On 9/19/25 23:59, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 9/20/2025 12:16 AM, Robert Carnegie wrote:

On 19/09/2025 21:51, Lynn McGuire wrote:

Over The Hedge: Banned Games
ÿÿÿ https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2025/09/19

Yeah, the U-238 Atomic Energy Lab should be banned if it ever really
existed.ÿ However, I did see the ?Wargames? movie and have wondered
how true that could be.

Should be banned why?ÿ Yes I've read the comic,
but is this just you kvetching again about energy
production that isn't from oil?ÿ You being in
the oil business.

Because U-238 is radioactive and children should not be playing with it.

I agree that children no matter their age should not be playing with radioactive materials. Neither should the armories of any nations.
Rocket scientists should leave
it alone. Maybe doctors of medicine with the support of heath
physicists to keep
track of radiation exposures and to be aware of possible radioactive contamination
in the areas of use of isotopes used medically.

BTW, I am extremely pro nuclear.ÿ One of my former employers had to
nuclear power plants here in Texas that I worked at for a day.

Lynn

All nuclear fission reactors should be under military discipline with the
technicians and operators fully trained and subject to frequent reviews.

Nuclear bombs are weapons using Mass destruction(or conversion) to destroy masses of people and their properties. E=MCC after all.

bliss


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On 2025-11-17 06:43:07 +0000, Bobbie Sellers said:

On 9/19/25 23:59, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 9/20/2025 12:16 AM, Robert Carnegie wrote:

On 19/09/2025 21:51, Lynn McGuire wrote:

Over The Hedge: Banned Games
ÿÿÿ https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2025/09/19

Yeah, the U-238 Atomic Energy Lab should be banned if it ever really
existed.ÿ However, I did see the ?Wargames? movie and have wondered how >>>> true that could be.

Should be banned why?ÿ Yes I've read the comic, but is this just you
kvetching again about energy production that isn't from oil?ÿ You being >>> in
the oil business.

Because U-238 is radioactive and children should not be playing with it.

I agree that children no matter their age should not be playing with radioactive materials. Neither should the armories of any nations.
Rocket scientists should leave it alone. Maybe doctors of medicine
with the support of heath physicists to keep track of radiation
exposures and to be aware of possible radioactive contamination in the
areas of use of isotopes used medically.

There's currently a big fuss and product recall in Australia and New
Zealand about a kids' toy called "Magic Sand" sold by Kmart (a
different company to the American one) which has been found to contain "traces" of asbestos. Places like junior schools and pre-schools that
bought lots of it for kids' activities have closed while they work out
how to deal with it, parents are jumping around trying to find out how
they "decontaminate" their house, etc.

The reality is that there is probably only a minute amount of asbestos, possibly even only one batch of the product, and there's likely already
far more asbestos in the various buildings the kids visit as well as
simply out in nature.

BTW, I am extremely pro nuclear.ÿ One of my former employers had to
nuclear power plants here in Texas that I worked at for a day.

Lynn

All nuclear fission reactors should be under military discipline with the technicians and operators fully trained and subject to frequent reviews.

Nuclear bombs are weapons using Mass destruction(or conversion) to
destroy masses of people and their properties. E=MCC after all.

bliss

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Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> schrieb:

On 9/20/2025 12:16 AM, Robert Carnegie wrote:

On 19/09/2025 21:51, Lynn McGuire wrote:

Over The Hedge: Banned Games
ÿÿÿ https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2025/09/19

Yeah, the U-238 Atomic Energy Lab should be banned if it ever really
existed.ÿ However, I did see the ?Wargames? movie and have wondered
how true that could be.

Should be banned why?ÿ Yes I've read the comic,
but is this just you kvetching again about energy
production that isn't from oil?ÿ You being in
the oil business.

Because U-238 is radioactive and children should not be playing with it.

Neither should they be playing in the Black Forest, obviously,
nor should they be dringking coffee. According to the linear
low-threshold model, 160 Billion people died of caffeine last year.
--
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artificial impertinence, artificial arrogance, artificial stupidity,
artificial flavorings or artificial colorants.

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Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> writes:

According to the linear low-threshold model, 160 Billion people died
of caffeine last year.

"I tried caffeine once. It made me think I was awake and alert, but it
turned my judgment to shit. Widespread use of caffeine explains a lot
about the twentieth century."

- Greg Egan, _Diaspora_

--
Steve Coltrin spcoltri@omcl.org
"A group known as the League of Human Dignity helped arrange for Deuel
to be driven to a local livestock scale, where he could be weighed."
- Associated Press

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On Sun, 16 Nov 2025 22:43:07 -0800, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

<snippo>

All nuclear fission reactors should be under military discipline with

the

technicians and operators fully trained and subject to frequent reviews.

Unless they are actually /in/ the military, then the civilian supervisors/managers/executvies/board members will have to be treated
the same way.

