So picture yourself in a closely parallel universe:
You enjoy SFF, and want to find things you like, and
you know there are zillions of works out there, but it's
hard to sift through it all.
For many years you've been very successfully using
an old but useful tool called an Oozenet newsgroup
as your primary way to sniff out new (to you) stuff
to try. Part of Oozenet's value has been your familiarity
with those who participate in the newsgroup.
But as your Oozenet newsgroup waxes and wanes, and
you find yourself wanting to augment your reliable
sifting with 1-2 other sources.
Where do you go to help you find new things to read?
- Tony
So picture yourself in a closely parallel universe:
You enjoy SFF, and want to find things you like, and
you know there are zillions of works out there, but it's
hard to sift through it all.
For many years you've been very successfully using
an old but useful tool called an Oozenet newsgroup
as your primary way to sniff out new (to you) stuff
to try. Part of Oozenet's value has been your familiarity
with those who participate in the newsgroup.
But as your Oozenet newsgroup waxes and wanes, and
you find yourself wanting to augment your reliable
sifting with 1-2 other sources.
Where do you go to help you find new things to read?
- Tony
But as your Oozenet newsgroup waxes and wanes, and
you find yourself wanting to augment your reliable
sifting with 1-2 other sources.
Where do you go to help you find new things to read?
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024, Tony Nance wrote:
So picture yourself in a closely parallel universe:
You enjoy SFF, and want to find things you like, and
you know there are zillions of works out there, but it's
hard to sift through it all.
For many years you've been very successfully using
an old but useful tool called an Oozenet newsgroup
as your primary way to sniff out new (to you) stuff
to try. Part of Oozenet's value has been your familiarity
with those who participate in the newsgroup.
But as your Oozenet newsgroup waxes and wanes, and
you find yourself wanting to augment your reliable
sifting with 1-2 other sources.
Where do you go to help you find new things to read?
- Tony
From time to time I glance at the Libertarian Futurist Society
(lfs.org). I also look through reviews of books I like, and sometimes someone mentioned similar books. I might do a crude ddg.gg search, or
look through mastodon.
In article <adf6d09d-158f-4208-a1e8-c91775b13188@example.net>,
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024, Tony Nance wrote:
So picture yourself in a closely parallel universe:
You enjoy SFF, and want to find things you like, and
you know there are zillions of works out there, but it's
hard to sift through it all.
For many years you've been very successfully using
an old but useful tool called an Oozenet newsgroup
as your primary way to sniff out new (to you) stuff
to try. Part of Oozenet's value has been your familiarity
with those who participate in the newsgroup.
But as your Oozenet newsgroup waxes and wanes, and
you find yourself wanting to augment your reliable
sifting with 1-2 other sources.
Where do you go to help you find new things to read?
- Tony
From time to time I glance at the Libertarian Futurist Society (lfs.org).
I also look through reviews of books I like, and sometimes someone
mentioned similar books. I might do a crude ddg.gg search, or look through >> mastodon.
Often nowadays an author will ask you to subscribe to his/her mailing
list and will often pitch favorite books by other authors. I've
gotten a number of decent reads from such recommendations. Of
course you have to factor in that sometimes it's just going to be
a shout out for a buddy. I find that in general the authors I've
subscribed to are pretty good about not spamming all over the place,
but I'm sure there are those who do.
And of course soon, "Write me a book I will like" will be a valid AI prompt...
On 11/11/2024 10:00 AM, Tony Nance wrote:
So picture yourself in a closely parallel universe:
You enjoy SFF, and want to find things you like, and
you know there are zillions of works out there, but it's
hard to sift through it all.
For many years you've been very successfully using
an old but useful tool called an Oozenet newsgroup
as your primary way to sniff out new (to you) stuff
to try. Part of Oozenet's value has been your familiarity
with those who participate in the newsgroup.
But as your Oozenet newsgroup waxes and wanes, and
you find yourself wanting to augment your reliable
sifting with 1-2 other sources.
Where do you go to help you find new things to read?
