• Re: UK gets nul points (from public) yet again

    From The True Doctor@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun May 18 13:22:08 2025
    On 18/05/2025 01:21, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Sending 3 talentless bimbos to Eurovision,
    what the hell just happened?


    They couldn't afford to bribe enough audience members to vote for them
    like they did the jury. Neither could Switzerland it seems.

    --
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  • From The True Doctor@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon May 19 04:38:01 2025
    On 18/05/2025 18:16, Blueshirt wrote:
    Nomen Nescio wrote:

    Sending 3 talentless bimbos to Eurovision,
    what the hell just happened?

    "Talentless" could probably describe most of the Eurovision
    entries...

    And all of the writers of Doctor Whoke including the clueless DEI hire
    that wrote the last episode to encourage children to commit terrorist
    acts and torture and murder people they did not agree with their
    politics and opinions. Oh, and to experiment in becoming homosexuals. We mustn't forget that. Racism is bad, sexism is bad, heterosexual men are
    all bad, and homosexuals are out saviours because they fight all of
    these people while being even bigger sexists, racists and bigots
    themselves at the same time.

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

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  • From Andy Leighton@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon May 19 05:15:08 2025
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 19:38:01 +0100, The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2025 18:16, Blueshirt wrote:
    Nomen Nescio wrote:

    Sending 3 talentless bimbos to Eurovision,
    what the hell just happened?

    "Talentless" could probably describe most of the Eurovision
    entries...

    And all of the writers of Doctor Whoke including the clueless DEI hire
    that wrote the last episode to encourage children to commit terrorist
    acts

    You did get that the terrorists were the bad guys in this episode didn't
    you? The Corporation were also an off-screen villain too.

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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon May 19 06:15:39 2025
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 18/05/2025 18:16, Blueshirt wrote:
    Nomen Nescio wrote:

    Sending 3 talentless bimbos to Eurovision,
    what the hell just happened?

    "Talentless" could probably describe most of the Eurovision
    entries...

    And all of the writers of Doctor Whoke including the clueless
    DEI hire that wrote the last episode to encourage children to
    commit terrorist acts and torture and murder people they did
    not agree with their politics and opinions. Oh, and to
    experiment in becoming homosexuals. We mustn't forget that.
    Racism is bad, sexism is bad, heterosexual men are all bad,
    and homosexuals are out saviours because they fight all of
    these people while being even bigger sexists, racists and
    bigots themselves at the same time.

    Do you ever give it a rest? It must be very lonely in your world
    if that's how you see everything.

    You know, I think it really would be a lot easier on your mind
    if you just didn't watch any TV at all. After all, if you are
    constantly being exposed to harmful material it would make more
    sense to do yourself a favour and switch it off.



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  • From The True Doctor@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon May 19 11:29:38 2025
    On 18/05/2025 20:15, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 19:38:01 +0100, The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2025 18:16, Blueshirt wrote:
    Nomen Nescio wrote:

    Sending 3 talentless bimbos to Eurovision,
    what the hell just happened?

    "Talentless" could probably describe most of the Eurovision
    entries...

    And all of the writers of Doctor Whoke including the clueless DEI hire
    that wrote the last episode to encourage children to commit terrorist
    acts

    You did get that the terrorists were the bad guys in this episode didn't
    you? The Corporation were also an off-screen villain too.


    The terrorists were characterised as the good guys and their cause was justified in the end by the woke pervert that wrote this episode by the literary contrivance of the Corporation as the father of all evil.

    The way that intelligent writers deal with terrorists and terrorism,
    unlike disgusting, sick, and twisted woke activists and DEI hires, is by making it clear that their cause was NEVER justified but pure evil
    itself, and there can be no sympathy for it whatsoever, not giving them sympathy by turning one of the terrorists' co-species into the heroine
    and have her singing a political song in support of the terrorists cause
    at the end of the strong.

    Everyone with intelligence knows this which is why the UK gave Israel
    the maximum 12 marks in the Eurovision final and it came second despite
    a bunch of perverted woke activists that represent nothing but a tiny
    minority signing a petition to have Israel and it's singer -- a survivor
    of the October 7 terrorist attack on a pop concert that this perverted
    filth filled episode tried to justify -- to be expelled.


    --
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  • From The True Doctor@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon May 19 11:31:51 2025
    On 18/05/2025 21:15, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 18/05/2025 18:16, Blueshirt wrote:
    Nomen Nescio wrote:

    Sending 3 talentless bimbos to Eurovision,
    what the hell just happened?

    "Talentless" could probably describe most of the Eurovision
    entries...

