• Gwbasic

    From MIKE POWELL@1:2320/195 to ED VANCE on Fri Jan 16 07:45:00 2026
    I remember thinking that a Scanner would help entering maagazine pages of cod , thinking computer aided whatever would take the hard part of entering sever pages of code but never learned to do that after buying a scanner.
    That was years ago in my thinking

    You might need a specialized scanner, or scanner software, for that. Most
    of the scanners I have ever had/operated would save things in formats --
    as images or PDFs or some proprietary format -- that were not good for
    text manipulation.

    There might be utilities that could be used to extract the text out of
    those formats, though.

    Mike
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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to MIKE POWELL on Sun Jan 18 20:37:49 2026


    You might need a specialized scanner, or scanner software, for that. Most
    of the scanners I have ever had/operated would save things in formats --
    as images or PDFs or some proprietary format -- that were not good for
    text manipulation.

    There might be utilities that could be used to extract the text out of
    those formats, though.

    Mike
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    My thinking was using software with the scanner to convert the writing (printing) on the page into text.

    CAD is what I recall learning about.
    Computer Aided don't remember what the D meant, I'm guessing Design.

    It all adds up to Laziness on my part, hopeing the PC would do allthe work of entering paves and pages of pc code for Me.From what I can recall it was a program in Byte magazine for which direction an antenna should be Pointed toward a location.
    Ed
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  • From MIKE POWELL@1:2320/195 to ED VANCE on Mon Jan 19 08:48:00 2026
    My thinking was using software with the scanner to convert the writing (printing) on the page into text.

    My scanners didn't have such options (or at least not good ones!) but I am sure that others probably did.

    It all adds up to Laziness on my part, hopeing the PC would do allthe work of entering paves and pages of pc code for Me.From what I can recall it was a program in Byte magazine for which direction an antenna should be Pointed toward a location.

    I wouldn't necessarily call it laziness. Avoiding typos would be another motivator for such a project. I can remember spending hours typing in TI
    Basic programs from magazines or books just to wind up with a typo (or
    several) that I never could get tracked down.

    Mike
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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to ED VANCE on Tue Jan 20 08:10:38 2026
    as images or PDFs or some proprietary format -- that were not good for
    >> text manipulation.
    >>
    >> There might be utilities that could be used to extract the text out of
    >> those formats, though.

    My thinking was using software with the scanner to convert the writing
    >(printing) on the page into text.

    I've used programs like that in the past. Usually you are converting
    PDF files but some of them can convert image files as well. It's a
    long time since I did that but a quick look online suggests that
    Adobe Acrobat can do PDF files and there are a number of online
    services that claim they can do it. PDF2GO mentiones converting
    pictures as well as PDF's. For programming though I'm not certain
    these programs are 100% accurate and results probably have to be
    checked for errors.

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to MIKE POWELL on Fri Jan 23 21:56:59 2026


    My scanners didn't have such options (or at least not good ones!) but I am sure that others probably did.

    I wouldn't necessarily call it laziness. Avoiding typos would be another motivator for such a project. I can remember spending hours typing in TI Basic programs from magazines or books just to wind up with a typo (or several) that I never could get tracked down.

    Mike
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    In the 1970's I drooled over buying a scanner for my 486 box.
    Bought a HP 4C scanner that almost cost one thousand bucks.
    Can't recall if CAD software was included, probably not.
    Tried using Irafanview option for CAD without success. So gave up on the big idea
    Some years later someone I knew got a All-In-One Printer/Scanner and told me it cost around $300.00 USD.

    And Yes I stmphaci

    symphacise with You about Running BASIC code and the program needing editing.

    I remember when the stores has TI 99/44.
    I played with one once to find out to get IT to print my name I had to press a Function Key with the p key for my name to appear on the monitor screen.
    Ed
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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Rob Mccart on Fri Jan 23 22:11:45 2026

    >> text manipulation.
    >>
    >> There might be utilities that could be used to extract the text out of
    >> those formats, though.

    >(printing) on the page into text.

