This takes place in a corrupt near-future Florida after astronomers
have received a message from space. Saying anything else is going
to spoil some part of the plot. After all these years I suspect this
is probably my favorite alien first contact novel of all time.

This came out in 2000 and have just not got around to it. No wonder
I never get to nominate anything for Hugos.
--scott
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 08:19:14 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com (Scott
Dorsey) wrote:

This takes place in a corrupt near-future Florida after astronomers=20
have received a message from space. Saying anything else is going
to spoil some part of the plot. After all these years I suspect this
is probably my favorite alien first contact novel of all time.

This came out in 2000 and have just not got around to it. No wonder=20
I never get to nominate anything for Hugos.

One of the many books from my grandfather's estate on Revelation
asserts that Space Aliens and Flying Saucers were and will be
involved.

When I say that wing-nuts exist everywhere, I mean /everywhere/.
--=20
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 08:19:14 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com (Scott
Dorsey) wrote:

This takes place in a corrupt near-future Florida after astronomers=20
have received a message from space. Saying anything else is going
to spoil some part of the plot. After all these years I suspect this
is probably my favorite alien first contact novel of all time.

This came out in 2000 and have just not got around to it. No wonder=20
I never get to nominate anything for Hugos.

One of the many books from my grandfather's estate on Revelation
asserts that Space Aliens and Flying Saucers were and will be
involved.

You can speak to Guy Consolmagno about this. He has some very interesting
and well-reasoned takes on SETI from a Christian perspective.

If we are all called into judgement, surely it should be expected that
whatever aliens may exist will be called in as well.
--scott
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 08:29:13 -0700, Paul S Person wrote:

On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 08:19:14 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com (Scott
Dorsey) wrote:

This takes place in a corrupt near-future Florida after astronomers have >>received a message from space. Saying anything else is going to spoil
some part of the plot. After all these years I suspect this is probably
my favorite alien first contact novel of all time.

This came out in 2000 and have just not got around to it. No wonder I >>never get to nominate anything for Hugos.

One of the many books from my grandfather's estate on Revelation asserts
that Space Aliens and Flying Saucers were and will be involved.

When I say that wing-nuts exist everywhere, I mean /everywhere/.

In the 1950s both Billy Graham and Carl Jung weighed in on the
significance of UFOs.

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On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 12:22:50 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com (Scott
Dorsey) wrote:

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 08:19:14 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com (Scott
Dorsey) wrote:

This takes place in a corrupt near-future Florida after =

astronomers=3D20

have received a message from space. Saying anything else is going
to spoil some part of the plot. After all these years I suspect this
is probably my favorite alien first contact novel of all time.

This came out in 2000 and have just not got around to it. No =

wonder=3D20

I never get to nominate anything for Hugos.

One of the many books from my grandfather's estate on Revelation
asserts that Space Aliens and Flying Saucers were and will be
involved.

You can speak to Guy Consolmagno about this. He has some very =

interesting

and well-reasoned takes on SETI from a Christian perspective.

If we are all called into judgement, surely it should be expected that >whatever aliens may exist will be called in as well.

Not to the author I am thinking of.

Per this guy, had Jesus actually summoned an army of angels to defend
him, they would have been -- Space Aliens.

I should note that CS Lewis' Space Trilogy also has Sin afflicting our
planet. So the idea is not completely unknown elsewhere. Of course,
Lewis was writing fiction, not Biblical commentary.

The book itself is interesting -- it includes a full-color picture of
a "flying saucer". The content of the picture isn't the point;
full-color pictures in books normally produced on a slim budget is.

Myself, I would agree with you.=20
--=20
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Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

Per this guy, had Jesus actually summoned an army of angels to defend
him, they would have been -- Space Aliens.

Goddamn alien subcontractors. They just want to undercut everyone.
--scott

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On 3/23/25 8:19 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

This takes place in a corrupt near-future Florida after astronomers
have received a message from space. Saying anything else is going
to spoil some part of the plot. After all these years I suspect this
is probably my favorite alien first contact novel of all time.

