• Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt

    From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 28 14:47:42 2025
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Bobbie Sellers@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 28 14:24:34 2025


    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    ˙˙ https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse. Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    Thanks for Opp by the way.

    bliss

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 28 17:45:19 2025
    On 10/28/2025 4:24 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    ˙˙˙ https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    ˙˙˙˙Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse.˙ Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    ˙˙˙˙Thanks for Opp by the way.

    ˙˙˙˙bliss

    I have not bought a new shirt with pins in it for over a decade now. I usually get my shirts from Lands End but they dropped the pins over a
    decade ago. My wife of 43 years would remove the pins if I asked her
    but, I would never do that.

    I have been tempted to remove the tags that annoy me but have yet to do
    so. I hate defacing a shirt like that.

    Lynn


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Cryptoengineer@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 28 22:49:52 2025
    On 10/28/2025 5:24 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    ˙˙˙ https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    ˙˙˙˙Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse.˙ Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    ˙˙˙˙Thanks for Opp by the way.

    I buy a new formal white shirt or a tux shirt every year or so.

    Those are still full of pins.

    pt

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Wed Oct 29 09:09:44 2025
    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:24:34 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    ?? https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse. Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    Pins, collar stiffeners, plastic things ... the list is endless.

    Getting outer garments ready for use is an adventure in wasted time.

    Oh, and the new long-sleeved shirts I bought last year came with ...
    snaps ... instead of buttons. I guess I should have been paying more
    attention when I ordered them.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Cryptoengineer@3:633/10 to All on Wed Oct 29 14:33:52 2025
    On 10/29/2025 12:09 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:24:34 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    ˙˙ https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse. Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    Pins, collar stiffeners, plastic things ... the list is endless.

    Getting outer garments ready for use is an adventure in wasted time.

    Oh, and the new long-sleeved shirts I bought last year came with ...
    snaps ... instead of buttons. I guess I should have been paying more attention when I ordered them.

    The thing that bugs me is that men's formal jackets come with all
    the pockets sewn up.

    I recently bought a very nice Harris Tweed jacket at Walker Slater
    in London. They offered to open the pockets. It took almost 10
    minutes.

    pt

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Wed Oct 29 18:26:02 2025
    On 10/29/2025 9:09 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:24:34 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    ˙˙ https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse. Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    Pins, collar stiffeners, plastic things ... the list is endless.

    Getting outer garments ready for use is an adventure in wasted time.

    Oh, and the new long-sleeved shirts I bought last year came with ...
    snaps ... instead of buttons. I guess I should have been paying more attention when I ordered them.

    Snaps are easier to deal with one handed.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Thu Oct 30 08:25:26 2025
    On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 18:26:02 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 10/29/2025 9:09 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:24:34 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    ?? https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse. Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    Pins, collar stiffeners, plastic things ... the list is endless.

    Getting outer garments ready for use is an adventure in wasted time.

    Oh, and the new long-sleeved shirts I bought last year came with ...
    snaps ... instead of buttons. I guess I should have been paying more
    attention when I ordered them.

    Snaps are easier to deal with one handed.

    If you say so.

    I'm more concerned about their longevity than their ease-of-use.

    I replaced the prior shirts because the red one (of course -- it's
    /always/ the red one that does this first) wore out in the sleeve.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Thu Oct 30 08:32:49 2025
    On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 14:33:52 -0400, Cryptoengineer
    <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 10/29/2025 12:09 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:24:34 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    ?? https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse. Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    Pins, collar stiffeners, plastic things ... the list is endless.

    Getting outer garments ready for use is an adventure in wasted time.

    Oh, and the new long-sleeved shirts I bought last year came with ...
    snaps ... instead of buttons. I guess I should have been paying more
    attention when I ordered them.

    The thing that bugs me is that men's formal jackets come with all
    the pockets sewn up.

    I recently bought a very nice Harris Tweed jacket at Walker Slater
    in London. They offered to open the pockets. It took almost 10
    minutes.

    I am reminded of various things in books/movies about a day, a while
    back, when less-than-wealthy types would purchase (or rent) collars,
    cuffs, and a shirt-front and then use a jacket to cover everything
    else.

    So that they could appear to be wearing a full shirt on their budget.

    I wonder how much of the cardboard/plastic stuff dates back to those
    days and were originally intended (all cardboard at the time, of
    course) to help the various forms keep their shape.