- Tony
https://www.reddit.com/r/printSF/
Lynn
Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> wrote:
But as your Oozenet newsgroup waxes and wanes, and
you find yourself wanting to augment your reliable
sifting with 1-2 other sources.
Where do you go to help you find new things to read?
I read everything nominated for a Hugo or a Nebula, and everything
that I can published by NESFA Press.
--scott
On 11/11/24 6:16 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 11/11/2024 10:00 AM, Tony Nance wrote:
So picture yourself in a closely parallel universe:
You enjoy SFF, and want to find things you like, and
you know there are zillions of works out there, but it's
hard to sift through it all.
For many years you've been very successfully using
an old but useful tool called an Oozenet newsgroup
as your primary way to sniff out new (to you) stuff
to try. Part of Oozenet's value has been your familiarity
with those who participate in the newsgroup.
But as your Oozenet newsgroup waxes and wanes, and
you find yourself wanting to augment your reliable
sifting with 1-2 other sources.
Where do you go to help you find new things to read?
- Tony
https://www.reddit.com/r/printSF/
Lynn
Excellent - thanks!
In article <adf6d09d-158f-4208-a1e8-c91775b13188@example.net>,
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024, Tony Nance wrote:
So picture yourself in a closely parallel universe:
You enjoy SFF, and want to find things you like, and
you know there are zillions of works out there, but it's
hard to sift through it all.
For many years you've been very successfully using
an old but useful tool called an Oozenet newsgroup
as your primary way to sniff out new (to you) stuff
to try. Part of Oozenet's value has been your familiarity
with those who participate in the newsgroup.
But as your Oozenet newsgroup waxes and wanes, and
you find yourself wanting to augment your reliable
sifting with 1-2 other sources.
Where do you go to help you find new things to read?
- Tony
From time to time I glance at the Libertarian Futurist Society = (lfs.org).=20
I also look through reviews of books I like, and sometimes someone=20 >>mentioned similar books. I might do a crude ddg.gg search, or look = through=20
mastodon.
Often nowadays an author will ask you to subscribe to his/her mailing
list and will often pitch favorite books by other authors. I've
gotten a number of decent reads from such recommendations. Of
course you have to factor in that sometimes it's just going to be
a shout out for a buddy. I find that in general the authors I've
subscribed to are pretty good about not spamming all over the place,
but I'm sure there are those who do.
And of course soon, "Write me a book I will like" will be a valid AI = prompt...
On 11/13/2024 7:18 PM, Tony Nance wrote:
On 11/11/24 6:16 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 11/11/2024 10:00 AM, Tony Nance wrote:
[snip-snip]
Where do you go to help you find new things to read?
https://www.reddit.com/r/printSF/
Excellent - thanks!
There are about 10 or 20 SF (speculative fiction) groups on reddit BTW.
I have already gotten thrown out of one of them (wormfanfic).˙ Here is another one:
˙˙ https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/
On 11/13/2024 9:10 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 11/13/2024 7:18 PM, Tony Nance wrote:
On 11/11/24 6:16 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 11/11/2024 10:00 AM, Tony Nance wrote:
[snip-snip]
Where do you go to help you find new things to read?
https://www.reddit.com/r/printSF/
Excellent - thanks!
There are about 10 or 20 SF (speculative fiction) groups on reddit
BTW. I have already gotten thrown out of one of them (wormfanfic).
Here is another one:
˙˙˙ https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/
Both /r/printSF and /r/Fantasy are worth a look. /r/PrintSF is a moderate-volume low-drama subreddit with a decent number of
knowledgeable contributors who have different tastes. Some like Watts
and Egan, others like Le Guin, Banks, Butler, Pratchett, etc. In theory,
it covers all types of *published* speculative books/magazines, but most discussions are about science fiction.
/r/Fantasy is a high-volume subreddit. Like /r/PrintSF, it covers all
kinds of speculative fiction plus SF games, movies, etc. In reality, however, it's mostly about fantasy, especially books. Contributors vary greatly, from very new to the genre to experienced SF authors. Also, it
is more likely to contain threads like "A fantasy series that will make
me cry and obliterate me" and "Am I the only one crying with [author
name's] books?".