    And all of the writers of Doctor Whoke including the clueless
    DEI hire that wrote the last episode to encourage children to
    commit terrorist acts and torture and murder people they did
    not agree with their politics and opinions. Oh, and to
    experiment in becoming homosexuals. We mustn't forget that.
    Racism is bad, sexism is bad, heterosexual men are all bad,
    and homosexuals are out saviours because they fight all of
    these people while being even bigger sexists, racists and
    bigots themselves at the same time.

    Do you ever give it a rest? It must be very lonely in your world
    if that's how you see everything.

    You know, I think it really would be a lot easier on your mind
    if you just didn't watch any TV at all. After all, if you are
    constantly being exposed to harmful material it would make more
    sense to do yourself a favour and switch it off.


    It would make more sense for the BBC to stop broadcasting harmful
    material such as the last episode of Doctor Whoke which came out in
    support of terrorist causes and the comment by Graham Norton against
    Israel at the end of the Eurovision final when it was beaten by Austria.


    --
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  • From The True Doctor@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon May 19 21:23:45 2025
    On 19/05/2025 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/05/2025 4:38 am, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 18/05/2025 18:16, Blueshirt wrote:
    Nomen Nescio wrote:

    Sending 3 talentless bimbos to Eurovision,
    what the hell just happened?

    "Talentless" could probably describe most of the Eurovision
    entries...

    And all of the writers of Doctor Whoke including the clueless DEI hire
    that wrote the last episode to encourage children to commit terrorist
    acts and torture and murder people they did not agree with their
    politics and opinions. Oh, and to experiment in becoming homosexuals.
    We mustn't forget that. Racism is bad, sexism is bad, heterosexual men
    are all bad, and homosexuals are out saviours because they fight all
    of these people while being even bigger sexists, racists and bigots
    themselves at the same time.

    But, when you think about bit, Aggy, "Doctor Who" has *ALWAYS* been a Violent, Racist T.V. show .... I mean, how often have we seen The Doctor Kill, Blow up or otherwise Hurt Beings not from our Homeland?? Week
    after Week after Week!!

    Doctor Who was never about racism, or sexism, or homosexuality. It was escapist entertainment about the impact of science and technology on
    societies and how it could be used for both good and evil and to handle
    it. Where was any of that in the perverted story from the mentally ill
    DEI hire last week?

    The Doctor didn't blow up or hurt other beings like the pervert Ncuti
    Gatwa does now. Other people did that after he encouraged them to take a
    moral stance as the voice of reason. There is no morality in this woke perversion whose only purpose is to encourage children to experiment in homosexuality instead of science. The woke don't believe in morality.
    They only believe in sexually grooming children.

    For the last fucking 8 years since the introduction of Bill Potts
    totally collapsed the ratings to the lowest ever the sole message of
    this infantile pile of degenerate woke shit is racism is bad, sexism is
    bad, heterosexual men are all bad, and homosexuals are our saviours
    because they fight all of these people while being even bigger sexists, racists and bigots themselves at the same time.

    --
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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon May 19 21:42:05 2025
    The True Doctor wrote:

    It would make more sense for the BBC to stop broadcasting
    harmful material such as the last episode of Doctor Whoke
    which came out in support of terrorist causes and the comment
    by Graham Norton against Israel at the end of the Eurovision
    final when it was beaten by Austria.

    Austria beat Israel? There's irony for yer!!!


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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon May 19 22:03:54 2025
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 19/05/2025 3:16 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Nomen Nescio wrote:

    Sending 3 talentless bimbos to Eurovision,
    what the hell just happened?

    "Talentless" could probably describe most of the Eurovision
    entries...

    WHAT?? Don't tell me, Blueshirt, you actually took time out of
    your "Doctor Who" watching schedule to actually watch
    Eurovision!!

    How could you?? ;-P

    No, I wasn't around anyway this year... but the Eurovision is
    usually full of OTT exhibitionists, freaks and misfits... I
    wouldn't watch it if you paid me.

    The political scoring used to always be quite fun to watch
    though, trying to guess who is going to give each other the top
    points... and what 'cause' is going to be virtue signalled this
    year (etc.)

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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon May 19 22:09:16 2025
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 19/05/2025 6:15 am, Blueshirt wrote:

    You know, I think it really would be a lot easier on your
    mind if you just didn't watch any TV at all. After all, if
    you are constantly being exposed to harmful material it
    would make more sense to do yourself a favour and switch it
    off.

    But, hang on, I didn't think Aggy watched ANY T.V. .... he
    just downloaded these programs so WE didn't have to!!