    And, of course, there's always Elmer Fudd as orchestra director with
    his shirt-front flopping up. Without detachable shirt fronts, this
    wouldn't have made any sense to the audience.

    As to sown pockets -- gentlemen simply do not put things in their coat
    pockets. The very idea of using them! Or, rather, didn't way back when
    sewing them shut became common practice.

    Indeed, I'm not at all sure that the Army Greens jackets didn't have
    /their/ pockets sown shut back in the late 60s/mid-70s.

    It probably took ten minutes because they did it very very carefully.

    So this may be another example of the Dead Hand of Tradition.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From danny burstein@3:633/10 to All on Thu Oct 30 15:43:16 2025
    In <er07gkpkescr93n6916js8dleof91iv8pg@4ax.com> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:

    [snip]
    The thing that bugs me is that men's formal jackets come with all
    the pockets sewn up.
    .....
    As to sewn pockets -- gentlemen simply do not put things in their coat >pockets. The very idea of using them! Or, rather, didn't way back when
    sewing them shut became common practice.

    In some article (no way Icould track it down...) the Top Cop recalls
    how when he busted Crime Boss he noticed the crook had sewn all
    the pockets shut.

    When he asked why, the gangster replied "so you can't plant
    stuff on me!"


    --
    _____________________________________________________
    Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
    dannyb@panix.com
    [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Cryptoengineer@3:633/10 to All on Thu Oct 30 13:24:31 2025
    On 10/30/2025 11:32 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 14:33:52 -0400, Cryptoengineer
    <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 10/29/2025 12:09 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:24:34 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    ˙˙ https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse. Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    Pins, collar stiffeners, plastic things ... the list is endless.

    Getting outer garments ready for use is an adventure in wasted time.

    Oh, and the new long-sleeved shirts I bought last year came with ...
    snaps ... instead of buttons. I guess I should have been paying more
    attention when I ordered them.

    The thing that bugs me is that men's formal jackets come with all
    the pockets sewn up.

    I recently bought a very nice Harris Tweed jacket at Walker Slater
    in London. They offered to open the pockets. It took almost 10
    minutes.

    I am reminded of various things in books/movies about a day, a while
    back, when less-than-wealthy types would purchase (or rent) collars,
    cuffs, and a shirt-front and then use a jacket to cover everything
    else.

    So that they could appear to be wearing a full shirt on their budget.

    I wonder how much of the cardboard/plastic stuff dates back to those
    days and were originally intended (all cardboard at the time, of
    course) to help the various forms keep their shape.

    And, of course, there's always Elmer Fudd as orchestra director with
    his shirt-front flopping up. Without detachable shirt fronts, this
    wouldn't have made any sense to the audience.

    As to sown pockets -- gentlemen simply do not put things in their coat pockets. The very idea of using them! Or, rather, didn't way back when
    sewing them shut became common practice.

    You are so wrong! Victorian men literally had more pockets than they
    knew what to do with, and they used them.

    Entertaining video on the subject:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEgnqrBLlQ0

    Indeed, I'm not at all sure that the Army Greens jackets didn't have
    /their/ pockets sown shut back in the late 60s/mid-70s.

    It probably took ten minutes because they did it very very carefully.

    So this may be another example of the Dead Hand of Tradition.

    I just checked. The jacket has 7 pockets, as does my suit jacket.
    My tux jacket gets away with just 6.

    Some fashionistas dissed my jacket for not having a ticket pocket
    as well. (A smallish external pocket above the right side pocket,
    intended for train/bus/theatre tickets).

    pt


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Cryptoengineer@3:633/10 to All on Thu Oct 30 14:26:15 2025
    On 10/30/2025 11:32 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 14:33:52 -0400, Cryptoengineer
    <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 10/29/2025 12:09 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:24:34 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    ˙˙ https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse. Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    Pins, collar stiffeners, plastic things ... the list is endless.

    Getting outer garments ready for use is an adventure in wasted time.

    Oh, and the new long-sleeved shirts I bought last year came with ...
    snaps ... instead of buttons. I guess I should have been paying more
    attention when I ordered them.

    The thing that bugs me is that men's formal jackets come with all
    the pockets sewn up.

