• Re: Worst Star Trek Episode EVER?

    From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jul 18 18:30:47 2025
    thetruemelissa@gmail.com wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:

    TNG couldn?t keep qualified writers or story editors because of the
    working environment much of which was Patrick Stewart's bad behavior.
    About halfway through the series run having burned through everybody
    talented they had worked their way down to Braga.

    Hunh. What was he doing?

    Stewart was constantly demanding eps with Picard as a romantic action character.

    I remember around the first season, he had a tantrum because his cast-mates weren't "acting professional" enough and had toi tlak him out of his locked trailer.


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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jul 18 22:18:35 2025
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <1608275089.774410252.295664.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:

    TNG couldn?t keep qualified writers or story editors because of the working >> environment much of which was Patrick Stewart?s bad behavior. About
    halfway through the series run having burned through everybody talented
    they had worked their way down to Braga.

    Hunh. What was he doing?


    He was infamous for pulling childish crap, like if any visitor to the set,
    sat in the captains chair, which they all obviously would want to do he
    storm off the set in a hissy fit and not come back that day.

    As far as the writers went a couple of them talked about what a nightmare
    it was in an article in starlog and they said he would hand them script
    changes he wanted. But that’s not the chain of command. Actors don’t tell the writers to make changes. If they want them, they go to the producer or
    the story, editor or a showrunner. Can you imagine what a nightmare it
    would be if all the actors were constantly coming to the scriptwriter with changes? And it was bad enough they’d quit.

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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Jul 19 00:32:18 2025
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net delivered unto us this message:

    TNG couldn?t keep qualified writers or story editors because of the
    working environment much of which was Patrick Stewart?s bad behavior.
    About halfway through the series run having burned through everybody
    talented they had worked their way down to Braga.

    Hunh. What was he doing?

    He was infamous for pulling childish crap, like if any visitor to the set, >sat in the captains chair, which they all obviously would want to do he
    storm off the set in a hissy fit and not come back that day.

    I hadn't heard about that one before.

    As far as the writers went a couple of them talked about what a nightmare
    it was in an article in starlog and they said he would hand them script >changes he wanted. But that's not the chain of command. Actors don't tell
    the writers to make changes. If they want them, they go to the producer or >the story, editor or a showrunner. Can you imagine what a nightmare it
    would be if all the actors were constantly coming to the scriptwriter with >changes? And it was bad enough they'd quit.

    And his insistance of getting some romantic and action eps, hence whats-her- name on Risa and the Die Hard ripoff.



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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Jul 19 03:48:47 2025
    Verily, in article <105dlti$23hlj$5@dont-email.me>, did
    weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net delivered unto us this message:

    TNG couldn?t keep qualified writers or story editors because of the
    working environment much of which was Patrick Stewart?s bad behavior. >>> About halfway through the series run having burned through everybody
    talented they had worked their way down to Braga.

    Hunh. What was he doing?

    He was infamous for pulling childish crap, like if any visitor to the set, >sat in the captains chair, which they all obviously would want to do he >storm off the set in a hissy fit and not come back that day.

    I did a search on on-set tantrums from him, and I found one story from
    the first season which ends which everybody having a good laugh about it
    all. I knew immediately that it was a planted story to confuse the
    search results for things like "Patrick Stewart throws a fit." Since it
    was clearly planted, I figured there must have been a series of other
    tantrums to be concealed.

    The captain's chair, really? Part of the set? Was he going nuts and
    confusing himself with Picard? :D


    As far as the writers went a couple of them talked about what a
    nightmare
    it was in an article in starlog and they said he would hand them script >changes he wanted. But that's not the chain of command. Actors don't tell >the writers to make changes. If they want them, they go to the producer or >the story, editor or a showrunner. Can you imagine what a nightmare it >would be if all the actors were constantly coming to the scriptwriter with >changes? And it was bad enough they'd quit.

    And his insistance of getting some romantic and action eps, hence whats-her- name on Risa and the Die Hard ripoff.

    You know, I never understood why some people insisted Picard was sexy.


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  • From danny burstein@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Jul 19 04:09:40 2025
    In <MPG.42e428d6d6c83d5b98972e@news.eternal-september.org> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:

    [snip]

    You know, I never understood why some people insisted Picard was sexy.

    the Yul Brinner, Kojak, (some) Bruce Willis...

    there's a subset of people who consider baldness attractive.



