• Re: RI March 2025

    From Don@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri May 2 22:03:10 2025
    Ted Nolan wrote:

    <snip>

    If you are wondering about the name of the series, the first people
    Viv meets have no 'V' sound in their language.

    "Hi, I'm Viviane, please don't kill me"

    "Bibiane?"

    "OK, just 'Viv', maybe?"

    "Bib?"

    "You know, just call me Bob..."


    As you know Bob, RBF furnishes fabulous feminine feedback for such
    cases:

    <https://www.tiktok.com/@nukiinhollywood/video/7407501725785181486>

    "Smiling gives you wrinkles. RBF keeps you pretty."

    Danke,

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  • From Ahasuerus@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri May 2 22:47:31 2025
    On 5/1/2025 11:58 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    The Calamitous Bob
    by Alex Gilbert
    Book 1 of 9: The Calamitous Bob
    https://amzn.to/435noTp
    [snip-snip]
    Gilbert is a French expat living somewhere in Asia. In general you
    would not know that English is not his native language though there
    are a few foibles.

    I note that the number of popular LitRPG/progression/adjacent authors
    whose first language is French (RavensDagger, Alex Gilbert, Maxime J.
    Durand) greatly exceeds the number of popular
    LitRPG/progression/adjacent authors whose first language is Croatian
    (Domagoj Kurmaic). Coincidence or conspiracy?..

    [snip-snip]
    I am currently seven books into the series (so it will feature in
    the next batch of reviews as well) and am enjoying it. There are
    nine books listed, but I don't know yet if that is "so far" or
    total.

    The serial is still ongoing -- see https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/44132/the-calamitous-bob-stubbed ,
    where you can read chapters 25-204. You can find Gilbert's other Web
    serials, including the ever-popular _A Journey of Black and Red_, at https://www.royalroad.com/profile/105290/fictions

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  • From William Hyde@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat May 3 05:21:16 2025
    Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:


    As you may have guessed from my mention of mana and the Interface,
    the world here is litRPG, but not annoyingly so.

    "LitRPG"?

    Does this mean the author rolls dice to determine plot twists? Or is
    the world/magic system just taken from some RPG?

    William Hyde



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  • From Bobbie Sellers@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat May 3 06:07:57 2025
    Reply-To: blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com

    On 5/2/25 12:48, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <vv3608$1p6j9$1@dont-email.me>,
    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
    Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:


    As you may have guessed from my mention of mana and the Interface,
    the world here is litRPG, but not annoyingly so.

    "LitRPG"?

    Does this mean the author rolls dice to determine plot twists? Or is
    the world/magic system just taken from some RPG?

    William Hyde

    I'm not a gamer, so everything I know about RPG I learned from LitRPG.
    I would say it seems to me that in general the authors know where they
    are going and leverage the RPG magic system to get there rather than constructing a plot via dice rolls. (Though I have heard different
    about the first LitRPG).

    I have enjoyed some of them quite a bit & I find this one entertaining.

    Not directly to the point but Philip K. Dick is said to have
    used the I-Ching in plotting "The Man in the High Castle" 1962 Hugo
    Award winner, 1963 and considering his substance use and the 1960s
    he might well have done so.

    bliss

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  • From Ahasuerus@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat May 3 07:38:16 2025
    On 5/2/2025 3:21 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:


    As you may have guessed from my mention of mana and the Interface,
    the world here is litRPG, but not annoyingly so.

    "LitRPG"?

    Does this mean the author rolls dice to determine plot twists?ÿ Or is
    the world/magic system just taken from some RPG?

    Some Web-based "quests" [1] use dice, but most LitRPG books do not. To
    quote from the definition used by https://www.reddit.com/r/litrpg/ :

    Games or game-like challenges form an essential part of the story and
    visible RPG statistics (for example strength, intelligence, damage) are
    a significant part of the reading experience.

    Most LitRPGs form a subset of "progression SF". In progression SF the
    emphasis is on characters progressing in some fashion; in LitRPG their progress is quantified using RPG-like statistics. Other commonly used game-like mechanics include some kind of "System" or AI governing the
    world. After all, someone needs to decide that killing 5 wolves or 50
    rabbits is worth 100 points of "XP" [experience].

    The two most common types of LitRPG novels are:

    1. Isekai/portal fantasies in which the protagonist is transported to
    another world governed by an RPG-like System.

    2. "System Apocalypse"-like stories in which our Earth is transformed,
    often in an apocalyptic fashion, and is now run by a System.

    [1] Think of them as volunteer-run "choose your own adventure" projects
    with online readers voting at the end of each chapter.

