Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=9CLatest_Arctic_Ice_Measurements_Are_In!_=E2=80=94?=
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“Latest Arctic Ice Measurements Are In! — Someone Get Al Gore A Tissue”

https://clashdaily.com/2025/07/latest-arctic-ice-measurements-are-in-someone-get-al-gore-a-tissue/

“Before that, Al Gore had confidently predicted that the sea ice would
be gone in just a few years, both in his ‘documentary’ (the one that
lost some court battles concerning its claims) and his ‘Day After Tomorrow’ cataclysm movie where the polar ice slid into the ocean,
causing New York to freeze over.”

“Our allegedly ‘fragile’ planet needs to be saved from us, we are routinely told, as the environment is invoked again and again as the
blunt instrument we are hit over the head with as a justification for increasingly draconian expectations curtailing the freedom of ordinary people.”

“But since they have been pretty consistent in their own alarmism about
the loss of sea ice, it should be an important data point that current
levels of sea ice exceed levels recorded in the very first year of
tracking them — 1981.”

“Better still, there are only two years in the last 20 in which recorded levels of sea ice coverage were more than this year’s levels.”

“So, how will we POSSIBLY break the sad news to Al Gore?”

Lynn


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Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=E2=80=9CLatest_Arctic_Ice_Measurements_Are_In!_?=
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On 21/07/2025 23:00, Lynn McGuire wrote:

“But since they have been pretty consistent in their own alarmism about the loss of sea ice, it should be an important data point that current levels of sea ice exceed levels recorded in the very first year of
tracking them — 1981.”

Whoever runs that site is guilty of some pretty obvious cherrypicking
of their figures.

The graphs are available for five areas - Eastern Arctic, East Coast,
Hudson Bay, Western Arctic and Great Lakes. In four of those five, ice coverage is well below 1981 levels. Failing to point this out is heavily disingenuous at best.

From https://iceweb1.cis.ec.gc.ca/Prod/page1.xhtml

pick "Ice Cover Graph", "Ice Cover Graph - Historical Total Accumulated
Ice Coverage" and "All"

If anyone's interested in what the Met Office has to say, complete with
graphs covering the same period, you can look here:


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/approach/monitoring/sea-ice/2025/briefing-on-arctic-and-antarctic-sea-ice---july-2025

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Reply-To: slp53@pacbell.net

Graham <zotzlists@gmail.com> writes:

On 21/07/2025 23:00, Lynn McGuire wrote:

“But since they have been pretty consistent in their own alarmism about >> the loss of sea ice, it should be an important data point that current
levels of sea ice exceed levels recorded in the very first year of
tracking them — 1981.”

Whoever runs that site is guilty of some pretty obvious cherrypicking
of their figures.

The graphs are available for five areas - Eastern Arctic, East Coast,
Hudson Bay, Western Arctic and Great Lakes. In four of those five, ice >coverage is well below 1981 levels. Failing to point this out is heavily >disingenuous at best.

It's Lynn, ideology trumps facts in his world.

https://earth.gsfc.nasa.gov/cryo/data/current-state-sea-ice-cover

From https://iceweb1.cis.ec.gc.ca/Prod/page1.xhtml

pick "Ice Cover Graph", "Ice Cover Graph - Historical Total Accumulated
Ice Coverage" and "All"

If anyone's interested in what the Met Office has to say, complete with >graphs covering the same period, you can look here:

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/approach/monitoring/sea-ice/2025/briefing-on-arctic-and-antarctic-sea-ice---july-2025

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Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=93Latest_Arctic_Ice_?=
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 17:00:42 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

=93Latest Arctic Ice Measurements Are In! =97 Someone Get Al Gore A = Tissue=94
=20
https://clashdaily.com/2025/07/latest-arctic-ice-measurements-are-in-som= eone-get-al-gore-a-tissue/

=93Before that, Al Gore had confidently predicted that the sea ice would=

=20

be gone in just a few years, both in his =91documentary=92 (the one that=

=20

lost some court battles concerning its claims) and his =91Day After=20 >Tomorrow=92 cataclysm movie where the polar ice slid into the ocean,=20 >causing New York to freeze over.=94

<snippo nonsense others have addressed>

/The Day After Tomorrow/ came out two years before /An Inconvient
Truth/. Gore appears to have had nothing to do with the former.

And /The Day After Tomorrow/ contains no "polar ice slid[ing] into the
ocean". New York -- indeed the Northern half of the USA -- does indeed
freeze over, however.

So here's the question: here we have a site that cannot even get its
movies right. Why should we trust them to get anything else right?
("right" here meaning "correct", BTW)
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"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_=e2=80=9cLatest_Arctic_Ice_Measurements_Are_In!_?=
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Lynn McGuire wrote:

“Latest Arctic Ice Measurements Are In! — Someone Get Al Gore A Tissue”

https://clashdaily.com/2025/07/latest-arctic-ice-measurements-are-in-someone-get-al-gore-a-tissue/

“Before that, Al Gore had confidently predicted that the sea ice would
be gone in just a few years, both in his ‘documentary’ (the one that lost some court battles concerning its claims) and his ‘Day After Tomorrow’ cataclysm movie where the polar ice slid into the ocean,
causing New York to freeze over.”

Ah, Lynn. You and reality are at best distant acquaintances.

Actually, as this is an SF group, and alternate realities are a common
subject of SF, let us consider an alternate universe where Lynn and
Trump are right about everything.

Let's see. Could we write books based on the following?

(1) Donald Trump is a self-made man

(2) By selling the US oil at below world prices for fifty years, Canada
is ripping off the US.

(3) Biden appointed Jerome Powell

(3a) Biden was president in 2017

(4) The US will fall apart in five years.

(5) Fentanyl is flooding into the US from Canada (maybe we pack it in
the pipelines?).

(5) The world is not growing warmer

(5a) North America's fires are due to lazy people who don't rake
forests, unlike the industrious folk of the 1990s.

(6) USMCA is the greatest trade deal of all time. All credit to Pres Trump.

(7) USMCA is the worst trade deal of all time. All blame to someone else.

We could go on. But what should be the pen name? I'd go with "Angery American", but that is taken.

William Hyde



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