    IIRC he uses his PC to watch the TV ... but if he's constantly
    being exposed to all that harmful material, created by perverts
    to sexually groom people, he should make some sort of an effort
    to turn it off and cut down his exposure to that sort of thing.
    After all, we wouldn't want him to be 'groomed' now, would we?

    As for what he downloads with BitTorrent... I wouldn't dare to
    ask!

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  • From Andy Leighton@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon May 19 23:40:49 2025
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:23:45 +0100,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

    Doctor Who was never about racism,

    Yeah the Daleks were never about racism! Sure! I mean they were
    obviously a thinly veiled metaphor for the Nazis even in the early
    '60s.

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  • From The True Doctor@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue May 20 03:19:01 2025
    On 19/05/2025 14:40, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:23:45 +0100,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

    Doctor Who was never about racism,

    Yeah the Daleks were never about racism! Sure! I mean they were
    obviously a thinly veiled metaphor for the Nazis even in the early
    '60s.


    WW2 wasn't about stopping the Nazis from being racist. It was about
    stopping them taking control of all of Europe and taking away everyone's freedoms which is what every Dalek story is about too.

    The Daleks were based on the crab-like creatures life on Earth had
    evolved into in order to survive the end of the world as described by H
    G Wells at the end of The Time Machine, the Martian War Machines in The
    War of the Worlds, the Kaldanes in Edgar Rice Burroughs' The Chessmen of
    Mars (which were basically H G Wells crabs creatures using Martian
    bodies as a travel machine), and the first 6ish chapters of The
    Synthetic Men of Mars was the basis for the plot of Genesis of the
    Daleks and the template for the character of Davros (Ras-Thavas), as was
    The Master Mind of Mars, both stories by ERB.

    You never hear any Daleks saying, the Thals took over the stock market,
    they took control of big business, manipulated the government, and
    wrecked the economy so that ordinary people suffered while they made themselves richer and richer, and want everyone to submit to their will.
    The Daleks are pure evil that want to destroy everything that is
    different from them, which means that they represent the woke, because
    wokery is a derivative of fascism which is what the Nazis stood for!

    Doctor Who like I said above was never about racism, even if the Dalkes
    fought to exterminate other races. It was about freedom; freedom to
    live, freedom to think, freedom to express yourself and say anything you
    want to say, freedom to travel anywhere you want to go and explore the
    entire universe and all of time. The Daleks were there to take away you freedom and your life, not to be shown making racist attacks against individuals because of their skin colour, or religion, or gender, or
    sexuality which is the bullshit we get from Doctor Whoke, and it isn't
    even the villains being racist, its ordinary people not even connected
    with the plot or the villains, such as the lecture Gatwa gave the
    viewers at the start of The Story and the Engine based on the contrived
    woke false narrative that only white people can be racist. Gatwa forgets
    that his own ancestors in Rwanda all butchered each other and all of
    them were black.

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner

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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue May 20 06:02:28 2025
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <slrn102md71.1q5.andyl@azaal.plus.com>,
    Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:23:45 +0100,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

    Doctor Who was never about racism,

    Yeah the Daleks were never about racism! Sure! I mean they
    were obviously a thinly veiled metaphor for the Nazis even
    in the early '60s.

    Xenophobia yes.

    The thing is, the Daleks were not proper Nazi's anyway were
    they? After all, wasn't their main enemy a race of people with
    blond hair and blue eyes? They were also led by a cripple in a
    wheelchair... and before he came along, the Dalek leader was
    usually black. That's some master race! :-)

    If anything the Daleks were the precursors of parts of Doctor
    Who fandom... they hate because they know no different. So they
    end up just hating everything and wanting to destroy for no
    other reason than it's what they do... and have always done.

    And then there is Talons of Weng-Chiang.

    One of the best episodes of Doctor Who ever made.

    Just because it's a Doctor Who story that wouldn't be made now
    doesn't take away from that fact.

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  • From The Last Doctor@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue May 20 06:53:26 2025
    On 19/05/2025 21:02, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <slrn102md71.1q5.andyl@azaal.plus.com>,
    Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:23:45 +0100,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

    Doctor Who was never about racism,

    Yeah the Daleks were never about racism! Sure! I mean they
    were obviously a thinly veiled metaphor for the Nazis even
    in the early '60s.

    Xenophobia yes.

    The thing is, the Daleks were not proper Nazi's anyway were
    they? After all, wasn't their main enemy a race of people with
    blond hair and blue eyes? They were also led by a cripple in a
    wheelchair... and before he came along, the Dalek leader was
    usually black. That's some master race! :-)

    If anything the Daleks were the precursors of parts of Doctor
    Who fandom... they hate because they know no different. So they
    end up just hating everything and wanting to destroy for no
    other reason than it's what they do... and have always done.