    I've used programs like that in the past. Usually you are converting
    PDF files but some of them can convert image files as well. It's a
    long time since I did that but a quick look online suggests that
    Adobe Acrobat can do PDF files and there are a number of online
    services that claim they can do it. PDF2GO mentiones converting
    pictures as well as PDF's. For programming though I'm not certain
    these programs are 100% accurate and results probably have to be
    checked for errors.

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    Rob,
    Someone in either the Windows echo or the Windows 95 echo wrote about a provran called DOPDF .
    I d/l'd it and learned it is a Print Driver that makes a PDF file on the HDD.

    I have used for saving a webpage I was looking at in Firefox.
    DOPDF saves images and text as a PDF that I can read later.
    Even extra long webpages with a dozen or two dozen pages on it.
    But as you wrote PDF's are no good for entering BASIC code .
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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to ED VANCE on Sun Jan 25 07:33:56 2026
    There might be utilities that could be used to extract the text out of
    those formats, though.

    I've used programs like that in the past. Usually you are converting
    >> PDF files but some of them can convert image files as well. It's a
    >> long time since I did that but a quick look online suggests that
    >> Adobe Acrobat can do PDF files and there are a number of online
    >> services that claim they can do it. PDF2GO mentiones converting
    >> pictures as well as PDF's.

    Rob,
    >Someone in either the Windows echo or the Windows 95 echo wrote
    >about a program called DOPDF. I d/l'd it and learned it is a Print
    >Driver that makes a PDF file on the HDD.

    I would have mentioned that since I use that myself but creating
    a PDF file isn't the same as extracting text out of various file
    types so I didn't think of it.

    DoPDF works qyite well though. If properly installed it works well
    for a number of programs, most anything that can print I think..

    I also for years used one called Cute PDF which is similar, but
    probably not as up to date as DoPDF. I believe it had other
    options built in too though. It's been a while since I used it.
    It was more of a full program than just a Printer Driver, although
    it was that as well I think.

    If it wasn't a universal type printer driver it could be called
    upon by other programs to save their work as a PDF.

    Most of these utilities I use with a very nice, small and simple
    Word Processor program called Jarte. I use it for almost everything
    I do with documents. It has all the usual Word type options and
    can save files as PDF and HTML and most Text formats if set up
    properly, and it does spell checking and such.. a tiny program.

    Sumatra PDF is another nice program I use that can do a lot of
    things including ePub and Mobi books and such.

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Rob Mccart on Mon Jan 26 17:01:11 2026

    >> PDF files but some of them can convert image files as well. It's a
    >> long time since I did that but a quick look online suggests that
    >> Adobe Acrobat can do PDF files and there are a number of online
    >> services that claim they can do it. PDF2GO mentiones converting
    >> pictures as well as PDF's.

    >Someone in either the Windows echo or the Windows 95 echo wrote
    >about a program called DOPDF. I d/l'd it and learned it is a Print
    >Driver that makes a PDF file on the HDD.

    I would have mentioned that since I use that myself but creating
    a PDF file isn't the same as extracting text out of various file
    types so I didn't think of it.

    DoPDF works qyite well though. If properly installed it works well
    for a number of programs, most anything that can print I think..

    I also for years used one called Cute PDF which is similar, but
    probably not as up to date as DoPDF. I believe it had other
    options built in too though. It's been a while since I used it.
    It was more of a full program than just a Printer Driver, although
    it was that as well I think.

    If it wasn't a universal type printer driver it could be called
    upon by other programs to save their work as a PDF.

    Most of these utilities I use with a very nice, small and simple
    Word Processor program called Jarte. I use it for almost everything
    I do with documents. It has all the usual Word type options and
    can save files as PDF and HTML and most Text formats if set up
    properly, and it does spell checking and such.. a tiny program.

    Sumatra PDF is another nice program I use that can do a lot of
    things including ePub and Mobi books and such.

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    Rob, I heard of Cutepdf and tried it.
    When I grabbed DoPDF I liked much more and used it even to save text in a email into a PDF file.

    I like that DoPDF will save images and all the text even in a giant web page. Ed
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