According to https://seattlein2025.org/2025/04/30/statement-from-worldcon-chair-2/
the upcoming Worldcon has used ChatGPT to vet its program participants.

I'm encouraged by the fact that there were more than a hundred
responses to that statement, and every one of them was negative. Some
because ChatGPT is infamous for "hallucinating," i.e. making stuff up
out of thin air. And some because ChatGPT was programmed using the
works of professional writers, incuding would-be Worldcon program
participants, without their permission. Several of the commenters
said that they are canceling their membership for this reason.

I recommend that anyone thinking of attending read that statement and
all of the responses.

I will not be attending.

I'm puzzled by the growing divide between the people who run large
cons and fandom in general.
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On 16/05/2025 22:26, Keith F. Lynch wrote:

According to https://seattlein2025.org/2025/04/30/statement-from-worldcon-chair-2/
the upcoming Worldcon has used ChatGPT to vet its program participants.

I'm encouraged by the fact that there were more than a hundred
responses to that statement, and every one of them was negative. Some because ChatGPT is infamous for "hallucinating," i.e. making stuff up
out of thin air. And some because ChatGPT was programmed using the
works of professional writers, incuding would-be Worldcon program

Professional writers? You mean the woke ones that write like uneducated children?

No one needs any writer's permission to read their work, not even
ChatGPT. What the creators of ChatGPT should have done is paid the
copyright holders to buy the texts to begin with at the current market
price, about $2-$12 per eBook, rather than downloading them from sites PirateBay for nothing in order to train their LLM. Of course the woke
perverts want more than the cover price for ChatGPT to read their works
and that is totally unjustifiable. You can't charge readers a different
price to buy your work depending on who they are.

participants, without their permission. Several of the commenters
said that they are canceling their membership for this reason.

Everyone should boycott all of these conventions for allowing
hypocritical woke bigots to take part in them in the first place.

I recommend that anyone thinking of attending read that statement and
all of the responses.

I will not be attending.

I'm puzzled by the growing divide between the people who run large
cons and fandom in general.

Get Woke, Go Broke is the message the conventions need to learn.

--
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"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner

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On 17/05/2025 11:52, Daniel70 wrote:

On 17/05/2025 9:05 am, The True Doctor wrote:

On 16/05/2025 22:26, Keith F. Lynch wrote:

According to
https://seattlein2025.org/2025/04/30/statement-from-worldcon-chair-2/
the upcoming Worldcon has used ChatGPT to vet its program participants.

I'm encouraged by the fact that there were more than a hundred
responses to that statement, and every one of them was negative.ÿ Some
because ChatGPT is infamous for "hallucinating," i.e. making stuff up
out of thin air.ÿ And some because ChatGPT was programmed using the
works of professional writers, incuding would-be Worldcon program

Professional writers? You mean the woke ones that write like
uneducated children?

No one needs any writer's permission to read their work, not even
ChatGPT. What the creators of ChatGPT should have done is paid the
copyright holders to buy the texts to begin with at the current market
price, about $2-$12 per eBook, rather than downloading them from sites
PirateBay for nothing in order to train their LLM. Of course the woke
perverts want more than the cover price for ChatGPT to read their
works and that is totally unjustifiable. You can't charge readers a
different price to buy your work depending on who they are.

Except a (human) reader might read the story a very few times whereas ChatGPT might use the work over and over and over again.

So can a human. How do you think people learn to read and write their
own stories without repeatedly copying what they've read and rewriting
it in a different way, which is exactly what ChatGPT does.

--
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"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner

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On 17/05/2025 13:44, The Doctor wrote:

In article <1009ppp$bsqh$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

On 17/05/2025 9:05 am, The True Doctor wrote:

On 16/05/2025 22:26, Keith F. Lynch wrote:

According to
https://seattlein2025.org/2025/04/30/statement-from-worldcon-chair-2/
the upcoming Worldcon has used ChatGPT to vet its program participants. >>>>
I'm encouraged by the fact that there were more than a hundred
responses to that statement, and every one of them was negative.ÿ Some >>>> because ChatGPT is infamous for "hallucinating," i.e. making stuff up
out of thin air.ÿ And some because ChatGPT was programmed using the
works of professional writers, incuding would-be Worldcon program

Professional writers? You mean the woke ones that write like uneducated
children?

No one needs any writer's permission to read their work, not even
ChatGPT. What the creators of ChatGPT should have done is paid the
copyright holders to buy the texts to begin with at the current market
price, about $2-$12 per eBook, rather than downloading them from sites
PirateBay for nothing in order to train their LLM. Of course the woke
perverts want more than the cover price for ChatGPT to read their works
and that is totally unjustifiable. You can't charge readers a different
price to buy your work depending on who they are.