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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Jul 19 06:01:19 2025
    danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
    In <MPG.42e428d6d6c83d5b98972e@news.eternal-september.org> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:

    [snip]

    You know, I never understood why some people insisted Picard was sexy.

    the Yul Brinner, Kojak, (some) Bruce Willis...


    Persis Khambatta

    there's a subset of people who consider baldness attractive.






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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Jul 19 06:12:21 2025
    Verily, in article <105e2l4$gdg$1@reader1.panix.com>, did
    dannyb@panix.com deliver unto us this message:

    In <MPG.42e428d6d6c83d5b98972e@news.eternal-september.org> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:

    [snip]

    You know, I never understood why some people insisted Picard was sexy.

    the Yul Brinner, Kojak, (some) Bruce Willis...

    there's a subset of people who consider baldness attractive.

    Yes, and they're fairly loud about it, but I still wonder why they
    picked him. He's not handsome. He just isn't. I don't want to get into cataloging his faults, but come on.

    I suspect some people call others "sexy" when it's really something else
    they admire, thinking that sexiness is the highest possible compliment.
    Just a pet theory I have.



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  • From Wouter Valentijn@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Jul 20 18:55:44 2025
    Op 18-7-2025 om 10:30 schreef Ubiquitous:
    liamreverse@valentijn.nu wrote:
    Op 15-7-2025 om 10:30 schreef Ubiquitous:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Really? What episodes of TNG would you say are worse than "Spock's
    Brain"?

    I guess there was that one where the bridge crew turned into children. >>>>> That was an eyeroller. I'd still call "Spock's Brain" worse, though.

    The aforementioned sub rosa.

    That one towards the end where data turns into a Mayan.

    AKA, The Brent Spiner One-Man Acting Extraviganza!

    That one Gates McMuffin directed where everybody on the Enterprise
    devolves into a different species.

    I hate magic DNA but I hate when they get the real stuff wrong. Geordi
    didn't "devolved" into a primate, Troi "devolved" into an arachnid, etc

    Troi was amphibious. Barclay was the spider.

    That's even worse in Barclay's case, because he's a human!

    Troi might be of space-French descent, however.



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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Jul 23 18:30:45 2025
    thetruemelissa@gmail.com wrote:
    weberm@polaris.net delivered unto us this message:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net delivered unto us this message:

    TNG couldn?t keep qualified writers or story editors because of the
    working environment much of which was Patrick Stewart?s bad behavior. >> >>> About halfway through the series run having burned through everybody
    talented they had worked their way down to Braga.

    Hunh. What was he doing?

    He was infamous for pulling childish crap, like if any visitor to the
    set, sat in the captains chair, which they all obviously would want to
    do he storm off the set in a hissy fit and not come back that day.

    I did a search on on-set tantrums from him, and I found one story from
    the first season which ends which everybody having a good laugh about it >all. I knew immediately that it was a planted story to confuse the
    search results for things like "Patrick Stewart throws a fit." Since it
    was clearly planted, I figured there must have been a series of other >tantrums to be concealed.

    The captain's chair, really? Part of the set? Was he going nuts and >confusing himself with Picard? :D


    As far as the writers went a couple of them talked about what a
    nightmare it was in an article in starlog and they said he would hand
    them script changes he wanted. But that's not the chain of command.
    Actors don't tell the writers to make changes. If they want them, they
    go to the producer or the story, editor or a showrunner. Can you imagine >> >what a nightmare it would be if all the actors were constantly coming to >> >the scriptwriter with changes? And it was bad enough they'd quit.

    And his insistance of getting some romantic and action eps, hence
    whats-her-name on Risa and the Die Hard ripoff.

    You know, I never understood why some people insisted Picard was sexy.

    Some people think Mr Clean is sexy.


