• "Turkish Delight in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe"

    From Lenona@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu May 8 10:42:24 2025
    I found this at r/cooking. It brought up a couple of points I had never
    thought of!


    https://www.reddit.com/r/Cooking/comments/1kgiu8u/whats_the_most_overrated_dish_youve_ever_tried/

    "What’s the most overrated dish you’ve ever tried?"


    "I don’t mean “bad,” just something everyone seems to love that didn’t live up to the hype for you.

    "Maybe it was something trendy on social media, a “must-try” restaurant dish, or a classic that people swear by but just didn’t do it for you."


    moxiewhoreon
    I spent so much of my childhood wondering how magical Turkish Delight
    had to be for that kid to sell out his family (and an entire alternate
    world) for. And then I tried it in my 20s and....ugh.

    Terrible-Notice-7617
    Definitely not "sell out your family good" but if you find a good
    Turkish delight it is wonderful. But a good Turkish delight is extremely
    hard to find, sadly.


    Weed_O_Whirler
    I felt the same way, until a Turkish guy took me to a small shop in
    Istanbul and ordered me some, and my first thought was "I'd betray my
    sister for this."


    vertigo42
    One it's rationed england in WW2. Sweets and sugar are rare. 2 it's
    magical Turkish delight that is designed to basically take Edmond over.


    Purple-Pound-6759
    I think this is it - well, not just that, but the fact that, 70+ years
    ago, British diets were much less sweet in general, with less processed
    foods and refined sugar.

    A lot of the time, when I hear people dislike Turkish delight, it's
    because it tastes soapy, but when your palate is desensitised to sugar,
    it won't taste sweet with floral notes, but rather floral with sweet
    notes.

    I personally like Turkish delight, even the cheap ones. I think floral
    flavours are generally underused, especially in confectionery. But maybe
    I'm just weird like that.

    StarsofSobek
    No, it definitely was (enchanted). Poor Edmund, he just didn't realise
    he was making a deal with the devil. The whole excerpt explains that
    Queen Jadis magically produced several pounds of Turkish Delight, which
    Edmund then consumed. He even asks for more. The Queen denies him,
    because he would likely eat himself to death. He even feels sickly
    after, once the Queen has gone. The scene is to establish how warm, and inviting, and even motherly the Queen became to Edmund at a time in his
    young life when he felt displaced and angry and perhaps even frightened
    (we have to remember, Edmund was a young lad who was separated from all
    the comforts of home, and they were moved to the country to stay safe
    during the war. Edmund wasn't coping well with the changes, let alone
    getting on well with his siblings...) The Queen absolutely takes
    advantage of this. Enchanted food reminds Edmund of home and comfort -
    that makes him feel warm and safe, and he craves everything, even the
    Queen's empty promises - it gives us an idea of how cruel, manipulative, pervasive, and sly her evil can be.

    CumpireStateBuilding
    You might enjoy it a little more if the last memory you have of your
    childhood home is of it getting bombed by Nazis


    BostonBestEats
    It was magical Turkish Delight. Of course it tasted amazing.

    "While he was eating the Queen kept asking him questions. At first
    Edmund tried to remember that it is rude to speak with one’s mouth full,
    but soon he forgot about this and thought only of trying to shovel down
    as much Turkish Delight as he could, and the more he ate the more he
    wanted to eat..."

    You've only had non-magical Turkish Delight, and probably the usual
    pretty crappy version too. That's like saying you had a Hershey's Kiss
    and that chocolate isn't really that good.


    LittleBlag
    Also we aren’t kids who’ve grown up with absolutely 0 sugar from wartime rationing. Of COURSE something that is 99% sugar (and 100% magic, I
    definitely agree with you there) is going to blow your tiny little mind


    makiir
    I loved Turkish delight as a kid but still wouldn't have sold out my
    family for it (but if I had been a kid on war rations and evacuating
    from the London Blitz in the 1940s, maybe I would have)


    theduckopera
    GOOD Turkish delight is a thing of beauty. In my home city in Australia
    we have a lot of Turkish places and their Turkish delight is delicate
    powdery melt in the mouth wonderful. I lived in the States for years and
    never had Turkish delight that even slightly measured up. So I think
    it's a treat that varies wildly in quality depending where you are.
    Also, Edmund probably hadn't had sugar in months and Skittles were yet
    to be invented.


