• one up laptop

    From Daniel@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 20 11:30:01 2025
    Has anyone here looked at, or purchased, a one up rpi laptop? I've
    read a few reviews of it and, while it appears to be a solid product,
    I'm a bit turned off by the cooling fan next to the heat sync. Is that
    fan absolutely necessary for users never intending on overclocking the
    cpu? The laptop currently in use has an Intel Pentium N3540 and is
    typically idle because the majority of work is on a pi3b+ via
    ssh. Looking to replace it. The CPU is typically idle and memory
    utiliation is roughly ten percent.

    One attractive feature that attracted me to the platform is fanless
    operation. And considering the age of the platform, I am new at
    this. The decision to transition to pi computing has been the biggest
    and best decision I've made since early adult years. I'd like a pi
    laptop but would like a fanless operation at the same time.

    What say you all?

    D


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  • From Daniel James@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 20 09:26:11 2025
    On 20/10/2025 00:13, Daniel wrote:
    I'm a bit turned off by the cooling fan next to the heat sync. Is that
    fan absolutely necessary for users never intending on overclocking the
    cpu?

    I don't know.

    The production laptop isn't expected to be available until late
    November/early December, so nobody really knows how well the cooling
    solution will work in practice.

    ... but if I had to guess ...

    It uses a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 5, in a fairly confined space, so
    not much natural airflow. The general consensus of opinion is that a CM5
    does need a fan unless its workload is trivial. I expect the laptop's
    fan won't come on until the temperature passes some threshhold (I have
    an Argon One case for a Pi4, and that has a fan that works in this way)
    but I would expect it to be necessary when the machine is under load.

    --
    Cheers,
    Daniel.

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  • From Pancho@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 20 10:39:21 2025
    On 10/20/25 00:13, Daniel wrote:
    Has anyone here looked at, or purchased, a one up rpi laptop? I've
    read a few reviews of it and, while it appears to be a solid product,
    I'm a bit turned off by the cooling fan next to the heat sync. Is that
    fan absolutely necessary for users never intending on overclocking the
    cpu? The laptop currently in use has an Intel Pentium N3540 and is
    typically idle because the majority of work is on a pi3b+ via
    ssh. Looking to replace it. The CPU is typically idle and memory
    utiliation is roughly ten percent.

    One attractive feature that attracted me to the platform is fanless operation. And considering the age of the platform, I am new at
    this. The decision to transition to pi computing has been the biggest
    and best decision I've made since early adult years. I'd like a pi
    laptop but would like a fanless operation at the same time.


    Just because it has a fan, doesn't mean it will be on all the time. I
    have an rPI5 with an Active Cooler. The fan only comes on during hot
    days (maybe ambient > 22C) and high CPU. Presumably the laptop compute
    module CPU is similar.


    However, it looks a bit pricey, I would get a second hand laptop, instead.


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  • From Daniel@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 21 06:30:02 2025
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> writes:

    Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> writes:

    On 20/10/2025 00:13, Daniel wrote:
    I'm a bit turned off by the cooling fan next to the heat sync. Is that
    fan absolutely necessary for users never intending on overclocking the
    cpu?

    I don't know.

    The production laptop isn't expected to be available until late
    November/early December, so nobody really knows how well the cooling
    solution will work in practice.

    ... but if I had to guess ...

    It uses a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 5, in a fairly confined space,
    so not much natural airflow. The general consensus of opinion is that
    a CM5 does need a fan unless its workload is trivial. I expect the
    laptop's fan won't come on until the temperature passes some
    threshhold (I have an Argon One case for a Pi4, and that has a fan
    that works in this way) but I would expect it to be necessary when the
    machine is under load.

    Thanks. I will wait until the device has hit the wild and await
    reviews. I saw reviews already but it was tech youtubers who got a preproduction model.

    I'd be interested in the keyboard quality. Can't be worse than the
    pi400's.

