I see that I had already killfiled you in this newsgroup, but you're
posting under a different email address now.
On 14/02/2025 22:23, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
On 2/14/25 03:48, David Brown wrote:
...
I'm not suggesting that I think any of this mixture is a good idea, but >>>> I don't think making language-change markers is the biggest issue.
I wouldn't dream of trying to create a "Universal Compiler". However,
what little value I see in the concept lies in making it truly
universal. I don't see much value in supporting different languages in
the same file. Putting different languages in different files makes it
trivial, without imposing restrictions on which languages it compiles..
Do I need to explain advantages of inline assembly or embedded SQL?
Or having grammar and semantic actions in a single file?
I think there is certainly value in mixing particular languages in a
file - such as those you mention, or mixing PHP, HTML and JavaScript in
a file for a website. But that is all for specific combinations that
fit together in a natural way and have strong use-cases - it is not a
random mixture. And the different languages are handled by different
tools in different places - the C compiler does not handle the SQL code,
as that is passed on to the database server at runtime. The PHP
interpreter does not handle the JavaScript, it is passed on to the
user's browser.
There is also plenty of value in supporting multiple scripting languages
for a large software system. Big database server or CAD software will
often support scripts, procedures or functions in Python, Perl, Lua, JavaScript, BASIC-like languages or their own specific languages - users
can then write scripts in whatever language suits them.
I don't see much point in mixing such languages within a single file, however.
Of course you want some way to call functions and procedures written in different languages in such a system - but that doesn't need mixing of
the languages, just a common interface system.
There's obvious value in having a compiler (or interpreter, JIT tool,
VM, etc.) modularised and layered, with an aim to making it relatively
easy to write new language frontends and re-use the rest of the system.
And again, cross-language calling is useful. But again, mixing
languages within the one file is rarely going to be of benefit to
anyone, and could quickly be the source of confusion (as well as
complexity of implementation).
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 12:20:08 -0500, Phillip <nntp@fulltermprivacy.com>
wrote:
Actually I was about to sponsor you. After looking at what you have and >>what your trying to do, I've been interested. Yesterday I asked my
lawyer to start drawing up a proposal to sponsor for you for 3 years so >>you could work on this project full time.
Bullshit.
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 14:44:04 -0800, Keith Thompson ><Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr Flibble <leigh@i42.co.uk> writes:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 17:47:12 +0100, David Brown[...]
<david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
I am perfectly aware that this way of marking code is pretty obvious, >>>>and I expect it would be the most common approach people thought about. >>>>But you might well have had other ideas in mind. That's why I /asked/. >>>>There's no need to get rude about it.
Rude? Man up, mate. "Fuck" is the best, most versatile word in the
English language which is why I use it.
/Flibble
Your rudeness has made me lose interest in anything else you might
have to say. Call this "tone policing" if you like. I don't care.
I see that I had already killfiled you in this newsgroup, but you're >>posting under a different email address now.
*plonk*
Thanks for explaining that: it was very important information that the
entire planet really needed to know. Calls may be monitored for
training purposes.
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 22:59:33 +0000
Mr Flibble <leigh@i42.co.uk> wibbled:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 14:44:04 -0800, Keith Thompson
<Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr Flibble <leigh@i42.co.uk> writes:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 17:47:12 +0100, David Brown[...]
<david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
I am perfectly aware that this way of marking code is pretty obvious, >>>>> and I expect it would be the most common approach people thought about. >>>>> But you might well have had other ideas in mind. That's why I /asked/. >>>>> There's no need to get rude about it.
Rude? Man up, mate. "Fuck" is the best, most versatile word in the
English language which is why I use it.
/Flibble
Your rudeness has made me lose interest in anything else you might
have to say. Call this "tone policing" if you like. I don't care.
I see that I had already killfiled you in this newsgroup, but you're
posting under a different email address now.
*plonk*
Thanks for explaining that: it was very important information that the
entire planet really needed to know. Calls may be monitored for
training purposes.
Far too many delicate sensibilities in this group. God knows how they'd have coped in a british school growing up. The rate they're killfilling people there'll just be a circle jerk of about 3 of them soon, not really saying much
to each other.
