• Conan

    From Michael F. Stemper@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jun 12 05:06:08 2025
    Robert E. Howard's Conan (of many suffixes) is a cultural icon. In the late 1960s, Lancer Books began a project to publish of all of Howard's Conan
    works -- plus a little.

    The volume titled simply _Conan_[1] is the fifth one published, but relates Conan's earliest exploits. It contains assorted background information,
    as well as seven stories.

    Throughout this recap, the following are used:
    REH: Robert E. Howard
    LSC; L. Sprague de Camp
    LC: Lin Carter
    PSM: P. Schuyler Miller

    Introduction (LSC): Some biographical information about REH and how
    the stories came to be written.

    Letter to PSM (REH)): Approving response to PSM's working out of a
    chronology of Conan stories.

    The Hyborean Age, Part I (REH): Part of an essay giving the history
    of the world for several millenia prior to Conan coming on the scene.

    Now, the stories start.

    The Thing in the Crypt (REH, LC): In an underground storeroom, Conan
    fights a corpse and comes out of it with a nice sword.

    The Tower of the Elephant (REH): After a bar fight, Conan goes to the
    titular tower to steal a fabulous jewel, The Heart of the Elephant. He encounters another thief, with whom he teams up. The other theif doesn't
    make it; Conan uses the jewel to magically kill a sorceror who has been
    around from before the fall of Atlantis.

    The Hall of the Dead (REH, LSC): Conan is pursued, by those who wish to
    slay him, into a ruined city that has a reputation for killing all who
    enter. He takes on a giant slug, teams up with the leader (and only
    survivor) of the pursuers, takes on some zombies.

    The God in the Bowl (REH): Conan is caught red-handed burglarizing a
    temple where a murder has just happened. A cop is summoned, with his
    boss tagging along. The cop is ready to hang Conan, but surprisingly
    to me, his boss wants to investigate Conan's story before doing
    anything permanent.

    Rogues in the House (REH): Conan agrees to kill the enemy of a noble
    in exchange for being released from the prison where he is awaiting
    execution. By the time that his escape was to have been allowed, the
    guard that was bribed to abet it has been killed. Conan gets out on
    his own, and debates with himself before deciding to live up to his
    part of the bargain anyway.

    The Hand of Nergal (REH, LC): From the field of a horrific battle,
    Conan is recruited to retrieve a magical artifact.

    The City of Skulls (LC, LSC): Conan is captured and sold as a galley
    slave.

    Conan does not always get out of his scrapes with his sword. In fact, sometimes, he doesn't even get out due to his own efforts, but has
    help from others -- even a slave-girl or two.

    He sometimes ends one of his adventures with bags of loot, other
    times he's lucky to escape alive. He can't hold onto his gains, but
    blows them all on drinking and whoring. Conveniently, this sets the
    stage for another adventure.

    Alkthough a barbarian, he has an ill-defined code of honor. It includes
    keeping his word and not taking a woman by physical force or duress.

    The stories don't always start with him; the initial focus is often
    elsewhere, with him making an appearance after a few hundred or even
    a few thousand words.

    Although I read this volume in 1996 and again in 2005, I remembered
    absolutely nothing about it. It's nice to be able to reread something
    and have it be fresh.

    My nearly sixty year old MMPB is in amazingly good condition for a
    Lancer product, with only two loose pages.

    Note that the ISFDB listing says "The artist is not credited, ..."
    However, my copy says "COVER PAINTING BY FRANK FRAZETTA" on the page
    facing the title page.

    [1] <https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?7653>

    --
    Michael F. Stemper
    This sentence no verb.

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  • From William Hyde@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jun 12 09:30:07 2025
    Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <102ck30$2525n$1@dont-email.me>,
    Michael F. Stemper <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
    Robert E. Howard's Conan (of many suffixes) is a cultural icon. In the late >> 1960s, Lancer Books began a project to publish of all of Howard's Conan
    works -- plus a little.

    The volume titled simply _Conan_[1] is the fifth one published, but relates >> Conan's earliest exploits. It contains assorted background information,
    as well as seven stories.

    Throughout this recap, the following are used:
    REH: Robert E. Howard
    LSC; L. Sprague de Camp
    LC: Lin Carter
    PSM: P. Schuyler Miller

    Introduction (LSC): Some biographical information about REH and how
    the stories came to be written.

    Letter to PSM (REH)): Approving response to PSM's working out of a
    chronology of Conan stories.

    The Hyborean Age, Part I (REH): Part of an essay giving the history
    of the world for several millenia prior to Conan coming on the scene.

    Now, the stories start.

    The Thing in the Crypt (REH, LC): In an underground storeroom, Conan
    fights a corpse and comes out of it with a nice sword.

    The Tower of the Elephant (REH): After a bar fight, Conan goes to the
    titular tower to steal a fabulous jewel, The Heart of the Elephant. He
    encounters another thief, with whom he teams up. The other theif doesn't
    make it; Conan uses the jewel to magically kill a sorceror who has been
    around from before the fall of Atlantis.