/r/WormFanfic is for discussions of fanfiction based on the work of John
C. "Wildbow" McCrae, especially his first Web serial _Worm_ (2011-2013,
1.67 million words). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worm_(web_serial) has
a plot outline, which includes massive spoilers. (Note that _Worm_
spoilers are a very big deal because the serial is one huge secret
history, which we learn about one layer at a time.)
Since _Worm_ is so long and covers so many things -- interesting superpowers, trauma, world-building, clever subplots which you don't
even recognize as such until the end of the serial, etc -- Worm-based fanfics tend to concentrate on a subset of the issues explored in the
_Worm_ canon. Some authors are interested in character trauma. Some are after "cool powers". Some like to write "fix fics". At this point more
than 15,000 Worm fics have been posted.
The result is that different types of fics tend to be published on
different Web sites with different reader expectations and different moderation rules. /r/WormFanfic covers all of them (with limits imposed
on discussions of NSFW fics), although their heterogeneity occasionally makes it a challenge.
On 11/13/2024 9:10 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 11/13/2024 7:18 PM, Tony Nance wrote:
On 11/11/24 6:16 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 11/11/2024 10:00 AM, Tony Nance wrote:
[snip-snip]
Where do you go to help you find new things to read?
https://www.reddit.com/r/printSF/
Excellent - thanks!
There are about 10 or 20 SF (speculative fiction) groups on reddit
BTW. I have already gotten thrown out of one of them (wormfanfic).
Here is another one:
˙˙˙ https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/
Both /r/printSF and /r/Fantasy are worth a look. /r/PrintSF is a moderate-volume low-drama subreddit with a decent number of
knowledgeable contributors who have different tastes. Some like Watts
and Egan, others like Le Guin, Banks, Butler, Pratchett, etc. In theory,
it covers all types of *published* speculative books/magazines, but most discussions are about science fiction.
/r/Fantasy is a high-volume subreddit. Like /r/PrintSF, it covers all
kinds of speculative fiction plus SF games, movies, etc. In reality, however, it's mostly about fantasy, especially books. Contributors vary greatly, from very new to the genre to experienced SF authors. Also, it
is more likely to contain threads like "A fantasy series that will make
me cry and obliterate me" and "Am I the only one crying with [author
name's] books?".
/r/WormFanfic is for discussions of fanfiction based on the work of John
C. "Wildbow" McCrae, especially his first Web serial _Worm_ (2011-2013,
1.67 million words). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worm_(web_serial) has
a plot outline, which includes massive spoilers. (Note that _Worm_
spoilers are a very big deal because the serial is one huge secret
history, which we learn about one layer at a time.)
Since _Worm_ is so long and covers so many things -- interesting superpowers, trauma, world-building, clever subplots which you don't
even recognize as such until the end of the serial, etc -- Worm-based fanfics tend to concentrate on a subset of the issues explored in the
_Worm_ canon. Some authors are interested in character trauma. Some are after "cool powers". Some like to write "fix fics". At this point more
than 15,000 Worm fics have been posted.
The result is that different types of fics tend to be published on
different Web sites with different reader expectations and different moderation rules. /r/WormFanfic covers all of them (with limits imposed
on discussions of NSFW fics), although their heterogeneity occasionally makes it a challenge.
On 11/17/24 6:54 PM, Ahasuerus wrote:
On 11/13/2024 9:10 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 11/13/2024 7:18 PM, Tony Nance wrote:
On 11/11/24 6:16 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 11/11/2024 10:00 AM, Tony Nance wrote:
[snip-snip]
Where do you go to help you find new things to read?
https://www.reddit.com/r/printSF/
Excellent - thanks!
There are about 10 or 20 SF (speculative fiction) groups on reddit
BTW. I have already gotten thrown out of one of them (wormfanfic).
Here is another one:
˙˙˙ https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/
Both /r/printSF and /r/Fantasy are worth a look. /r/PrintSF is a
moderate-volume low-drama subreddit with a decent number of
knowledgeable contributors who have different tastes. Some like Watts
and Egan, others like Le Guin, Banks, Butler, Pratchett, etc. In
theory, it covers all types of *published* speculative books/
magazines, but most discussions are about science fiction.
