• Re: Bulldog Drummond Strikes Back

    From Joy Beeson@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Jul 8 03:43:39 2025
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 21:57:39 -0400, Joy Beeson
    <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:

    Come bedtime Wednesday, I'll be reading Usenet, and with
    luck it will take months to find out how _Lost Burgundy_
    comes out.

    No luck. I know how _Lost Burgundy_ came out, and am a few
    chapters into Ethics for Nurses. (1916, IRRC)

    Early on it says that first of all, a good nurse is a good
    woman, then a few pages later includes a quote that says
    that every person in a hospital has his duty.

    Shows that they still believed that only women could be
    nurses, but had not yet adopted the meme that women were
    delicate sub-human creatures who are never included unless
    specifically mentioned.

    I recall when "male nurse" didn't mean quite the same thing
    as "RN", and they worked only in mental hospitals and other
    places where an imposing physical presence might be
    required.

    Mom came home from work once and told us the story of a
    patient who wouldn't let a male nurse attend to her until
    Mom put her cap on him.

    The only caps I've seen at Parkview are the ones on the
    call-button icons.

    I wonder how many of the people now alive know why there's a
    cap on that icon.

    Time to put my pajamas into my go bag and go back to
    Parkview.

    --
    Joy Beeson
    joy beeson at centurylink dot net
    http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/


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  • From Robert Carnegie@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Jul 8 08:55:53 2025
    On 07/07/2025 18:43, Joy Beeson wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 21:57:39 -0400, Joy Beeson
    <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:

    Come bedtime Wednesday, I'll be reading Usenet, and with
    luck it will take months to find out how _Lost Burgundy_
    comes out.

    No luck. I know how _Lost Burgundy_ came out, and am a few
    chapters into Ethics for Nurses. (1916, IRRC)

    Early on it says that first of all, a good nurse is a good
    woman, then a few pages later includes a quote that says
    that every person in a hospital has his duty.

    Shows that they still believed that only women could be
    nurses, but had not yet adopted the meme that women were
    delicate sub-human creatures who are never included unless
    specifically mentioned.

    Or - the difference between book author
    and quoted author, aside - the pronoun "his"
    was being allowed to stand for a man or a woman.

    It could even be from Florence Nightingale.

    If anyone thinks we have too many pronouns now,
    i could argue that this example shows that in the
    past, we had too few. Although there, the good old
    "singular they" would have worked.

    Also, "nurse" used not to imply having education
    in medical practices. Just... showing up.
    I'm thinking about the Charles Dickens novel
    standard of nursing.


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  • From Joy Beeson@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jul 10 11:35:11 2025
    On Mon, 7 Jul 2025 23:55:53 +0100, Robert Carnegie
    <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:

    Also, "nurse" used not to imply having education
    in medical practices.

    Hence the expression "trained nurse", followed by
    "Registered Nurse" and "Licensed Practical Nurse". There
    was another kind, which I have now forgotten.

    There used to be a Red Cross course called "home nursing".

    I think I had more to say, but I just fell asleep. But I'm
    going to sleep in my own bed.

    Kept wanting to ask the nurses (several varieties, all
    wearing the same scrub suits, including the housekeeping
    staff) silly questions such as "are student nurses still
    forbidden to run." Which came to me as I was "nurse
    walking" to the car for something.

    Ah, I think the root meaning of "nurse" is the kind rich
    people hired to take care of small children.


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  • From Bobbie Sellers@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jul 10 15:07:58 2025
    Reply-To: blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com



    On 7/9/25 18:35, Joy Beeson wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Jul 2025 23:55:53 +0100, Robert Carnegie
    <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:

    Also, "nurse" used not to imply having education
    in medical practices.

    Hence the expression "trained nurse", followed by
    "Registered Nurse" and "Licensed Practical Nurse". There
    was another kind, which I have now forgotten.

    There used to be a Red Cross course called "home nursing".

    I think I had more to say, but I just fell asleep. But I'm
    going to sleep in my own bed.

    Kept wanting to ask the nurses (several varieties, all
    wearing the same scrub suits, including the housekeeping
    staff) silly questions such as "are student nurses still
    forbidden to run." Which came to me as I was "nurse
    walking" to the car for something.

    Ah, I think the root meaning of "nurse" is the kind rich
    people hired to take care of small children.


    No. The original were nursing mothers with enough milk for the
    Mistress's child. You are thinking of other positions with slightly
    older children.
    I am trained in among other things, Licensed Vocational Nursing.
    I do my best to avoid nursing due to my own health problems.

    bliss


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