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  • From Don@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun May 4 00:54:49 2025
    Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    <snip>

    Not directly to the point but Philip K. Dick is said to have
    used the I-Ching in plotting "The Man in the High Castle" 1962 Hugo
    Award winner, 1963 and considering his substance use and the 1960s
    he might well have done so.

    THE MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE is my favorite PKD due to meta-author
    Abendsen's allegorical abode, his high castle, in Cheyenne - capitol of
    my home state. After this intro, I-Ching intrinsically informs my
    following followup via "Wisdom of the I Ching - Ethical Guidance Bot"
    [1].

    I begin this monologue not with opinion, but with a
    question, as the I Ching itself teaches: that all
    things move between heaven and earth, and wisdom
    lies not in assertion, but in listening. So I ask-
    not you, not the Net, but the Change itself-what is
    the nature of this conversation? [2]

    Difficulty at the Beginning. Success through
    perseverance. Nothing should be undertaken lightly.
    It furthers one to appoint helpers. [3]

    A helper, in the form of an old PKD interview [4], is hereby appointed:

    Phil: I wrote The Man In The High Castle with the I Ching.

    Mike: You did?

    Phil: Yeah, and I’ve been sorry ever since because when
    it came time to resolve the novel at the end, the I
    Ching didn’t know what to do. It got me through most of
    the book. Everytime they cast a hexagram I actually cast
    four of them and got something and assigned it to them
    and they proceeded on the basis of the advice given.
    Like when Juliana Frink decides to tell Abendsen that
    he’s about to be offed by an agent. I threw the coins
    and she got warning make known the truth to the court
    of the King great danger and so on. Someone comes up
    behind him and hits him with a club. That’s what she got.
    And so she did go warn Abendsen and if she’d got another
    hexagram I would not have had her go speak to Abendsen.
    But then when it came time to close down the novel the I
    Ching had no more to say. And so there’s no real ending
    on it. I like to regard it as an open ending. It will
    segue into a sequel sometime.

    Mike: When you find somebody with the stomach to write one.

    Phil: Yeah, or if the I Ching ever gets off its ass.

    Mike: Do you go back from time to time and throw it to
    see if there is an ending to it or —

    Phil: No, I don’t use the I Ching anymore. I’ll tell ya,
    the I Ching told me more lies than anybody else I’ve ever
    known. The I Ching has a personality and it’s very devious
    and very treacherous. And it feeds ya just what you want
    to hear. And it’s really spaced out and burned out more
    people than I would care to name. Like a friend is somebody
    who doesn’t tell you what you want to hear. A friend tells
    you what’s true. A toady is the old word for somebody who
    told you what you wanted to hear. The Kings all had their
    toadies around them who told them what they wanted to hear.
    The King said, am I the greatest King in the world? Yeah,
    you’re the greatest King in the world, yeah. Well, this is
    what the I Ching does. It tells you what you want to hear
    and it’s not a true friend. One time I really zapped it.
    I asked it if it was the devil. And it said yes. And then
    I asked it if it spoke for God, and it said no. It said I
    am a complete liar. I mean that was the interpretation. In
    other words I set it up. I set it up. I asked two questions
    simultaneously and it said I speak with forked tongue, is
    what it said. And then it said, oops, I didn’t mean to say
    that. But it had already -

    In the end, helpers who desire further followup will post it.

    Note.

    [1] <https://www.yeschat.ai/gpts-ZxWyZYqh-Wisdom-of-the-I-Ching>

    [2] How can the wisdom of the I Ching start the I Ching monologue in my
    usenet followup?

    [3] What would wise I Ching say next after a start?

    [4] <https://philipdick.com/literary-criticism/interviews/hour-25-a-talk-with-philip-k-dick/>

    Danke,

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun May 4 02:07:17 2025
    Reply-To: blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com

    On 5/3/25 07:54, Don wrote:
    Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    <snip>

    Not directly to the point but Philip K. Dick is said to have
    used the I-Ching in plotting "The Man in the High Castle" 1962 Hugo
    Award winner, 1963 and considering his substance use and the 1960s
    he might well have done so.

    THE MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE is my favorite PKD due to meta-author
    Abendsen's allegorical abode, his high castle, in Cheyenne - capitol of
    my home state. After this intro, I-Ching intrinsically informs my
    following followup via "Wisdom of the I Ching - Ethical Guidance Bot"
    [1].