It's not the techs and the ops that are the real danger. It's the idiots-in-charge.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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Thomas Koenig wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> schrieb:

On 9/20/2025 12:16 AM, Robert Carnegie wrote:

On 19/09/2025 21:51, Lynn McGuire wrote:

Over The Hedge: Banned Games
ÿÿÿ https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2025/09/19

Yeah, the U-238 Atomic Energy Lab should be banned if it ever really
existed.ÿ However, I did see the ?Wargames? movie and have wondered
how true that could be.

Should be banned why?ÿ Yes I've read the comic,
but is this just you kvetching again about energy
production that isn't from oil?ÿ You being in
the oil business.

Because U-238 is radioactive and children should not be playing with it.

Neither should they be playing in the Black Forest, obviously,
nor should they be dringking coffee. According to the linear
low-threshold model, 160 Billion people died of caffeine last year.

I've just been told I need to drink more caffeine, for two unrelated conditions.

Shades of "Sleeper".


William Hyde

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On 2025-11-17 20:48:39 +0000, William Hyde said:

Thomas Koenig wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> schrieb:

On 9/20/2025 12:16 AM, Robert Carnegie wrote:

On 19/09/2025 21:51, Lynn McGuire wrote:

Over The Hedge: Banned Games
ÿÿÿ https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2025/09/19

Yeah, the U-238 Atomic Energy Lab should be banned if it ever really >>>>> existed.ÿ However, I did see the ?Wargames? movie and have wondered
how true that could be.

Should be banned why?ÿ Yes I've read the comic, but is this just you
kvetching again about energy production that isn't from oil?ÿ You being >>>> in the oil business.

Because U-238 is radioactive and children should not be playing with it.

Neither should they be playing in the Black Forest, obviously,
nor should they be dringking coffee. According to the linear
low-threshold model, 160 Billion people died of caffeine last year.

I've just been told I need to drink more caffeine, for two unrelated conditions.

Shades of "Sleeper".

There was an article in the newspaper here a day or two ago about how
too much caffeine from drinking coffee or energy drinks can cause
problems when driving. Basically it's no different to drinking alcohol
or taking drugs and then driving. There was a specific maximum amount
of caffeine mentioned you could have daily, but I don't recall what
that was ... and it probably changes every other week with each new
"study" that comes along anyway.


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Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2025 22:43:07 -0800, Bobbie Sellers ><bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

<snippo>

All nuclear fission reactors should be under military discipline with = >the
technicians and operators fully trained and subject to frequent reviews.

Unless they are actually /in/ the military, then the civilian >supervisors/managers/executvies/board members will have to be treated
the same way.

It's not the techs and the ops that are the real danger. It's the >idiots-in-charge.

It's also a matter of plants being designed by civil engineers who think
about failure in a very different way than say, aircraft control system engineers.

Every post-1970 nuclear accident can be pretty easily tracked down to one
big stupid management decision somewhere. Systems should be designed so
that it takes more than one bad decision to cause a failure, and this is
a hard thing to do.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

I've just been told I need to drink more caffeine, for two unrelated >conditions.

Shades of "Sleeper".

https://www.panix.com/~kludge/kafebong.txt
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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On 11/17/25 14:09, Your Name wrote:

On 2025-11-17 20:48:39 +0000, William Hyde said:

Thomas Koenig wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> schrieb:

On 9/20/2025 12:16 AM, Robert Carnegie wrote:

On 19/09/2025 21:51, Lynn McGuire wrote:

Over The Hedge: Banned Games
ÿÿÿ https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2025/09/19

Yeah, the U-238 Atomic Energy Lab should be banned if it ever really >>>>>> existed.ÿ However, I did see the ?Wargames? movie and have wondered >>>>>> how true that could be.

Should be banned why?ÿ Yes I've read the comic, but is this just
you kvetching again about energy production that isn't from oil?
You being in the oil business.

Because U-238 is radioactive and children should not be playing with
it.

Neither should they be playing in the Black Forest, obviously,
nor should they be dringking coffee.ÿ According to the linear
low-threshold model, 160 Billion people died of caffeine last year.

I've just been told I need to drink more caffeine, for two unrelated
conditions.

Shades of "Sleeper".

There was an article in the newspaper here a day or two ago about how
too much caffeine from drinking coffee or energy drinks can cause
problems when driving. Basically it's no different to drinking alcohol
or taking drugs and then driving. There was a specific maximum amount of caffeine mentioned you could have daily, but I don't recall what that
was ... and it probably changes every other week with each new "study"
that comes along anyway.

Some people like me cannot drink coffee at all. Others can handle
a cup in the AM. And some seem to be ok with a quart of strong coffee
a day.
Now coffee is dangerous when it keeps you awake when you
should be asleep. It cannot make up for sleep.
Being awake too long can result in altered perceptions
I have experienced this myself in long distance motorcycle
events when I was young. After 24 hours I was having a bad time
with peripheral perception. So I found a place to sleep and paid
for it.
Got up in the am and proceeded to the finish line to collect
my finisher's badge and then drove from Los Angeles half way
back to San Francisco.

