• Re: AI/LLM reviews of STNG - The Icarus Factor

    From Melissa Hollingsworth@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jul 10 06:13:33 2025
    Verily, in article <104lqhf$17ha$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:

    To Commander Riker's surprise,
    he is offered a promotion: command of the Starship Ares,
    tasked with exploring a newly discovered intelligent
    life form in the Vega-Omicron sector.


    How often was Riker offered a command? I'm pretty sure it was at least
    three times.

    One wonders how he reached the rank of commander with so little desire
    to advance.

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jul 10 06:25:28 2025
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <104lqhf$17ha$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:

    To Commander Riker's surprise,
    he is offered a promotion: command of the Starship Ares,
    tasked with exploring a newly discovered intelligent
    life form in the Vega-Omicron sector.


    How often was Riker offered a command? I'm pretty sure it was at least
    three times.

    One wonders how he reached the rank of commander with so little desire
    to advance.


    Same way, Tom Paris did. Family connections.

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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jul 10 06:29:20 2025
    thetruemelissa@gmail.com wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca did deliver unto us this message:

    To Commander Riker's surprise,
    he is offered a promotion: command of the Starship Ares,
    tasked with exploring a newly discovered intelligent
    life form in the Vega-Omicron sector.

    How often was Riker offered a command? I'm pretty sure it was at least
    three times.

    One wonders how he reached the rank of commander with so little desire
    to advance.

    I remember someone pointed it out to him at least once.


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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jul 10 07:14:31 2025
    Verily, in article <104mjf0$dl78$3@dont-email.me>, did
    weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

    One wonders how he reached the rank of commander with so little desire
    to advance.

    I remember someone pointed it out to him at least once.

    LOL, I don't remember that. What did he say?


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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jul 10 18:30:45 2025
    thetruemelissa@gmail.com wrote:
    weberm@polaris.net did deliver unto us this message:

    One wonders how he reached the rank of commander with so little desire
    to advance.

    I remember someone pointed it out to him at least once.

    LOL, I don't remember that. What did he say?

    I think one was in Best of Both Worlds, after Picard got Borgified, when
    Riker was hestitant about replacing Picard and a female captain (Shelly?) called him out on it.

    I think there was another time he met someone from a previous ship he served on, possibly the Pegasis.


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  • From The Doctor@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Jul 9 23:23:59 2025
    Ai/LLM reviews of Star Trek The Next Generation - The Icarus Factor

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    "Star Trek: The Next Generation - The Icarus Factor"
    is an episode that delves deeply into Commander Riker's
    personal life, exploring his strained relationship with
    his estranged father, while also offering a significant
    look into Klingon culture through Worf's "Age of Ascension"
    ritual.

    Plot Overview:The USS Enterprise-D is en route to Starbase
    Montgomery for routine engineering consultations
    when Captain Picard receives a series of personnel
    transfer directives. To Commander Riker's surprise,
    he is offered a promotion: command of the Starship Ares,
    tasked with exploring a newly discovered intelligent
    life form in the Vega-Omicron sector. Riker's excitement
    is quickly tempered when he learns that the civilian
    advisor assigned to his mission is none other than
    his estranged father, Kyle Riker, a renowned Starfleet
    strategist and diplomat. Their reunion is fraught with
    tension, marked by years of unresolved conflict
    and a deeply competitive dynamic.

    Meanwhile, a secondary plot unfolds as Wesley Crusher
    notices Lieutenant Worf's unusually irritable
    and withdrawn behaviour. With the help of Data
    and La Forge, Wesley discovers that Worf is observing
    the anniversary of his "Age of Ascension," a crucial
    Klingon ritual marking his passage into adulthood.
    Recognising Worf's quiet struggle with this solitary
    observance, the trio secretly organizes a holographic
    Klingon ceremony on the holodeck to celebrate with him,
    providing a rare moment of cultural understanding
    and camaraderie. The main narrative sees Riker
    grappling not only with the momentous decision
    about accepting his first command but also with
    his complicated, emotionally charged relationship
    with his father, culminating in a physically
    demanding anbo-jyutsu (a futuristic martial art)
    match that serves as a cathartic, if aggressive,
    way for them to clear the air and begin to reconcile.

    Strengths:

    Riker's Character Development: This episode is
    a significant deep dive into Commander Riker's
    backstory and his complex relationship with
    his father. It reveals his vulnerabilities,
    ambitions, and the roots of his personality.
    Jonathan Frakes delivers a strong performance.

    Worf's Age of Ascension: The subplot focusing
    on Worf's Klingon ritual is a major highlight.
    It provides valuable insight into Klingon
    culture and Worf's personal journey, further
    solidifying his character's depth. The crew's
    efforts to celebrate with him are genuinely
    touching.

    Themes of Father-Son Relationships: The strained
    dynamic between Will and Kyle Riker is relatable
    and well-explored, touching on themes of
    expectation, competition, and the difficulty
    of reconciliation.

    Anbo-jyutsu: The introduction of this futuristic
    martial art provides a visually engaging
    and symbolically important scene for
    the Rikers' conflict and eventual catharsis.

    Exploration of Command: Riker's contemplation
    of his first command and the responsibilities
    it entails adds weight to his decision.

    Weaknesses:

    Kyle Riker's Character: While essential to the
    plot, Kyle Riker can sometimes come across
    as overly abrasive and one-dimensional in his
    antagonism towards his son, making their dynamic
    occasionally less nuanced than it could be.