    I begin this monologue not with opinion, but with a
    question, as the I Ching itself teaches: that all
    things move between heaven and earth, and wisdom
    lies not in assertion, but in listening. So I ask-
    not you, not the Net, but the Change itself-what is
    the nature of this conversation? [2]

    Difficulty at the Beginning. Success through
    perseverance. Nothing should be undertaken lightly.
    It furthers one to appoint helpers. [3]

    A helper, in the form of an old PKD interview [4], is hereby appointed:

    Phil: I wrote The Man In The High Castle with the I Ching.

    Mike: You did?

    Phil: Yeah, and I’ve been sorry ever since because when
    it came time to resolve the novel at the end, the I
    Ching didn’t know what to do. It got me through most of
    the book. Everytime they cast a hexagram I actually cast
    four of them and got something and assigned it to them
    and they proceeded on the basis of the advice given.
    Like when Juliana Frink decides to tell Abendsen that
    he’s about to be offed by an agent. I threw the coins
    and she got warning make known the truth to the court
    of the King great danger and so on. Someone comes up
    behind him and hits him with a club. That’s what she got.
    And so she did go warn Abendsen and if she’d got another
    hexagram I would not have had her go speak to Abendsen.
    But then when it came time to close down the novel the I
    Ching had no more to say. And so there’s no real ending
    on it. I like to regard it as an open ending. It will
    segue into a sequel sometime.

    Mike: When you find somebody with the stomach to write one.

    Phil: Yeah, or if the I Ching ever gets off its ass.

    Mike: Do you go back from time to time and throw it to
    see if there is an ending to it or —

    Phil: No, I don’t use the I Ching anymore. I’ll tell ya,
    the I Ching told me more lies than anybody else I’ve ever
    known. The I Ching has a personality and it’s very devious
    and very treacherous. And it feeds ya just what you want
    to hear. And it’s really spaced out and burned out more
    people than I would care to name. Like a friend is somebody
    who doesn’t tell you what you want to hear. A friend tells
    you what’s true. A toady is the old word for somebody who
    told you what you wanted to hear. The Kings all had their
    toadies around them who told them what they wanted to hear.
    The King said, am I the greatest King in the world? Yeah,
    you’re the greatest King in the world, yeah. Well, this is
    what the I Ching does. It tells you what you want to hear
    and it’s not a true friend. One time I really zapped it.
    I asked it if it was the devil. And it said yes. And then
    I asked it if it spoke for God, and it said no. It said I
    am a complete liar. I mean that was the interpretation. In
    other words I set it up. I set it up. I asked two questions
    simultaneously and it said I speak with forked tongue, is
    what it said. And then it said, oops, I didn’t mean to say
    that. But it had already -

    In the end, helpers who desire further followup will post it.

    Note.

    [1] <https://www.yeschat.ai/gpts-ZxWyZYqh-Wisdom-of-the-I-Ching>

    [2] How can the wisdom of the I Ching start the I Ching monologue in my
    usenet followup?

    [3] What would wise I Ching say next after a start?

    [4] <https://philipdick.com/literary-criticism/interviews/hour-25-a-talk-with-philip-k-dick/>

    Danke,

    --
    Don.......My cat's )\._.,--....,'``. https://crcomp.net/reviews.php telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. veritas liberabit vos tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' Make 1984 fiction again.


    When I used the I-Ching in the 1900s and 1970s it told me what
    I already knew.

    bliss

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  • From Tony Nance@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed May 7 05:51:35 2025
    On 5/1/25 11:58 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    As usual, the links are Amazon affiliate ones which could in
    theory earn me money.

    ==


    Thanks for these - I find them helpful when figuring out what to try
    down the road.


    Hell to Pay: Urban Fantasy Action with Witches and Demons
    (Tear Down Heaven Book 3)
    by Rachel Aaron
    https://amzn.to/3EJfLJ2

    <snip detailed review>


    I enjoyed her first Heartstrikers/Detroit Free Zone book, and I'll be
    trying the second one some time this year. If things go well, I'll start
    this separate series some time.



    The Calamitous Bob
    by Alex Gilbert
    Book 1 of 9: The Calamitous Bob
    https://amzn.to/435noTp

    In Kazar: The Calamitous Bob book two
    by Alex Gilbert
    Book 2 of 9: The Calamitous Bob
    https://amzn.to/4dcftYd

    The Death Path: The Calamitous Bob Book 3
    by Alex Gilbert
    Book 3 of 9: The Calamitous Bob
    https://amzn.to/4cW8GBN

    <snip detailed review(s)


    I don't think I've read any litRPG, and I don't know if this will become
    my first one or not. But it's on the short list.

    Thanks again,
    Tony



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