    The Hall of the Dead (REH, LSC): Conan is pursued, by those who wish to
    slay him, into a ruined city that has a reputation for killing all who
    enter. He takes on a giant slug, teams up with the leader (and only
    survivor) of the pursuers, takes on some zombies.

    The God in the Bowl (REH): Conan is caught red-handed burglarizing a
    temple where a murder has just happened. A cop is summoned, with his
    boss tagging along. The cop is ready to hang Conan, but surprisingly
    to me, his boss wants to investigate Conan's story before doing
    anything permanent.

    Rogues in the House (REH): Conan agrees to kill the enemy of a noble
    in exchange for being released from the prison where he is awaiting
    execution. By the time that his escape was to have been allowed, the
    guard that was bribed to abet it has been killed. Conan gets out on
    his own, and debates with himself before deciding to live up to his
    part of the bargain anyway.

    The Hand of Nergal (REH, LC): From the field of a horrific battle,
    Conan is recruited to retrieve a magical artifact.

    The City of Skulls (LC, LSC): Conan is captured and sold as a galley
    slave.

    Conan does not always get out of his scrapes with his sword. In fact,
    sometimes, he doesn't even get out due to his own efforts, but has
    help from others -- even a slave-girl or two.

    He sometimes ends one of his adventures with bags of loot, other
    times he's lucky to escape alive. He can't hold onto his gains, but
    blows them all on drinking and whoring. Conveniently, this sets the
    stage for another adventure.

    Alkthough a barbarian, he has an ill-defined code of honor. It includes
    keeping his word and not taking a woman by physical force or duress.

    The stories don't always start with him; the initial focus is often
    elsewhere, with him making an appearance after a few hundred or even
    a few thousand words.

    Although I read this volume in 1996 and again in 2005, I remembered
    absolutely nothing about it. It's nice to be able to reread something
    and have it be fresh.

    My nearly sixty year old MMPB is in amazingly good condition for a
    Lancer product, with only two loose pages.

    Note that the ISFDB listing says "The artist is not credited, ..."
    However, my copy says "COVER PAINTING BY FRANK FRAZETTA" on the page
    facing the title page.

    [1] <https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?7653>

    --
    Michael F. Stemper
    This sentence no verb.

    I think "Rogues In The House" is the funniest Conan story (though I still have a couple to read).

    As I recall, the Lancer volumes were not for purists as deCamp & Carter tended to take unrelated Howard stories and recast them as Conan ones,
    or make them up out of whole cloth.

    To say the least.

    Here and there I've run into Conan fans who were incredibly angry with
    deCamp, to the point of mania.

    Possibly one of the reasons I've never read Conan, fear it might be
    catching.

    IIRC one G. Gygax wasn't all that happy with the first movie, either. I
    hope he didn't use up all his expletives, as the second movie was yet to
    come.


    William Hyde



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  • From Michael F. Stemper@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jun 12 10:40:13 2025
    On 11/06/2025 17.57, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <102ck30$2525n$1@dont-email.me>,
    Michael F. Stemper <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
    Robert E. Howard's Conan (of many suffixes) is a cultural icon. In the late >> 1960s, Lancer Books began a project to publish of all of Howard's Conan
    works -- plus a little.

    The volume titled simply _Conan_[1] is the fifth one published, but relates >> Conan's earliest exploits. It contains assorted background information,
    as well as seven stories.

    Throughout this recap, the following are used:
    REH: Robert E. Howard
    LSC; L. Sprague de Camp
    LC: Lin Carter
    PSM: P. Schuyler Miller


    My nearly sixty year old MMPB is in amazingly good condition for a
    Lancer product, with only two loose pages.

    Note that the ISFDB listing says "The artist is not credited, ..."
    However, my copy says "COVER PAINTING BY FRANK FRAZETTA" on the page
    facing the title page.

    [1] <https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?7653>

    I think "Rogues In The House" is the funniest Conan story (though I still have a couple to read).

    As I recall, the Lancer volumes were not for purists as deCamp & Carter tended to take unrelated Howard stories and recast them as Conan ones,
    or make them up out of whole cloth.

    That is quite true. More of the former than the latter, I believe, but I haven't gone through all of the copyright pages (and don't intend to).

    The later Del Rey re-issues are probably the gold standard, as they went
    back to Howard's original manuscripts whereever possible (which was more times than you would think), undoing edits made by magazine editors.
    Also included are a number of outlines and partial stories.

    Interesting. But, I have the Lancers, and they're all that I'm going to read.

    My son is listening to Conan (which is what made me start pulling them off
    of my shelves). He said to me that "Robert Jordan is the second-most canonical Conan author, after Howard."

    I have a feeling that purists (which I'm obviously not) would burst several blood vessels upon hearing that.


    --
    Michael F. Stemper
    Psalm 82:3-4

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