This came out in 2000 and have just not got around to it. No wonder
I never get to nominate anything for Hugos.
--scott

Thanks for this - I'd never heard of it before, and it sounds interesting.

Tony

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On 3/23/2025 7:19 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

This takes place in a corrupt near-future Florida after astronomers
have received a message from space. Saying anything else is going
to spoil some part of the plot. After all these years I suspect this
is probably my favorite alien first contact novel of all time.

This came out in 2000 and have just not got around to it. No wonder
I never get to nominate anything for Hugos.
--scott

My favorite first contact novel is "Footfall" by Niven and Pournelle.

My second favorite first contact novel is "Live Free or Die" by John Ringo.

My third favorite first contact novel is "Enterprise Stardust" by K. H.
Scheer and Walter Ernsting.

I've got several more.

Lynn


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On 3/29/2025 12:38 AM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 3/23/2025 7:19 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

This takes place in a corrupt near-future Florida after astronomers
have received a message from space.ÿ Saying anything else is going
to spoil some part of the plot.ÿ After all these years I suspect this
is probably my favorite alien first contact novel of all time.

This came out in 2000 and have just not got around to it.ÿ No wonder
I never get to nominate anything for Hugos.
--scott

My favorite first contact novel is "Footfall" by Niven and Pournelle.

My second favorite first contact novel is "Live Free or Die" by John Ringo.

My third favorite first contact novel is "Enterprise Stardust" by K. H. Scheer and Walter Ernsting.

I've got several more.

Lynn

You know, "Mutineer's Moon" by David Weber could be viewed as a first
contact novel. So, my favorite first contact novel is "Mutineer's Moon"
by David Weber.

The real question is, who is the first contact with in "Mutineer's Moon"
by David Weber ?

Lynn


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In article <vs81gk$jaci$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 3/29/2025 12:38 AM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 3/23/2025 7:19 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

This takes place in a corrupt near-future Florida after astronomers
have received a message from space.  Saying anything else is going
to spoil some part of the plot.  After all these years I suspect this
is probably my favorite alien first contact novel of all time.

This came out in 2000 and have just not got around to it.  No wonder
I never get to nominate anything for Hugos.
--scott

My favorite first contact novel is "Footfall" by Niven and Pournelle.

My second favorite first contact novel is "Live Free or Die" by John Ringo.

My third favorite first contact novel is "Enterprise Stardust" by K. H. Scheer and Walter Ernsting.

I've got several more.

Lynn

You know, "Mutineer's Moon" by David Weber could be viewed as a first contact novel. So, my favorite first contact novel is "Mutineer's Moon"
by David Weber.

The real question is, who is the first contact with in "Mutineer's Moon"
by David Weber ?

Who other than Dahak?

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"We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. —-----------------------------------------------------
Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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On 3/29/2025 12:02 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:

In article <vs81gk$jaci$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 3/29/2025 12:38 AM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 3/23/2025 7:19 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

This takes place in a corrupt near-future Florida after astronomers
have received a message from space.ÿ Saying anything else is going
to spoil some part of the plot.ÿ After all these years I suspect this
is probably my favorite alien first contact novel of all time.

This came out in 2000 and have just not got around to it.ÿ No wonder
I never get to nominate anything for Hugos.
--scott

My favorite first contact novel is "Footfall" by Niven and Pournelle.

My second favorite first contact novel is "Live Free or Die" by John Ringo. >>>
My third favorite first contact novel is "Enterprise Stardust" by K. H.
Scheer and Walter Ernsting.

I've got several more.

Lynn

You know, "Mutineer's Moon" by David Weber could be viewed as a first
contact novel. So, my favorite first contact novel is "Mutineer's Moon"
by David Weber.

The real question is, who is the first contact with in "Mutineer's Moon"
by David Weber ?

Who other than Dahak?

But, the Homo Sapiens on Earth are space aliens themselves, descendants
of Dahak's crew. The Neanderthals on Earth did not survive the first
contact with Dahak's crew, other than some assimilation.

Lynn


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