The Doctor wrote:
RTD not retconning the Timeless Child is the ultimate recipe
for toxic fandom.
Parts of Doctor Who fandom have been toxic long before the
Timeless Child was thought of...
Pretending it only happened in 2017 is revisionism.
In article <v47u1j$lf9s$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
RTD not retconning the Timeless Child is the ultimate
recipe for toxic fandom.
Parts of Doctor Who fandom have been toxic long before the
Timeless Child was thought of...
Pretending it only happened in 2017 is revisionism.
The sort of people who rant “Retcon the Timeless Child” and
“Doctor Who ended in 2017” and similar stuff, instead of
either walking away or finding things still to enjoy about
the show, ARE the toxic fandom.
Says a toxic fan.
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
RTD not retconning the Timeless Child is the ultimate recipe
for toxic fandom.
Parts of Doctor Who fandom have been toxic long before the
Timeless Child was thought of...
Pretending it only happened in 2017 is revisionism.
The sort of people who rant “Retcon the Timeless Child” and
“Doctor Who ended in 2017” and similar stuff, instead of
either walking away or finding things still to enjoy about the
show, ARE the toxic fandom.
The Doctor wrote:
RTD not retconning the Timeless Child is the ultimate recipe
for toxic fandom.
Parts of Doctor Who fandom have been toxic long before the
Timeless Child was thought of...
Pretending it only happened in 2017 is revisionism.
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
RTD not retconning the Timeless Child is the ultimate recipe
for toxic fandom.
Parts of Doctor Who fandom have been toxic long before the
Timeless Child was thought of...
Pretending it only happened in 2017 is revisionism.
The sort of people who rant “Retcon the Timeless Child” and “Doctor Who ended in 2017” and similar stuff, instead of either walking away or finding things still to enjoy about the show, ARE the toxic fandom.
The Last Doctor wrote:
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
RTD not retconning the Timeless Child is the ultimate recipe
for toxic fandom.
Parts of Doctor Who fandom have been toxic long before the
Timeless Child was thought of...
Pretending it only happened in 2017 is revisionism.
The sort of people who rant “Retcon the Timeless Child” and
“Doctor Who ended in 2017” and similar stuff, instead of
either walking away or finding things still to enjoy about the
show, ARE the toxic fandom.
They can't walk away Mike, they have to watch is so nobody else
has to. They are providing a service for fandom. The people on
YouTube even agree with them. So we must be the ones doing
something wrong!
The Doctor wrote:
In article <v47u1j$lf9s$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
RTD not retconning the Timeless Child is the ultimate
recipe for toxic fandom.
Parts of Doctor Who fandom have been toxic long before the
Timeless Child was thought of...
Pretending it only happened in 2017 is revisionism.
The sort of people who rant “Retcon the Timeless Child” and
“Doctor Who ended in 2017” and similar stuff, instead of
either walking away or finding things still to enjoy about
the show, ARE the toxic fandom.
Says a toxic fan.
Says a fan. You know, the people who try and see the best about
a TV programme they like and don't spend the entire episode
hating and looking for agendas and [non-existent] sexual
grooming messages...
The Timeless Child is going nowhere, you'd want to start getting
used to it... move on.
RTD not retconning the Timeless Child is the ultimate recipe for
toxic fandom.
On 10/06/2024 23:11, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
RTD not retconning the Timeless Child is the ultimate
recipe for toxic fandom.
Parts of Doctor Who fandom have been toxic long before the
Timeless Child was thought of...
Pretending it only happened in 2017 is revisionism.
It happened at the end of Series 8 when Moffat turned the
Master into a woman, insulted the memory of Nicholas Courtney
by turning the Brigadier into a Cyberman, and turned the
series woke. The ratings collapsed in half immediately
afterwards, and there's no bullshit excuses like people
turning to streaming.
On 11/06/2024 01:43, Blueshirt wrote:
Says a fan. You know, the people who try and see the best
about a TV programme they like and don't spend the entire
episode hating and looking for agendas and [non-existent]
sexual grooming messages...
Non-existent? Gatwa was written as a common slut and made to
kiss another man. And you say that's non existent?
The Timeless Child is going nowhere, you'd want to start
getting used to it... move on.
DOCTOR WHO IS DEAD!
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0omxhmdara3wn005@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Timeless Child is going nowhere, you'd want to start
getting used to it... move on.
The Timeless Child deserved to be rubbished!
Yes it did. BUT... it was still part of the show.
The McCoy era deserved to be rubbished, BUT... it was still part
of the show.
Like any long running TV show Doctor Who has been good, average
and bad... that's the way it goes. But even so, it's ALL Doctor
Who.
That's the point that YOU are not getting.
The True Doctor wrote:
On 11/06/2024 01:43, Blueshirt wrote:
Says a fan. You know, the people who try and see the best
about a TV programme they like and don't spend the entire
episode hating and looking for agendas and [non-existent]
sexual grooming messages...
Non-existent? Gatwa was written as a common slut and made to
kiss another man. And you say that's non existent?
That's called emotional drama, and while I thought that
'relationship' happened rather quickly I don't believe it was
written to sexually groom children. You have to have a twisted
mentality to think that way.