    I recently bought a very nice Harris Tweed jacket at Walker Slater
    in London. They offered to open the pockets. It took almost 10
    minutes.

    I am reminded of various things in books/movies about a day, a while
    back, when less-than-wealthy types would purchase (or rent) collars,
    cuffs, and a shirt-front and then use a jacket to cover everything
    else.

    So that they could appear to be wearing a full shirt on their budget.

    I wonder how much of the cardboard/plastic stuff dates back to those
    days and were originally intended (all cardboard at the time, of
    course) to help the various forms keep their shape.

    And, of course, there's always Elmer Fudd as orchestra director with
    his shirt-front flopping up. Without detachable shirt fronts, this
    wouldn't have made any sense to the audience.

    This item is known as a 'dickey'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickey_%28garment%29


    pt

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From BCFD 36@3:633/10 to All on Sat Nov 1 01:15:24 2025
    On 10/28/25 19:15, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <10drcak$2ergt$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    [stuff deleted]

    I'm neutral on tags in shirts, but I miss them in briefs. When it's
    dark and I'm half asleep, I need some clues.

    I miss them on both T-shirts and underware. When I am trying to dress in
    the dark, the printed on ones are impossible to find. and rarely have
    the tags been annoying. On occasion, yes, but not usually.

    Plus, if you left the tag sticking up out of the collar of your shirt
    when I was in high school, some cute young thing would point it out and
    fix it for you. Now that I think about it, my wife will still do that on
    the shirts that I have that still have tags.

    --
    ----------------

    Dave Scruggs
    Senior Software Engineer - Lockheed Martin, et. al (mostly Retired)
    Captain - Boulder Creek Fire (Retired)
    Board of Directors - Boulder Creek Fire Protection District (What was I thinking?)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Cryptoengineer@3:633/10 to All on Sat Nov 1 10:51:44 2025
    On 11/1/2025 4:15 AM, BCFD 36 wrote:
    On 10/28/25 19:15, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <10drcak$2ergt$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bobbie Sellers˙ <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    [stuff deleted]

    I'm neutral on tags in shirts, but I miss them in briefs.˙ When it's
    dark and I'm half asleep, I need some clues.

    I miss them on both T-shirts and underware. When I am trying to dress in
    the dark, the printed on ones are impossible to find. and rarely have
    the tags been annoying. On occasion, yes, but not usually.

    Plus, if you left the tag sticking up out of the collar of your shirt
    when I was in high school, some cute young thing would point it out and
    fix it for you. Now that I think about it, my wife will still do that on
    the shirts that I have that still have tags.

    Nice!

    I have some wonderfully soft flannel shirts, otherwise extremely
    comfortable, in which some sadist designer decided to sew a tag
    into the left side seam, at about navel level.

    The tag is made of some much stiffer cloth, and scratches
    annoyingly. I have to cut them out.

    pt

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Sat Nov 1 08:43:24 2025
    On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 01:15:24 -0700, BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 19:15, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <10drcak$2ergt$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    [stuff deleted]

    I'm neutral on tags in shirts, but I miss them in briefs. When it's
    dark and I'm half asleep, I need some clues.

    I miss them on both T-shirts and underware. When I am trying to dress in

    the dark, the printed on ones are impossible to find. and rarely have
    the tags been annoying. On occasion, yes, but not usually.

    I have an old floor lamp (refurbished) next to my bed that I turn on
    when I need to get up in the night. This is so I can get back without
    bumping into things.

    I didn't have to do this 30 years ago, no matter how dark it was, but
    night vision apparently declines with age.

    Perhaps you might wish to consider the possibility of acquiring a
    bed-adjacent lamp for yourself. Not necessarily a floor lamp if you
    happen to have an end-table near enough with space for a lamp on it.

    Plus, if you left the tag sticking up out of the collar of your shirt
    when I was in high school, some cute young thing would point it out and
    fix it for you. Now that I think about it, my wife will still do that on

    the shirts that I have that still have tags.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Scott Lurndal@3:633/10 to All on Sat Nov 1 18:03:54 2025
    BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> writes:
    On 10/28/25 19:15, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <10drcak$2ergt$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    [stuff deleted]

    I'm neutral on tags in shirts, but I miss them in briefs. When it's
    dark and I'm half asleep, I need some clues.

