• "Heirs of Empire (Dahak)" by David Weber

    From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Sun Nov 2 20:13:47 2025
    "Heirs of Empire (Dahak)" by David Weber
    https://www.amazon.com/Heirs-Empire-Dahak-David-Weber/dp/0671877070/

    Book number three of a three book space opera series. I reread the well printed and bound MMPB published by Baen in 1996. This is my favorite
    SF series of all time as I have reread it six or ten times now. In
    fact, the binding of my book has broken since I have read it so many
    times. This book has sadly has gone out of print as a standalone book.
    But, the omnibus is still available as a new book:
    https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Ashes-David-Weber/dp/141650933X/

    I do not know why this is my favorite SF series of all time. I think
    that I like the standup position of the chief protagonist, Colin the
    First. Or that there are so many different species of intelligent space races. Or that the book is written so tightly, especially when compared
    to Weber's later works. Or that an self aware artificial intelligence
    shares the main protagonist job in the book, much like Heinlein's "The
    Moon Is A Harsh Mistress".

    I keep on hoping that David Weber will write more books in the Dahak
    series but, I doubt it. He did write the Safehold series which is along
    the same lines as this book, overpowering space aliens and self aware artificial intelligences. BTW, there is an ending to the Safehold, Honorverse, and Dahak series that David Weber wrote as joke:

    https://forums.davidweber.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4078&sid=e6322fa55d3aaf53b9dfd49f72db54c7

    Here is my 2012 review of the book: "OK, time for my biennial rereading
    of the Dahak series. You want space opera, I've got your space opera
    right here. You want milsf, I've got your milsf right here. The series
    is well written and tight unlike Weber's later verbose efforts. Not
    bad, just verbose."

    "This is my favorite SF series of all time. I'm waiting for it to be continued but I am losing all hope. To me, the "Off Armageddon Reef"
    series is just a reworking of this series done in a more verbose way.
    I'm sure that Weber will deny that but after all, he is the author of both."

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars (55 reviews)

    Lynn


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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Sun Nov 2 20:54:52 2025
    On 11/2/2025 8:13 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    "Heirs of Empire (Dahak)" by David Weber
    ÿÿ https://www.amazon.com/Heirs-Empire-Dahak-David-Weber/dp/0671877070/

    Book number three of a three book space opera series.ÿ I reread the well printed and bound MMPB published by Baen in 1996.ÿ This is my favorite
    SF series of all time as I have reread it six or ten times now.ÿ In
    fact, the binding of my book has broken since I have read it so many
    times.ÿ This book has sadly has gone out of print as a standalone book.
    But, the omnibus is still available as a new book:
    ÿÿ https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Ashes-David-Weber/dp/141650933X/

    I do not know why this is my favorite SF series of all time.ÿ I think
    that I like the standup position of the chief protagonist, Colin the
    First.ÿ Or that there are so many different species of intelligent space races.ÿ Or that the book is written so tightly, especially when compared
    to Weber's later works.ÿ Or that an self aware artificial intelligence shares the main protagonist job in the book, much like Heinlein's "The
    Moon Is A Harsh Mistress".

    I keep on hoping that David Weber will write more books in the Dahak
    series but, I doubt it.ÿ He did write the Safehold series which is along
    the same lines as this book, overpowering space aliens and self aware artificial intelligences.ÿ BTW, there is an ending to the Safehold, Honorverse, and Dahak series that David Weber wrote as joke:

    https://forums.davidweber.net/viewtopic.php? f=7&t=4078&sid=e6322fa55d3aaf53b9dfd49f72db54c7

    Here is my 2012 review of the book: "OK, time for my biennial rereading
    of the Dahak series.ÿ You want space opera, I've got your space opera
    right here.ÿ You want milsf, I've got your milsf right here.ÿ The series
    is well written and tight unlike Weber's later verbose efforts.ÿ Not
    bad, just verbose."

    "This is my favorite SF series of all time.ÿ I'm waiting for it to be continued but I am losing all hope.ÿ To me, the "Off Armageddon Reef"
    series is just a reworking of this series done in a more verbose way.
    I'm sure that Weber will deny that but after all, he is the author of
    both."

