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  • What value should HHH(DD) correctly return?

    From olcott@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Aug 7 04:34:33 2025
    Simulating Termination Analyzer HHH correctly simulates its input until:
    (a) Detects a non-terminating behavior pattern: abort simulation and
    return 0.
    (b) Simulated input reaches its simulated "return" statement: return 1.

    typedef void (*ptr)();
    int HHH(ptr P);

    int DD()
    {
    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
    if (Halt_Status)
    HERE: goto HERE;
    return Halt_Status;
    }

    What value should HHH(DD) correctly return?

    https://claude.ai/share/da9e56ba-f4e9-45ee-9f2c-dc5ffe10f00c

    *Same analysis as a one page PDF* https://www.researchgate.net/publication/394345150_Halting_Problem_Simulation_Paradox

    *Same analysis by ChatGPT* https://chatgpt.com/share/68939ee5-e2f8-8011-837d-438fe8e98b9c

    *Same analysis by Grok* https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMg%3D%3D_810120bb-5ab5-4bf8-af21-eedd0f09e141



    --
    Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
    hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer


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  • From Bonita Montero@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Aug 7 23:14:31 2025
    Am 06.08.2025 um 20:34 schrieb olcott:
    Simulating Termination Analyzer HHH correctly simulates its input until:
    (a) Detects a non-terminating behavior pattern: abort simulation and
    return 0.
    (b) Simulated input reaches its simulated "return" statement: return 1.

    typedef void (*ptr)();
    int HHH(ptr P);

    int DD()
    {
    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
    if (Halt_Status)
    HERE: goto HERE;
    return Halt_Status;
    }

    What value should HHH(DD) correctly return?

    https://claude.ai/share/da9e56ba-f4e9-45ee-9f2c-dc5ffe10f00c

    *Same analysis as a one page PDF*
    https://www.researchgate.net/ publication/394345150_Halting_Problem_Simulation_Paradox

    *Same analysis by ChatGPT* https://chatgpt.com/share/68939ee5-e2f8-8011-837d-438fe8e98b9c

    *Same analysis by Grok* https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMg%3D%3D_810120bb-5ab5-4bf8-af21- eedd0f09e141




    Your question is neither C, nor C++-specific but fits with
    any language. It also doesn't match with comp.ai.philosophy.
    So go back to comp.theory.

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  • From olcott@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Aug 7 23:23:49 2025
    On 8/7/2025 8:14 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
    Am 06.08.2025 um 20:34 schrieb olcott:
    Simulating Termination Analyzer HHH correctly simulates its input until:
    (a) Detects a non-terminating behavior pattern: abort simulation and
    return 0.
    (b) Simulated input reaches its simulated "return" statement: return 1.

    typedef void (*ptr)();
    int HHH(ptr P);

    int DD()
    {
    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
    if (Halt_Status)
    HERE: goto HERE;
    return Halt_Status;
    }

    What value should HHH(DD) correctly return?

    https://claude.ai/share/da9e56ba-f4e9-45ee-9f2c-dc5ffe10f00c

    *Same analysis as a one page PDF*
    https://www.researchgate.net/
    publication/394345150_Halting_Problem_Simulation_Paradox

    *Same analysis by ChatGPT*
    https://chatgpt.com/share/68939ee5-e2f8-8011-837d-438fe8e98b9c

    *Same analysis by Grok*
    https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMg%3D%3D_810120bb-5ab5-4bf8-af21-
    eedd0f09e141




    Your question is neither C, nor C++-specific but fits with
    any language. It also doesn't match with comp.ai.philosophy.
    So go back to comp.theory.

    The philosophical foundation of computer science is an
    aspect of the philosophy of computation.

    --
    Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
    hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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  • From wij@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Aug 7 23:47:19 2025
    On Thu, 2025-08-07 at 15:14 +0200, Bonita Montero wrote:
    Am 06.08.2025 um 20:34 schrieb olcott:
    Simulating Termination Analyzer HHH correctly simulates its input until=
    :
    (a) Detects a non-terminating behavior pattern: abort simulation and=
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    return 0.
    (b) Simulated input reaches its simulated "return" statement: return 1.
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    typedef void (*ptr)();
    int HHH(ptr P);
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    int DD()
    {
    =C2=A0=C2=A0 int Halt_Status =3D HHH(DD);
    =C2=A0=C2=A0 if (Halt_Status)
    =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 HERE: goto HERE;
    =C2=A0=C2=A0 return Halt_Status;
    }
    =20
    What value should HHH(DD) correctly return?

    If HHH(DD) returns 1, DD() does not return
    If HHH(DD) returns 0, DD() returns

    Otherwise, HHH does not return.

    https://claude.ai/share/da9e56ba-f4e9-45ee-9f2c-dc5ffe10f00c
    =20
    *Same analysis as a one page PDF*
    https://www.researchgate.net/=C2=A0 publication/394345150_Halting_Problem_Simulation_Paradox
    =20
    *Same analysis by ChatGPT* https://chatgpt.com/share/68939ee5-e2f8-8011-837d-438fe8e98b9c
    =20
    *Same analysis by Grok* https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMg%3D%3D_810120bb-5ab5-4bf8-af21-=20 eedd0f09e141
    =20
    =20
    =20
    =20
    Your question is neither C, nor C++-specific but fits with
    any language. It also doesn't match with comp.ai.philosophy.
    So go back to comp.theory.


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  • From Bonita Montero@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Aug 8 00:58:21 2025
    Am 07.08.2025 um 15:23 schrieb olcott:
    On 8/7/2025 8:14 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
    Am 06.08.2025 um 20:34 schrieb olcott:
    Simulating Termination Analyzer HHH correctly simulates its input until: >>> (a) Detects a non-terminating behavior pattern: abort simulation and
    return 0.
    (b) Simulated input reaches its simulated "return" statement: return 1.

    typedef void (*ptr)();
    int HHH(ptr P);

    int DD()
    {
    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
    if (Halt_Status)
    HERE: goto HERE;
    return Halt_Status;
    }

    What value should HHH(DD) correctly return?

    https://claude.ai/share/da9e56ba-f4e9-45ee-9f2c-dc5ffe10f00c

    *Same analysis as a one page PDF*
    https://www.researchgate.net/
    publication/394345150_Halting_Problem_Simulation_Paradox

    *Same analysis by ChatGPT*
    https://chatgpt.com/share/68939ee5-e2f8-8011-837d-438fe8e98b9c

    *Same analysis by Grok*
    https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMg%3D%3D_810120bb-5ab5-4bf8-af21-
    eedd0f09e141




    Your question is neither C, nor C++-specific but fits with
    any language. It also doesn't match with comp.ai.philosophy.
    So go back to comp.theory.

    The philosophical foundation of computer science is an
    aspect of the philosophy of computation.

    Your objections have nothing to to with AI.


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