The Timeless Child is going nowhere, you'd want to start
getting used to it... move on.
DOCTOR WHO IS DEAD!
To you maybe, but then again, you still watch it EVERY WEEK, so
obviously it's not! So all you are posting is hyperbole.
Your Name wrote:
On 2024-06-11 19:26:32 +0000, Blueshirt said:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0omxhmdara3wn005@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Timeless Child is going nowhere, you'd want to start
getting used to it... move on.
The Timeless Child deserved to be rubbished!
Yes it did. BUT... it was still part of the show.
The McCoy era deserved to be rubbished, BUT... it was still
part of the show.
Like any long running TV show Doctor Who has been good,
average and bad... that's the way it goes. But even so, it's
ALL Doctor Who.
Yes and no.
Although "reboots" do usually re-use the same or similar names
and are echnically in the same franchise, they are in reality
completely different shows. The most obvious example being
"Battlestar Galactica" - there's the real Glen Larson original
version, then the horrible "Galactica 1980" version, and then
there's the awful Moore-Ron "reboot" version. (There is also a
planned movie version which will be different again, and an
even sillier planned movie that will somehow supposedly link
the two very different versions while ignoring "Galactica
1980").
The problem with Doctor Who is that the main character's
ability to regenerate so they can replace the actor, makes it
harder to spot the "reboot" attempts. The gender-swapping and
now race-swapping are two of the more blatant "reboot"
attempts within Doctor Who franchise, mainly to appease the
Politically Correct / Equality brigade ... because as we all
"know", there were never any female nor black actors on TV
shows before about 2010, :-\
"Reboots" are never a good idea, and simply a sign that the
creator doesn't really know what to do. Another term covering
a simialr sudden change is often "jumping ths shark", named
after an episode of the US sitcom "Happy Days" when they
decided to make big changes to the format becauser they had
run out of sensibly fitting ideas.
I know the eras of Doctor Who are vastly different but I don't
look at Doctor Who post 2005 (or 2023 onwards even) as reboots
per se, as the Doctor numbering continues... so for me they are
just jumping on points for potential new fans.
Had RTD in 2005 started again with a new First Doctor, then yes,
I would have viewed that as a full reboot. But as it was,
calling Christopher Eccleston the Ninth Doctor meant us older
fans of the show could just envisage it as a continuation.
Battlestar Galactica OTOH... no, we won't even go there!!! :-(
On 6/12/2024 01:27, Your Name wrote:
The Doctor numbering continues mainly because that's a fan-based thing
... has the numbering ever been mentioned in-show??
I think Peter Davidson (in character) mentioned in "The Five Doctors"
that he was the fourth regeneration of the Doctor.
On 2024-06-11 23:42:39 +0000, Blueshirt said:
I know the eras of Doctor Who are vastly different but I
don't look at Doctor Who post 2005 (or 2023 onwards even) as
reboots per se, as the Doctor numbering continues... so for
me they are just jumping on points for potential new fans.
Had RTD in 2005 started again with a new First Doctor, then
yes, I would have viewed that as a full reboot. But as it
was, calling Christopher Eccleston the Ninth Doctor meant us
older fans of the show could just envisage it as a
continuation.
The Doctor numbering continues mainly because that's a
fan-based thing ... has the numbering ever been mentioned
in-show??
The season numbering has definitely restarted twice at 1 again.
The True Doctor wrote:
On 10/06/2024 23:11, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
RTD not retconning the Timeless Child is the ultimate
recipe for toxic fandom.
Parts of Doctor Who fandom have been toxic long before the
Timeless Child was thought of...
Pretending it only happened in 2017 is revisionism.
It happened at the end of Series 8 when Moffat turned the
Master into a woman, insulted the memory of Nicholas Courtney
by turning the Brigadier into a Cyberman, and turned the
series woke. The ratings collapsed in half immediately
afterwards, and there's no bullshit excuses like people
turning to streaming.
So... why don't you say Doctor Who finished in 2014 then?
You tolerated a female Master but drew the line at a female
Doctor. Was that a pair of tits too far?
The True loon lost track of how to type:
On 11/06/2024 19:59, Blueshirt wrote:
You tolerated a female Master but drew the line at a female
Doctor. Was that a pair of tits too far?
The Timeless Child was a monster to far. The get rid of it everything
from Whittaker onwards has to go completely.
Have you been taking typing lessons from the idiot?
In article <v4hdjc$2sj6e$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 11/06/2024 19:59, Blueshirt wrote:
So... why don't you say Doctor Who finished in 2014 then?
You tolerated a female Master but drew the line at a female
Doctor. Was that a pair of tits too far?
The Timeless Child was a monster to far. The get rid of it
everything from Whittaker onwards has to go completely.
Retcon the Timeless Child in full!
In article <xn0on2hxkg4f0pb002@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <v4hdjc$2sj6e$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
Retcon the Timeless Child in full!
The Timeless Child was a monster to far. The get rid of it
everything from Whittaker onwards has to go completely.
Again, it's not going to happen... so lower your
expectations.
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