    Pacing: The episode's pacing, particularly
    in the early stages of the Riker family drama,
    can feel a bit slow before the anbo-jyutsu match.

    Dated Visuals: As an early TNG episode,
    the visual effects for the anbo-jyutsu arena
    and some other elements show their age.

    Convenient Resolution: The anbo-jyutsu match,
    while dramatic, provides a somewhat quick
    and physically aggressive resolution
    to decades of emotional baggage, which might
    feel a bit too simplistic for such a deep-seated
    conflict.

    Overall Impression:"The Icarus Factor" is
    a strong and important early episode of
    Star Trek: The Next Generation. It excels
    in its character development for Commander
    Riker and provides valuable, emotional insight
    into Klingon culture through Worf's subplot.

    While the resolution to the Riker family drama
    is a bit quick, the episode's thematic depth
    and strong performances make it a memorable
    and significant entry in the series, showcasing
    its ability to tell compelling personal stories
    alongside its sci-fi adventures.

    Rating: 7.5/10

    ChatGPt

    Absolutely — let’s break down
    **“Star Trek: The Next Generation” — *The Icarus Factor***
    using the transcript from [chakoteya.net] (http://www.chakoteya.net/NextGen/140.htm).

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    **Episode:** *The Icarus Factor*
    **Season:** 2, Episode 14
    **Original Air Date:** April 24, 1989

    - ---

    ## 📋 **Summary (based on the transcript)**

    The Enterprise diverts to Starbase Montgomery,
    where Commander Riker is offered a promotion
    to captain the USS *Ares*.
    The catch: his father, Kyle Riker — a famous
    strategist and commanding presence — arrives
    to brief him. The reunion dredges up years
    of unresolved father-son conflict. Meanwhile,
    Worf is behaving strangely — irritable
    and aggressive. The crew learns it’s
    because Worf is experiencing
    the Klingon *Age of Ascension* ritual,
    which he can’t perform alone on
    a Federation ship. His friends organise
    a holodeck ceremony so he can complete it properly.

    The main plot is Riker confronting
    his father’s manipulative, competitive ways.
    The two eventually settle their
    differences — sort of — through
    a full-on *anbo-jyutsu* sparring match.
    In the end, Riker declines the promotion,
    reaffirming his place on the Enterprise.

    - ---

    ## ✅ **Strengths**

    **➊ A rare family story:** TNG doesn’t
    always do personal, messy family drama
    well, but this episode tries. Seeing
    Riker’s background gives him
    depth — especially since he’s usually
    the cool, confident officer.

    **➋ Good Worf subplot:** The B-plot
    with Worf’s Klingon ritual is a highlight.
    It shows how his human crewmates try
    to respect his heritage — and it’s fun seeing
    Pulaski, Data, and Geordi helping him
    in their own awkward ways.

    **➌ Character-building:** The episode
    touches on big themes: father-son pride,
    disappointment, legacy, and how family
    baggage shapes people. There’s an emotional
    honesty here you don’t always get
    in TNG’s more plot-heavy shows.

    - ---

    ## ❌ **Weaknesses**

    **➊ The anbo-jyutsu scenes:** Infamous
    for a reason — the “martial art” looks
    awkward and goofy, more like two guys
    in padded gear whacking each other
    with sticks. It undermines what
    should be an intense father-son showdown.

    **➋ Kyle Riker isn’t that
    compelling:** He’s written as a bit
    of a pompous jerk without enough layers.
    The resolution feels rushed — a lifetime
    of resentment is “fixed”
    in one sparring match.

    **➌ Pacing:** There’s not much
    sci-fi or adventure here — it’s all
    character tension. For viewers wanting
    ship battles or time paradoxes,
    this can feel flat.

    ** Troi underused:** The story
    touches on how Troi feels about
    possibly losing Riker but never
    digs deep. Her scenes just remind
    you there’s more they *could* explore
    but didn’t.

    - ---

    ## 🎭 **Standout moments**

    * Worf roaring in the holodeck
    while his friends stand respectfully
    by — genuinely touching and a great
    bit of Klingon lore.

    * Riker finally telling off his father
    for his manipulative parenting style.

    * Picard’s quiet pride in Riker
    when he decides to stay.

    - ---

    ## 🗨️ **Best line**

    * **Riker (to Picard):** *“The Enterprise is home.”*

    Simple but telling — it shows how much this
    crew is a surrogate family.

    - ---

    ## ⭐ **Rating: 6/10**

    **Verdict:** *The Icarus Factor* is decent
    character drama with clunky staging.
    The Riker family tension adds depth to him,
    and the Worf subplot is surprisingly heartwarming.
    But the father-son stuff is undercut by corny
    fight choreography and an overly tidy wrap-up.
    It’s mid-tier TNG — worth watching if you
    like character backstory,
    skippable if you’re in it for high-stakes sci-fi.

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  • From The Doctor@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jul 10 11:27:11 2025
    In article <MPG.42d86d47f66346289896e9@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <104lqhf$17ha$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:

    To Commander Riker's surprise,
    he is offered a promotion: command of the Starship Ares,
    tasked with exploring a newly discovered intelligent
    life form in the Vega-Omicron sector.


    How often was Riker offered a command? I'm pretty sure it was at least
    three times.

    One wonders how he reached the rank of commander with so little desire
    to advance.

    Cautious ambition.


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