It is plain to see that Dr Who is on a downward spiral, dying
a slow death in front of our very eyes. Is the man that gave
life to Dr Who twenty years ago also responsible for the death
of Dr Who or can we point the finger at society in general and
changing viewer habits?
In article <vu059q$1erc7$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
Or might it be that 'we' were just sooooo happy to seen
'Doctor Who' (any 'Doctor Who') back that we watched what
was really garbage, and 'we' accepted it??
RTD is out of ideas.
In article <9ffc42beb75201986df674c8973032f6@www.novabbs.com>,
Theory11 <card.master@bee92.invalid.com> wrote:
It is plain to see that Dr Who is on a downward spiral,
dying a slow death in front of our very eyes. Is the man
that gave life to Dr Who twenty years ago also responsible
for the death of Dr Who or can we point the finger at
society in general and changing viewer habits?
For 2 reasons
A) The Timeless Child needs to be retconned!
B) RTD is not coming up with a new formula.
In article <sONMP.1433035$dBr6.587948@fx04.ams4>,
Hornplayer9599 <Hornplayer9599@aol.com> wrote:
On 4/19/2025 08:23, Blueshirt wrote:
RTD has his ideas and - right or wrong - he will stick to them no
matter what complaints the fans or YouTube agitators make...
And that would get RTD a pyrrhic victory at best.
Reminds me of the occasional county fair(s) where a radio station runs a
promotion where someone can win a brand new car. The catch is the
contestants have to put their hand on the car, and if they remove their
hand, they lose. So the contest starts with 10-15 people putting their
hand on the car in hopes of being the last one to remove their hand.
The car has been sitting in the hot sun all day, and the metal is
scorching hot. People will put their hand on the car in spite of the
intense heat of the metal, and keep it there, because "I got to win me a
new car"....all the time the flesh on their hand is burning.
Ultimately if the show doesn't get enough people viewing it on
BBC1/Disney+ it will die... if people don't like modern "Doctor
Who" switch it off and let nature take it's course.
Agreed.
New showrunner without RTD connectionis.
--
Intelligence is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
--Carl Sagan
In article <xn0p4qla386wezf002@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
A) The Timeless Child needs to be retconned!
At a guess, the majority of people watching "Doctor Who"
don't give a damn about the Timeless Child and a lot of
those that it did bother have stopped watching.
B) RTD is not coming up with a new formula.
What new formula would you like to see Dave... beyond
retconning the Timeless Child obviously?
That could bring back Gallifrey and the TimeLords.
In article <xn0p4qkjv85ufi9002@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Ultimately if the show doesn't get enough people viewing it
on BBC1/Disney+ it will die... if people don't like modern
"Doctor Who" switch it off and let nature take it's course.
Get someone with fresh ideas, Maybe AGA and SP to be
co-showrunners!
It is plain to see that Dr Who is on a downward spiral, dying a slow
death in front of our very eyes. Is the man that gave life to Dr Who
twenty years ago also responsible for the death of Dr Who or can we
point the finger at society in general and changing viewer habits?
In article <xn0p4qpay8cak58002@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
Get someone with fresh ideas, Maybe AGA and SP to be
co-showrunners!
I reckon the "RADW Sensibles" triumvirate of SP, Mike and
Horny would do a better job...
Sounds like that might not work. We want Retcon the Timeless
child!
Theory11 wrote:
It is plain to see that Dr Who is on a downward spiral, dying
a slow death in front of our very eyes. Is the man that gave
life to Dr Who twenty years ago also responsible for the death
of Dr Who or can we point the finger at society in general and
changing viewer habits?
Pre-"Lux" my take is that expectation is killing "Doctor Who".
Just as the natural course of life for humans means death, TV
shows cannot go on forever either. How does any showrunner keep
the show fresh in 2025?
RTD is not perfect, and he'd probably accept that himself... but
he is not a miracle maker either. Fans were unhappy with "Doctor
Who" long before he returned to the show, or Disney's
partnership with the BBC even.
No TV show could live up to the expectation that the long term
fans put on the show. Every fan wants it to be a TV show made to
suit them and that's not possible, no matter who the Executive
Producer of the show is. It's quite possible that "Doctor Who"
just needs a rest like it did in 1989?
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p4qkjv85ufi9002@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Ultimately if the show doesn't get enough people viewing it
on BBC1/Disney+ it will die... if people don't like modern
"Doctor Who" switch it off and let nature take it's course.
