On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 14:43:23 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

George J. Dance wrote:
The holiday season has brought me an unexpected gift. This morning I
woke up too early (considering that I have to be up until past midnight
tonight), and did a search to see what of "George J. Dance" can be found
in a Google search. Less each time I search, alas, but this time I found
something new.

One of my search results was an article titled "What Colour are
Odysseus' Words? Traces of synaesthesia in Homeric scholarship" in
/Antigone/, an open forum classics journal. The author, Alexandra
Trachsel, is Senior Lecturer in Classics at the University of Hamburg
(or was; the article is undated).

The author begins by describing synaesthesia as "a condition where the
stimulation of one sense simultaneously triggers a reaction that makes
it seem as though a second sense has also been stimulated." She
continues:

"A famous example is seen in the sonnet Voyelles (“Vowels”), composed by >> the French poet Arthur Rimbaud (1854"91) in 1871/2:

A noir, E blanc, I rouge, U vert, O bleu, voyelles,
Je dirai quelque jour vos naissances latentes.
A, noir corset velu des mouches �clatantes
Qui bombillent autour des puanteurs cruelles,

Golfes d’ombre; E, candeur des vapeurs et des tentes,
Lances des glaciers fiers, rois blancs, frissons d’ombelles;
I, pourpres, sang crach�, rire des l�vres belles
Dans la col�re ou les ivresses p�nitentes;

U, cycles, vibrements divins des mers virides,
Paix des pâtis semés d’animaux, paix des rides
Que l’alchimie imprime aux grands fronts studieux;

O, supr�me Clairon plein des strideurs �tranges,
Silences travers�s des Mondes et des Anges:
" O l’Oméga, rayon violet de Ses Yeux![2]

"In George J. Dance’s 2015 translation this reads:

Black A, white E, red I, green U, blue O: you vowels,
Some day I’ll tell the tale of where your mystery lies:
Black A, a jacket formed of hairy, shiny flies
That buzz among harsh stinks in the abyss’s bowels;

White E, the white of kings, of moon-washed fogs and tents,
Of fields of shivering chervil, glaciers’ gleaming tips;
Red I, magenta, spat-up blood, the curl of lips
In laughter, hatred, or besotted penitence;

Green U, vibrating waves in viridescent seas,
Or peaceful pastures flecked with beasts " furrows of peace
Imprinted on our brows as if by alchemies;

Blue O, great Trumpet blaring strange and piercing cries
Through Silences where Worlds and Angels pass crosswise;
Omega, O, the violet brilliance of Those Eyes!"

I am not sure if Dr. Trachsel found my translation on PPB, or on
Wikisource. Like all my Rimbaud translations, it is Creative Commons
licensed, which is probably why she used it without contacting me.
Whatever the case, I was quite happy to see and reread it.

Dunce plagiarizes Rimbaud.

Not only that, but George Dunce doesn't speak French and isn't a poet.
Rimbaud is making his way to Toronto.

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On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 22:31:27 +0000, NastyGoon aka "NancyGene" wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 14:43:23 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain aka
"HarryLime" wrote:

George J. Dance wrote:
The holiday season has brought me an unexpected gift. This morning I
woke up too early (considering that I have to be up until past midnight
tonight), and did a search to see what of "George J. Dance" can be found >>> in a Google search. Less each time I search, alas, but this time I found >>> something new.

One of my search results was an article titled "What Colour are
Odysseus' Words? Traces of synaesthesia in Homeric scholarship" in
/Antigone/, an open forum classics journal. The author, Alexandra
Trachsel, is Senior Lecturer in Classics at the University of Hamburg
(or was; the article is undated).

The author begins by describing synaesthesia as "a condition where the
stimulation of one sense simultaneously triggers a reaction that makes
it seem as though a second sense has also been stimulated." She
continues:

"A famous example is seen in the sonnet Voyelles (“Vowels”), composed by
the French poet Arthur Rimbaud (1854"91) in 1871/2:

A noir, E blanc, I rouge, U vert, O bleu, voyelles,
Je dirai quelque jour vos naissances latentes.
A, noir corset velu des mouches �clatantes
Qui bombillent autour des puanteurs cruelles,

Golfes d’ombre; E, candeur des vapeurs et des tentes,
Lances des glaciers fiers, rois blancs, frissons d’ombelles;
I, pourpres, sang crach�, rire des l�vres belles
Dans la col�re ou les ivresses p�nitentes;

U, cycles, vibrements divins des mers virides,
Paix des pâtis semés d’animaux, paix des rides
Que l’alchimie imprime aux grands fronts studieux;

O, supr�me Clairon plein des strideurs �tranges,
Silences travers�s des Mondes et des Anges:
" O l’Oméga, rayon violet de Ses Yeux![2]

"In George J. Dance’s 2015 translation this reads:

Black A, white E, red I, green U, blue O: you vowels,
Some day I’ll tell the tale of where your mystery lies:
Black A, a jacket formed of hairy, shiny flies
That buzz among harsh stinks in the abyss’s bowels;

White E, the white of kings, of moon-washed fogs and tents,
Of fields of shivering chervil, glaciers’ gleaming tips;
Red I, magenta, spat-up blood, the curl of lips
In laughter, hatred, or besotted penitence;

Green U, vibrating waves in viridescent seas,
Or peaceful pastures flecked with beasts " furrows of peace
Imprinted on our brows as if by alchemies;

Blue O, great Trumpet blaring strange and piercing cries
Through Silences where Worlds and Angels pass crosswise;
Omega, O, the violet brilliance of Those Eyes!"

I am not sure if Dr. Trachsel found my translation on PPB, or on
Wikisource. Like all my Rimbaud translations, it is Creative Commons
licensed, which is probably why she used it without contacting me.
Whatever the case, I was quite happy to see and reread it.

Dunce plagiarizes Rimbaud.

Michael Monkey Peabrain once again proves that he doesn't know what
plagiarism is. Rimbaud is fully credited as the author, both in Dr.
Trachsel's article and in her source text (my translation).

Not only that, but George Dunce doesn't speak French and isn't a poet.

NastyGoon is just spreading gossip again, chewing up and spitting out
pigshit from Piggy Ross that they swallowed.

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