• Re: (Tears) Man Plus (Man Plus, volume 1) by Frederik Pohl

    From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 31 09:24:42 2025
    On 21 Oct 2025 10:57:23 GMT, ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
    wrote:

    Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote or quoted:
    In a world that persistently mischaracterizes Christians as
    anti-science, Pope Leo XIV's mathematical background offers
    a powerful counternarrative.

    Angela Merkel has a PhD in physics. Honestly, where in her politics
    did that ever show?

    We see the unity of faith and reason in the long, robust
    history of Catholic contributions to science and mathematics.

    And yeah, that's basically why we ended up killing Giordano Bruno.


    An article I read a long time ago in /Skeptical Inquirer/ revealed
    that Bruno had been banished by most of Europe by the time the Pope
    got him.

    Apparently, he was so annoying a smart-ass that nobody could stand
    him, and had the misfortune to fall into the hands of a Pope who had
    no tolerance for smart-assery at all.

    I still have no idea whether by "other worlds" he meant planets like
    Mars -- or what we would call other universes (which are hypothetical,
    no matter what comic books may think).
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Cryptoengineer@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 31 14:35:10 2025
    On 10/31/2025 12:24 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On 21 Oct 2025 10:57:23 GMT, ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
    wrote:

    Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote or quoted:
    In a world that persistently mischaracterizes Christians as
    anti-science, Pope Leo XIV's mathematical background offers
    a powerful counternarrative.

    Angela Merkel has a PhD in physics. Honestly, where in her politics
    did that ever show?

    We see the unity of faith and reason in the long, robust
    history of Catholic contributions to science and mathematics.

    And yeah, that's basically why we ended up killing Giordano Bruno.


    An article I read a long time ago in /Skeptical Inquirer/ revealed
    that Bruno had been banished by most of Europe by the time the Pope
    got him.

    Apparently, he was so annoying a smart-ass that nobody could stand
    him, and had the misfortune to fall into the hands of a Pope who had
    no tolerance for smart-assery at all.

    I still have no idea whether by "other worlds" he meant planets like
    Mars -- or what we would call other universes (which are hypothetical,
    no matter what comic books may think).

    The accounts of Bruno I've read make it clear that he figuratively
    bit the hand of every sponsor who fed him.

    He didn't deserve to be burnt, but he didn't help his case.

    I was quite annoyed by him being treated as a secular saint
    in Tyson's reboot of 'Cosmos'.

    pt

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