/r/Fantasy is a high-volume subreddit. Like /r/PrintSF, it covers all
kinds of speculative fiction plus SF games, movies, etc. In reality,
however, it's mostly about fantasy, especially books. Contributors
vary greatly, from very new to the genre to experienced SF authors.
Also, it is more likely to contain threads like "A fantasy series that
will make me cry and obliterate me" and "Am I the only one crying with
[author name's] books?".
Excellent - many thanks. Seems like both will be very helpful.
Also thanks for the info about Worm (below). I'm not big on fanfiction,
but I fully expect to give Worm itself a try some time.
Tony
/r/WormFanfic is for discussions of fanfiction based on the work of
John C. "Wildbow" McCrae, especially his first Web serial _Worm_
(2011-2013, 1.67 million words). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Worm_(web_serial) has a plot outline, which includes massive spoilers.
(Note that _Worm_ spoilers are a very big deal because the serial is
one huge secret history, which we learn about one layer at a time.)
Since _Worm_ is so long and covers so many things -- interesting
superpowers, trauma, world-building, clever subplots which you don't
even recognize as such until the end of the serial, etc -- Worm-based
fanfics tend to concentrate on a subset of the issues explored in the
_Worm_ canon. Some authors are interested in character trauma. Some
are after "cool powers". Some like to write "fix fics". At this point
more than 15,000 Worm fics have been posted.
The result is that different types of fics tend to be published on
different Web sites with different reader expectations and different
moderation rules. /r/WormFanfic covers all of them (with limits
imposed on discussions of NSFW fics), although their heterogeneity
occasionally makes it a challenge.
On 11/22/2024 2:51 PM, Tony Nance wrote:
On 11/17/24 6:54 PM, Ahasuerus wrote:
On 11/13/2024 9:10 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 11/13/2024 7:18 PM, Tony Nance wrote:
On 11/11/24 6:16 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 11/11/2024 10:00 AM, Tony Nance wrote:
[snip-snip]
Where do you go to help you find new things to read?
https://www.reddit.com/r/printSF/
Excellent - thanks!
There are about 10 or 20 SF (speculative fiction) groups on reddit
BTW. I have already gotten thrown out of one of them (wormfanfic).
Here is another one:
˙˙˙ https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/
Both /r/printSF and /r/Fantasy are worth a look. /r/PrintSF is a
moderate-volume low-drama subreddit with a decent number of
knowledgeable contributors who have different tastes. Some like Watts
and Egan, others like Le Guin, Banks, Butler, Pratchett, etc. In
theory, it covers all types of *published* speculative books/
magazines, but most discussions are about science fiction.
/r/Fantasy is a high-volume subreddit. Like /r/PrintSF, it covers all
kinds of speculative fiction plus SF games, movies, etc. In reality,
however, it's mostly about fantasy, especially books. Contributors
vary greatly, from very new to the genre to experienced SF authors.
Also, it is more likely to contain threads like "A fantasy series
that will make me cry and obliterate me" and "Am I the only one
crying with [author name's] books?".
Excellent - many thanks. Seems like both will be very helpful.
Also thanks for the info about Worm (below). I'm not big on
fanfiction, but I fully expect to give Worm itself a try some time.
Tony
/r/WormFanfic is for discussions of fanfiction based on the work of
John C. "Wildbow" McCrae, especially his first Web serial _Worm_
(2011-2013, 1.67 million words). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Worm_(web_serial) has a plot outline, which includes massive
spoilers. (Note that _Worm_ spoilers are a very big deal because the
serial is one huge secret history, which we learn about one layer at
a time.)
Since _Worm_ is so long and covers so many things -- interesting
superpowers, trauma, world-building, clever subplots which you don't
even recognize as such until the end of the serial, etc -- Worm-based
fanfics tend to concentrate on a subset of the issues explored in the
_Worm_ canon. Some authors are interested in character trauma. Some
are after "cool powers". Some like to write "fix fics". At this point
more than 15,000 Worm fics have been posted.