    The argon 40 studio put up a youtube prototyping vid of the build. Nice
    rig.

    https://da.gd/4QK0N

    If you dont trust shortened url's, check youtube for

    Behind the Build: Prototyping the Argon ONE UP

    D

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  • From Chris Townley@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 20 17:01:25 2025
    On 20/10/2025 16:24, Daniel wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> writes:

    Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> writes:

    On 20/10/2025 00:13, Daniel wrote:
    I'm a bit turned off by the cooling fan next to the heat sync. Is that >>>> fan absolutely necessary for users never intending on overclocking the >>>> cpu?

    I don't know.

    The production laptop isn't expected to be available until late
    November/early December, so nobody really knows how well the cooling
    solution will work in practice.

    ... but if I had to guess ...

    It uses a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 5, in a fairly confined space,
    so not much natural airflow. The general consensus of opinion is that
    a CM5 does need a fan unless its workload is trivial. I expect the
    laptop's fan won't come on until the temperature passes some
    threshhold (I have an Argon One case for a Pi4, and that has a fan
    that works in this way) but I would expect it to be necessary when the
    machine is under load.

    Thanks. I will wait until the device has hit the wild and await
    reviews. I saw reviews already but it was tech youtubers who got a
    preproduction model.

    I'd be interested in the keyboard quality. Can't be worse than the
    pi400's.

    The argon 40 studio put up a youtube prototyping vid of the build. Nice
    rig.

    https://da.gd/4QK0N

    If you dont trust shortened url's, check youtube for

    Behind the Build: Prototyping the Argon ONE UP

    D

    I wouldn't trust anything from Argon40 again

    --
    Chris

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  • From Pancho@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 20 17:29:38 2025
    On 10/20/25 16:24, Daniel wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> writes:

    Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> writes:

    On 20/10/2025 00:13, Daniel wrote:
    I'm a bit turned off by the cooling fan next to the heat sync. Is that >>>> fan absolutely necessary for users never intending on overclocking the >>>> cpu?

    I don't know.

    The production laptop isn't expected to be available until late
    November/early December, so nobody really knows how well the cooling
    solution will work in practice.

    ... but if I had to guess ...

    It uses a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 5, in a fairly confined space,
    so not much natural airflow. The general consensus of opinion is that
    a CM5 does need a fan unless its workload is trivial. I expect the
    laptop's fan won't come on until the temperature passes some
    threshhold (I have an Argon One case for a Pi4, and that has a fan
    that works in this way) but I would expect it to be necessary when the
    machine is under load.

    Thanks. I will wait until the device has hit the wild and await
    reviews. I saw reviews already but it was tech youtubers who got a
    preproduction model.

    I'd be interested in the keyboard quality. Can't be worse than the
    pi400's.

    The argon 40 studio put up a youtube prototyping vid of the build. Nice
    rig.

    https://da.gd/4QK0N

    If you dont trust shortened url's, check youtube for

    Behind the Build: Prototyping the Argon ONE UP

    D

    Thx, It looks as if they don't have a heat sync on the compute module. I
    would have thought it made sense to use the aluminium case as a heat
    sync rather than have a fan.

    Any ideas why they would design it like that?

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  • From Daniel@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 21 06:30:02 2025
    Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> writes:

    On 20/10/2025 00:13, Daniel wrote:
    I'm a bit turned off by the cooling fan next to the heat sync. Is that
    fan absolutely necessary for users never intending on overclocking the
    cpu?

    I don't know.

    The production laptop isn't expected to be available until late November/early December, so nobody really knows how well the cooling
    solution will work in practice.

    ... but if I had to guess ...

    It uses a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 5, in a fairly confined space,
    so not much natural airflow. The general consensus of opinion is that
    a CM5 does need a fan unless its workload is trivial. I expect the
    laptop's fan won't come on until the temperature passes some
    threshhold (I have an Argon One case for a Pi4, and that has a fan
    that works in this way) but I would expect it to be necessary when the machine is under load.