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  • From Your Name@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jul 31 07:33:38 2025
    On 2025-07-30 00:29:46 +0000, <departamentodecobrancaregistrobr1686@ymbzd.institut451.org> said:
    In article <104lvu8$956v$7@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    Star Trek: The Original Series....why?? Join me as I boldly go where no one >> has gone before... to the depths af terrible Star Trek episode! In this
    video, I'll be exploring the worst of the worst, the cringe-worthy, the
    illogical, and the just plain bad. Was it a poorly written script, cringe- >> worthy acting, I'll be diving into the episode that makes you wonder
    how they ever made it to air. So, grab your phaser and get ready to
    blast off into the world of bad Star Trek.

    https://youtu.be/NXSQV1MY5xI?si=DKXkRTenoFW396sG

    Just who does IBDM let vote? This is a middling one. For me, it's a tossup >> between The Empath and the Halloween ep.

    Oh man, the space hippies were far worse! Spock jamming on some goofy
    Vulcan guitar gizmo? "Like live long & prosper, space dude!" Ouch!

    Plus the ridiculous 'save the whales' movie. :-\


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  • From Daniel@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 13 05:06:31 2025
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> writes:

    Star Trek: The Original Series....why?? Join me as I boldly go where no one has gone before... to the depths af terrible Star Trek episode! In this video, I'll be exploring the worst of the worst, the cringe-worthy, the illogical, and the just plain bad. Was it a poorly written script, cringe- worthy acting, I'll be diving into the episode that makes you wonder how they
    ever made it to air. So, grab your phaser and get ready to blast off into the
    world of bad Star Trek.

    https://youtu.be/NXSQV1MY5xI?si=DKXkRTenoFW396sG

    Just who does IBDM let vote? This is a middling one. For me, it's a tossup between The Empath and the Halloween ep.

    Catching up on all my favorite NG's and replying. This one is a heavy
    question. I will spend some leisure time over the next few days going
    over the episodes list, watching the ones I suspect qualify, and will
    reply. I am not reading the other replies to prevent the influence of
    other opinions.

    D

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 13 10:18:18 2025
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> writes:

    Star Trek: The Original Series....why?? Join me as I boldly go where no one >> has gone before... to the depths af terrible Star Trek episode! In this
    video, I'll be exploring the worst of the worst, the cringe-worthy, the
    illogical, and the just plain bad. Was it a poorly written script, cringe- >> worthy acting, I'll be diving into the episode that makes you wonder how they
    ever made it to air. So, grab your phaser and get ready to blast off into the
    world of bad Star Trek.

    https://youtu.be/NXSQV1MY5xI?si=DKXkRTenoFW396sG

    Just who does IBDM let vote? This is a middling one. For me, it's a tossup >> between The Empath and the Halloween ep.

    Catching up on all my favorite NG's and replying. This one is a heavy question. I will spend some leisure time over the next few days going
    over the episodes list, watching the ones I suspect qualify, and will
    reply. I am not reading the other replies to prevent the influence of
    other opinions.

    D


    5.2? That’s not even a bad score. I wouldn’t give it more than a 2.5, and only that high to make room for several that are worse.

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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 13 18:30:45 2025
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> writes:

    Star Trek: The Original Series....why?? Join me as I boldly go where no >>> one has gone before... to the depths af terrible Star Trek episode! In
    this video, I'll be exploring the worst of the worst, the cringe-worthy, >>> the illogical, and the just plain bad. Was it a poorly written script, >>> cringe-worthy acting, I'll be diving into the episode that makes you
    wonder how they ever made it to air. So, grab your phaser and get ready >>> to blast off into the world of bad Star Trek.

    https://youtu.be/NXSQV1MY5xI?si=DKXkRTenoFW396sG

    Just who does IBDM let vote? This is a middling one. For me, it's a
    tossup between The Empath and the Halloween ep.

    Catching up on all my favorite NG's and replying. This one is a heavy
    question. I will spend some leisure time over the next few days going
    over the episodes list, watching the ones I suspect qualify, and will
    reply. I am not reading the other replies to prevent the influence of
    other opinions.

    5.2? That's not even a bad score. I wouldn't give it more than a 2.5,
    and only that high to make room for several that are worse.

    I noticed a lot of the lowest scores are around 5 and 6. I was expecting
    most to be around 2 or 3.