The result is that different types of fics tend to be published on
different Web sites with different reader expectations and different
moderation rules. /r/WormFanfic covers all of them (with limits
imposed on discussions of NSFW fics), although their heterogeneity
occasionally makes it a challenge.
I found Worm ( https://parahumans.wordpress.com/ ) to be too dark for me even though I did eventually finish it.˙ I actually got lost near the
end of Worm due to all of the threads crashing at the same time.
I vastly prefer Taylor Varga ( https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/taylor-varga-worm-luna-varga.32119/ ).˙ A serious look at "cool powers".
I am reading "Callsign: Owl" ( https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/callsign-owl.87596/#post-19481594 ) at the moment.˙ To say that it is crazy is an understatement.
Lynn
I found Worm ( https://parahumans.wordpress.com/ ) to be too dark for
me even though I did eventually finish it.˙ I actually got lost near
the end of Worm due to all of the threads crashing at the same time.
I vastly prefer Taylor Varga ( https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/
threads/taylor-varga-worm-luna-varga.32119/ ).˙ A serious look at
"cool powers".
I am reading "Callsign: Owl" ( https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/
threads/callsign-owl.87596/#post-19481594 ) at the moment.˙ To say
that it is crazy is an understatement.
Lynn
Excellent! More good info to chew on - thanks for all that.
- Tony
On 11/22/2024 3:21 PM, Tony Nance wrote:
...
I found Worm ( https://parahumans.wordpress.com/ ) to be too dark for
me even though I did eventually finish it.˙ I actually got lost near
the end of Worm due to all of the threads crashing at the same time.
I vastly prefer Taylor Varga ( https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/
threads/taylor-varga-worm-luna-varga.32119/ ).˙ A serious look at
"cool powers".
I am reading "Callsign: Owl" ( https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/
threads/callsign-owl.87596/#post-19481594 ) at the moment.˙ To say
that it is crazy is an understatement.
Lynn
Excellent! More good info to chew on - thanks for all that.
- Tony
Here is a list of everything by the "Taylor Varga" author:
https://wormstorysearch.com/?is_nsfw_eq=any&story_keywords=mp3&page=1&limit=20&sort=stories.rating&direction=desc&searching=true
Here is a list of the awesome "Memories of Iron" author (Taylor gets the memories of Tony Stark after the Celestial ate Earth Alpha (Awesome !)).
˙Sadly, he passed away in 2016 just as he finished the first arc of "Memories of Iron".
https://wormstorysearch.com/?is_nsfw_eq=any&story_keywords=becuz&page=1&limit=20&sort=stories.rating&direction=desc&searching=true
Anything with a rating over 500 is probably good enough for the price
(free !).
Also thanks for the info about Worm (below). I'm not big on fanfiction,
but I fully expect to give Worm itself a try some time.
The Worm fandom is somewhat unusual compared to other fandoms, perhaps because most canon characters vary from "deeply flawed" to "makes Dr.
Josef Mengele vomit" for reasons that become clear later on. It attracts both fanfic authors who want to make everything better (like the author
of _Taylor Varga_ mentioned earlier) and authors who want to write depressed, flawed, messed up, etc characters.
On 11/24/2024 10:19 AM, Ahasuerus wrote:
...
The Worm fandom is somewhat unusual compared to other fandoms, perhaps
because most canon characters vary from "deeply flawed" to "makes Dr.
Josef Mengele vomit" for reasons that become clear later on. It
attracts both fanfic authors who want to make everything better (like
the author of _Taylor Varga_ mentioned earlier) and authors who want
to write depressed, flawed, messed up, etc characters.
The author of "Taylor Varga" also wrote this story which is quite dark:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12405120/1/She-Summons-Sea-Things-by-the- Sea-Shore
From
https://wormstorysearch.com/? is_nsfw_eq=any&story_keywords=mp3&page=1&limit=20&sort=stories.rating&direction=desc&searching=true
They said the best revenge was living well. It was possible they werewrong, and the best revenge was *revenge*, but Taylor was willing to
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