    Thanks. I will wait until the device has hit the wild and await
    reviews. I saw reviews already but it was tech youtubers who got a preproduction model.

    I'd be interested in the keyboard quality. Can't be worse than the
    pi400's.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Daniel@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 21 10:00:01 2025
    Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> writes:

    On 10/20/25 16:24, Daniel wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> writes:

    Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> writes:

    On 20/10/2025 00:13, Daniel wrote:
    I'm a bit turned off by the cooling fan next to the heat sync. Is that >>>>> fan absolutely necessary for users never intending on overclocking the >>>>> cpu?

    I don't know.

    The production laptop isn't expected to be available until late
    November/early December, so nobody really knows how well the cooling
    solution will work in practice.

    ... but if I had to guess ...

    It uses a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 5, in a fairly confined space,
    so not much natural airflow. The general consensus of opinion is that
    a CM5 does need a fan unless its workload is trivial. I expect the
    laptop's fan won't come on until the temperature passes some
    threshhold (I have an Argon One case for a Pi4, and that has a fan
    that works in this way) but I would expect it to be necessary when the >>>> machine is under load.

    Thanks. I will wait until the device has hit the wild and await
    reviews. I saw reviews already but it was tech youtubers who got a
    preproduction model.

    I'd be interested in the keyboard quality. Can't be worse than the
    pi400's.
    The argon 40 studio put up a youtube prototyping vid of the
    build. Nice
    rig.
    https://da.gd/4QK0N
    If you dont trust shortened url's, check youtube for
    Behind the Build: Prototyping the Argon ONE UP
    D

    Thx, It looks as if they don't have a heat sync on the compute
    module. I would have thought it made sense to use the aluminium case
    as a heat sync rather than have a fan.

    Any ideas why they would design it like that?

    The rectangular plate screwing into the bottom of the laptop serves as a
    heat sync. IIRC, it's a different alloy than the aluminum case. I wish
    they just made a larger plate and avoid the fan altogether, but that's
    just me.

    Nothing out there makes me fully happy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Chris Townley@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 20 22:52:13 2025
    On 20/10/2025 21:29, Daniel wrote:
    Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> writes:

    On 20/10/2025 16:24, Daniel wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> writes:

    Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> writes:

    On 20/10/2025 00:13, Daniel wrote:
    I'm a bit turned off by the cooling fan next to the heat sync. Is that >>>>>> fan absolutely necessary for users never intending on overclocking the >>>>>> cpu?

    I don't know.

    The production laptop isn't expected to be available until late
    November/early December, so nobody really knows how well the cooling >>>>> solution will work in practice.

    ... but if I had to guess ...

    It uses a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 5, in a fairly confined space, >>>>> so not much natural airflow. The general consensus of opinion is that >>>>> a CM5 does need a fan unless its workload is trivial. I expect the
    laptop's fan won't come on until the temperature passes some
    threshhold (I have an Argon One case for a Pi4, and that has a fan
    that works in this way) but I would expect it to be necessary when the >>>>> machine is under load.

    Thanks. I will wait until the device has hit the wild and await
    reviews. I saw reviews already but it was tech youtubers who got a
    preproduction model.

    I'd be interested in the keyboard quality. Can't be worse than the
    pi400's.
    The argon 40 studio put up a youtube prototyping vid of the
    build. Nice
    rig.
    https://da.gd/4QK0N
    If you dont trust shortened url's, check youtube for
    Behind the Build: Prototyping the Argon ONE UP
    D

    I wouldn't trust anything from Argon40 again


    What happened, if you don't mind my asking?

    I had an Argon One for a Pi4 - great, then when I bought a Pi5 I got
    their V3 plus the NVME connector.

    In principle it is great, but their software install is a pile of
    spaghetti shell script, and doesn?t really work, although I found an alternative that did.

    However their design is flawed, as it uses it's own board that filters
    out a lot of checks. Their support forum is carp - they just don't
    respond to anything.