    And then there is Talons of Weng-Chiang.

    One of the best episodes of Doctor Who ever made.

    Just because it's a Doctor Who story that wouldn't be made now
    doesn't take away from that fact.

    It wouldn't be made in quite the way it was then. But with a few tweaks (and
    with appropriate cultural references, and exposing the racism of the time
    rather than casually accepting it) it would be perfectly acceptable.


    --
    There’s no point in being grown up if you can’t act a little childish
    sometimes.

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  • From The True Doctor@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue May 20 07:59:59 2025
    On 19/05/2025 21:53, The Last Doctor wrote:
    On 19/05/2025 21:02, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <slrn102md71.1q5.andyl@azaal.plus.com>,
    Andy Leightonÿ <andyl@azaal.plus.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:23:45 +0100, > The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    Doctor Who was never about racism, > > Yeah the Daleks were
    never about racism!ÿ Sure!ÿ I mean they
    were obviously a thinly veiled metaphor for the Nazis even
    in the early '60s.
    Xenophobia yes.

    The thing is, the Daleks were not proper Nazi's anyway were
    they? After all, wasn't their main enemy a race of people with
    blond hair and blue eyes? They were also led by a cripple in a
    wheelchair... and before he came along, the Dalek leader was
    usually black. That's some master race!ÿ :-)

    If anything the Daleks were the precursors of parts of Doctor
    Who fandom... they hate because they know no different. So they
    end up just hating everything and wanting to destroy for no
    other reason than it's what they do... and have always done.

    And then there is Talons of Weng-Chiang.

    One of the best episodes of Doctor Who ever made.

    Just because it's a Doctor Who story that wouldn't be made now
    doesn't take away from that fact.

    It wouldn't be made in quite the way it was then. But with a few tweaks
    (and
    with appropriate cultural references, and exposing the racism of the time rather than casually accepting it) it would be perfectly acceptable.



    Oh, exposing the racism, you mean encouraging children to be racist by demonstrating to them how to do it with the depiction of racist
    protagonists. Fucking woke imbeciles. They understand nothing.

    The way you teach people not to be racist is by not showing them any
    examples of racism to follow. Talons was never racist and never depicted racism.

    Moronic woke retards should never be let anywhere near a television or
    movie studio, or theatre.

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner

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  • From The True Doctor@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue May 20 08:59:47 2025
    On 19/05/2025 15:24, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <100feri$1lm3u$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2025 11:40 pm, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:23:45 +0100,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote: >>>>
    Doctor Who was never about racism,

    Yeah the Daleks were never about racism! Sure! I mean they were
    obviously a thinly veiled metaphor for the Nazis even in the early
    '60s.

    Yeah, and, as I recall, at some time in NewWho, weren't Humans/Humanoids
    being turned in CyberMEN?? i.e. Humans/Humanoids could be improved!

    Cybermen was a parallel to Communism.

    Daleks was a parallele to Naziism.


    Both are parallels to Marxism and the wokery that it created.

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner

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  • From Andy Leighton@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue May 20 20:51:11 2025
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 23:59:47 +0100, The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2025 15:24, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <100feri$1lm3u$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2025 11:40 pm, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:23:45 +0100,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote: >>>>>
    Doctor Who was never about racism,

    Yeah the Daleks were never about racism! Sure! I mean they were
    obviously a thinly veiled metaphor for the Nazis even in the early
    '60s.

    Yeah, and, as I recall, at some time in NewWho, weren't Humans/Humanoids >>> being turned in CyberMEN?? i.e. Humans/Humanoids could be improved!

    Cybermen was a parallel to Communism.

    Daleks was a parallele to Naziism.


    Both are parallels to Marxism and the wokery that it created.

    Sure the SS style uniforms and nazi-salutes in Genesis are nothing
    to do with anything.


    --
    Andy Leighton => andyl@azaal.plus.com
    "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
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  • From The True Doctor@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed May 21 04:38:18 2025
    On 20/05/2025 11:51, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 23:59:47 +0100, The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2025 15:24, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <100feri$1lm3u$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2025 11:40 pm, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:23:45 +0100,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote: >>>>>>
    Doctor Who was never about racism,

    Yeah the Daleks were never about racism! Sure! I mean they were
    obviously a thinly veiled metaphor for the Nazis even in the early
    '60s.

    Yeah, and, as I recall, at some time in NewWho, weren't Humans/Humanoids >>>> being turned in CyberMEN?? i.e. Humans/Humanoids could be improved!

