, the list goes on. Even
once but I think the map was wrong.
Myself, I was always good with maps (and map reading was a required >curriculum item in Geography class), and between carrying a street
atlas and paper maps, could usually get where I needed. I would write
a list of turning points before I left though.
I've gotten very lazy with it in GPS land since. Today, we're going
to have Thanksgiving at a nice restaurant about 45 miles away, and
when I get in the car, I'll say 'Navigate to The Farm Table in
Bernardston", and it will take me there, taking account of traffic
and road closures.
When I was in London a couple months ago, I downloaded an app
called Citymapper, which does pretty much the same thing for urban
non-car transport, integrating walking, bikes, and public
transit. Highly recommended.
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
On 11/26/2025 1:53 PM, BCFD 36 wrote:Pentagon parking lot
On 11/25/25 13:21, Lynn McGuire wrote:
Questionable Content: No phone, got lostI am (and I think most here are) a baby boomer. I'd be pretty lost
??? https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5708
Yeah, the Gen Z and Millennials are way too dependent on their
phones. I don't know about the Gen Alphas yet but I get a bad
feeling.
Lynn
without my phone, literally, at least when I'm in my car going
somewhere I've never been before. Some new hospital in San
Francisco... no problem. Google Maps sends me right there. Need to
get from the newly found hospital to the Bay Bridge and then
somewhere in San Ramon? Google maps takes me right there.
TWICE and were finaly escorted out of the "hood" by a police
cruiser!), London (got off at the wrong Tube station), Oslo, the
list goes on. Even Gilroy once but I think the map was wrong.
[...]
Myself, I was always good with maps (and map reading was a required
curriculum item in Geography class), and between carrying a street
atlas and paper maps, could usually get where I needed. I would write
a list of turning points before I left though.
I've gotten very lazy with it in GPS land since. Today, we're going
to have Thanksgiving at a nice restaurant about 45 miles away, and
when I get in the car, I'll say 'Navigate to The Farm Table in
Bernardston", and it will take me there, taking account of traffic
and road closures.
When I was in London a couple months ago, I downloaded an app
called Citymapper, which does pretty much the same thing for urban
non-car transport, integrating walking, bikes, and public
transit. Highly recommended.
I stil don't have a smart device nor any map device in my 1983 Alfasud.
I am a bushwalker and used to using maps to navigate in difficult
situations. I have rarely been lost driving that a little time with a
map did not solve (in daylight helps a lot). I do recall having some >problems in Sydney where I mostly knew the UNSW Kensington area somewhat
and that around ANSTO (Lucas Heights), but do recall spending time
trying to work out what to do to get between them. Mostly I drove to
ANSTO from Canberra which was easier. When I first worked in Canberra
it took a while to learn to drive by landmarks (Mt Ainslie and other
peaks) as I came from Melbourne which is mostly a grid system.
Walking in cities in Europe I did get lost at times. When I first
worked in TU Delft (Netherlands) I realised that two factors did not
help: coming from the Southern hemisphe shadows and moss on trees were
on the wron side and automatic navigation patterns on this threw me
out. I had to learn to think it through for the first few months.
I had the same problem in a recent trip to Europe plus the fact that
printed maps of cities were harder to find.
On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 06:26:35 +1100, sjharker@aussiebroadband.com.au
(Stephen Harker) wrote:
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
On 11/26/2025 1:53 PM, BCFD 36 wrote:
On 11/25/25 13:21, Lynn McGuire wrote:
Questionable Content: No phone, got lost
ÿÿÿ https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5708
Yeah, the Gen Z and Millennials are way too dependent on their
phones. I don't know about the Gen Alphas yet but I get a bad
feeling.
I still don't have a smart device nor any map device in my 1983 Alfasud.
I am a bushwalker and used to using maps to navigate in difficult >>situations. I have rarely been lost driving that a little time with a
map did not solve (in daylight helps a lot). I do recall having some >>problems in Sydney where I mostly knew the UNSW Kensington area somewhat >>and that around ANSTO (Lucas Heights), but do recall spending time
trying to work out what to do to get between them. Mostly I drove to
ANSTO from Canberra which was easier. When I first worked in Canberra
it took a while to learn to drive by landmarks (Mt Ainslie and other
peaks) as I came from Melbourne which is mostly a grid system.
Walking in cities in Europe I did get lost at times. When I first
worked in TU Delft (Netherlands) I realised that two factors did not
help: coming from the Southern hemisphe shadows and moss on trees were
on the wron side and automatic navigation patterns on this threw me
out. I had to learn to think it through for the first few months.
I had the same problem in a recent trip to Europe plus the fact that >>printed maps of cities were harder to find.
Elon said it long ago: "Print is dead."
We just thought he was talking about books, not maps.
On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 06:26:35 +1100, sjharker@aussiebroadband.com.au
(Stephen Harker) wrote:
I had the same problem in a recent trip to Europe plus the fact that
printed maps of cities were harder to find.
Elon said it long ago: "Print is dead."
We just thought he was talking about books, not maps.
On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 06:26:35 +1100, sjharker@aussiebroadband.com.au
(Stephen Harker) wrote:
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
On 11/26/2025 1:53 PM, BCFD 36 wrote:
On 11/25/25 13:21, Lynn McGuire wrote:
Questionable Content: No phone, got lostI am (and I think most here are) a baby boomer. I'd be pretty lost
??? https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5708
Yeah, the Gen Z and Millennials are way too dependent on their
phones. I don't know about the Gen Alphas yet but I get a bad
feeling.
Lynn
without my phone, literally, at least when I'm in my car going
somewhere I've never been before. Some new hospital in San
Francisco... no problem. Google Maps sends me right there. Need to
get from the newly found hospital to the Bay Bridge and then
somewhere in San Ramon? Google maps takes me right there.