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars (55 reviews)

    Lynn

    The Safehold joke ending is:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20211128164744/https://forums.davidweber.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4078&sid=e6322fa55d3aaf53b9dfd49f72db54c7

    Lynn


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  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 3 08:52:48 2025
    On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 20:13:47 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    "Heirs of Empire (Dahak)" by David Weber
    https://www.amazon.com/Heirs-Empire-Dahak-David-Weber/dp/0671877070/

    Book number three of a three book space opera series. I reread the well

    printed and bound MMPB published by Baen in 1996. This is my favorite
    SF series of all time as I have reread it six or ten times now. In
    fact, the binding of my book has broken since I have read it so many
    times. This book has sadly has gone out of print as a standalone book.
    But, the omnibus is still available as a new book:
    https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Ashes-David-Weber/dp/141650933X/

    I do not know why this is my favorite SF series of all time. I think
    that I like the standup position of the chief protagonist, Colin the
    First. Or that there are so many different species of intelligent space

    races. Or that the book is written so tightly, especially when compared

    to Weber's later works. Or that an self aware artificial intelligence >shares the main protagonist job in the book, much like Heinlein's "The
    Moon Is A Harsh Mistress".

    I keep on hoping that David Weber will write more books in the Dahak
    series but, I doubt it. He did write the Safehold series which is along

    the same lines as this book, overpowering space aliens and self aware >artificial intelligences. BTW, there is an ending to the Safehold, >Honorverse, and Dahak series that David Weber wrote as joke:

    https://forums.davidweber.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4078&sid=e6322fa 55d3aaf53b9dfd49f72db54c7

    Here is my 2012 review of the book: "OK, time for my biennial rereading
    of the Dahak series. You want space opera, I've got your space opera
    right here. You want milsf, I've got your milsf right here. The series

    is well written and tight unlike Weber's later verbose efforts. Not
    bad, just verbose."

    "This is my favorite SF series of all time. I'm waiting for it to be >continued but I am losing all hope. To me, the "Off Armageddon Reef"
    series is just a reworking of this series done in a more verbose way.
    I'm sure that Weber will deny that but after all, he is the author of
    both."

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars (55 reviews)

    I agree with you on all points.

    But I'm not seeing much of a review here. Isn't it traditional to at
    least mention a few plot points?

    But only a few -- don't want to spoil the surprises!
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Peter Fairbrother@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 3 17:05:46 2025
    On 03/11/2025 02:13, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    BTW, there is an ending to the Safehold,
    Honorverse, and Dahak series that David Weber wrote as a joke:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20211128164744/https:// forums.davidweber.net/viewtopic.php? f=7&t=4078&sid=e6322fa55d3aaf53b9dfd49f72db54c7

    Thenks for tat link. Brings a tear to the eye, though whether it'd be a
    tear of thanks, relief or laughter remains open.


    Hmmm,

    Safehold - Admiral Nimue Howsmyn etc.
    Dahak - Senior Fleet Admiral Ninhursag MacIntyre, Dahak IV-class etc.
    Bolo - Mark XLVI.
    Furies - Admiral DeVries
    War God - General Bahnakson, Toman?k-class transport


    Can't find a reference to Honorverse though?


    Peter Fairbrother

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  • From Scott Lurndal@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 3 17:14:56 2025
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
    On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 20:13:47 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    "Heirs of Empire (Dahak)" by David Weber
    https://www.amazon.com/Heirs-Empire-Dahak-David-Weber/dp/0671877070/

    Book number three of a three book space opera series. I reread the well= >=20
    printed and bound MMPB published by Baen in 1996. This is my favorite=20 >>SF series of all time as I have reread it six or ten times now. In=20 >>fact, the binding of my book has broken since I have read it so many=20 >>times. This book has sadly has gone out of print as a standalone book.=20 >>But, the omnibus is still available as a new book:
    https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Ashes-David-Weber/dp/141650933X/

    I do not know why this is my favorite SF series of all time. I think=20 >>that I like the standup position of the chief protagonist, Colin the=20 >>First. Or that there are so many different species of intelligent space= >=20
    races. Or that the book is written so tightly, especially when compared= >=20
    to Weber's later works. Or that an self aware artificial intelligence=20 >>shares the main protagonist job in the book, much like Heinlein's "The=20 >>Moon Is A Harsh Mistress".

