• (ReacTor) Five Ways to Build a Story Around an Unlikeable Protagonist

    From James Nicoll@3:633/10 to All on Tue Nov 11 15:25:19 2025
    Five Ways to Build a Story Around an Unlikeable Protagonist

    Thoughts on hateable, problematic, and morally bankrupt characters.

    https://reactormag.com/five-ways-to-build-a-story-around-an-unlikeable-protagonist/
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  • From Don@3:633/10 to All on Tue Nov 11 17:45:40 2025
    Subject: Re: (ReacTor) Five Ways to Build a Story Around an Unlikeable Protagonist

    James Nicoll wrote:
    Five Ways to Build a Story Around an Unlikeable Protagonist

    Thoughts on hateable, problematic, and morally bankrupt characters.

    https://reactormag.com/five-ways-to-build-a-story-around-an-unlikeable-protagonist/

    In the crowded marketplace of ideas, artful authors attract an
    audience's patronage by inculcating a sense of reader superiority into
    their readership.
    RAH's reliable narrators arguably act as a baseline. You get what
    you pay for. Readers foresee what is coming while character
    comprehension lags a little - it loiters to size up a straightforward situation.
    Unreliable narrators up the stakes. They require readers to expend
    extra effort to question the narrative along the way. By the end of a successfully sleuthed story, superiority is enhanced enough to enable
    escalated euphoria.
    But unreliable narration can backfire on readers who lack the
    requisite intelligence or mental discipline to tackle the tale.

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    Don.......My cat's )\._.,--....,'``. veritas _|_ telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. liberabit |
    tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' vos |


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  • From Don@3:633/10 to All on Tue Nov 11 17:50:10 2025
    Subject: Re: (ReacTor) Five Ways to Build a Story Around an Unlikeable Protagonist

    Pertinent excerpt from James' review included in this revision.

    James Nicoll wrote:
    Five Ways to Build a Story Around an Unlikeable Protagonist

    Thoughts on hateable, problematic, and morally bankrupt characters.

    https://reactormag.com/five-ways-to-build-a-story-around-an-unlikeable-protagonist/

    (excerpt)

    but is it possible that Heinlein was drawing readers
    in with characters who were just a smidge dimmer than
    the reader, so the reader could have the pleasure of
    outthinking the lead? It?s probably tricky to hit
    ?just thick enough? without wandering into
    ?irritatingly dense."

    In the crowded marketplace of ideas, artful authors attract an
    audience's patronage by inculcating a sense of reader superiority into
    their readership.
    RAH's reliable narrators arguably act as a baseline. You get what
    you pay for. Readers foresee what is coming while character
    comprehension lags a little - it loiters to size up a straightforward situation.
    Unreliable narrators up the stakes. They require readers to expend
    extra effort to question the narrative along the way. By the end of a successfully sleuthed story, superiority is enhanced enough to enable
    escalated euphoria.
    But unreliable narration can backfire on readers who lack the
    requisite intelligence or mental discipline to tackle the tale.

    --
    Don.......My cat's )\._.,--....,'``. veritas _|_ telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. liberabit |
    tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' vos |


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  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/10 to All on Sun Nov 23 15:35:54 2025
    Subject: Re: (ReacTor) Five Ways to Build a Story Around an Unlikeable Protagonist

    On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 17:45:40 -0000 (UTC), Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote:

    RAH's reliable narrators arguably act as a baseline. You get what
    you pay for. Readers foresee what is coming while character
    comprehension lags a little - it loiters to size up a straightforward >situation.

    In Time Enough for Love there was the story of Lazarus Long raising a
    pair of twins who were unusual as having received 23 chromosomes from
    each parent but a different 23 from each parent meaning that while
    they were twins they had no chromosomes in common.

    I read TEFL when I was old enough to understand Heinlein's explanation
    even if I thought it a bit weird (which of course it was)

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