• Everyone makes sure to avoid addressing this exact point

    From olcott@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Mar 12 09:15:57 2025
    typedef void (*ptr)();
    int HHH(ptr P);

    void Infinite_Loop()
    {
    HERE: goto HERE;
    return;
    }

    void Infinite_Recursion()
    {
    Infinite_Recursion();
    return;
    }

    void DDD()
    {
    HHH(DDD);
    return;
    }

    int DD()
    {
    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
    if (Halt_Status)
    HERE: goto HERE;
    return Halt_Status;
    }

    When HHH correctly emulates N steps of the above
    functions none of them can possibly reach their own
    "return" instruction and terminate normally.

    --
    Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
    hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer


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  • From dbush@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Mar 12 09:31:57 2025
    On 3/11/2025 6:15 PM, olcott wrote:
    typedef void (*ptr)();
    int HHH(ptr P);

    void Infinite_Loop()
    {
    ÿ HERE: goto HERE;
    ÿ return;
    }

    void Infinite_Recursion()
    {
    ÿ Infinite_Recursion();
    ÿ return;
    }

    void DDD()
    {
    ÿ HHH(DDD);
    ÿ return;
    }

    int DD()
    {
    ÿ int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
    ÿ if (Halt_Status)
    ÿÿÿ HERE: goto HERE;
    ÿ return Halt_Status;
    }

    When HHH correctly emulates N steps of the above
    functions none of them can possibly reach their own
    "return" instruction and terminate normally.


    Changing the input is not allowed.

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  • From Richard Damon@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Mar 12 09:46:50 2025
    On 3/11/25 6:15 PM, olcott wrote:
    typedef void (*ptr)();
    int HHH(ptr P);

    void Infinite_Loop()
    {
    ÿ HERE: goto HERE;
    ÿ return;
    }

    void Infinite_Recursion()
    {
    ÿ Infinite_Recursion();
    ÿ return;
    }

    void DDD()
    {
    ÿ HHH(DDD);
    ÿ return;
    }

    int DD()
    {
    ÿ int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
    ÿ if (Halt_Status)
    ÿÿÿ HERE: goto HERE;
    ÿ return Halt_Status;
    }

    When HHH correctly emulates N steps of the above
    functions none of them can possibly reach their own
    "return" instruction and terminate normally.


    Which, since your DD isn't a program, and neither is HHH, is an
    impossiblity.

    Your just can't properly emulate N steps of the DD above (unless N is something like 2) as it is IMPOSSIBLE to correctly emulate a call to an underfined in the input function.

    And, if we add that HHH is defined as that it emulates only N steps of
    its input and then returns 0, we see from THAT definition, that HHH
    correctlng emulating that behavior will see DD call HHH(DD) which you
    just defined to return to its caller after emulating N steps, which you
    admit will not see the final state, so the return is 0, and thus it will
    see Halt_Status be set to 0, and then DD retuns 0.

    So, HHH CAN "correctly emulate" the input per your definitions but
    doesn't, and thus gives the wrong answer.

    What else is the correct emution of that input?

    Your problem is that you whole theory is based on yoru FRAUD of
    redefining terms.

    Sorry, you are just proving your utter stupidity.

    Note, the reason we can come up with multiple ways you claim is wrong is because your FRAUD has created an inconsistant system, so it shows contradictory things.





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  • From wij@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Mar 12 09:42:29 2025
    On Tue, 2025-03-11 at 18:31 -0400, dbush wrote:
    On 3/11/2025 6:15 PM, olcott wrote:
    typedef void (*ptr)();
    int HHH(ptr P);
    =20
    void Infinite_Loop()
    {
    =C2=A0=C2=A0 HERE: goto HERE;
    =C2=A0=C2=A0 return;
    }
    =20
    void Infinite_Recursion()
    {
    =C2=A0=C2=A0 Infinite_Recursion();
    =C2=A0=C2=A0 return;
    }
    =20
    void DDD()
    {
    =C2=A0=C2=A0 HHH(DDD);
    =C2=A0=C2=A0 return;
    }
    =20
    int DD()
    {
    =C2=A0=C2=A0 int Halt_Status =3D HHH(DD);
    =C2=A0=C2=A0 if (Halt_Status)
    =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 HERE: goto HERE;
    =C2=A0=C2=A0 return Halt_Status;
    }
    =20
    When HHH correctly emulates N steps of the above
    functions none of them can possibly reach their own
    "return" instruction and terminate normally.
    =20
    =20
    Changing the input is not allowed.

    olcott will change subject 'silently'. Normally, 3 months latter he would
    say I was talking about 'this'. All effort is gone.


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