    I keep on hoping that David Weber will write more books in the Dahak=20 >>series but, I doubt it. He did write the Safehold series which is along= >=20
    the same lines as this book, overpowering space aliens and self aware=20 >>artificial intelligences. BTW, there is an ending to the Safehold,=20 >>Honorverse, and Dahak series that David Weber wrote as joke:
    =20 >>https://forums.davidweber.net/viewtopic.php?f=3D7&t=3D4078&sid=3De6322fa= >55d3aaf53b9dfd49f72db54c7

    Here is my 2012 review of the book: "OK, time for my biennial rereading=20 >>of the Dahak series. You want space opera, I've got your space opera=20 >>right here. You want milsf, I've got your milsf right here. The series= >=20
    is well written and tight unlike Weber's later verbose efforts. Not=20 >>bad, just verbose."

    "This is my favorite SF series of all time. I'm waiting for it to be=20 >>continued but I am losing all hope. To me, the "Off Armageddon Reef"=20 >>series is just a reworking of this series done in a more verbose way.=20 >>I'm sure that Weber will deny that but after all, he is the author of = >both."

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars (55 reviews)

    I agree with you on all points.

    But I'm not seeing much of a review here. Isn't it traditional to at
    least mention a few plot points?

    Not for Lynn. He's more interested in the quality of the
    binding.

    Note that he has posted this review every three months for
    the last decade or so.

    Plot: Authorial wish fulfilment space opera.

    (Yes, I enjoy the series myself, although the third volume
    has a very similar plot to the the first Prince Roger book
    and one of the Safehold volumes).


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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 3 14:13:00 2025
    On 11/3/2025 11:05 AM, Peter Fairbrother wrote:
    On 03/11/2025 02:13, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    BTW, there is an ending to the Safehold,
    Honorverse, and Dahak series that David Weber wrote as a joke:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20211128164744/https://
    forums.davidweber.net/viewtopic.php?
    f=7&t=4078&sid=e6322fa55d3aaf53b9dfd49f72db54c7

    Thenks for tat link. Brings a tear to the eye, though whether it'd be a
    tear of thanks, relief or laughter remains open.


    Hmmm,

    Safehold -ÿ Admiral Nimue Howsmyn etc.
    Dahak - Senior Fleet Admiral Ninhursag MacIntyre, Dahak IV-class etc.
    Bolo - Mark XLVI.
    Furies - Admiral DeVries
    War God - General Bahnakson, Toman?k-class transport


    Can't find a reference to Honorverse though?


    Peter Fairbrother


    https://web.archive.org/web/20211128164744/https://forums.davidweber.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4078&sid=e6322fa55d3aaf53b9dfd49f72db54c7

    Argh, you are correct. There is a reference to Battlestar Galactica,
    not the Honorverse.

    Thanks,
    Lynn


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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 3 14:13:58 2025
    On 11/3/2025 11:14 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
    On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 20:13:47 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    "Heirs of Empire (Dahak)" by David Weber
    https://www.amazon.com/Heirs-Empire-Dahak-David-Weber/dp/0671877070/ >>>
    Book number three of a three book space opera series. I reread the well= >> =20
    printed and bound MMPB published by Baen in 1996. This is my favorite=20 >>> SF series of all time as I have reread it six or ten times now. In=20
    fact, the binding of my book has broken since I have read it so many=20
    times. This book has sadly has gone out of print as a standalone book.=20 >>> But, the omnibus is still available as a new book:
    https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Ashes-David-Weber/dp/141650933X/

    I do not know why this is my favorite SF series of all time. I think=20 >>> that I like the standup position of the chief protagonist, Colin the=20
    First. Or that there are so many different species of intelligent space= >> =20
    races. Or that the book is written so tightly, especially when compared= >> =20
    to Weber's later works. Or that an self aware artificial intelligence=20 >>> shares the main protagonist job in the book, much like Heinlein's "The=20 >>> Moon Is A Harsh Mistress".

