solar penguin wrote:

The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:

Let us examine today the stabbing of Sicence Fiction.

Doctor Who

The Timeless Child element introduced by Chris Chibnall and
defended by Russell Theodore Davies is causing a decline and
an alienation in Doctor Who Fandom.

The solution is to Drop RTD and Bad Wolf and Peter McTighe
and get a showrunner who will retcon the Timeless Child
and repair the woke damage.

Star Trek

Looks like Eugene Roddenybury and co wants to bury ST
into an unrecognisable grave. Curent iterations and reboots
seem to deviate for the Shatner / Nimoy
established norms.

Star Wars

Kathleen Kennedy and J. J. Abrams fif a hatchet job.
I didn ot mind Raye but come one how woke can you get?

It would be much quicker and shorter to just type ?I am a
grumpy old git,? and you would still get the same result.

There's no way Dave Yadallee came up with a post containing
four paragraphs of coherent thought.

So it might not be his own work but at least he made an effort
to post something sensible...

It would also have been quicker and shorter to type, "we are
all old curmudgeons that can't handle modern changes to our
favourite TV shows." ;-)




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Paul S Person wrote:

On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 16:22:24 -0000 (UTC), solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:

Let us examine today the stabbing of Sicence Fiction.

Doctor Who

The Timeless Child element introduced by Chris Chibnall and
defended by Russell Theodore Davies is causing a decline and
an alienation in Doctor Who Fandom.

The solution is to Drop RTD and Bad Wolf and Peter McTighe
and get a showrunner who will retcon the Timeless Child
and repair the woke damage.

Star Trek

Looks like Eugene Roddenybury and co wants to bury ST
into an unrecognisable grave. Curent iterations and reboots
seem to deviate for the Shatner / Nimoy
established norms.

Star Wars

Kathleen Kennedy and J. J. Abrams fif a hatchet job.
I didn ot mind Raye but come one how woke can you get?

It would be much quicker and shorter to just type ?I am a
grumpy old git,? and you would still get the same result.

Or ?I am a grumpy old git who claims everything he doesn't
like to be 'woke', whether it is or not.,?

The positives are, like it or loathe it, in 2026 they are still
making new episodes as part of those franchises...

Or we'd all be creating online petitions and demanding they
bring them back!!!

Personally I think the 'modernisation' of these types of show
will rebound on the producers, writers and studio executives and
they will eventually go back to what made those shows worth
watching in the first place. The fact that we get new episodes
though means there's always the odd diamond in the dust that we
can enjoy... even if they are few and far between.

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solar penguin wrote:

Blueshirt showed disbelief:

There's no way Dave Yadallee came up with a post
containing four paragraphs of coherent thought.

So it might not be his own work but at least he made
an effort to post something sensible...

The spelling and grammar are pure Yads. I can believe
he did it himself, trying to recover face after going
too far in the other thread.

Maybe I've just got too cynical in my old age!

Well done Dave so <claps>... if he keeps posting sensible
stuff I might just take him out of my killfile.


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The Binky Doctor wrote:

In article <xn0pln2ct8x1zbn000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

solar penguin wrote:

Blueshirt showed disbelief:

There's no way Dave Yadallee came up with a post
containing four paragraphs of coherent thought.

So it might not be his own work but at least he made
an effort to post something sensible...

The spelling and grammar are pure Yads. I can believe
he did it himself, trying to recover face after going
too far in the other thread.

Maybe I've just got too cynical in my old age!

Well done Dave so <claps>... if he keeps posting sensible
stuff I might just take him out of my killfile.

All rihgt SP, more manifest declarations?

Poor Binky, plonked again. lol

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"Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> writes:

solar penguin wrote:

The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:

Let us examine today the stabbing of Sicence Fiction.

Doctor Who

The Timeless Child element introduced by Chris Chibnall and
defended by Russell Theodore Davies is causing a decline and
an alienation in Doctor Who Fandom.