Get someone with fresh ideas, Maybe AGA and SP to be
co-showrunners!
I reckon the "RADW Sensibles" triumvirate of SP, Mike and
Horny would do a better job...
Sensible? Me? No, I’m only sensible compared to Yads and Aggy.
In any other group I’d be the weird one!
On 20/04/2025 8:54 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
On 20/04/2025 2:21 am, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
Get someone with fresh ideas, Maybe AGA and SP to be
co-showrunners!
I reckon the "RADW Sensibles" triumvirate of SP, Mike and
Horny would do a better job...
;-) You Bastard!! ;-) Fancy leaving ME off that list .....
even IF I've seen bugger all of DisneyWho! ;-)
You could be the BBC1 controller and your job would be to
commission murder mystery drama shows... Agatha Christie
adaptations especially!
Sounds fair. What's my Wage/Salary gunna be??
On 21/04/2025 6:43 am, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
On 20/04/2025 8:54 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
You could be the BBC1 controller and your job would be to
commission murder mystery drama shows... Agatha Christie
adaptations especially!
Sounds fair. What's my Wage/Salary gunna be??
It's a voluntary position... your reward will be to see
quality crime drama reach the TV screen.
AH!! So Vera Repeats!! Morse repeats. Shakespear and Hathaway
repeats. Midsomer Murders repeats.
Job Done .... just send me my cheques!!
Daniel70 wrote:
On 21/04/2025 6:43 am, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
On 20/04/2025 8:54 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Sounds fair. What's my Wage/Salary gunna be??
You could be the BBC1 controller and your job would be to
commission murder mystery drama shows... Agatha Christie
adaptations especially!
It's a voluntary position... your reward will be to see
quality crime drama reach the TV screen.
AH!! So Vera Repeats!! Morse repeats. Shakespear and Hathaway
repeats. Midsomer Murders repeats.
Morse could do with a reboot alright;
John Thaw has been dead over twenty years! A new series of those
adaptations would be worth commissioning.
Midsomer Murders with John Nettles (The REAL Inspector
Barnaby!) should be on permanent repeat cycle...
Whilst Shakespeare & Hathaway wouldn't be my idea of a quality
crime show... it's more of a comedy crime drama.
Job Done .... just send me my cheques!!
What part of voluntary did you not get?
How about an adaptation of Agatha Christie’s ‘The Mysterious
Mr. Quinn’ with David Tennant playing a very Doctorish
version of the title character. The idea is suggesting that
Christie might’ve based him on her subconscious memory of
meeting the Doctor in ‘The Unicorn and the Wasp.’
Or is that just too meta?
On 22/04/2025 6:03 am, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
On 21/04/2025 6:43 am, Blueshirt wrote:
your reward will be to see quality crime
drama reach the TV screen.
AH!! So Vera Repeats!! Morse repeats. Shakespear and
Hathaway repeats. Midsomer Murders repeats.
Morse could do with a reboot alright; John Thaw has been dead
over twenty years! A new series of those adaptations would be
worth commissioning.
Morse reboot?? Wasn't that, effectively, what 'Lewis' was??
Midsomer Murders with John Nettles (The REAL Inspector
Barnaby!) should be on permanent repeat cycle...
But the cousin had the 'better' Wife!! Not great, but better.
On 22/04/2025 9:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
On 22/04/2025 6:03 am, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
On 21/04/2025 6:43 am, Blueshirt wrote:
your reward will be to see quality crime
drama reach the TV screen.
AH!! So Vera Repeats!! Morse repeats. Shakespear and
Hathaway repeats. Midsomer Murders repeats.
Morse could do with a reboot alright; John Thaw has been dead
over twenty years! A new series of those adaptations would be
worth commissioning.
Morse reboot?? Wasn't that, effectively, what 'Lewis' was??
No, I meant more modern adaptations of the Colin Dexter books...
"Lewis" and "Endeavour" were just spin-offs from "Inspector
Morse" using some of the characters. The stories were original
screenplays, not Colin Dexter 'Morse' stories.
Some Agatha Christie books have had multiple television
adaptations, why not Dexter's Inspector Morse?
Midsomer Murders with John Nettles (The REAL Inspector
Barnaby!) should be on permanent repeat cycle...
But the cousin had the 'better' Wife!! Not great, but better.
I preferred the original Barnaby's daughter Cully, to the
wife...
Ah!! Well ..... but when did we ever see her?? Not enough.
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