    I miss them on both T-shirts and underware. When I am trying to dress in
    the dark, the printed on ones are impossible to find.

    The printed ones often fade away long before the garment end-of-life.

    Recent T's that I've purchased (Hanes Beefy T's) have gone
    back to using cloth tags.

    In the dark, the shoulder seams can be used to determine
    the back of the shirt. The seams are closer together in
    the back.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Scott Lurndal@3:633/10 to All on Sat Nov 1 18:08:22 2025
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
    On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 01:15:24 -0700, BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 19:15, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <10drcak$2ergt$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    [stuff deleted]
    =20
    I'm neutral on tags in shirts, but I miss them in briefs. When it's
    dark and I'm half asleep, I need some clues.

    I miss them on both T-shirts and underware. When I am trying to dress in= >=20
    the dark, the printed on ones are impossible to find. and rarely have=20 >>the tags been annoying. On occasion, yes, but not usually.

    I have an old floor lamp (refurbished) next to my bed that I turn on
    when I need to get up in the night. This is so I can get back without
    bumping into things.

    One of the ones with the bulb (and foot switch) in the base?

    I get enough ambient light (even on moonless nights) for midnight
    navigation sans artificial light.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From BCFD 36@3:633/10 to All on Sat Nov 1 16:35:25 2025
    On 11/1/25 11:08, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
    On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 01:15:24 -0700, BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 19:15, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <10drcak$2ergt$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    [stuff deleted]
    =20
    I'm neutral on tags in shirts, but I miss them in briefs. When it's
    dark and I'm half asleep, I need some clues.

    I miss them on both T-shirts and underware. When I am trying to dress in= >> =20
    the dark, the printed on ones are impossible to find. and rarely have=20 >>> the tags been annoying. On occasion, yes, but not usually.

    I have an old floor lamp (refurbished) next to my bed that I turn on
    when I need to get up in the night. This is so I can get back without
    bumping into things.

    One of the ones with the bulb (and foot switch) in the base?

    I get enough ambient light (even on moonless nights) for midnight
    navigation sans artificial light.

    I get dressed in the dark (at times) so as not to wake my wife.

    --
    ----------------

    Dave Scruggs
    Senior Software Engineer - Lockheed Martin, et. al (mostly Retired)
    Captain - Boulder Creek Fire (Retired)
    Board of Directors - Boulder Creek Fire Protection District (What was I thinking?)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Sun Nov 2 08:03:04 2025
    On Sat, 01 Nov 2025 18:08:22 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
    wrote:

    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
    On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 01:15:24 -0700, BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 19:15, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <10drcak$2ergt$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    [stuff deleted]
    =20
    I'm neutral on tags in shirts, but I miss them in briefs. When it's
    dark and I'm half asleep, I need some clues.

    I miss them on both T-shirts and underware. When I am trying to dress
    in=
    =20
    the dark, the printed on ones are impossible to find. and rarely
    have=20
    the tags been annoying. On occasion, yes, but not usually.

    I have an old floor lamp (refurbished) next to my bed that I turn on
    when I need to get up in the night. This is so I can get back without >>bumping into things.

    One of the ones with the bulb (and foot switch) in the base?

    Oh, no, either older or more plebeian than that!

    This is a metal base with a pole with two branches, to which the
    lightbulb sockets are attached. Each bulb is intended to be turned off
    and on by itself, by pull-chain.

    I lost the shade and finial but replaced them. The original sockets
    died, so I replaced them with new ones using knobs. However, I don't
    use those -- I also replaced the entire power cord (at the time, I
    needed to be able to move it around a bit depending on where I needed
    the light).

    I also bought an inline switch, which I installed while ignoring /A
    Nightmare on Elm Stree/ and the occasional shock. I then used a small
    zip-tie to attach the inline switch to the pole, so I can turn it on
    and off while sitting/lying down. This is very convenient.

    In theory, since it still uses incandescent bulbs, this is where the
    bulbs I still have will be used when the ones in the lamp die. After
    that, I will go to LED bulbs.

    I should note that, a decade or so ago, when City Light was running a
    problem that informed me each month which of the 100 or so "comparably
    sized oil-heated homes" was using the least electricity, I was
    actually at the top of the list for several months. So I don't want to
    hear about "wasting electricity".