And for the record, I grew up with British schooling.
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 11:54:35 -0500
Phillip <nntp@fulltermprivacy.com> gabbled:
Yeah, I was about to make a reply to his rudeness towards you. I can
understand the back and forth with Muttley, considering Muttley pushes
people at times and has rubbed people the wrong way in the past. But
you are not that way. I was willing to give Mr Flibble some latitude
over talking to Muttley, but after he said that to you, I'm out.
Flibble lost all respect from me at this point. David, you are an
outstanding member of this community and a true asset here. You
shouldn't be treated that way by anyone. Almost everyone knows who you
are here.
Are you his dad or something?
Mr Flibble would be right to give you an apology. I suspect he has
lost 1/3 of this community by treating you like this.
What community? Its a bunch of random people posting to a newsgroup.
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 14:13:03 +0100, David Brown
<david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
And for the record, I grew up with British schooling.
And interestingly you haven't killfiled Muttley: that says a lot about
us Brits not being snowflakes.
/Flibble
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 14:13:03 +0100, David Brown
<david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
And for the record, I grew up with British schooling.
And interestingly you haven't killfiled Muttley: that says a lot about
us Brits not being snowflakes.
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 13:18:38 +0000
Mr Flibble <leigh@i42.co.uk> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 14:13:03 +0100, David Brown
<david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
And for the record, I grew up with British schooling.
And interestingly you haven't killfiled Muttley: that says a lot about
us Brits not being snowflakes.
/Flibble
DavidB tolerates Muttley, because Muttley is Scottish. Were he English
there likely would be a different outcome.
Far too many delicate sensibilities in this group. God knows how they'd have coped in a british school growing up. The rate they're killfilling people there'll just be a circle jerk of about 3 of them soon, not really saying much
to each other.
On 16/02/2025 10:23, Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org wrote:
Far too many delicate sensibilities in this group. God knows how they'd have >> coped in a british school growing up. The rate they're killfilling people
there'll just be a circle jerk of about 3 of them soon, not really saying >much
to each other.
Are you really trying to argue that because kids were nasty to each
other in school, it's fine for people to be rude or nasty to each other >here? Seriously?
Think of this group as professional colleagues - not as your drunken
mates at the pub.
You get to choose how you post, and what you say. You don't get to
choose who will listen, or how they will react.
On 15/02/2025 18:04, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
What community? Its a bunch of random people posting to a newsgroup.
Usenet groups like comp.lang.c++ /are/ communities. There is a core of
Apparently you two (Muttley and Mr. Flibble) don't understand that. You >have both completely failed to read the room and join the community and
act like the rest of us, with the result that a fair proportion of
people here ignore you (by killfiles or just ignoring much of what you >write).
If you don't like this community, I'm sure you can find an alternative
one that suits you better.
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 13:18:38 +0000
Mr Flibble <leigh@i42.co.uk> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 14:13:03 +0100, David Brown
<david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
And for the record, I grew up with British schooling.
And interestingly you haven't killfiled Muttley: that says a lot about
us Brits not being snowflakes.
/Flibble
DavidB tolerates Muttley, because Muttley is Scottish. Were he English
I don't think it says anything about "us Brits", or anyone else. People
Are you really trying to argue that because kids were nasty to each[...]
other in school, it's fine for people to be rude or nasty to each
other here? Seriously?
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 16:09:53 +0100
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> gabbled:
I don't think it says anything about "us Brits", or anyone else.ÿ People
IME brits and aussies (maybe kiwis, don't know), seem to be a lot more tolerant of rouch language than the americans who are somewhat prudish
about
it. Its a cultural thing. Yet a lot of the same americans who might get angry
over bad language wouldn't think twice about packing a 9mm when they go
out.
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
[...]
Are you really trying to argue that because kids were nasty to each[...]
other in school, it's fine for people to be rude or nasty to each
other here? Seriously?
Please don't waste time and bandwidth arguing with trolls and giving
them the attention they crave. Or do you think you can use logical
arguments to persuade them to give up their trolling ways?
"Let them eat static" -- Khan Noonien Singh
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