    Cybermen was a parallel to Communism.

    Daleks was a parallele to Naziism.


    Both are parallels to Marxism and the wokery that it created.

    Sure the SS style uniforms and nazi-salutes in Genesis are nothing
    to do with anything.


    Adolf Hitler was a Marxist Socialist by his own admission. Read Mein
    Kampf. Fascism the ideology Hitler based Nazism on was defined by its
    creator Benito Mussolini as being part of Marxism as defined by Karl
    Marx himself. George Orwell's 1984 makes no sense whatsoever unless you
    accept that Hitler was a Socialist and a Marxist since the National
    Socialist German Workers Party or the Nazis is what Ingsoc, the English Socialist Party, is based on. Orwell publicly stated that he
    intentionally wrote by Animal Farm and 1984 to warn of the dangers of Socialism.

    Also remember that Roald Dahl stated that Political Correctness was
    invented by Marx and Stalin.

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner

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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed May 21 07:43:48 2025
    The True Doctor wrote:

    George Orwell's 1984 makes no sense whatsoever unless you
    accept that Hitler was a Socialist and a Marxist since the
    National Socialist German Workers Party or the Nazis is what
    Ingsoc, the English Socialist Party, is based on.

    Orwell publicly stated that he intentionally wrote Animal
    Farm and 1984 to warn of the dangers of Socialism.

    As you seem to love George Orwell so much maybe you should
    re-read what he had to say about "pre-fabricated phrases" and
    "needless repetition" ... and try to bear it in mind when you
    come to type out this weekend's manifesto.

    I couldn't get through last Saturday's one, it was way too
    long... try cutting out unnecessary words... like woke and
    garbage! After all, why use four hundred and seventy words
    when twenty eight will do?!

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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed May 21 07:44:18 2025
    The Doctor wrote:


    Wokes are follows! Labour are full of MArxists!

    Your concise insights into modern politics are breathtaking Dave,
    so deep and enlightening... have you ever thought of running for
    the local council?

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  • From The True Doctor@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed May 21 08:34:10 2025
    On 20/05/2025 22:43, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    George Orwell's 1984 makes no sense whatsoever unless you
    accept that Hitler was a Socialist and a Marxist since the
    National Socialist German Workers Party or the Nazis is what
    Ingsoc, the English Socialist Party, is based on.

    Orwell publicly stated that he intentionally wrote Animal
    Farm and 1984 to warn of the dangers of Socialism.

    As you seem to love George Orwell so much maybe you should
    re-read what he had to say about "pre-fabricated phrases" and
    "needless repetition" ... and try to bear it in mind when you
    come to type out this weekend's manifesto.


    How about you gain some comprehension skills and she how this
    brainwashing technique is being used by the woke perverts writing Doctor
    Whoke in order to sexually groom children.

    I couldn't get through last Saturday's one, it was way too
    long... try cutting out unnecessary words... like woke and
    garbage! After all, why use four hundred and seventy words
    when twenty eight will do?!

    If it's woke gabage I will describe it as woke garbage. Stop acting like
    the degenerate woke conmen that tricked to stupid woke Emperor into
    wearing nothing on his birthday parade by denying reality.

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner

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  • From The True Doctor@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed May 21 11:14:36 2025
    On 20/05/2025 22:44, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:


    Wokes are follows! Labour are full of MArxists!

    Your concise insights into modern politics are breathtaking Dave,
    so deep and enlightening... have you ever thought of running for
    the local council?

    He have to stand for Reform in order to be elected. Labour is indeed
    full of Marxists as is the Conservative Party.

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner

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  • From Andy Leighton@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed May 21 18:09:35 2025
    On Tue, 20 May 2025 19:38:18 +0100,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 20/05/2025 11:51, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 23:59:47 +0100, The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2025 15:24, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <100feri$1lm3u$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2025 11:40 pm, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:23:45 +0100,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

    Doctor Who was never about racism,

    Yeah the Daleks were never about racism! Sure! I mean they were
    obviously a thinly veiled metaphor for the Nazis even in the early >>>>>> '60s.

    Yeah, and, as I recall, at some time in NewWho, weren't Humans/Humanoids >>>>> being turned in CyberMEN?? i.e. Humans/Humanoids could be improved!

    Cybermen was a parallel to Communism.

    Daleks was a parallele to Naziism.


    Both are parallels to Marxism and the wokery that it created.

    Sure the SS style uniforms and nazi-salutes in Genesis are nothing
    to do with anything.