The solution is to Drop RTD and Bad Wolf and Peter McTighe
and get a showrunner who will retcon the Timeless Child
and repair the woke damage.

Star Trek

Looks like Eugene Roddenybury and co wants to bury ST
into an unrecognisable grave. Curent iterations and reboots
seem to deviate for the Shatner / Nimoy
established norms.

Star Wars

Kathleen Kennedy and J. J. Abrams fif a hatchet job.
I didn ot mind Raye but come one how woke can you get?

It would be much quicker and shorter to just type ?I am a
grumpy old git,? and you would still get the same result.

There's no way Dave Yadallee came up with a post containing
four paragraphs of coherent thought.

So it might not be his own work but at least he made an effort
to post something sensible...

It would also have been quicker and shorter to type, "we are
all old curmudgeons that can't handle modern changes to our
favourite TV shows." ;-)

I wouldn't call the changes modern. True, the changes are in the 'modern
day' but the changes aren't modern in the sense of new or fresh. There
is nothing fresh about modern sci-fi.

The stories will never be timeless.
The characters will never be memorable.
These works will be forgotten within a handful of years or sooner.

There's a good reason why the classic shows are gaining in popularity
among today's youth: The stories were timeless, their dialog proper, and
the characters iconic.

I'm moody because they exclaim that the modern product is aimed at
a single demographic. The timeless classics were made for
everyone. Their target demographic lacks the attention span or intellect
for anything better. Meanwhile, they attack the rest of us for not
realizing the (air quotes) art.

They can keep it and I'll keep the legacy, timeless classics.

Daniel
sysop | air & wave bbs
finger | calcmandan@bbs.erb.pw

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Daniel wrote:

"Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> writes:

solar penguin wrote:

It would be much quicker and shorter to just type ?I am a
grumpy old git,? and you would still get the same result.

There's no way Dave Yadallee came up with a post containing
four paragraphs of coherent thought.

So it might not be his own work but at least he made an
effort to post something sensible...

It would also have been quicker and shorter to type, "we are
all old curmudgeons that can't handle modern changes to our
favourite TV shows." ;-)

I wouldn't call the changes modern. True, the changes are in
the 'modern day' but the changes aren't modern in the sense
of new or fresh. There is nothing fresh about modern sci-fi.

A lot of modern changes to the big sci-fi franchises have very
little to do with the sci-fi elements. They're usually about
whatever the message of the day is. The scripts are composed
around whatever cause the trendy writers want to virtue signal.

My opinion is, that's what soap operas are for. With sci-fi
shows I want a bit of escapism from the real world. Something
fantastical and enjoyable. Not a social commentary of the world
we live in today. I can go outside if I want that!

The stories will never be timeless.
The characters will never be memorable.
These works will be forgotten within a handful of years or
sooner.

Sooner. There's very few, if any, Doctor Who episodes of recent
years that I would sit down and watch over and over again like
I do the classic era of the show. For me, there's no charm about
the modern era of the show. Once watched, soon forgotten.

It's the same for Star Trek; I could watch my ST:TNG Blu-rays
again and again... they're classics. The Star Trek shows of
recent years (that I have seen) would be hard pushed to achieve
'entertaining' status, let alone classic!

There's a good reason why the classic shows are gaining in
popularity among today's youth: The stories were timeless,
their dialog proper, and the characters iconic.

Even my son (31) would rather watch old Doctor Who episodes from
the 1970's... yet the modern era of the show, i.e. post 2005,
was supposedly made 'for' his demographic. But he's got no
interest in it and actually stopped watching Doctor Who
completely two years ago. So something has gone wrong somewhere.

I'm moody because they exclaim that the modern product is
aimed at a single demographic. The timeless classics were made
for everyone. Their target demographic lacks the attention
span or intellect for anything better. Meanwhile, they attack
the rest of us for not realizing the (air quotes) art.

It's art Jim... just not as we know it.

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