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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Aug 14 00:04:26 2025
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> writes:

    Star Trek: The Original Series....why?? Join me as I boldly go where no >>>> one has gone before... to the depths af terrible Star Trek episode! In >>>> this video, I'll be exploring the worst of the worst, the cringe-worthy, >>>> the illogical, and the just plain bad. Was it a poorly written script, >>>> cringe-worthy acting, I'll be diving into the episode that makes you
    wonder how they ever made it to air. So, grab your phaser and get ready >>>> to blast off into the world of bad Star Trek.

    https://youtu.be/NXSQV1MY5xI?si=DKXkRTenoFW396sG

    Just who does IBDM let vote? This is a middling one. For me, it's a
    tossup between The Empath and the Halloween ep.

    Catching up on all my favorite NG's and replying. This one is a heavy
    question. I will spend some leisure time over the next few days going
    over the episodes list, watching the ones I suspect qualify, and will
    reply. I am not reading the other replies to prevent the influence of
    other opinions.

    5.2? That's not even a bad score. I wouldn't give it more than a 2.5,
    and only that high to make room for several that are worse.

    I noticed a lot of the lowest scores are around 5 and 6. I was expecting
    most to be around 2 or 3.

    Yep. If your worst episode scores in the top 50% you must be doing
    something right.



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  • From Daniel@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Aug 17 12:11:34 2025
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> writes:

    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> writes:

    Star Trek: The Original Series....why?? Join me as I boldly go where no one >> has gone before... to the depths af terrible Star Trek episode! In this
    video, I'll be exploring the worst of the worst, the cringe-worthy, the
    illogical, and the just plain bad. Was it a poorly written script, cringe- >> worthy acting, I'll be diving into the episode that makes you wonder how they
    ever made it to air. So, grab your phaser and get ready to blast off into the
    world of bad Star Trek.

    https://youtu.be/NXSQV1MY5xI?si=DKXkRTenoFW396sG

    Just who does IBDM let vote? This is a middling one. For me, it's a tossup >> between The Empath and the Halloween ep.

    Catching up on all my favorite NG's and replying. This one is a heavy question. I will spend some leisure time over the next few days going
    over the episodes list, watching the ones I suspect qualify, and will
    reply. I am not reading the other replies to prevent the influence of
    other opinions.

    D

    Shore Leave

    I loved this episode as a child. A local broadcast station has star trek
    every night, and it was playing one night some months ago. It started
    okay, but then the it turned dumb really fast. The acting wasn't too
    bad, tho. They did what they could for a budget saving episode.

    It is also obvious that many of the writers of that era served during
    the big war. Many stories are influenced by it.

    D

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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Aug 17 17:24:17 2025
    In article <87o6ser92h.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com wrote:

    Shore Leave

    I loved this episode as a child. A local broadcast station has star trek >every night, and it was playing one night some months ago. It started
    okay, but then the it turned dumb really fast. The acting wasn't too
    bad, tho. They did what they could for a budget saving episode.

    It is also obvious that many of the writers of that era served during
    the big war. Many stories are influenced by it.

    I don't think the "War on Drugs" was a thing yet.

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  • From Wouter Valentijn@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Aug 17 18:21:42 2025
    Op 17-8-2025 om 04:11 schreef Daniel:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> writes:

    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> writes:

    Star Trek: The Original Series....why?? Join me as I boldly go where no one >>> has gone before... to the depths af terrible Star Trek episode! In this
    video, I'll be exploring the worst of the worst, the cringe-worthy, the
    illogical, and the just plain bad. Was it a poorly written script, cringe- >>> worthy acting, I'll be diving into the episode that makes you wonder how they
    ever made it to air. So, grab your phaser and get ready to blast off into the
    world of bad Star Trek.

    https://youtu.be/NXSQV1MY5xI?si=DKXkRTenoFW396sG

    Just who does IBDM let vote? This is a middling one. For me, it's a tossup >>> between The Empath and the Halloween ep.

    Catching up on all my favorite NG's and replying. This one is a heavy
    question. I will spend some leisure time over the next few days going
    over the episodes list, watching the ones I suspect qualify, and will
    reply. I am not reading the other replies to prevent the influence of
    other opinions.

    D

    Shore Leave

    I loved this episode as a child. A local broadcast station has star trek every night, and it was playing one night some months ago. It started
    okay, but then the it turned dumb really fast. The acting wasn't too
    bad, tho. They did what they could for a budget saving episode.

    It is also obvious that many of the writers of that era served during
    the big war. Many stories are influenced by it.





    I always thought 'the big war' referred to the First World War.


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