    Adolf Hitler was a Marxist Socialist by his own admission. Read Mein
    Kampf. Fascism the ideology Hitler based Nazism on was defined by its creator Benito Mussolini as being part of Marxism as defined by Karl
    Marx himself.

    You argument makes no sense.

    I said the Daleks were a metaphor for the Nazis.
    You disagree and say that it is a prallel to Marxism and wokery.
    I then make a point where the show is using Nazi imagery.

    And then your counterpoint is that Hitler was a Maxrist Socialist.
    He wasn't - he was profoundly anti-Marx - even in his early
    writing. But even if it were true it would in no way diminish
    my point that the Daleks were a metaphor for the Nazis.

    The Daleks borrowed the Nazis's 'dislike of the unlike' (their
    racism) and borrowed nothing from the class struggle of Marxism.
    We don't see Daleks going around chanting "Workers of the world,
    unite!" and "From Each According to His Abilities, to Each According
    to His Needs".

    --
    Andy Leighton => andyl@azaal.plus.com
    "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
    - Douglas Adams

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  • From John Hall@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed May 21 19:06:16 2025
    Reply-To: John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk>

    In message <100j9du$2gcvt$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> writes
    On 20/05/2025 22:44, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:


    Wokes are follows! Labour are full of MArxists!
    Your concise insights into modern politics are breathtaking Dave,
    so deep and enlightening... have you ever thought of running for
    the local council?

    He have to stand for Reform in order to be elected. Labour is indeed
    full of Marxists as is the Conservative Party.


    Doesn't he live in Canada? He'd have to move to the UK first. Do you
    have to be a British citizen to stand in UK local and/or parliamentary elections? I confess I've no idea.
    --
    John Hall
    "I look upon it, that he who does not mind his belly,
    will hardly mind anything else."
    Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84)

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  • From The True Doctor@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed May 21 19:27:20 2025
    On 21/05/2025 09:09, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Tue, 20 May 2025 19:38:18 +0100,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 20/05/2025 11:51, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 23:59:47 +0100, The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 19/05/2025 15:24, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <100feri$1lm3u$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
    On 19/05/2025 11:40 pm, Andy Leighton wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:23:45 +0100,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

    Doctor Who was never about racism,

    Yeah the Daleks were never about racism! Sure! I mean they were >>>>>>> obviously a thinly veiled metaphor for the Nazis even in the early >>>>>>> '60s.

    Yeah, and, as I recall, at some time in NewWho, weren't Humans/Humanoids >>>>>> being turned in CyberMEN?? i.e. Humans/Humanoids could be improved! >>>>>
    Cybermen was a parallel to Communism.

    Daleks was a parallele to Naziism.


    Both are parallels to Marxism and the wokery that it created.

    Sure the SS style uniforms and nazi-salutes in Genesis are nothing
    to do with anything.


    Adolf Hitler was a Marxist Socialist by his own admission. Read Mein
    Kampf. Fascism the ideology Hitler based Nazism on was defined by its
    creator Benito Mussolini as being part of Marxism as defined by Karl
    Marx himself.

    You argument makes no sense.


    My argument makes perfect sense. Learn some history and read the texts, interviews, and conference transcripts from the time.

    I said the Daleks were a metaphor for the Nazis.

    As they were.

    You disagree and say that it is a prallel to Marxism and wokery.

    That is not a disagreement since the Nazis were by its very definition Marxists. Fascism is a Marxist ideology. Everyone that knows history
    knows that. That's why George Orwell stated that 1984 was a warning of
    the dangers of socialism and why he based Ingsoc the English Socialist
    Party of the Nazis. In 1984 the entire world has become a Marxist
    tyranny based on Socialist principles of totalitarianism, with communist Russia controlling Eurasia, communist China controlling Eastasia, and
    fascist Oceania controlling Britain and America. Fascism being BY
    DEFINITION a derivative of right wing Marxism.

    Whereas Communist Marxism believes that all industry must be owned by
    the state in order to control it Fascist Marxism believes that the state
    can control all industry without needing to own it. That's the
    difference between the two sides of Marxism. Neither Hitler nor
    Mussolini were Western Capitalists, nor did they believe in the free
    market. By they own words they stood to the left of Western Capitalism
    and were both socialists.

    I then make a point where the show is using Nazi imagery.


    That does not change the fact that the Nazis were Marxists.

    And then your counterpoint is that Hitler was a Maxrist Socialist.
    He wasn't - he was profoundly anti-Marx - even in his early

    Yes he was in every sense of the term.