    I keep on hoping that David Weber will write more books in the Dahak=20
    series but, I doubt it. He did write the Safehold series which is along= >> =20
    the same lines as this book, overpowering space aliens and self aware=20 >>> artificial intelligences. BTW, there is an ending to the Safehold,=20
    Honorverse, and Dahak series that David Weber wrote as joke:
    =20
    https://forums.davidweber.net/viewtopic.php?f=3D7&t=3D4078&sid=3De6322fa= >> 55d3aaf53b9dfd49f72db54c7

    Here is my 2012 review of the book: "OK, time for my biennial rereading=20 >>> of the Dahak series. You want space opera, I've got your space opera=20 >>> right here. You want milsf, I've got your milsf right here. The series= >> =20
    is well written and tight unlike Weber's later verbose efforts. Not=20
    bad, just verbose."

    "This is my favorite SF series of all time. I'm waiting for it to be=20 >>> continued but I am losing all hope. To me, the "Off Armageddon Reef"=20 >>> series is just a reworking of this series done in a more verbose way.=20 >>> I'm sure that Weber will deny that but after all, he is the author of =
    both."

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars (55 reviews)

    I agree with you on all points.

    But I'm not seeing much of a review here. Isn't it traditional to at
    least mention a few plot points?

    Not for Lynn. He's more interested in the quality of the
    binding.

    Note that he has posted this review every three months for
    the last decade or so.

    Plot: Authorial wish fulfilment space opera.

    (Yes, I enjoy the series myself, although the third volume
    has a very similar plot to the the first Prince Roger book
    and one of the Safehold volumes).

    Ah, the liar has surfaced.

    Lynn


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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Tue Nov 4 18:39:53 2025
    On 11/3/2025 10:52 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 20:13:47 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    "Heirs of Empire (Dahak)" by David Weber
    https://www.amazon.com/Heirs-Empire-Dahak-David-Weber/dp/0671877070/

    Book number three of a three book space opera series. I reread the well
    printed and bound MMPB published by Baen in 1996. This is my favorite
    SF series of all time as I have reread it six or ten times now. In
    fact, the binding of my book has broken since I have read it so many
    times. This book has sadly has gone out of print as a standalone book.
    But, the omnibus is still available as a new book:
    https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Ashes-David-Weber/dp/141650933X/

    I do not know why this is my favorite SF series of all time. I think
    that I like the standup position of the chief protagonist, Colin the
    First. Or that there are so many different species of intelligent space
    races. Or that the book is written so tightly, especially when compared
    to Weber's later works. Or that an self aware artificial intelligence
    shares the main protagonist job in the book, much like Heinlein's "The
    Moon Is A Harsh Mistress".

    I keep on hoping that David Weber will write more books in the Dahak
    series but, I doubt it. He did write the Safehold series which is along
    the same lines as this book, overpowering space aliens and self aware
    artificial intelligences. BTW, there is an ending to the Safehold,
    Honorverse, and Dahak series that David Weber wrote as joke:

    https://forums.davidweber.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4078&sid=e6322fa55d3aaf53b9dfd49f72db54c7

    Here is my 2012 review of the book: "OK, time for my biennial rereading
    of the Dahak series. You want space opera, I've got your space opera
    right here. You want milsf, I've got your milsf right here. The series
    is well written and tight unlike Weber's later verbose efforts. Not
    bad, just verbose."

    "This is my favorite SF series of all time. I'm waiting for it to be
    continued but I am losing all hope. To me, the "Off Armageddon Reef"
    series is just a reworking of this series done in a more verbose way.
    I'm sure that Weber will deny that but after all, he is the author of both." >>
    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars (55 reviews)

    I agree with you on all points.

    But I'm not seeing much of a review here. Isn't it traditional to at
    least mention a few plot points?

    But only a few -- don't want to spoil the surprises!

    Yes, this was a weak review that I mostly repeated from my last reading
    in 2019. I should have rewritten it or expanded it but I have been too
    busy this year.

    Lynn


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