    Hungry_Panic_2482
    Weren't they were on war rations or something, the kid wasn't just sugar deprived, he was probably also losing weight from not eating enough
    regularly, then went on a fantasy adventure with sporadic meal times

    dirthawker0
    When I was a kid my folks would buy Aplets and cotlets (the Armenian
    immigrant version of Turkish delight) and those were pretty damn good.
    Would 8 year old me betray the fam for it? Maybe...

    Since then I've occasionally bought TD in European import groceries and
    that stuff is kind of terrible by comparison. Hard and not as flavorful.

    StarsofSobek
    My partner is Irish. Turkish delight is his absolute favourite treat. As
    an American, I only knew about it from reading, The Lion, The Witch, and
    The Wardrobe, and I had always wanted to try it. He was hyped and so
    excited to find me authentic Turkish delight and to share that first
    experience of tasting it with me.

    ...I am still so sad by how disappointing it was. Lol! It was always
    such a magical idea, but the reality is it's a rosewater or lemon
    flavoured jelly candy dusted in sugar powder or coated in a milk
    chocolate. I'd still give it another shot if say, someone could give me
    an authentic bite of a family recipe or something, but...yeah. That
    said, I think my partner would happily trade a foot for some proper
    Turkish delight. He really does love it! 🤣


    Harper_Macallan
    In the Houston area, we have Royal Roastery which imports Turkish goods
    and makes specialty treats in-house. Took my kids there for a birthday,
    and ended up coming home with three pounds of Turkish delight, after the manager let them sample probably twenty flavors. It was INCREDIBLE, and
    I highly recommend real Turkish delight. Their previous experience had
    been limited to the boxed crap shared with them after reading CS Lewis,
    as well, so they’ve really had the full range. For what it’s worth, I
    think Royal Roastery will also mail you orders, and they have a
    multitude of flavors to pick from.

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  • From William Hyde@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri May 9 05:04:04 2025
    Lenona wrote:
    I found this at r/cooking. It brought up a couple of points I had never thought of!


    https://www.reddit.com/r/Cooking/comments/1kgiu8u/whats_the_most_overrated_dish_youve_ever_tried/

    Turkish delight is mentioned, with some disgust, in a Peter Wimsey
    novel. It is used as a vehicle for poisoning.

    We may assume that Dorothy Sayers didn't like it much, but this we
    before the WWII sugar shortages.

    William Hyde

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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri May 9 06:08:30 2025
    On 5/8/2025 2:04 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    Lenona wrote:
    I found this at r/cooking. It brought up a couple of points I had never
    thought of!


    https://www.reddit.com/r/Cooking/comments/1kgiu8u/
    whats_the_most_overrated_dish_youve_ever_tried/

    Turkish delight is mentioned, with some disgust, in a Peter Wimsey
    novel. It is used as a vehicle for poisoning.

    We may assume that Dorothy Sayers didn't like it much, but this we
    before the WWII sugar shortages.

    William Hyde

    My paternal grandmother used to make blackberry jam and red plum jam for
    the family and to sell to the neighbors in College Station, Texas,
    including the TAMU students. The sugar rationing in WWII really cut
    back her jam making for several years.

    Harvesting the blackberries at their old farm in Wellborn, Texas was a
    dicey move as the paper wasps liked to make their nests deep in the
    blackberry vines. I was always prepared to run while grabbing a clump.

    Lynn


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  • From Steve Coltrin@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat May 10 01:21:59 2025
    ....I like Turkish delight.

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  • From Lenona@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat May 10 01:33:58 2025
    On Thu, 8 May 2025 20:59:42 +0000, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan wrote:

    Well, blackberries are pretty dicey even unwasped. I've shed blood for
    them
    many times.

    Me too.

    It reminds me of the charming book "The Good and Bad Berries," by
    Austrian writer/illustrator Ida Bohatta Morpurgo. You can see all 12
    color plates here:

    https://mflibra.com/products/1943-rare-first-us-edition-the-good-and-bad-berries-illustrated-by-ida-bohatta-morpurgo?srsltid=AfmBOorRlHc2TO8ULtijFbbk159CNiPKaniqze9iu40kE1S5lnzFpgEq

    Also see:

    https://www.rubylane.com/item/1682041-RL-915/Good-Bad-Berries

    The English translation is from 1943 - the original may be from 1936.

    Here's what it says next to the blackberry page (you can't see all the
    pages with verses):

    "The Blackberry has cruel thorns,
    She'll scratch and hurt you badly.
    She also has delicious fruit,
    Which she will give you gladly.
    So if you use cruel words as thorns
    And wound your loving friends,
    Be like the blackberry and show
    That you can make amends."


    But in the meantime, let's get back to Turkish Delight!

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