    Hitler in Mein Kampf clearly states that he deliberately incorporated
    Marxist ideology into Nazism. Hitler was an admirer of Karl Marx who was
    a fellow anti-Semite. His only disagreement with the German Marxists
    (who were all disunited) and Marx himself was that he believed like
    Mussolini that the state could control all industry without actually
    owning it. The Communists believed that the state must own industry to
    control it.

    Hitler even advocated for literal Communism by calling for the
    expropriation of agricultural land from its owners and merging it all
    together to form communes. He also called for the expropriation of
    wealth from the rich to pay for the creation of work and education
    programmes.

    writing. But even if it were true it would in no way diminish
    my point that the Daleks were a metaphor for the Nazis.


    I never disagreed with that, but that is not what they are primarily
    based on. The Daleks are derived from H G Wells The Time Machine and
    Edgar Rice Burroughs The Chessmen of Mars.

    In The Daleks Skaro is engulfed in radiation after a nuclear war and the
    Dals mutated into the crab like creatures in the penultimate chapter of
    The Time Machine who are encased in metal shells in order to move
    around, based on the Kaldanes from The Chessmen of Mars, who use human
    engines to transport them around, and the Martians from The War of the
    Worlds who use machines to transport themselves in, whereas the Thals
    stay in humanoid form.

    The Daleks are the Morlocks, and the Thals are the Eloi from The Time
    Machine. The plot element of extermination derives from The Skylark of
    Space by E E Smith published in 1928 where Kondalek wants to exterminate
    the people of Mardonale.

    The Daleks borrowed the Nazis's 'dislike of the unlike' (their
    racism) and borrowed nothing from the class struggle of Marxism.

    The Daleks embodied the totalitarian ideology of Marxism and since they represent the Morlocks from The Time Machine they also embody Marxism's
    class dichotomy. Like the Pigs on Animal Farm which tells the story of
    Marxism the Daleks became everything the Dals originally despised. In
    The Daleks the Dals were the poets, the artists, the philosophers, etc. whereas the Thals were the aggressors and the war mongers.

    We don't see Daleks going around chanting "Workers of the world,
    unite!" and "From Each According to His Abilities, to Each According
    to His Needs".


    We don't see this but it is alluded to by them in The Daleks. The Daleks
    are right-wing Marxists, ie. Fascists who embody Hitler's ideology that
    no one else has the right to appropriate German culture or assimilate
    it. The Cyberman are Communists who want to force assimilation onto
    everyone who is different.

    Most of the plot of Genesis of the Daleks is based on the the first 6
    chapters of Synthetic Men of Mars by Edgar Rice Burroughs which was
    published in 1939. Davros is not primarily based on Adolf Hitler. He's
    based on the Martian scientist Ras-Thavas (Thava-Ras => Davros, read the
    book it explains it) who has made himself virtually immortal though his knowledge of medicine and wants to play God by creating the ultimate
    life form, the Synthetic Men of the story, but after repeatedly failing
    in experiment after experiment to perfect them Ras-Thavas Synthetic Men
    rebel against their creator and take over his laboratory after he
    attempts to destroy them when he realises they want to overthrow him.
    It's another Marxist revolution where the Synthetic Men like the Pigs on Animal Farm think they are being oppressed, believe they are superior,
    and want to take over the whole world.

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner

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  • From Andy Leighton@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed May 21 19:30:14 2025
    On Wed, 21 May 2025 10:06:16 +0100, John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <100j9du$2gcvt$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> writes
    On 20/05/2025 22:44, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:


    Wokes are follows! Labour are full of MArxists!
    Your concise insights into modern politics are breathtaking Dave,
    so deep and enlightening... have you ever thought of running for
    the local council?

    He have to stand for Reform in order to be elected. Labour is indeed
    full of Marxists as is the Conservative Party.

    Doesn't he live in Canada? He'd have to move to the UK first. Do you
    have to be a British citizen to stand in UK local and/or parliamentary elections? I confess I've no idea.

    No you do not have to be a British citizen to be a MP. You can be Irish
    or a citizen of a commonwealth country (who doesn't require leave to enter
    or remain).

    --
    Andy Leighton => andyl@azaal.plus.com
    "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
    - Douglas Adams

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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed May 21 20:34:20 2025
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 20/05/2025 22:44, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:


    Wokes are follows! Labour are full of MArxists!

    Your concise insights into modern politics are breathtaking
    Dave, so deep and enlightening... have you ever thought of
    running for the local council?

    He have to stand for Reform in order to be elected. Labour is
    indeed full of Marxists as is the Conservative Party.

    I was thinking more closer to home, for him... as in, Edmonton,
    Alberta.