Except a (human) reader might read the story a very few times whereas
ChatGPT might use the work over and over and over again.

Every used ChatGPT Dannyboy?

We all know that's what you use to write your reviews for you.

--
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"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner

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The True Doctor wrote:

On 17/05/2025 13:44, The Doctor wrote:

Every used ChatGPT Dannyboy?

We all know that's what you use to write your reviews for you.

It's not that he does, it's why does he?

Nobody cares what an algorithm thinks of a Doctor Who episode.



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Keith F. Lynch wrote:

According to

https://seattlein2025.org/2025/04/30/statement-from-worldcon-chair-2/

the upcoming Worldcon has used ChatGPT to vet its program
participants.

The whole world seems to be using Chap-GPT or similar AI-LLM
algorithms to write things... even on RADW we have someone
posting reviews of Doctor Who episodes that are artificially
written by Chat-GPT/Google Gemini. I mean, how lame is that?

I'm encouraged by the fact that there were more than a hundred
responses to that statement, and every one of them was
negative. Some because ChatGPT is infamous for
"hallucinating," i.e. making stuff up out of thin air. And
some because ChatGPT was programmed using the works of
professional writers, incuding would-be Worldcon program
participants, without their permission. Several of the
commenters said that they are canceling their membership for
this reason.

I recommend that anyone thinking of attending read that
statement and all of the responses.

I will not be attending.

I'm puzzled by the growing divide between the people who run
large cons and fandom in general.

Puzzled, but surely not surprised? Sometimes the uber-fans that
run some cons think it's all about them and the rest of us are
just plebs.

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On 18/05/2025 18:02, Blueshirt wrote:

Keith F. Lynch wrote:

According to

https://seattlein2025.org/2025/04/30/statement-from-worldcon-chair-2/

the upcoming Worldcon has used ChatGPT to vet its program
participants.

The whole world seems to be using Chap-GPT or similar AI-LLM
algorithms to write things... even on RADW we have someone
posting reviews of Doctor Who episodes that are artificially
written by Chat-GPT/Google Gemini. I mean, how lame is that?

Less lame than something written by a clueless politically motivated DEI
hire encouraging children to commit terrorist acts and to torture and
murder other people they don't agree with.

I'm encouraged by the fact that there were more than a hundred
responses to that statement, and every one of them was
negative. Some because ChatGPT is infamous for
"hallucinating," i.e. making stuff up out of thin air. And
some because ChatGPT was programmed using the works of
professional writers, incuding would-be Worldcon program
participants, without their permission. Several of the
commenters said that they are canceling their membership for
this reason.

I recommend that anyone thinking of attending read that
statement and all of the responses.

I will not be attending.

I'm puzzled by the growing divide between the people who run
large cons and fandom in general.

Puzzled, but surely not surprised? Sometimes the uber-fans that
run some cons think it's all about them and the rest of us are
just plebs.

You mean fan hating woke perverts like Russell T Davies that think the
show should all be about them.

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The True Doctor wrote:

You mean fan hating woke perverts like Russell T Davies that
think the show should all be about them.

In fairness, the show should be about the Executive Producer's
vision... as that's how any show gets its direction. We can
choose to like it or not like it, but it will always be the
showrunner's viewpoint that dictates the way any show goes
forward, especially if they are also writing most of the scripts.

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On 18/05/2025 21:10, Blueshirt wrote:

The True Doctor wrote:

You mean fan hating woke perverts like Russell T Davies that
think the show should all be about them.

In fairness, the show should be about the Executive Producer's
vision... as that's how any show gets its direction. We can
choose to like it or not like it, but it will always be the
showrunner's viewpoint that dictates the way any show goes
forward, especially if they are also writing most of the scripts.

Executive producers are to deal with a shows funding and how to
spending. They are not there to promoted their viewpoint.

RTD has made the entire show about himself and his disgusting, sexist,
racist, and bigoted politics and ideology.

The purpose of a writer is to maintain the views, character and ideas of
the original creators based the show on, not their own views, character,
and ideas, but perfect ideal forms. Woke perverted writers such as RTD
and Chibnall don't understand this. All these disgusting activists are interested is in creating a flashy vessel to contain their sicking
message to attract unsuspecting viewers to it. All these perverts care
about is the one-sided message, not entertaining people. Their ideology
comes straight out of the handbooks of Stalin, Hitler, and Chairman Mao.

--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner

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