Pentagon parking lot TWICE and were finaly escorted out of the "hood" >>>> by a police cruiser!), London (got off at the wrong Tube station),
Oslo, the
list goes on. Even Gilroy once but I think the map was wrong.
[...]
Myself, I was always good with maps (and map reading was a required
curriculum item in Geography class), and between carrying a street
atlas and paper maps, could usually get where I needed. I would write
a list of turning points before I left though.
I've gotten very lazy with it in GPS land since. Today, we're going
to have Thanksgiving at a nice restaurant about 45 miles away, and
when I get in the car, I'll say 'Navigate to The Farm Table in
Bernardston", and it will take me there, taking account of traffic
and road closures.
When I was in London a couple months ago, I downloaded an app
called Citymapper, which does pretty much the same thing for urban
non-car transport, integrating walking, bikes, and public
transit. Highly recommended.
I stil don't have a smart device nor any map device in my 1983 Alfasud.
I am a bushwalker and used to using maps to navigate in difficult
situations. I have rarely been lost driving that a little time with a
map did not solve (in daylight helps a lot). I do recall having some
problems in Sydney where I mostly knew the UNSW Kensington area somewhat
and that around ANSTO (Lucas Heights), but do recall spending time
trying to work out what to do to get between them. Mostly I drove to
ANSTO from Canberra which was easier. When I first worked in Canberra
it took a while to learn to drive by landmarks (Mt Ainslie and other
peaks) as I came from Melbourne which is mostly a grid system.>
Walking in cities in Europe I did get lost at times. When I first
worked in TU Delft (Netherlands) I realised that two factors did not
help: coming from the Southern hemisphe shadows and moss on trees were
on the wron side and automatic navigation patterns on this threw me
out. I had to learn to think it through for the first few months.
I had the same problem in a recent trip to Europe plus the fact that
printed maps of cities were harder to find.
Elon said it long ago: "Print is dead."
We just thought he was talking about books, not maps.
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 06:26:35 +1100, sjharker@aussiebroadband.com.au
(Stephen Harker) wrote:
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
On 11/26/2025 1:53 PM, BCFD 36 wrote:
On 11/25/25 13:21, Lynn McGuire wrote:
Questionable Content: No phone, got lost
??? https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5708
Yeah, the Gen Z and Millennials are way too dependent on their
phones. I don't know about the Gen Alphas yet but I get a bad
feeling.
[...]
I still don't have a smart device nor any map device in my 1983 Alfasud. >>> I am a bushwalker and used to using maps to navigate in difficult
situations. I have rarely been lost driving that a little time with a
map did not solve (in daylight helps a lot). I do recall having some
problems in Sydney where I mostly knew the UNSW Kensington area somewhat >>> and that around ANSTO (Lucas Heights), but do recall spending time
trying to work out what to do to get between them. Mostly I drove to
ANSTO from Canberra which was easier. When I first worked in Canberra
it took a while to learn to drive by landmarks (Mt Ainslie and other
peaks) as I came from Melbourne which is mostly a grid system.
Walking in cities in Europe I did get lost at times. When I first
worked in TU Delft (Netherlands) I realised that two factors did not
help: coming from the Southern hemisphe shadows and moss on trees were
on the wron side and automatic navigation patterns on this threw me
out. I had to learn to think it through for the first few months.
I had the same problem in a recent trip to Europe plus the fact that
printed maps of cities were harder to find.
Elon said it long ago: "Print is dead."
We just thought he was talking about books, not maps.
Meanwhile I continue to see news articles on people driving into lakes,
or down impassable roads they can't get back from thanks to the maps.
They are less common, but still occur. I have gone bushwalking where
the drive to the start had commonsense comemnts from the driver that the navigation would advise driving two sides of a triangle rather than
the shorter single side as the former was officially the higher rated
road, but both were equal gravel roads but one was shorter. This sort
of common sense seems less common.
Maps really help build common sense. Electronic walking maps or advice
are useful, but I find sense checking critical. In London recently
google claimed that to get to Heathrow from my hotel I should walk to
one of the nearby stations and catch a train to Heathrow. I checked
this with the station staff and they said that train only stopped at the station once in the early morning and once in the evening. You could
catch another train to the New Acton station and wait for the Heathrow
train. A map allows you to orient where you are and where you are
going. Walking following a device seem to leave many oblivious of the surroundings which can be dangerous.
The local public transport map will tell me to walk along my drive way, >climb up the somewhat steep bank at the end of our road and through the >small business area parking lot*, to walk up to the main road where the
bus stop is. BUT from the house right next door on the same driveway,
it will say to go down the road, along and then up the public walkkway
to the main road. :-\
On 11/28/2025 11:37 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 06:26:35 +1100, sjharker@aussiebroadband.com.au
(Stephen Harker) wrote:
I had the same problem in a recent trip to Europe plus the fact that
printed maps of cities were harder to find.
Elon said it long ago: "Print is dead."
We just thought he was talking about books, not maps.
I haven't been in Paris in a decade, but I find it difficult to believe people don't still buy the little "Plan de Paris."ÿ Indispensable.
On 11/28/2025 1:23 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
On 11/28/2025 11:37 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 06:26:35 +1100, sjharker@aussiebroadband.com.au
(Stephen Harker) wrote:
I had the same problem in a recent trip to Europe plus the fact that
printed maps of cities were harder to find.
Elon said it long ago: "Print is dead."
We just thought he was talking about books, not maps.
I haven't been in Paris in a decade, but I find it difficult to
believe people don't still buy the little "Plan de Paris."
Indispensable.
When I was at university in London during the 70s, the pocket
'London A-Z Street Atlas' was an essential piece of kit.
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