    We wouldn't want him on this side of the pond now, would we? He
    might want to call in for tea!

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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed May 21 20:37:35 2025
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 20/05/2025 22:43, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    Orwell publicly stated that he intentionally wrote Animal
    Farm and 1984 to warn of the dangers of Socialism.

    As you seem to love George Orwell so much maybe you should
    re-read what he had to say about "pre-fabricated phrases" and
    "needless repetition" ... and try to bear it in mind when you
    come to type out this weekend's manifesto.

    How about you gain some comprehension skills and she how this
    brainwashing technique is being used by the woke perverts
    writing Doctor Whoke in order to sexually groom children.

    Clearly your comprehension of what needless repetition means
    goes over your head.

    I couldn't get through last Saturday's one, it was way too
    long... try cutting out unnecessary words... like woke and
    garbage! After all, why use four hundred and seventy words
    when twenty eight will do?!

    If it's woke gabage I will describe it as woke garbage. Stop
    acting like the degenerate woke conmen that tricked to stupid
    woke Emperor into wearing nothing on his birthday parade by
    denying reality.

    I bet you have all these phrases and paragraphs ready to cut and
    paste don't you?

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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed May 21 20:45:46 2025
    The Doctor wrote:


    Woke is broke.

    That's clever Dave, two words that rhyme. Did you think of that
    all by yourself?

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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed May 21 20:47:13 2025
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <100j9du$2gcvt$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 20/05/2025 22:44, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    Wokes are follows! Labour are full of MArxists!

    Your concise insights into modern politics are breathtaking
    Dave, so deep and enlightening... have you ever thought of
    running for the local council?

    He have to stand for Reform in order to be elected. Labour
    is indeed full of Marxists as is the Conservative Party.

    I prefer Ed Davey and the LDems.

    The UK electorate don't!

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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed May 21 20:57:30 2025
    John Hall wrote:

    In message <100j9du$2gcvt$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> writes
    On 20/05/2025 22:44, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    Wokes are follows! Labour are full of MArxists!
    Your concise insights into modern politics are breathtaking
    Dave, so deep and enlightening... have you ever thought of
    running for the local council?

    He have to stand for Reform in order to be elected. Labour
    is indeed full of Marxists as is the Conservative Party.


    Doesn't he live in Canada? He'd have to move to the UK first.
    Do you have to be a British citizen to stand in UK local
    and/or parliamentary elections? I confess I've no idea.

    Dave was born in the UK so he's probably got British citizenship
    anyway... but don't encourage him, the True North has its own
    issues, let him run for office over there. I'm sure his slogan
    of 'Vote NotKnow: free internet for all' will become popular
    among the masses and get him some votes!

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  • From The True Doctor@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed May 21 22:39:20 2025
    On 21/05/2025 11:34, Blueshirt wrote:
    Andy Leighton wrote:

    On Tue, 20 May 2025 19:38:18 +0100,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

    Adolf Hitler was a Marxist Socialist by his own admission.
    Read Mein Kampf. Fascism the ideology Hitler based Nazism on
    was defined by its creator Benito Mussolini as being part of
    Marxism as defined by Karl Marx himself.

    You argument makes no sense.

    [...]

    The Daleks borrowed the Nazis's 'dislike of the unlike' (their
    racism) and borrowed nothing from the class struggle of
    Marxism.

    We don't see Daleks going around chanting "Workers
    of the world, unite!" and "From Each According to His
    Abilities, to Each According to His Needs".

    But you did hear Nazis saying that at all of the rallies, because they
    were Socialists by name and Socialists by nature. The entirety of Mein
    Kampf has Hitler telling everyone how oppressed he was as a child by
    being denied a place at the Vienna Academy of Fine Arts and how the
    conquering powers, big business, and the rich, especially the Jews,
    oppressed Germany and the Germans.

    Does that sound familiar to you? It's the exact same message of the woke
    of today.


    We don't... although, Big Finish did produce a 6th Doctor audio
    story "Brotherhood of the Daleks" that did feature socialist
    Daleks. Socialist Daleks that went around singing 'The Red Flag'
    in fact. (I'm sure it seemed amusing to Alan Barnes and Nick
    Briggs at the time!)
    All the Daleks need to say is Exterminate and they are the exact personification of socialism, not just that of Hitler, but that of
    Stalin as well who exterminated over 40 million Christians. That's the ideology your wokery is based on.
    Remember the part of The Daleks where the Daleks themselves claimed they
    were the artists, the scientists, the artisans, the poets, the doctors,
    the engineers, and that they were all oppressed and wiped out by the Thals?

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner

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