If you have headaches when you miss your coffee then
you may have sensitivity to caffiene and are best advised to
learn to get along without it. I was young and foolish and
got up to several cups a day. I had migraine-like headaches
and fortunately at the time had access to strong pain-killers
which mitigated the pain and eventually I got over the
caffiene addiction and gave up on the head aches.

bliss - That was about 50 years ago when I was
in my late 30s.


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begin fnord
William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> writes:

I've just been told I need to drink more caffeine, for two unrelated conditions.

Why can't I be diagnosed with _that_ sort of condition?

--
Steve Coltrin spcoltri@omcl.org
"A group known as the League of Human Dignity helped arrange for Deuel
to be driven to a local livestock scale, where he could be weighed."
- Associated Press

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Steve Coltrin wrote:

begin fnord
William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> writes:

I've just been told I need to drink more caffeine, for two unrelated
conditions.

Why can't I be diagnosed with _that_ sort of condition?

I'm still waiting for the diagnosis that says I need a glass a day of
1920 Burgundy.

William Hyde

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On 2025-11-17 23:00:24 +0000, Bobbie Sellers said:

On 11/17/25 14:09, Your Name wrote:

On 2025-11-17 20:48:39 +0000, William Hyde said:

Thomas Koenig wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> schrieb:

On 9/20/2025 12:16 AM, Robert Carnegie wrote:

On 19/09/2025 21:51, Lynn McGuire wrote:

Over The Hedge: Banned Games
ÿÿÿ https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2025/09/19

Yeah, the U-238 Atomic Energy Lab should be banned if it ever really >>>>>>> existed.ÿ However, I did see the ?Wargames? movie and have
wondered how true that could be.

Should be banned why?ÿ Yes I've read the comic, but is this just you >>>>>> kvetching again about energy production that isn't from oil? You being >>>>>> in the oil business.

Because U-238 is radioactive and children should not be playing with it. >>>>

Neither should they be playing in the Black Forest, obviously,
nor should they be dringking coffee.ÿ According to the linear
low-threshold model, 160 Billion people died of caffeine last year.

I've just been told I need to drink more caffeine, for two unrelated
conditions.

Shades of "Sleeper".

There was an article in the newspaper here a day or two ago about how
too much caffeine from drinking coffee or energy drinks can cause
problems when driving. Basically it's no different to drinking alcohol
or taking drugs and then driving. There was a specific maximum amount
of caffeine mentioned you could have daily, but I don't recall what
that was ... and it probably changes every other week with each new
"study" that comes along anyway.

Some people like me cannot drink coffee at all. Others can handle a
cup in the AM. And some seem to be ok with a quart of strong coffee a
day.

Personally I can't even stand the smell or taste of coffee, even in
something like cakes. Same with alcohol. I don't drink either and never
go into pubs or bars.

Now coffee is dangerous when it keeps you awake when you should be
asleep. It cannot make up for sleep.

Being awake too long can result in altered perceptions

I have experienced this myself in long distance motorcycle events when
I was young. After 24 hours I was having a bad time with peripheral perception. So I found a place to sleep and paid for it.

Got up in the am and proceeded to the finish line to collect my
finisher's badge and then drove from Los Angeles half way back to San Francisco.

If you have headaches when you miss your coffee then you may have sensitivity to caffiene and are best advised to learn to get along
without it. I was young and foolish and got up to several cups a day.
I had migraine-like headaches and fortunately at the time had access to strong pain-killers which mitigated the pain and eventually I got over
the caffiene addiction and gave up on the head aches.

bliss - That was about 50 years ago when I was
in my late 30s.

According to the article, too much caffeine will make you jittery and
less focussed / more distracted, which is whay it is dangerous for
driving.



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On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 17:37:30 -0500 (EST), kludge@panix.com (Scott
Dorsey) wrote:

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2025 22:43:07 -0800, Bobbie Sellers >><bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

<snippo>

All nuclear fission reactors should be under military discipline with

=

the

technicians and operators fully trained and subject to frequent

reviews.

Unless they are actually /in/ the military, then the civilian >>supervisors/managers/executvies/board members will have to be treated
the same way.

It's not the techs and the ops that are the real danger. It's the >>idiots-in-charge.

It's also a matter of plants being designed by civil engineers who think >about failure in a very different way than say, aircraft control system >engineers.

Every post-1970 nuclear accident can be pretty easily tracked down to

one

big stupid management decision somewhere. Systems should be designed so

that it takes more than one bad decision to cause a failure, and this is

a hard thing to do.

Back around 1982, some of my colleagues in the Army came up with the
"SPA theory". An "SPA" is a "Strategically Placed A-hole".

This was that organizational structure does not matter. If everyone is competent, it will be made to work no matter how badly it was
designed. But if an SPA occupies a vital position, even the
best-designed organization will fail.

There is an obvious counter:
1. Identify the SPAs that are too important to be given a broom and
told to sweep the floor.
2. Put them in charge of something innocuous: inventorying paper
coffee cups, organizing office supplies, stuff like that. Stuff that
can be inconvenient if done badly, but which won't produce a disaster.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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