    I get enough ambient light (even on moonless nights) for midnight
    navigation sans artificial light.

    So did I -- 30 years ago or more. As noted in the bit you snipped:

    I didn't have to do this 30 years ago, no matter how dark it was, but
    night vision apparently declines with age.

    But time marches on. I could see well enough on a moonless night out
    in the woods on (practice) maneuvers to manage to not bump into a tree
    whilst wandering about.

    When the moon was out the exact same place in the exact same woods
    looked very different, probably because there was a lot more light to
    see by.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Sun Nov 2 08:04:53 2025
    On Sat, 01 Nov 2025 18:03:54 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
    wrote:

    BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> writes:
    On 10/28/25 19:15, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <10drcak$2ergt$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    [stuff deleted]

    I'm neutral on tags in shirts, but I miss them in briefs. When it's
    dark and I'm half asleep, I need some clues.

    I miss them on both T-shirts and underware. When I am trying to dress
    in
    the dark, the printed on ones are impossible to find.

    The printed ones often fade away long before the garment end-of-life.

    Recent T's that I've purchased (Hanes Beefy T's) have gone
    back to using cloth tags.

    Well, /that's/ a step backwards.

    IMHO, of course. YMMV.

    In the dark, the shoulder seams can be used to determine
    the back of the shirt. The seams are closer together in
    the back.

    I don't usually notice until I've put it on.

    Just because I can /see/ the printed tag doesn't mean I actually
    looked for it!
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Scott Lurndal@3:633/10 to All on Sun Nov 2 16:20:42 2025
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
    On Sat, 01 Nov 2025 18:08:22 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
    wrote:

    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
    On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 01:15:24 -0700, BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 19:15, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <10drcak$2ergt$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    [stuff deleted]
    =3D20
    I'm neutral on tags in shirts, but I miss them in briefs. When it's >>>>> dark and I'm half asleep, I need some clues.

    I miss them on both T-shirts and underware. When I am trying to dress = >in=3D
    =3D20
    the dark, the printed on ones are impossible to find. and rarely = >have=3D20
    the tags been annoying. On occasion, yes, but not usually.

    I have an old floor lamp (refurbished) next to my bed that I turn on
    when I need to get up in the night. This is so I can get back without >>>bumping into things.

    One of the ones with the bulb (and foot switch) in the base?

    Oh, no, either older or more plebeian than that!

    The ones I remember were early 20th century, much like this
    one:

    https://www.lampshadepro.com/antique-gold-6-way-floor-lamp-w-lighted-base-63-h-sale.html


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 3 08:40:27 2025
    On Sun, 02 Nov 2025 16:20:42 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
    wrote:

    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
    On Sat, 01 Nov 2025 18:08:22 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) >>wrote:

    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
    On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 01:15:24 -0700, BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 19:15, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <10drcak$2ergt$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote: >>>>>[stuff deleted]
    =3D20
    I'm neutral on tags in shirts, but I miss them in briefs. When
    it's
    dark and I'm half asleep, I need some clues.

    I miss them on both T-shirts and underware. When I am trying to
    dress =
    in=3D
    =3D20
    the dark, the printed on ones are impossible to find. and rarely = >>have=3D20
    the tags been annoying. On occasion, yes, but not usually.

    I have an old floor lamp (refurbished) next to my bed that I turn on >>>>when I need to get up in the night. This is so I can get back without >>>>bumping into things.

    One of the ones with the bulb (and foot switch) in the base?

    Oh, no, either older or more plebeian than that!

    The ones I remember were early 20th century, much like this
    one:

    https://www.lampshadepro.com/antique-gold-6-way-floor-lamp-w-lighted-bas e-63-h-sale.html

    They don't even have iron floor lamps listed. Then again, I suppose it
    could be brass covered with black enamel. But I don't think so; I
    remember it having some heft to it, implying iron.

    I think this is more a matter of being plebeian than being extremely
    old.

    Although I can't remember how old I was when I was given it. Perhaps
    the 50s, certainly by 1969, and it was old then.

    I had a fine time finding a replacement switch when the first one
    (used in the mid-80s) died: the hardware store I went to (now gone,
    zoning and property taxes based on "best use" drove them away) was so
    confusing that I had to get directions to the right section, and I
    almost gave up when I spotted it hiding in plain sight.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)