https://youtu.be/0K34lo5Xll4?si=Z95qAdMSkMPcoE8g

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Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

https://youtu.be/0K34lo5Xll4?si=Z95qAdMSkMPcoE8g

I thought Rachel Ziegler was a real girl.

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On 2025-03-30 02:51:58 +0000, Zhou Wei said:

In article <vru30e$35nhs$5@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:

https://youtu.be/0K34lo5Xll4?si=Z95qAdMSkMPcoE8g

Someone at Disney should've told Peter Dinklage that the dwarves in
Snow White are not little people, they're mythological creatures that
have existed for hundreds of years. Furthermore, they don't live in a
cave, they work in a cave.

Please do not confuse the "Politically Correct" whiners with actual
facts. It just annoys them even more *if* they realise they were wrong.
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On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 22:51:58 -0400, Zhou Wei <zhou.wei@hzsteels.com>
wrote:

In article <vru30e$35nhs$5@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:

https://youtu.be/0K34lo5Xll4?si=3DZ95qAdMSkMPcoE8g

Someone at Disney should've told Peter Dinklage that the dwarves in=20
Snow White are not little people, they're mythological creatures that=20
have existed for hundreds of years. Furthermore, they don't live in a=20 >cave, they work in a cave.

I have no plans to see the recent atrocity, but the original 1937
classic has "Dwarfs" not "Dwarves".

"Dwarves" was used by JRR Tokien using "Elves" as a model. Perhaps
you are confusing his "Dwarves" with mythological "Dwarfs". Or perhaps
not. Apparently, this sort of thing became widespread in 2000. Perhaps
the news of PJ's films caused a lot of people to read JRRT.

Some humans are called "Dwarfs"; in this sense "Dwarfism" is a genetic condition. Whether this use violates PC I have no idea.=20

I don't think it is clear that the Disney Dwarfs are mythological
Dwarfs, although they may well be, since this is, after all, a fairy
tale. I have no doubt that the recent live-action version botches this
badly -- the only real purpose of doing a live-action version appears
to be trashing the original animated film .

Some lawn decorations are called "Dwarfs". And there appear to be
several species of plants and animals which have "Dwarf" in at least
their popular, if not their scientific, name.=20
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On 2025-03-30 15:33:43 +0000, Paul S Person said:

On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 22:51:58 -0400, Zhou Wei <zhou.wei@hzsteels.com>
wrote:

In article <vru30e$35nhs$5@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:

https://youtu.be/0K34lo5Xll4?si=Z95qAdMSkMPcoE8g

Someone at Disney should've told Peter Dinklage that the dwarves

Snow White are not little people, they're mythological creatures

that>have existed for hundreds of years. Furthermore, they don't live
in a>cave, they work in a cave.

I have no plans to see the recent atrocity, but the original 1937
classic has "Dwarfs" not "Dwarves".

"Dwarves" was used by JRR Tokien using "Elves" as a model.

There are similar arguments as to whether "elfs" or "elves" is
'correct'. These days "elves" is considered correct.

Perhaps you are confusing his "Dwarves" with mythological "Dwarfs". Or perhaps not. Apparently, this sort of thing became widespread in 2000. Perhaps the news of PJ's films caused a lot of people to read JRRT.

A lot of places claim JRR Tolkien 'invented' the word "dwarves", but
they are wrong. Tolkien's books were written the 1930s and 1940s, but
the word "dwarves" dates back to at least 1818, and probably used
earlier than that. Tolkien's books simply made that old version of the
word somewhat more generally known. <https://www.oed.com/dictionary/dwarf_n?tab=meaning_and_use#5867894>

Both "dwarves" and "dwarfs" are considered correct plurals in English, although "dwarfs" is more commonly used. Another simialr example is the
plural of "wharf", with both "wharves" and "wharfs" being considered
correct.

Using the examples of other words ending with an 'f', giving plurals of "elves", "shelves", "wolves", etc., the real 'correct' plurals should
be "dwarves" and "wharves".

Just one of the many many many inconsistencies in English (even without including problems caused by "American English").

Some humans are called "Dwarfs"; in this sense "Dwarfism" is a genetic condition. Whether this use violates PC I have no idea.
I don't think it is clear that the Disney Dwarfs are mythological
Dwarfs, although they may well be, since this is, after all, a fairy
tale. I have no doubt that the recent live-action version botches this
badly -- the only real purpose of doing a live-action version appears
to be trashing the original animated film .

Some lawn decorations are called "Dwarfs". And there appear to be
several species of plants and animals which have "Dwarf" in at least
their popular, if not their scientific, name.

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