• Re: Dharma Bums

    From W.Dockery@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Nov 26 21:43:00 2024
    Zod wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:

    He's a Dharma Bum, Pendragon.

    ;)

    Yep... one of many...!

    https://www.thedharmabums.org/

    ******************** The Dharma Bum Temple is a home for the study and practice of Buddhism, yet we do not advocate one particular school of Buddhism. Our community is simply a bridge for people to learn how to
    make change within their own life and be of benefit to others.

    The Dharma Bums focus on The Four Noble Truths, Eightfold Path and Six Paramitas. To speak about Buddhism is not enough, one must practice
    these basic Buddhist principles. Through diligent practice one will
    begin to realize the cause of their suffering, thus moving beyond
    suffering for the benefit of all beings. When one enters the stream of Buddhism it can be confusing, so we help make it easier to understand.**************************

    Again, good find.

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  • From W.Dockery@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Dec 9 02:31:33 2024
    Zod wrote:

    JD Chase wrote:

    Who can say for sure what works for Zod, other than Zod? He’s really the >> only one to answer... No one can speak for him... Well, they can, but it
    would be presumptuous and misguided... I am SO disappointed and ashamed
    of the judgmental attitudes I often read and witness in this group!
    Really wish that people would start examining themselves more and that
    they would stop being so negative and judgmental towards others...


    Again I thank J.C....!

    Hello there Zod and Jordy.

    😏

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  • From W.Dockery@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Dec 18 07:44:06 2024
    Zod wrote:

    On Saturday, December 21, 2019 at 5:19:03 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
    On Saturday, December 21, 2019 at 5:01:53 PM UTC-5, Hieronymous Corey
    wrote:
    On Saturday, December 21, 2019 at 4:57:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:

    I consider myself a latter day Dharma
    Bum.............

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dharma_Bums

    ***************The character Japhy drives Ray
    Smith's story, whose penchant for simplicity and Zen Buddhism influenced >>> Kerouac on the eve of the sudden and unpredicted success of On the Road. >>> The action shifts between the events of Smith and Ryder's "city life,"
    such as three-day parties and enactments of the Buddhist "Yab-Yum"
    rituals, to the sublime and peaceful imagery where Kerouac seeks a type
    of transcendence. The novel concludes with a change in narrative style,
    with Kerouac working alone as a fire lookout on Desolation Peak
    (adjacent to Hozomeen Mountain), in what would soon be declared North
    Cascades National Park (see also Kerouac's novel Desolation Angels). His >>> summer on Desolation Peak was desperately lonely. "Many's the time I
    thought I'd die of boredom or jump off the mountain," he wrote in
    ''Desolation Angels.''[2] Yet in the more eloquent ''Dharma Bums,"
    Kerouac described the experience in elegiac prose.

    Down on the lake rosy reflections of celestial >>> vapor appeared, and I said 'God, I love you' and looked up to the sky
    and really meant it. 'I have fallen in love with you, God. Take care of
    us all, one way or the other.'

    The blend of narrative with prose-poetry
    places The Dharma Bums at a critical juncture foreshadowing the
    consciousness-probing works of several authors in the 1960s such as
    Timothy Leary and Ken Kesey.[citation needed]

    One episode in the book features Smith, Ryder, >>> and Henry Morley (based on real-life friend John Montgomery) climbing
    Matterhorn Peak in California. It relates Kerouac's introduction to this >>> type of mountaineering and inspired him to spend the following summer as >>> a fire lookout for the United States Forest Service on Desolation Peak
    in Washington.

    The novel also gives an account of the
    legendary 1955 Six Gallery reading, where Allen Ginsberg gave a debut
    presentation of his poem "Howl" (changed to "Wail" in the book). At the
    event, other authors including Snyder, Kenneth Rexroth, Michael McClure, >>> and Philip Whalen also performed**********

    Where does the "dharma" come into your existence


    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Thomas_Idlet#Later_years

    Thomas met his fourth wife, the poet Philomene Long
    in 1983 at a poetry reading.[5] The couple were inseparable in his last
    years, and Thomas dedicated his final poems to her.[6]

    He said she "resurrected him." They lived together
    on the edge of American society, maintaining a lifestyle of "living
    poor" based on the ancient Zen recluse poets. "I would feel
    uncomfortable and irritable living any other way. I have Philomene, a
    pen, a pad, shirt and pants.. If you start wanting more, it fills you
    up, leading to a poverty of the heart and mind."[citation needed]

    Thomas spent the sunset days of his life in his
    house in Venice Beach and reading while sitting under a sweet gum tree
    on the grounds of the Zen Center of Los Angeles.


    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=++

    The above description fits Zod quite closely.