    I did get it working, but enough grief for me!

    --
    Chris

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5
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  • From Daniel@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 21 10:00:02 2025
    Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> writes:

    On 20/10/2025 16:24, Daniel wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> writes:

    Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> writes:

    On 20/10/2025 00:13, Daniel wrote:
    I'm a bit turned off by the cooling fan next to the heat sync. Is that >>>>> fan absolutely necessary for users never intending on overclocking the >>>>> cpu?

    I don't know.

    The production laptop isn't expected to be available until late
    November/early December, so nobody really knows how well the cooling
    solution will work in practice.

    ... but if I had to guess ...

    It uses a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 5, in a fairly confined space,
    so not much natural airflow. The general consensus of opinion is that
    a CM5 does need a fan unless its workload is trivial. I expect the
    laptop's fan won't come on until the temperature passes some
    threshhold (I have an Argon One case for a Pi4, and that has a fan
    that works in this way) but I would expect it to be necessary when the >>>> machine is under load.

    Thanks. I will wait until the device has hit the wild and await
    reviews. I saw reviews already but it was tech youtubers who got a
    preproduction model.

    I'd be interested in the keyboard quality. Can't be worse than the
    pi400's.
    The argon 40 studio put up a youtube prototyping vid of the
    build. Nice
    rig.
    https://da.gd/4QK0N
    If you dont trust shortened url's, check youtube for
    Behind the Build: Prototyping the Argon ONE UP
    D

    I wouldn't trust anything from Argon40 again


    What happened, if you don't mind my asking?

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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 21 12:30:02 2025
    On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 08:24:12 -0700, Daniel wrote:

    The argon 40 studio put up a youtube prototyping vid of the build. Nice
    rig.

    https://da.gd/4QK0N

    If you dont trust shortened url's ...

    Why not just post a proper link:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op05N_-esY0>

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  • From Chris Elvidge@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 21 12:29:15 2025
    On 20/10/2025 at 21:29, Daniel wrote:
    Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> writes:

    On 10/20/25 16:24, Daniel wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> writes:

    Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> writes:

    On 20/10/2025 00:13, Daniel wrote:
    I'm a bit turned off by the cooling fan next to the heat sync. Is that >>>>>> fan absolutely necessary for users never intending on overclocking the >>>>>> cpu?

    I don't know.

    The production laptop isn't expected to be available until late
    November/early December, so nobody really knows how well the cooling >>>>> solution will work in practice.

    ... but if I had to guess ...

    It uses a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 5, in a fairly confined space, >>>>> so not much natural airflow. The general consensus of opinion is that >>>>> a CM5 does need a fan unless its workload is trivial. I expect the
    laptop's fan won't come on until the temperature passes some
    threshhold (I have an Argon One case for a Pi4, and that has a fan
    that works in this way) but I would expect it to be necessary when the >>>>> machine is under load.

    Thanks. I will wait until the device has hit the wild and await
    reviews. I saw reviews already but it was tech youtubers who got a
    preproduction model.

    I'd be interested in the keyboard quality. Can't be worse than the
    pi400's.
    The argon 40 studio put up a youtube prototyping vid of the
    build. Nice
    rig.
    https://da.gd/4QK0N
    If you dont trust shortened url's, check youtube for
    Behind the Build: Prototyping the Argon ONE UP
    D

    Thx, It looks as if they don't have a heat sync on the compute
    module. I would have thought it made sense to use the aluminium case
    as a heat sync rather than have a fan.

    Any ideas why they would design it like that?

    The rectangular plate screwing into the bottom of the laptop serves as a
    heat sync. IIRC, it's a different alloy than the aluminum case. I wish

    This thread has been annoying me. It's 'heat sink'; sync is short for synchronise.


    they just made a larger plate and avoid the fan altogether, but that's
    just me.

    Nothing out there makes me fully happy.




    --
    Chris Elvidge, England


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