    *************************
    ****** Dharma is a concept of moral living **********

    Learn what it means to be a Dharma Bum before you attempt to
    correct Zod, who is actually living the life:

    “Happy. Just in my swim shorts, barefooted, wild-haired, in
    the red fire dark, singing, swigging wine, spitting, jumping,
    running—that's the way to live. All alone and free in the soft sands of >>> the beach by the sigh of the sea out there, with the Ma-Wink fallopian
    virgin warm stars reflecting on the outer channel fluid belly waters.
    And if your cans are redhot and you can't hold them in your hands, just
    use good old railroad gloves, that's all.” -Jack Kerouac, The Dharma
    Bums

    "Living the life"?

    Living a Dharma Bum life:

    “One man practicing kindness in the wilderness is worth all the
    temples this world pulls.” -Jack Kerouac, The Dharma Bums

    The Dharma Bums is a novel, a work of fiction, and Jack
    Kerouac was an alcoholic writer, not a Dharma Bum.

    The poet Gary Snyder was the model for a Dharma Bum.

    The book is a FICTIONALIZED account
    No shit, Sherlock.
    You do understand what FICTION is, don’t you?
    Dharma Bums is a work of FICTION. There are
    no REAL Dharma Bums, and there never were.
    Yes there were, as there is an account of groups of young people
    appearing at Kerouac's Florida home calling themselves "Dharma Bums".
    I've read this in Kerouac biographies, and I'm not sure if this has gone
    online yet or not... either way, it just has, right here.

    Yes, I read that somewhere, I shall do a search....

    Thanks again for reading and commenting.

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  • From W.Dockery@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Dec 23 10:45:16 2024
    Zod wrote:

    I consider myself one of the Dharma Bums, still and all.

    https://www.bartleby.com/essay/Dharma-Bums-PKD3CSSDJ3DQ


    *******************************
    Erica Schlecht wrote:
    A True Dharma Bum One of the most powerful quotes in the entire book
    that I feel sums up what it is to be a dharma bum, “ I felt free and therefore I was free”. This quote from Ray Smith shows that a dharma
    bum must always believe in oneself and take the journey to becoming a
    Dharma bum from within. Although one can learn from fellow dharma bums
    such as the Saint Teresa bum, Han Shan, and Japhy the ultimate truth of
    being Dharma bum comes from within. Saint Teresa Bum is the “first
    genuine dharma bum” that Ray Smith, the main character is Dharma Bums
    has ever met. The book starts off with Smith jumping into a box car
    where he runs into the Saint Teresa bum

    In chapter 24 the same idea is brought up, "Maybe I'll be rich and work
    and make a lot of money and live in a big house." But a minute later:
    "And who wants to enslave himself to a lot of all that, though?”
    (Chapter 24). Jack Kerouac’s writing about this shows that dharma bums
    do not need to fit into the mold of working society to be happy. At the
    same time a dharma bum is not one that sits around doing nothing, but
    one who constantly searches for oneself in nature and the things around
    him. This is shown in another quote from the book, “by God, you're
    right, all those sedentary bums sitting around on pillows hearing the
    cry of a triumphant mountain smasher, they don't deserve it” (Chapter
    12). Smith discusses what he has learned from Japhy here, “I realized I had indeed learned from Japhy how to cast off the evils for the world
    and the city and find my true pure soul, just as long as I had a decent
    pack on my back. I got back to my camp and spread the sleeping bag and thanked the Lord for all He was giving me” (156). Japhy has taught Smith that the Lord gives us all that we need and to look within the find true Dharma Bum peace. Being a Dharma Bum is not something that can be
    defined as one particular thing. Following certain procedures such as disposing of worldly possessions to look within and find oneself is a
    good step, but cannot truly define one’s journey.

    **************************************

    Again, good find, Zod.

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  • From W.Dockery@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Dec 23 21:00:40 2024
    Jordy C wrote:

    On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 8:32:38 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
    Jordy C wrote:

    On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 5:17:18 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
    On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 3:12:30 PM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 3:40:14 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
    Jordy C wrote:

    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 1:30:14 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote: >>>> > > >> Jordy C wrote:

    Who can say for sure what works for Zod, other than Zod? >>>> He’s really the only one to answer... No one can speak for him... Well, >>>> they can, but it would be presumptuous and misguided... I am SO
    disappointed and ashamed of the judgmental attitudes I often read and
    witness in this group! Really wish that people would start examining
    themselves more and that they would stop being so negative and
    judgmental towards others....

    Hello again, Jordy.


    bonjour, Will
    Good afternoon, my friend.


    hola Will

    Hello, Jordy.


    Shalom Will
    Good evening, Jordy.


    bonjour, Will

    Hello again my friend.

    😏

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